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    Envy 15 2nd Gen Benchmarks

    Discussion in 'HP' started by jyar727, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. sleey0

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    My latest vantage run at 600/1100 :)
     

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    Vantage score Ocd 555/1111
     

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    5830=~260m gtx
     
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    And very slightly below GTX 280 :D
     
  5. bratboy

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    So what app are ppl using to check gpu temp? I, so far, haven't found an app that will report its temp for me
     
  6. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    So can we say, this thing (with its bad touchpad, sucky lcd, horrible battery life etc etc) performs as good as more expensive m15x and does this in almost half the weight and size? People who are overlooking this computer is missing alot. I ordered a 820qm. I'll try installing it to a 520m model. And then we will see how it will perform.
     
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    I got artifacting going past 1100 VRAM. I think 600/1100 is as far as I will go.
     
  8. threeply

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    I think comparing it to a GTX 260m is optimistic at best. Overclocked the Mobility 5830 may reach Mobility 4850 Levels. The 4850 has the advantage of a 256-bit memory interface. Of course those other chipsets will drain the battery in seconds.
     
  9. drizek

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    I think this is better than the 260m. It support DX11 and uses less power. That alone makes it better.

    What are the 3dmark06/vantage scores for a 260m system?
     
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    VZX Notebook Evangelist

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    ASUS G51J with GTX260M and i7 720QM can score 11k+ on 3D Mark.
    But yeah, drain more power, heavier machine, and there's this throttling issue (not sure if in practice it often happens)
     
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    don't forget that nvidia scores higher in benchmarks (cheaters!!!)
     
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    Less power? That's the understatement of the thread ;) It uses less than 1/3 of the power of a 260M GTX (75W vs 24W). That's freakin' amazing. And the 260M GTX averages about 10K 3DMarks according to Notebookcheck. It's not a hugely faster card, especially given Nvidia's "cheating" with 3DMark.
     
  13. biosphere

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    i got my envy today!

    core i5 540 | 4gb | 1920x1080 glossy | 7200rpm drive

    I want to share how world of warcraft plays since i was curious about the performance prior to purchasing. I hope this gets added to the 1st post. In short, it runs really well. I am on the stock win7 install with all the bloatware and default video drivers.

    Playing at 1920x1080 with all settings on HIGH except shadows set to low:
    * Outside in WoTLK zones running around: 45-75 fps (i only spent a few mins)

    * in Dalaran: 30-40 fps average. lowest I saw was 24. Very slight hitching as you run around and new people load, but overall ran very well and smooth.

    Havent tried pvp or group pve yet as I only spent about 5 mins in game. Overall I am very pleased with how it performs.
     
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    IS 3D mark vantage v 1.01a the correct version or does this one need the hotfix?
     
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    3DMark06 @ Stock settings @ Stock clocks
    CPU: i5 520m

    [​IMG]
     
  16. JJB

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    I just bought 3Dmark vantage and am trying to figure out why, no matter what I do, it always plays the test in full screen on the envy? even if I change screen res in CCC to 1280x1024, once I start benchmark it loads at full 1920x1080. Is this a bug?

    Obviously it cannot be giving acurate 'default' test results if it's driving full HD resolution on screen.
     
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    Are you sure it's not just stretching? It may still be running at 1280x1024, just using the display's built-in (free, as in no performance hit) scaler to stretch it to the whole screen. How do you have Vantage set up with the resolution? Once you buy it, you can set lots of different options in Vantage. Try just selecting the Power profile and then running it.
     
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    No it's very odd, I've got CCC and windows both set at 1280x1024 which blacks out the sides of screen and all apps desktop etc. are low res in the correct proportions. Choose defualt 3Dvantage run (or other opt.) at 1280x1024 and all look right until it loads, it goes to full screen 1920x1080 at full res. (if it streched the proportions would be different or cropping would occur. Ran several other combos but all display actual test runs in full screen full res.

    Is anybody else having this same issue??
     
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    7410 and 10k is a huge difference. Does all ATI card have this high OC capability?
     
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    The real question is how stable are those clocks ;)
     
  21. JJB

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    I've got the i5-540m and 8GB RAM and DUAL SSD'S (not sure if they matter). Ran at 567 / 1133 and seemed stable for 3 back to back runs, varied by +/- 25pts or so each time and max temp was 67.5C.
     
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    have you furmarked your VRAM at 1133. I got artifacts pretty quickly at that speed.
     
  23. VZX

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    That's warm. I know G51J can shoot the temperature up to 92~96C. As well as my old A8Js with 7700 Go, it can go beyond 90 without additional cooling system. Does 67.5 was without cooling pad/something similar? What's your ambient temperature?
     
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    No extra cooling, envy is on a marble desktop that is over a heater so it's about 20c. Warmest it's ever gotten is 72.5 during furmark. very suprised at the cooler running temps compared to my 1st gen i7 model, with better performance in these benchmarks.
     
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    Here's the best score I've got so far on 3DMark Vantage, defualt test settings and OC at 566/1133 (note did crash once at these settings) Temps stayed below 67C 3DmarkV5.JPG
     
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    Do you use IC Diamond thermal paste?
     
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    Nope, everything is factory except added 2 x 4GB ram. Cooling system on this unit is very well designed. :D
     
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    No real need for it. Voltage is the limit to our overclocks, not temperature.
     
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    The desktop 5770 runs Dirt 2 with maximum details and 4xaa at 1080p at 30fps.......

    Thats not quite as bad as you describe.
     
  30. AnXioZ

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    The RAM and SSD don't do jack in 3DMark06. Your processor might give you a ~100 point increase but that's about it. What is your default run on 3DMark06 @ stock ?
     
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    CPU actually makes a much bigger difference in 3dm06. Compare his Vantage scores to some other laptops. Also don't let the initial low score to discourage you. You have a very capable laptop. You don't need to OC it for most of the games out there now. Also keep in mind that we do not have a driver that is current and designed for this card yet. Once that happens, I believe we can see scores above 6000 on vantage.

    Thanks
     
  32. AnXioZ

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    Not if we are talking about 520m vs 540m difference.
     
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    Yes using 'stock' default setting on 3Dmark06.
     
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    waths the WEI scores for the i5?
    I know that the windows experience index isnt a good benchmark.
    But I would like to see it
     
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    My i5-540 gets a 6.8, fwiw.
     
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    I'm getting 6.8 on all except for a 7.9 for the HDD (SSD).
     
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    I disagree. Look at some of vantage scores. The 540m appears to be getting between 500 to 1000 pts over the 520m on CPU results. I consider that to be significant :)
     
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    How are you getting the GPU temp? I tried using GPU-z, but unless there's a newer one that can mange it I can't get it to show me GPU temp
     
  39. AnXioZ

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    I meant to ask you what is your 3DMark06 score without overclocking the gpu.
     
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    The AMD overclock tool (5870 version) gives 3 temp readings. It's on the second tab.

    Not sure if I kept results. Will rerun when I get home and post the screen.
     
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    Well I actually like my Matte Screen. Am using the profile that JJB made, at least I think it was him. I also have one another person posted here but I haven't given it a try yet. Doth were posted to this thread a cpl pages back. For one do a search for HP Envy 15.zip and the other one was called matte display 100% BRT 6500K 2.2.
     
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    Ah thx. Turned out I had to check the little tic box "Enable reading" and click the start button to get em to show
     
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    i5 is dual core right? How come it doesn't show any marginal difference to i7?
     
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    i5 is dual core but has HT which makes it run like a quad core. i7 has the HT too so it runs like a octo (?) core. There are not that many games out there that will use all 8 cores in anyways. If you want something that will run like a champ you go with i5. If you want something that will run like champ 2 years later, you go with i7.
     
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    I wanted the fastest 32nm part with a TDP of 35W (which actually is about 10W less due to the GPU being disables in this system) so I went with the i7-620 ;)

    Pretty much runs on par with the 720 and sometimes comes out on top.

    Less TDP, same performance? Sign me up :D
     
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    Can any of the i5 owners who have gamed for prolonged periods comment on the heat around the left palm rest and WASD keys?

    I really want one but with all the comments about the i7 heat and the position of the cpu I am worried it will become uncomfortable.
    I had an sxps 1640 and it got so hot during gaming it became uncomfortable so I sold it. I tried undervolting/AS5/notebook cooler.
     
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    Actually, it'll use close to the same 35W because the GPU is disabled. The core and the GPU shared the TDP, and since there's no GPU, the core can take up to I think 29W? Something like that.
     
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    No, this system doesn't come anywhere NEAR as hot as the 1640.

    It gets warm but not hot at all. I'd def go for an i5 or 620 in this system as it is so thin that an i7 is overkill, IMO.
     
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    This I know (I posted it a while ago in the original thread).

    Except the fact that the proc can only boost so much. We will never truly know because measuring actual TDP and/or power draw from the cpu isn't something we can do.

    I am guessing that, full tilt, the cpu won't consume the full TDP as it has to throttle down even for minimum gpu use.

    Otherwise the Turbo would never hit max with Intel HD, right?
     
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    If the GPU is using nearly nothing and with Turbo the core can dissipate up to 29W (I think I remember that number from some article), then it may run on Turbo more often with our chips than with the GPU enabled at all. I think you're right, it may not consume the full 35W, but it's more than the 25W normally allocated to the CPU.

    Edit: Make sure you check out this image: http://www.notebookcheck.net/typo3temp/pics/f3d52024f9.gif
    It's from this page: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Intel-Core-i3-i5-i7-Processors-Arrandale.25085.0.html
    Further edit: Here's where I got the i5 info from: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-540M-Notebook-Processor.23748.0.html
     
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