HP DV5T 9600M GT Overclocking Guide

great job LeetPix! this is more than i have ever dreamed of

 

Imagine if all of us had GDDR3 with stock 800mhz memory....

 

ohhhh i wish it was like you say! a friend of mine with 9600M GDDR3 gets 5300 points with no OC.. i asked him how many points he had obtained with overclocking feature enabled.. ... ... 6800!! and he said he could have raised it further but it was pointless

 

yea if only, bloody HP, everything in my laptop is perfect, except for the DDR2 GPU, aarrrrggghhhhhh

 

Could anyone who overclocks these cards please see how high they can get crysis settings with the overclock? no rush its just stuck in my head

 

Would someone mind posting some directions on how to overclock & set profiles with Rivatuner?

 

lol i've installed evga precision and now my overclocked options in riva tuner doesn't work

thx...
i had 2D/3D different temps so i got almost SILENT notebook when idle now i'm stuck with default clocks and can't change them... (2D and 3D clocks are the same 500/1250/400)
of course riva tuner says that everything it's fine, too bad that GPU-Z shows that rivatuner crapped

 

this is great! thanks leetpix
i managed a stable overclock of 640/1280/540, not a hiccup, and a significant performance boost.

but i'm wondering what effect this overclocking will have on component lifespan since it does generate quite a bit of heat. thinking of investing in a notebook cooler to make sure it doesn't overheat; i'm getting temperatures of 80C under load.

should i expect an overclocked notebook to live as long as one with stock settings?

 

That depends all on the heat. if it gets hot quicker/higher than you can expect the lifespan to be shorter if the heat it generates stays about the same as before than it will be fine.

BTW You know you can overclock the shader higher than 1280 if you use rivatuner as mentioned earlier in this forum correct? just wanted to make sure.

 

Though raising clocks gives a nice performance boost....I am very very scared ....Whenever I am playing games with these new clocks,I always get a feeling that my GPU is slowly going to die
I think its just too unsafe to run at overclocked settings(even if you have a cooler)..unless you can afford to buy a replacement if it fails....I will set them back to stock frequencies..
But,Do GPU's die only due to the heat produced on overclocking or is there any other technical reason for it to fail while overclocked?

 

GPU's will die normally just after time as any part in a computer will, Overclocking is perfectly safe if you stay inside decent temps BUT I understand where you're coming from. I overclocked my 8400M GS and i was scared as hell to do it (Glad I did tho it gave me the ability to play Crysis at low settings at a decent frame rate and res 1280X800) but yeah unless youre gonna be doing some heavy gaming the core clocks should be pretty decent for you anyways there isnt much of a reason for you to overclock unless youre a performanceholic who needs to squeeze out every bit of "potential" from the card we payed for (I am guilty of this) ahaha

But yeah normal time death, Power Surge, Blocking of laptop vents (keep em clean and dusted out) but yeah no unless there is some kind of fault in the card those should be the only things you see. Usually when a card starts failing (unless its overclocked high) you will see "artifacts" which will give you some warning...

The only REAL other reason would be over voltage. which isn't going to happen unless you go nuts overclocking (instead of doing it slowly you suddenly pop the clocks up by 500 points) but yeah shorting the card is all I can think of

 

I thought overclocking caused electron migration in the chip and this caused it to slowly degrade?? However, the life span of a normal gpu/cpu is so long anyway that you will have probably bought a new laptop before the harware fails due to overclocking. So, although overclocking reduces life, its not that noticable unless you ramp the volts and clocks way up. Also, make sure your temps are withing the thermal spec provided by intel/nvidia!

Someone correct me if im wrong

 

Hey Cammeron,did you try 3dmark06 basic with "constant performance mode" enabled or disabled? What are your scores?

 

My temps are within the limit...but i am still scared although Overclocking is very tempting! ;-)

 

im sure it will be fine! I intend on giving it a bash when i get my dv5.

What are your idle temps like and what are your max (in game) stock temps like???

 

GPU idles at 48 on Belkin cooler....
But if i remove the cooler then it shoots to 58!

After about 1.5 hours of gaming..
Games like Grid demo run as high as 94,even with the cooler...
Games like Far Cry,FSX,AOE 3 all reach a max of around 90 with the cooler
Fifa 09 hits a max 85...
I have to expect these temperatures as I live in a tropical country...

 

And again DDR2 GPU.....arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......

 

Ahh, not much headroom really then. I suppose there is maybe one advantage then to living in the UK where its cold lol

Have you undervolted your CPU?

 

electron migration will always be happening to some extent in the chip. it usually isn't to bad if you're staying within a safe heat zone (not that they're connected but its a good way of measuring what the card can handle).. Pretty much as long as you dont run the card with lots of artifacts in the background (caused by being overclocked to far) and your temp is in a safe zone (Nvidia usually sets NTune to go off at about 127C but you will usually hear everyone recommend staying Under 90C as your card isnt meant to run above 85-90 for long periods of time... the 127 is just a "spike" level where it shouldnt even be for a moment... So yeah stay under 90C if you do go over DO NOT GO INTO THE HUNDREDS.

 

I have not yet recieved my dv5t for now im on my dv6500z.. my dv5 should be here on friday or monday (I dont have a tracking number since its a free replacement laptop but my HP Case Manager said it would prob ship on wed.) I will be overclocking as soon as I can after I get it tho.

 

Courageous Fellow!

Yeah, i have undervolted my P7350(the only better option after T5800 in my country for the dv5t)

 

Same here in the uk. If you want a 9600M GT the only processor is the P7350. Still not a bad processor!

 

You will have to downgrade your BIOS to overclock your GPU when you get your dv5t...

 

Its either courage or stupidity =p idk I just can't not do it knowing theres a possible 30% performance gain... I have to go for that potential aha.

But hey you have the tv tuner I know its off topic but do you like it? and whats the antenna like on the outside? (I know these are age old questions)

and do you like the inifity display? would u say it helps make things look more clear/crisp or that its just cosmetic for the display panel?

Yeah ive read multiple forums including the dv5t owners forum (like 440 pages) I know a lot now XD and I cant use it (In regards to the downgrading the bios)

 

@Cammeron,What's your dv5t config?
The antenna is like a mini tower....but actually....though i have the TV tuner i have never so far tried it!!!(you might be surprised)..and then you get a nice media center remote control.
Actually I did not want the TV tuner and the F/P sensor at all...I would have actually chosen a better processor and more RAM(with Vista-64 of course) if I had the option to actually customize the PC.Since I have a 40 inch LCDTV at home..i have not bothered giving the Hybrid Tuner a try!
Infinity display......I dont really see any difference in the screens of my dv5t and another laptop at the HP store which did not have the Infinity Display(a dv5z).But,it causes a lot of reflection....and dust tends to accumulate between the border of the "borderless display" and the LCD frame...
Its all about looks...not really worth IMHO.

 

Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (32-bit)
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P8600 (2.4 GHz) edit
15.4" WSXGA+ High-Definition HP BrightView Infinity Display (1680 x 1050)
3GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
Webcam + Fingerprint Reader
HP Color Matching Keyboard
Wireless-G Card with Bluetooth
No Modem
LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support
HP Integrated HDTV Hybrid Tuner
12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery


I would have added Bluray and the Better Processor if I could have but I got the laptop for free as a replacement for my current 700$ Dv6500z and since the dv5t cost 1543$ with this set up I wasnt about to argue blu ray or a slightly better cpu

BUT I origionaly he did want to give me the 2ghz cpu with no tv tuner graphics card, or fingerprint read and wanted to give me the non infinity 1280X800 Display with 2 gigs of ram I talked him up from all of that and got him to give me the current config

Btw you that answers a question I have been meaning to ask someone.. I noticed the space between the border on some close up pictures of the infinity (right on the very very edge kind of right?) and my mousepad on my dv6500z has a space like that on it and i was thinking "man crap is prob gonna get stuck in there"

btw what is the F/P Sensor? is the the sensor by the Audio Jacks that picks up the HP Mini remote?

 

Have you disabled Personal Messenger(NBR)? I think our conversation is derailing.
Yeah,there are gaps in the infinity display on the top left and right corners(curved portions of the display).

 

Personal Messenger? anyways so when you did have it overclocked what was it at?

 

See my updated Signature.
(core/shader/memory)=(640/1420/555)

 

Ohhh Nice that seems like it would be a pretty decent OC

btw i dont believe you can turn personal messenger off but I dont know how to check it either as ive never used it sooooo. yeah heh.

 

How well would the work with the HDX18t?
I have a P8600 2.4, 3GB DDR2 667Mhz, 250GB 5400RPM HDD, and the 9600M GT 512MB. Oh, and Vista 64-bit if that makes a difference.

 

is Vista x64 in any way better than x86? focusing on system reactivity, speed, applications and so on.

 

every time i try to move the bars over to the right it just puts it back. I have tried to install the F.05 bios but it keeps saying my hardware isnt compatible...

i want to overclock this laptop but everything i try wont work!!
so can anyone help me out here please?!

 

yeah i realised riva tuner lets you overclock shaders to more than 1280. i'm still a little worried about heat so i've tuned settings back to stock for now until i get a cooler. i mean if idle temperature is 55-60 and temperature under load is 75-80 then there shouldn't be a problem right?

 

Yeah until you get into the higher 90's you will be fine. Nvidias Ntune is set alarm at 127*C but thats for "spikes" which it shouldnt be at even for a moment. and the high 90s will be fine as long as they are also spikes (temperatures 90 and above will lessen your cards lifespan as they slowly degrade it)

 

ok i finally got it to work!!
now how do i save profiles for normal performance (internet surfing) and overclocked performance (gaming)???

 

thanks cammeron. just to be on the safe side i bought a coolermaster infinite notebook cooler. it's a bit noisy but my temperatures are being kept below 65C under load, with an overclock of 620/1300/520. i'm pretty sure i can push it higher but i'm loving the cooler. gives me some peace of mind. i'll probably overclock with evga precision manually when i'm gaming, otherwise i'll run the gpu at stock settings.

anyway, great stuff, this really works, i never imagined being able to OC a notebook with such success. thanks all!

 

What do the shader clocks actually do?

 

haha yes, already done in my first post on this thread, but thanks again LeetPix.

 

I was quick to edit my post and change the topic totally when I saw the last 2 words of your previous post "thanks all"!
But wicked fellow,you saw it so quickly!

 

Someone correct me if i'm wrong but the shaders do all the special effects of games, drawing textures and things like that, while the rest of the chip draws the polygons, T&L, etc.

 

@ P1990

What software did you use to undervolt your p7350? RMClock doesnt use half multipliers so you would end up loosing some speed by only using 7x and not 7.5x?

@Nehalem

I think thats right!

 

I use rmclock.I think thats the case with the P7350. Have you tried Notebook Hardware Control(NHC)?

 

I dont have the laptop yet but will try it out when I do. So I take it your Processor when undervolted runs at 1.87 GHz?

Also when clocking your GPU, have you tried just clocking the memory as that seems to be the main bottle neck on theis DDR2 version of the card. This wont create as much heat as clocking the core and shaders as well.

 

1.77Ghz!

I have the GPU running at 640/1280/555 at the moment,just too tempted to overclock.I have tried raising the shader clocks as well beyond 1280. By modifying the registry values in Rivatuner I have gone all the way up to 1580 but I get a BSOD just after Vista boots(before the logon screen).
But overclocking the GPU yields good results especially in GRID demo..some 8-10 FPS boost i think...
No I have not tried just raising the memory..I will give that a try but still.....I just get a sick feeling when I see GPU-Z screenshots of a GDDR3 version of the 9600M GT in the Aspire 5930G clocked at 800mhz!....I get lockups/freezes at just 570mhz(mem)!

 

lol, Ive been considering the 5930G but its looks arn't the best and feel the dv5 is the best balance in terms of performace and aesthetics.

Does lowing the processor clock to 1.77GHz have any significant performace impacts?

8 to 10 FPS is a significant boost and can really make a differance. Have you tried any other games??

 

Yeah I know! It looks woeful(especially the spacebar area).I have not felt any real difference but on the notification area the clock frequency is actually displayed which keeps switching between 1.77ghz and 2ghz..but usually when I launch any application, CPU runs at 2.00ghz.I feel this PC is a lot slower(general Vista usage) than my previous DELL Studio 17(returned) which had a T8300(2.4ghz,3mb L2,800mhz FSB).I dont know why it is so...(dont know whether it is due to the bloatware or really the 400mhz clock difference per core).
I have World in Conflict demo setup...I will try that and post my results.
I have FIFA 09 as well but you wont notice any change in that..
But Grid demo was really enjoyable when my GPU was OC'ed.

 

Well according to a review i saw somewhere (cant remember exactly) a P7350 @ 2GHz, due to the new architecture of centrino 2 roughly equals a T8100 @ 2.1GHz.

Will be interesed in seeing the overclocked results of World in conflict!

 

According to CPU Benchmark ( http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ ) The P7350 scores 1,271 and the T8100 Scores 1,208 (Higher numbers are better) This means the P7350 Out performs the T8100! (only slightly tho not anything worth paying a lot more money for)


(Btw Im assuming you meant the P7350 not P7530)

 

Yeh, Thats the one Think im deffinately sold on the DV5. I was waiting for the "studio xps" but I think they will be late and overpriced anyway. Can get a DV5 P7350 and 9600MGt with blu ray, 4gig ram, 250gig hdd for £630 here in the uk and with the possibility to overclock the GPU , its a bargin