HP DV5T 9600M GT Overclocking Guide

OH speaking of the studio my mother has a Studio 17 and im Getting my DV5 soon (she just bought her Studio 2 days ago from sams club) but I will try to compare and contrast them... if she lets me handle it for a while.. I will claim to be installing Anti Virus software if I can aha (i handle all the electronics here at the house).. and for anyone whos wondering im living with my parents while I school I'm 18


Btw if you can afford it id recommend getting the P8400 2.26ghz if you can it will match the 9600m gt better (but thats just my opinion if you plan on gaming) It gets about 200 points more than the p7350. Either way what youre looking at is still a great laptop

 

@lukext,I guess you only get a WXGA display with your soon2arrive model...Whats the point in including a Bluray ROM drive and offer a cramped 1280*800!? I just hate WXGA..When Bluray titles are 1080p,then does HP assume that you have an external monitor or an HDMI accepting LCD TV?

 

@ p1990

I had exactly the same thought, but I have a lovely 22 inch LCD with HDMI which is 720i capable so, I will get to use the blu ray for what its there for. But I do see your point. Most people wont get to enjoy the HD.

 

@lukext,As you had asked for before..I tried 3dmark06 @ 500/1250/570 and I got a score of 4980....(just increased the memory clock).Has anyone gone higher than 570? An approx 600 points increase over 500/1250/400..

 

Not that ive seen all the ones ive seen on all 4 forums have stopped at 570.


Btw does anybody else have/had a dv6000 here? How would the screen compare to the dv5t? I have a dv6500z and i want to know if the dv5t screen is better (brighter more vibrant colors/deeper colors etc) than the dv6000 or pretty much the same

 

if i set memory to 570 my gpu gets struck.

 

@p1990

thats pretty good just for a memory clock. What were your temps like?

@ cammeron Johnson

I saw some DV5ts in a local store this weekend gone and they looked quite good. They had both the infinity and normal, and tbph, i couldn't tell much difference. I know Grantman in his video review suggested altering the gamma to create a better picture...
I cant post links yet but if you go to you tube and search for "HP Pavilion Dv5 review part 1/2" the videos there

 

In the high 70's..

 

thats not too bad then. obviously game test it but if its under 90 after a couple of hours i would keep the overclock!!!

 

When are you getting your PC? Better download and store the BIOS(the one that allows OC) before(just in case) it is removed from HP's site!

 

lol yeh

Ill be getting it for Christmas hopefully

 

How do I know which model number it is since I havent gotten it yet?? Its a custom notebook so I know its CTO but which one there are 3!!

 

As far as stable clocks r concerned, my stable clocks are 660.1600.570, I have tried it with Pro Evo 09, Red Alert 3 and 3DMARK06, no glitches, no BSOD and temp max goes to 78-80C in a room with temp around 26C and whn room temp is down, max temp goes to 70-72C, also I am using Zalman NC2000 cooler. Max 3DMARK06 points I got was 5855.

 

why are my gpu idle temps so high (62 C and 56 C with the back lifted)?
my setup for OC is 640/1580/550
my gpu went up to 85 C in crysis on medium settings with AAx2 at 1280x800!!!
can anyone help me out and let me know why this laptop is getting so hot?
thanks

 

I know generally its considered unsafe to overclock the cpu in a laptop but hey its unsafe to overclock the GPU too SO anyone tried overclocking there cpu? and has anyone been able to get the P7350 2.O To the P8400 2.26?
or the P8400 2.26 to the P8600 2.4... or the P8600 2.4 to the 2.53 value of the T9400 (heres my list)

P7350 2.0Ghz to P8400 2.26Ghz
P8400 2.26Ghz to P8600 2.4Ghz
P8600 2.4Ghz to T9400 2.53Ghz


After that has anyone benchmarked them?

Btw before someone mentions it I know the Clock speed isnt all that matters and that the T9400 has a 6mb cache while the others are 3mb.


(Btw you can use Ntune to overclock the CPU but it restores after every restart)


Ntune Download ---> http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html

 

How well would the work with the HDX18t?
I have a P8600 2.4GHz, 3GB DDR2 667Mhz, 250GB 5400RPM HDD, and the 9600M GT 512MB. Oh, and Vista 64-bit if that makes a difference.

 

How well would what work? The CPU overclock? If you aren't well experienced in overclocking I wouldn't recommend trying it as it isn't worth the risk (CPU is a lot easier to fry than the GPU) Normally on laptop CPU's I can add about .2-.23 Ghz now that would raise a 2.2 (p8400) to a 2.4 (p8600)... Now you have the P8600 so you could raise it to the clock value of the T9400. BUT the T9400 really isnt that much better the P8600 scores 1,522 while the T9400 scores 1,610 that is only 88 points better.. (link to cpu benchmark)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/


now also the T9400 has a 6mb cache that the P8600 simply doesnt have (it only has a 3mb cache) so you would prob only get around a 60 point increase IF THAT.

Overclocking the CPU is really only beneficial if you have the same cache size or can overclock to a fairly high clock (like from 2.0 to 2.5) which you cannont (and even if you could manage) SHOULD NOT do on a laptop. It will generate a lot of heat and could possibly fry the chipset and cpu.



Side Note: Another thing you would want to be familiar with is the "reference clocks" and possibly the memory timings. but knowing how to adjust the reference clock will allow you to adjust the clock higher without locking up the system

Btw SaleenS7TT I didnt realise the HDX18t came with 667mhz ram i would think it would come with 800mhz like the DV5T does. you sure its 667mhz?

STILL DO ANY OVERCLOCKING OR TIMING CHANGES AT YOUR OWN RISK

 

I did briefly consider that overclocking the cpu maybe a possibility, because if i undervolt the P7350 (which uses a half multiplier of 7.5 which RM clock wont recognise) it will drop the speed (to 1.77 GHz) as i would be forced to use a 7x multi. Thus meaning the cpu would run underclcocked. Hence I thought why not raise the FSB to make it back up to 2. However, its probably going to be such a hassle to fine tune that its not worth it. Ill still undervolt for when im on battery thou as 1.77 would be fine to watch a film/light game

IRTcammeron johnson (post #101) - here in the uk its only pre configured models. The only ones that come with a 9600MGT are ones with P7350s unfortunatly I would love to configure my own dell style like you have in the US!!!

 

lukext - I would right to HP stating that you want to be able to configure im sure if enough people do so that they will make it possible they just have to like the market first.


Everyone - Also I forgot to mention Ntune has a "tuning" feature that allows you to run it for 20 minutes - 3 hours (you choose how long depending on how well you want it tuned) anyways it stresses every part in your PC until it fails and causes a restart. After the restart it remembers where the part failed and sets its operating clock just under that point. thus tuning the cpu and gpu (altho it prob wont tune the 9600) but it will tune the cpu's Clock, Reference speeds, and memory timings. all to work as well as they can on that machine . if anyone does use it please post results

 

Is there any other program that can be used to overclock the CPU? NTUNE crashes this laptop.

 

Savior - Try systool maybe?
http://www.techpowerup.com/systool/


Everyone - It sucks that Ntune crashes this laptop I loved using it.. Maybe someone can find a fix? im gonna write to them and suggest they release a new version since the dv5 is a good majority of the computers they actually sell 9600M GT's in (dv5 and Macbook) maybe theres others all I know is there are a large majority of DV5 users out there

 

"SetFSB" maybe worth a try although you need to know the name of the DV5's clcock generator

 

SetFSB looks like its wants to confuse me @.@ but if Systool doesnt work when i get my dv5 i will prob end up trying it aha thanks!

(What these machines need are a few Intel I7's )

 

lol, Yeh set FSB does seem quite complicated :S

 

All in all I still can't wait to get mine even if overclocking is hard to do on the cpu. Even if I dont overclock it I believe this is going to be a quick responsive powerful beautiful machine and i'm looking forward to it

(atleast this time i dont have buyers remorse.. Had it when I bought this dv6500z while it was shipping)

 

So has anyone been able to get the WEI Graphic Gaming score to a 5.9? Highest i heard was 5.5. Anyone know of someone beating that

Edit: Called HP today I couldnt get a hold of my case manager but the guy who answered offered to help he searched it up and turns out my laptop finished getting built today and has been sent to fedex (they just havent been given the Tracking number yet) but yeah anyways prob monday ^ ^

 

I don't want to try it because it hasn't been updated since 2007.

 

There also a problem with raising the FSB. The memory clocks will raise at the same time. You are probably limited by how much you can overclock the memory.

I wish notebook manufacturers made BIOS that can be overclocked like desktops.

 

Yeah I hope they end up updating it cause Ntune is a useful program.

Also they do. Alienware does. but i know what you mean unfortunatly they never will as it would get far to hot and Laptop CPU's are made smaller and theyre easier to burn out when overclocking

 

I think when i get mine ill undervolt the CPU and go for a memory overclck on the 9600. think ill leave shaders and core alone so as to keep the heat down

 

Yeah im overclocking everything I can. With a chance at a 28-30% performance increase from just the graphics card alone I am def overclocking

 

660/1650/576 is stable in games for me. This is in a larger HDX16 with better cooling though (highest temp 64C on zalman nc2000). Glad to see Dv5 users finally experiencing the real 9600

 

Anothergeek - Hey I have a question for you I have someone on another forum (Over at laptop video 2 go) Link: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20488&st=520

He is trying to overclock his HDX16 9600M GT but he cant here is his post


Guest_KratosxX12_*: "So I Know this is mostly a topic for people with dv5's, but I have an HDX16 and I have the H20 bios and I can't seem to overclock mine either. Any help would be appreciated, You guys seem to really know your stuff."

Cammeron Johnson: "Have you tried the steps that we took to overclock the DV5? (downgrade to "first" BIOS release and then use Rivatuner or a like program to overclock? Also I recommend you start a thread with "Overclock HDX16" as the title (or something of the like) that way you can get a group of people together trying to solve the problem. it works a lot better if a lot of people understand your system"

Guest_KratosxX12_*: "I don't know where to find the first bios release. I currently have the newest one but All the sliders reset when I use Riva. Nibitor seems to be useless for me as it won't read my bios and Ntune BSOD's my comp."

.......Now I had no idea where he could get it or if that would fix the problem but since youve been able to overclock your HDX16 I figured you might know

 

Well I never changed the BIOS. Nvidia control panel says I have 62.94.2D.00.07

To overclock, I use rivatuner's force mode. I actually have already posted in that topic on page 17 how I OC'd, with pictures pointing what to do

 

Hey thanks I hope it helps him

 

What clocks are people finding ok with no cooler on the graphics card? I have a dv5-1011ea (basically the dv5t for the UK) and if I use the original OP's clock speeds (ie: 640/1280/570) and play call of duty 4, the graphics start messing up...

At the moment I'm using 560/1280/443 with no problems but I haven't tested it playing intensively for more than 20mins?

What settings are people using without a cooler? or is no cooler in its self a bad idea?

Ta everyone x

 

kaybing27 - I wouldn't game intensively without a cooler using the 9600M GT

 

Ahhh, but one thing you must remember Cammeron johnson is that it is very cold here in old blighty (the uk ) so a cooler isnt necessarily required if idle temps are low enough, of which they should be given the current weather

kaybing27 what sort of idle temps are you getting and what temps at stock in game??

 

Not all memory chips, graphics cores, etc... are indenticle. They all have variances. Just because one person's 9600MGT with DDR2 can do 570, doesn't mean they all can. Back off your memory and core a bit. I have mine running at 550 as the difference between 550 and 570 is ridiculously minor. Also, back the core down a bit to 600 or so. Ultimately, you will see a sizable increase in performance from just running the memory at 550, changing nothing else since the DDR2 versions are starved for memory bandwidth.

Also, for those concerned about battery life but still want to do some gaming, I have made a profile in Riva Tuner to easily switch the clocks. The default 2D mode is 169/250/100, this is pathetic... This setting is starved for memory bandwidth. I noticed a huge difference when I just did 150, 300, 200 and the difference in power is negligable, but it allows you to play older 3D based games without the huge power draw.

Example - King's Bounty plays fine on all settings low at 150/300/200 and the temperate only peaks to 66c in a 25c ambient temperature. The same game, played at default clocks shoots up until the 80c+ in addition to enabling the fan speed higher (more noise) and increasing power consumption so the battery life is drasticly reduced. Just my thoughts on the matter.

 

I have done the same, 169.338.100 as downclock profile and have enabled rivatuner to apply those clocks on start-up, and whn I want to run any game I just manually apply 660.1600.570 which I have set as overclock profile.

 

why am i getting 1 and 2 FPS in 3dmark06 in the gpu tests?
i have a 9600m gt clocked at 400/800/400

 

any clues why riva tuner worked for me (2d and 3d switching was fine)
and now it only works when i force the profile and it takes effect after restart?

 

If the dv5 is running 2.5ns (400MHz) RAM then 570MHz is truly amazing. I've got a CQ45-107TX (very similar to dv4 system board wise if not the same) which runs a 9200M GS with 256MB DDR2 and those are definitely 400MHz chips. If its any consolation Kaybing27 I had trouble trying 560MHz and ended up with 700/1700/520.

 

I was thinking another reason for the low overclocks on some peoples computers could be voltage to the GPU could it not?

(not that i myself would ever touch the voltage on anything especially to a laptop)

(Btw the attachment is because I know theres prob somebody out there that has been annoyed at my posts.. and i've been annoyed at peoples posts sometimes too sooooo this is for all of us) God I love VGCats

 

I was just wondering what's the best way to switch between OC settings and normal stock settings with rivatuner. I want an easy way to turn off all the OCing for when I'm running on battery.

I find that even if I set up profiles you can't have a profile with "force constant performance mode" switched off.

Ta x

 

Hey, I have the dv5-1000 CTO Entertainment Notebook PC and when I go to download the BIOS I cant find it, I only found the F.11 A version and that is what I currently have... Some one please help me!

 

when using the HP website there should be a "previous" selection next to the old BIOS but i already searched it up to make sure and i figured id just copy and paste the link so here is the BIOS


http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3753572&os=2093&lang=en

 

Thanks man, I found that out a second after I posted anyway. But I have another problem. I can't get my clock speeds to stick when I start a game like crysis or halo 2... It just goes down to 500/1250/3something

 

I've no idea sorry.. my DV5T should be in tomorrow and i play crysis so ill see if i have the problem... try the dv5t owners
forum

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=277341&page=457

 

I got it to work, I didn't do the first thing he told us to do which is downloading custom forceware 180.70. I GET 10 MORE FPS PLAYING CRYSIS!!!! This is great man. I don't know why but people complain how hot their dv5t gets. Mine at normal operation gets 42-44 degrees celsius. When I play 650/1350/565 gets to 75 degrees celsius after an hour. My fan is silent most of the time when i play. Good luck with ur dv5t, I love mine now!