*HP ENVY 14 & ENVY 14 Beats (2XXX series) Owners Lounge*

It is obvious that the hard drive has to be a usb 3.0.

But my question is how come it won't be much faster?

 

Because the speed at which your hard drive can read/write will be the limiting factor, so unless you have a really fast one or SSD (capable of true USB 3 speeds) you won't see a huge difference.

 

Anyone speak Chinese? I just found this on a Chinese auction site! Looks too good to be true!

Edit: I found the Beats version and it has a 1600×900 display!!!

 

Don't trust the Chinese! Did you see where they changed the resolution on the beats version? The radiance display doesn't actually fit into the beats version. Also if you click through the feedback from the other seller its not good and the seller has yet to sell one of those.

 

Ah yeah, I knew it was too good to be true

 

I go from hard drive to hard drive, and both hard drives are 3.0 usb using a computer with two 3.0 usb ports.

Would I see a huge difference?

I don't know it this will help but hard drive inside the laptop is 7200rpm. Let me know it I need to provide any extra information to get a correct response.

Again thanks for all the help.

 

Maximum PC | Everything You Need to Know About USB 3.0, Plus First Spliced Cable Photos

 

page 71 doesnt have much going for it so far. can anyone provide some wild envy 14 refresh speculation please.

 

I heard the 14 sb is delayed so they can include usb 4.0, sata IIII, a 1280 screen and the new intel oak bridge. Fingers crossed the rumor is true. Source: cnet antartica.

 

Why wildly speculate? We basically know everything about it from the Malyasian HP site (where it's already available):
HP ENVY 14-2000 Beats Edition Notebook PC series specifications - HP Home & Home Office products
What's interesting is that this Malaysian version includes a USB mouse, printer, case, and Beats Solo headset.

According to HP's Facebook page, they should launch the refresh on June 26th. There's a ton more info there if you're willing to weed through posts about other laptops.
HP for Students - US | Facebook

One thing I saw interesting is this coupon code NBEN1926 which is for $100 off the Envy 14, but it expires on the 26th. Not sure if it will apply to the new one or not.

Also, according to one of the HP reps (posted 7 hours ago) it will be released "very soon". Obviously open to interpretation, but I haven't seen them say that before so we could be looking at sometime earlier than the 26th.

 

Just tried to go to the US website and click on the Envy series. It's a broken link at the moment. I'm hopeful that this means they're updating the page at this very moment with the refresh...

To see for yourself, go here and then under Laptops on the top menu, select Envy.

Update, you can preorder on JR.com http://www.jr.com/hp/pe/HP_NV142050SE/
Update 2, it's on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/HP-14-2050SE-Beats-Notebook-Black/dp/tech-data/B0051OLNHE/ref=de_a_smtd but they list the processor incorrectly and don't have many details.

 

Just tried the site. It's fine.. :-( c'mon hp!

 

Still giving me the "We're sorry, the page requested was not found" message. Are you on the US site? And sure you're not viewing a cached version?

 

: the specs on amazon are:
Technical Details
Brand Name: HP
Display Size: 14.5 inches
Model: LW398UA#ABA
Operating System: Windows Vista Home Permium 64-bit
Computer Cpu Manufacturer: Intel
Computer Cpu Type: Intel Core Duo
Hard Disk Size: 750 GB
Hard Disk Description: 750GB (7200RPM) Hard Drive (SATA) with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
RAM Memory Technology: 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 DIMM)
Hardware Platform: PC
Data Link Protocol: Ethernet
Item Package Quantity: 1

Note: windows vista?! Lol?!

 

Yeah. Using an iPhone but just tried on a different computer and I could sill access.

 

Lol I know. They have have just used a template to fill out that info. I'm pretty sure the Envy hasn't used a Core Duo processor ever...at least since HP bought Voodoo.

 

HP site is up. Looks like it did previously, nothing new.
The Amazon link doesn't really show any identifying information.

The JR link has good specs and appears to be the new Envy (which will get better battery life )

 

When you go to the link I provided above, hover your mouse over Laptops in the menu. A popup will come up listing some of their different series. Click on Envy (don't click directly on Laptops). That Envy link will be broken. This is how I've always gotten to the Envy page, so it has definitely changed since this morning when I last checked.

 

"Get $100 off the ENVY 14 & ENVY 14 Beats!
Use coupon code: NBEN1926 (expires 6/26/11)"

sooooooo June 27th refresh???

 

One more @ J&R, Basicaly the same, but with SSD
HP ENVY 14-2070NR 14.5" Notebook PC

 

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but the SB Envy 14 is already being offered by a certain telco here in Singapore.

PCSHOW 2011

I have a DV6-6100 with a 6770m, is it that much different in terms of performance with 6630? I sold my 1st gen i5 for this DV6, but I miss the backlit keyboard (and the flex on my DV6's keyboard is horrible). Though I am getting great performance and frame rates with my DV6.

 

Are you using the 6770m or the integrated? The 6770m will have better performance, but I wouldn't think it would be a dramatic difference.
And we've known about the Singapore one for a few pages...

 

Bit late to the party on this, but just thought I'd point out that Taobao is full of shady dealers, especially in electronics. Envys aren't available here either, so any true Envys on Taobao are imported and subject to tariffs, which is why a lot of them are last year's models in excess of $2000. Actually, to the best of my knowledge, the >$3000 Envy 13 is still on display at my local computer market, even though I'm pretty sure they only ever had one of them there...

In other words, a lot of the Envys there, almost definitely including the two you posted, are likely to be fakes of some kind or another. Very possibly they're inferior machines crammed into discarded Envy chassis with pirated versions of Windows hacked to misrepresent the hardware in the system properties, if not at a deeper level than that. Or maybe they're just old 2010 refurbs with false advertising. Or maybe they're destined to get lost in the mail and claimed for shipping insurance. Either way, that stuff's probably shady as all-get-out.

 

Highly doubt that, we've found the Envy 14 Beats on HP's Signapore website about a week ago. It's also on the Malaysia site and cropping up on several US sites. Most likely the real deal.

 

On Notebookcheck's Mobile GPU comparison charts, I believe I counted 38 different GPUs in between the 6630M and the 6770M - the 6770 is considered one of the lower high-range GPUs there, while 6630 is in the bottom half of mid-range. In other words, your 6770M is a major improvement over the 6630, to the tune of the 6630 being able to handle stuff for 2-3 years at 720p and the 6770 likely to last 3-4 years at 1080p.

That last sentence isn't a scientific, experienced assessment, by the way, so I can't back it entirely. All I can say for sure is that the 6770 is way more powerful than the 6630. If the actual final release of the Envy 14 is packing nothing better than that 6630, it'll stumble on a lot of games that have already come out, not to mention new stuff.

I've mentioned this before, but an Envy 14 Sandy Bridge refresh with 1366x768, 6630M, and 4 1/2-5 hours of battery life is a joke of a premium laptop. The display puts off a lot of premium users right away, the GPU is too weak for anyone but a casual gamer, and the battery life is only moderate in this day and age. It's a PC for the fashion-conscious casual user, nothing more. If HP doesn't surprise us out of the gate or get its act together soon, the Envy 14 will only be a MBP-competitor among those for whom image trumps everything else.

 

The Beats edition he linked was not only advertised at a price too low to be true unless it was stolen out of the factory (okay, that's actually a possibility), but it advertised the screen as 1600x900 in one place and 1366x768 in another. The picture was also identical to the photograph from other listings for differently-configured models at prices up to double the listing he linked to. I didn't have time to really scrutinize the rest of the listing, but I'd bet that 7900 RMB price tag that it was either fake or stolen, with my money firmly on fake.

Like I said, Taobao is really shady when it comes to electronics - none of my friends would buy electronics on Taobao unless they're specifically looking for a cheap knock-off, and they've been using Taobao and hearing horror stories from their friends for years now (as you'll note, I'm living in China and have been here for four years now, so I've got at least some degree of knowledge on this stuff).

 

You're a small portion of the market. The middle class and others with money to spend but not a lot of knowledge (college students) aren't going to be so discriminating about the screen and the graphics. And then others like me will be perfectly satisfied without the high res screen or high-end graphics card because they realize it's about more than just two parts in a computer. It's about the whole thing. I'm not sure where your battery life claim comes from either.

If he's doing some heavy gaming on the latest stuff then sure he'd need the 6770m. But for running recent games on low-medium settings or older games on medium-high settings, he'll be fine. I'm assuming he's not doing the latest stuff because most people that actually do the latest stuff know what they're looking for and wouldn't have asked what he did.

Amazon is listing the Envy 14 Beats with a Core Duo and 6 MEGAbytes of RAM. I'm sure it's quite possible that this Chinese site put down the wrong specs. Or maybe you're right and it's a scam. Doesn't really matter and not worth making a scene over.

 

Hey guys, I'm planning on returning my dv6tqe for maybe an Envy 14. My main reason is that I think I got a flawed machine that completely cannot access the AMD card. That said, my options are either to send my current laptop back and get a replacement dv6t or get a refund and get the Envy 14 refresh. Any ideas on if the 6630m card will have the messed up dynamic switching graphics that have been rampant with the new dv6t-61xx series (sorry, I'm hoping you guys have some idea on this issue). Also, is there any hope that the Envy will ship with at least a 1600x900 display? One of the main things I'm going to miss from my dv6t is the 1920x1080 FHD display. Thanks guys!

 

The battery life thing was a slightly-improved version of most current E14 users' battery life, adjusted for a 15-25% increase thanks to SB - my estimate could indeed be low, but not by much unless HP made some big changes.

The reason I said what I did was because things like high-quality screens, capable GPU's, and battery life are typically some of the biggest draws of "premium" computers like the Envy claims to be. If the Envy 14 only offers 1366x768, 6630M, and =<5 hours battery life, many manufacturers sell laptops that meet or exceed those specs for less money than the Envy, though they might not have an optional (but overpriced) slice battery or the build quality that the Envy series offers. In other words, if the Envy 14 is only up to the standards I speculated on above, it's basically a $700-800 laptop in a nice case that carries a $200+ premium. It's a classic case of getting less for more. That's just my opinion, but I know it's widely shared here.

And as for the 6770 vs. 6630, the biggest advantage of the 6770 for a moderate gamer is that it'll be valid for current games further into the future - it can be used for new games longer without needing to be replaced, making it a better investment, all other things (including price) being equal.

Not making a scene, just explaining why I said what I did. No worries here. And you're right, Amazon makes a lot of mistakes. I'm just saying that from my experience of living in China, buying electronics, and shopping for computers, the listings that were up there on Taobao were too good to be true.

Note that none of this stuff I'm saying here is meant to be argumentative or defensive, I'm just stating my case.

It's unlikely that the dv6tqe has any problem re: switchable graphics that other AMD GPU-based laptops wouldn't have unless there was some kind of engineering flaw. Generally, that should be a driver thing and not a hardware thing, though I might be wrong.

As for the Envy 14's display, all information points to it only being available with a 1366x768 display, and not even a very good one at that, from everything I've heard about the brightview screen. Don't get me wrong, I love my first-gen Envy 14, but if the only thing scaring you away from sticking with the DV6T (even if you have to get a replacement) is the fear that it'll have a GPU issue, then I would stick with it rather than switching to a new-model Envy 14. If you've got other reasons for switching, or if the Envy 14 as ultimately revealed exceeds the speculation here, then it's a different story.

 

Is the upgrade to an i5 sandy bridge and the new GPU going to be worth $100? Students can get an additional $100 off of an envy while supplies last so I can get a current gen envy for $799 with the i7-740 in it. I am planning on waiting for the sandy bridge because I have heard some horrible things about the current track pad.

 

Honestly the trackpad doesn't bother me very much. For web surfing and general office tasks its pretty easy to get used to (there is a slight learning curve). The software available in the forum is also really useful. If I'm photoshoping or something that requires accuracy I plug in a mouse which is no big deal because I need to plug into a real screen anyway.

Sandy bridge is a nice upgrade in terms of heat and battery life. The graphics card is pretty sub par in the old and the new. If they do release a high res screen I'll buy it as a part and install myself granted nothing changed with the plug (doubt it) for the price right now and the limited benifits of the refresh, the current gen was the right fit for me.

 

I was starting to wonder if all we were going to see was beats black edition refresh.

Holy crap if only I could get your internet here in canada. $40 a month for 100 mbps fibre? $400 a month for 1gbps fibre? holy crap.

 

I would get the new one, unless you can find and old one with a radiance screen.

HP always releases crazy coupons so even if you wait a bit to pick up an envy im sure there will be some coupons.

 

hey guys, to make a long story short, HP has had my envy 14 for the past 5 weeks, and now has offered to replace it for me. I like my old radiance screen but no other laptops have that option now.

would you recommend that I get the dv6t with the 1080p screen (dual core i5), or should I wait for the envy refresh and settle for the lower resolution screen? my main concerns about the dv6t are:

how is the battery life?
are there switchable graphics?
the overall size of it...

i know this may be a bit off topic, but since theres no new news, what would you all suggest?

 

I would wait and get the new envy, push for a better dv6t like quad edition with the 6770 and 2630 and 1080p or envy 17" if you want a laptop that big. I have read a few threads where people got 256gb ssd's, envy 17's, full upgraded laptops for replacements for there radiance screen envy's unless you're happy with a brand new refresh envy push for a upgraded dv6t qe or a envy 17" dont settle for just a plain dv6t .


As for switchable graphics there has been problems very long thread on here regarding dv6t.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-pavilion-notebooks/583203-dv6t-7-switchable-graphics.html

As for battery life cannot comment but check the pavillion section of this forum and the size is not to bad it is not super thick typical 15" laptop saw a few at bestbuy but it's build quality and case/shell is not quite like the envy.

 

i was thinking of pushing for the select edition; quad edition sounds amazing, but I don't think that the value i'd get out of the better processing power would be worth it (vs. better battery life with dual core). the dual core i5 will get better battery life, correct?

I have one more year left in college, so I'd like to go with the 17" envy, but portability is a factor for me . I just got back from best buy and saw the dv6t, it seemed nice. not as good as the envy, but still not bad. maybe I can get a fully loaded dv6t select edition out of them...

 

the battery life difference is not it what once was, I would get the quad, just because of the more pushing power down the road

 

HP better have something good in store for us... with all this delay.

 

i kept thinking the same then got inpatient so i ordered a dv6tqe and received it yesterday, i got 20 days left to return it in case the envy 14 comes out with some real good specs. if it doesnt ill end up keeping it since that 33% discount and the 1080p really make a difference. so far loving most if it, except for the graphics part !!!! hopefully they fix it soon

 

how's the battery life on it for you?

 

i usually always have my laptop plugged in at work and at home. i bought a slim power adapter and keep it work since the stock power block is big. at full battery and my display at 100% my battery meter said it would last 3 hours 9 minutes. i have the 6 cell battery there's an option to get a 9 cell battery that would definitely up the batter life by at least 3 or 4 hours more but im not 100% sure since i dont own that battery.

 

that's actually a lot better than I expected, thanks. i'm trying to decide if I should go with the quad core over the dual core, and apparently - like a previous poster said - there's not much of a battery life difference.

 

my sisters has the current beats envy with a core i5 and ive used it that thing looses battery really quick, this second gen quad core could outlast my sisters envy right now. so im sure the new envys with the 2gen SB will have better battery life, it just depends on the rest of the specs you are looking for to make the decision and also for it to be released lol since its still not even out!

 

do you guys know if hp will leave the 200$ coupon for the envy 14 when they release it?

i can't spend more than 800$/900$ for a laptop and i really like the envy. With the current configurations and coupon i can afford it but what about when the sb comes out?

 

hp will most likely make sure that the coupon and any deals pertaining to the current envy end when the SB envy comes out. theyre trying to get rid of old stock right now which is why theyre giving out deals

 

Actually, the difference between the HD 6630 and the 6770 is quite huge.
As an example, the 6770 scored over 40% faster than the 6630 in 3dmark 06 (the machine with the 6770 pushing a higher resolution on top of that), and 76% faster in 3dmark vantage (both benchmarked machines running at the same resolutions).

The HD 6630m isn't nearly as good a card as the 6770. Basically, it's using the same 480 core architecture, but with significantly lower clock rates.

If you want to know more about these cards, just look at these links:

AMD Radeon HD 6770M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
AMD Radeon HD 6630M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

Anyone have any info regarding the price of the various refreshed envy14 models?

 

Im still checking the HP facebook pages for updates on the release of the SB Envy.. and today, a HP rep wrote: "Things are looking good for June 26th go live on the Envy Sandy Bridge, non Beats Edition.". Yay. Just wanted to let you guys know too, in case you're not checking it

 

I know it's not nearly as important as the actual specs, but does anyone know if they will bundle the headphones in with the new Beats Edition Envy? Why did they take them out anyway? The headphones was one of the main attractions that set the Beats edition apart from others, now its just a black Envy...

 

They are available in a Malaysian Kung Fu Panda deal right now, so maybe they are back? Just look: A worthy companion for the dragon warrior within.