*HP ENVY 14 & ENVY 14 Beats (2XXX series) Owners Lounge*

Being used with a certain processor doesn't really reflect the capabilities of a GPU. That's why any graphics performance tests are done on same base system, and then they just switch out the graphics in an attempt to change as few variables as possible.

I'm not really sure who you're referring to when you say some certain party tested it with Sandy Bridge and Nehalem.

 

Well thats just a result of poor testing as that implies that the test was being CPU limited not GPU limited, making it not a GPU test at all.

 

not true..
Games always have more frames/sec if they have a better cpu.
Unless you gonna run furmark forever?

 

It depends on the processor and graphics card combination. But the point is, that good testing should keep the hardware as similar as possible and only change one thing at a time.

 

Hmmm if this does come with a 6770m or simillar then I will take the Beats Version but if its a much weaker GPU then I will pass and wait for the new Vaio Z.

 

It's pretty much confirmed to be 6330m.

 

I'd return my new DV6t if the Envy14 came with a 6750m or better, and a display that did 1600x900.

 

just an observation, but that is probably good support for the opinion that HP won't supply the Envy 14 with a 6750m -- or the HD+ display for that matter, for this refresh anyway. As an aside, while I doubt HP will put a 1600x900 display into the Envy 14 this time around, I wonder if the market will sustain such a decision very long

 

far from true, they are neck to neck, if you compare it with a 4670m and a 5730m there is an improvement, and since the latter is supposed to replace the former.....

 

Neck to neck, if you compare 5650M underclocked to high clocked 4670M.. than..

 

nonsense, sheer amount of it

 

I don't consider one article with no source given to be "pretty much confirmed," to be honest, especially when no one else has reported it. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what it gets but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets an AMD6750, either.

 

Interesting, although keep in mind that Brightview and Radiance has nothing to do with resolution.

the Envy 13 had 1366x768 "Radiance" display

And the Envy 15 had 1920x1080 "Brightview" display, which has excellent color reproduction and although it does not have as high light output as the Radiance, it is certainly bright enough unless you like gaming outside in bright sunlight

IMO I would take 1080p Brightview over 900p or 768p Radiance any day.

 

oh yes I'm just pointing out what HD and HD+ means, apart from Radiance or Brightview, which are just HP marketing terms. and as for brightness, I agree as well. the Envy 17's 3D display is rated at 400 nits (thats extraordinary) and the 1080p 2D panel at 300. the "darkest" display that HP supplies in the Envy and DV lines (as I know) is 200 nits. As an aside, 200 nits is brighter than necessary for indoor use; I'm aware that photographers calibrate to something less than that.

 

I'm pretty certain that "Brightview" and "Radiance" are just HP marketing terms which say nothing at all about the display's characteristics. The wide color gamut, high contrast of the Envy 15"s "brightview" screen, as compared to the Envy 14's anemic "brightview" is the exception that proves this rule. I think they will be reluctant to trot out the "Radiance" label anytime soon, though, as it has now become more associated with HP fiascos than with a super bright, high contrast, high res screen. BTW, I think the Radiance in the Envy 13 was 1600 x 900, not 1366 x 768.

 

That Radeon 6750 would be amazing! I've always been an Nvidia guy but that would make this a no brainer buy for me.

 

I would too, except... I have not seen 1920x1080 14" screens yet ...
So I'll settle for the exceedingly rare 1600x900 14"

 

I hope it is incorrect or at least just the base spec where we can choose to upgrade when configuring, a 6330m would be a major let down on a machine like this

 

You guys think HP will be releasing specs before June 15?

 

I'll even settle for a "paper release" just so I have something solid to go on...anticipation is killing me.

 

Ya I know, I am dying to find out if they will have an HD screen. And the GPU ofcourse

 

Hope so, so I can now if I should start looking belsewhere if they disappoint

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Oh and if they don't put in a 6750 or 900p it is brand suicide

 

Ya man that's what I am thinking. HP can't release this thing without an HD screen option and something better than the 6630 atelast.

 

if they dont put it on par or even above the MBP, it sure is brand suicide.

Though now the dv6 is pretty nice now, so I have good hopes for the envy

 

I wouldn't exactly say that. Many people will buy it for its looks and the performance should be good enough for them.

Most importantly their competitors have dropped the ball a bit when they could have made up ground.

New Vaio S has a low quality screen and a horrible trackpad while the Dell XPS15z just looks boring and lame. I'd go for something like the Samsung series 9 but there have been a lot of issues with fingerprints and a really bad wifi card.

 

The 15z I wouldn't say is a competitor. I'd compare it to the M14x. Is the Sony S screen you mean the 768 or the 900?

 

Lol yea this. I will probably still end up getting it even if it gets a 6630 and the same screen. The Envy Beats black and red is just too sexy, and the M14x just looks to ugly or I would pick it up in a heartbeat fully loaded.

 

the M14x, besides being technically great, is just plain horrid looking and only targets a small segment of buyers..

 

If I may interject here. Opinion of course, but we may be able to take a cue from the Envy 17 Sandy Bridge hardware refresh earlier this year, which was essentially a processor, chipset, and switchable graphics upgrade. The discrete GPU was refreshed to the 6850, which is still in the same general performance ballpark as its predecessor, the 5850. no panel upgrade (although there's not much room for improvement there...)

The change from a 5650 to a 6630 in the Envy 14 would be similarly boring, if one is expecting a game-changing “wow”.

I’m just saying the Envy 17 refresh is evidence that HP may do that. I don’t know where the 6630 prediction came from, and I agree that claims and statements on rumor websites should not be trusted (witness the rumor that the Envy 14’s new “imagepad” was an optical sensor...). But that aside, based on the Envy 17 experience I’d say the strength of evidence does support the 6630 claim, as well as the suggestion that there will be no panel upgrade.

 

Multiple sources have stated 6330m.

 

I thought it was just CNET Asia. Also I think HP might really deliver on the HD display, I mean what would have made them wait til now to release this thing, and not with the Envy 17, if all they were changing was the SandyBridge. I hope all this time wasn't just spent on the new clickpad

 

Not to be rude, but who else besides that CNET Asia blog?

 

Couldn't seem to find it. I could have sworn I've seen it elsewhere (I do a fresh search for Envy 14 every morning) but maybe I just saw others repeating it here on the forums.

HP Envy 14 Refreshed with Sandy Bridge and Better Trackpad
Not going to have a higher resolution screen.

 

Wouldn't trust that source too much. Well I guess I will be able to play games a higher settings then I could if it was HD














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Why don't you trust it? Do you have a specific reason?

 

Just not trusting anything until HP releases info or product. Most of these articles have no source.

 

Does anyone know if the keyboard will be backlit?

I wouldve already bought the dv6tqe if it had the backlit keyboard. Im not so sure why it doesnt.....

 

I am pretty sure the backlit keyboard will be there

And yes the dv6 lacks it badly

 

I'm not sure how much work you want to put into it but it can't be that hard to wire up some LEDs under the keyboard and maybe replace the keyboard with a more translucent one. just thought of that but never tried it. Bet it could be done if that was the only option.

 

Isn't the DV6 backlit KB a simple swap since the backlit power ribbon socket is on the mainboard?

Bronsky

 

Any improvements to the battery power? It was kinda average to rubbish before :/
I'd like at least 6 hours...

 

Most likely the battery life will be shorter. If you're really concerned about the battery, you could buy the slice battery attachment and you should get decent life then.

 

Ì dont think so, since the dv6 was redesigned this year, in the last year model, yes, this is true

 

this is true, i read that there is only like a 4 pin connector available whereas the keyboard user a 5 pin connector or something like that..

 

i thought that with SB etc. the battery life would improve?

 

The processor itself may draw less power. Or it might draw more. But there's other factors, such as the graphics card which is also receiving an update. Generally, the more powerful the hardware, the more power is drawn. Although it's possible that the power efficiency might be better.

 

its certainly going to draw less power, since there is switchable gpus, there is absolutely no way that a ''high end'' laptop like that aint gonna have it, when 500 bucks laptops can do it

 

The old one has switchable GPU also. So that doesn't really add to the argument that it will have better life.

 

HP - Everybody On - New HP Products, News, Events

Click on Envy 14 there, and it confirms backlit keyboard will be in it. Not really a surprise.

 

well actually yes. Since that switchable gpus is going to be there, the battery would probably be the same one, the processor has lower c-states and more powerful power gating tech (pun intended), thus leading to a better battery life