*HP ENVY 14 (1XXX series) Owners Lounge, Part 1*

they allowed the dm4t to be reviewed but not the envy... very strange indeed

 

I got the DM4t last week and it's pretty good except some fan noise, if Envy 14 is only $200 more I will return the DM4t and get the Envy. Better screen, graphic card and premium line. I feel Envy 14 is like Acura and DM4t is like Honda~

 

Oooh thanks much, if this is true, not just the 2 exhausts but if the side one has been moved to the right, this could be HUGE for dealing with left palmrest heat.

Planning to call in for the return RMA on my e17 tonight, very likely to order an e14 in it's place and give it a test, though going from a nice large screen to a small one will be kinda sad. Don't know if I want to sit without a laptop for 2 weeks waiting for reviews though.

 

http://s7d2.scene7.com/skins/HPShop...tialFrame=2&instanceName=_1277931365521_popup

right side. got a vent.

edit: you can't see the back vent in these pictures, but it's there (and only gets covered halfway by the screen not completely).

 

Anyone think the 256GB SSD is worth it?

 

Thanks for the confirmation. Happy to hear and frustrated immensely as such a similar design on the e17 would have made it perfect IMO. As is, e17 isn't usable for me due to heat. Putting all that under the numpad that I never use would have done wonders for my experience.

 

Yep E14 has an exhaust on the right side and the slot load on the left..I never noticed that the slot load was on the right for the E17. Hopefully this means the E14 won't have the same heat issues as the E17 (knock on wood). My Swissgear Lancer backpack arrived today, definitley looks nice and it has tons and tons of pockets..it will be great for college and it has a padded pocket for my Envy =) Recommend it for anyone that needs to buy a backpack for school. I got it for $35 when BCB was 25% (original price is 70). I have been looking for a sleeve too, am looking at this one atm ( The Cache: laptop protection with minimal bulk: TOM BIHN) a little pricey but it seems like good material.

 

yeah, but not from hp, their price is crazy

 

No its not... Lvivkse, where do you see cheaper 256 GB SSD's?

Amazon.com: 256 gb ssd

The $600-1000 range 256gb ssd's on that site not including shipping & tax say otherwise

 

the cheapest 256 GB SSD on newegg is $550 or so, which makes HP's price of $565 decently close. 256 GB SSDs can cost up to about $750, so depending on what model it is, it might be a good deal, like with the 160 gb SSD

 

Ya, just FYI, if you get an i7 and a platter drive, there will still be heat issues, it will just be questionably noticeable if it's localized to the right side of the laptop. I strongly urge anyone who will actually be using theirs as a laptop to go with an i5 or less, and an ssd to avoid heat. I definitely learned my lesson from the e17.

And ya, the swissgear bags are awesome, I love mine in the 17 inch flavor. If I do end up going with an e14, I'll return/replace with with a 14 inch version.

 

and since there is no Acura outside the US, that makes Envy 14 a Honda

 

Yea I don't need a i7, so i got the i5-520M for the switchable graphics and less heat/power, but no SSD =/

 

yeah I got the 520m but no ssd 'cause the ssd costs too much for me.

 

I haven't visited here in a bit and don't feel like looking though all the pages I missed...
have any Germans gotten their envys yet?

 

For a secondary storage hdd (in hdd caddy) would you rather have:

a) 500GB Momentus XT Hybrid or
b) 750GB Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD7500BPVT

My Os/App drive will be 160gb SSD.

 

Curious, does the e14 have a subwoofer like the e17? This was one really nice feature that I was hoping to keep on whatever laptop I ended up with.

 

I'm under the impression that the momentus won't do much if it's not an OS/app drive. (it caches stuff that's used a lot in the 4gig ssd spot, but if that's not the os booting up/apps being used..well..*shrugs*)


I'd go with the 750 gig one

 

Unfortunately not, we were promised delivery by now but the last few days delivery was postponed to friday. So it sounds more like next monday or so...

 

Well...just got an email back from HP
I told them I was disappointed with the CPU options and asked if they were going to offer the i5-540 or i7-620 in the future, asked about the specs of the 2 different SSDs, and asked to confirm if the $200 battery upgrade is in fact the slice battery, because while people here have said it is, the wording still made me doubt it.

"Dear ******,

Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center

I understand that you are considering purchasing the new HP ENVY 14 series Notebook PC at the HP Home & Home Office Store, but you have some concerns on its components.

We don't any information if the processor options will change any time soon. I am sorry for the inconvenience. Also, I regret to inform you that as of the moment we still don't have any detailed information on its entire specifications. Please check with us again for more updates.

With regard to the battery of the HP ENVY 14 series Notebook PC, it is not a slice battery."

Hmmm...

 

I think it's been proved before that the people taking orders and responding to emails are pretty clueless. With that said, I ordered the 'extended battery' and if it's not the slice, it's all going back.

 

Amazon has updated the Technical Details on their Pre-Order model:
14.5" diagonal HD+ HP Radiance Infinity LED Display (1600x900); ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 switchable graphics with 1024MB DDR3 with up to 3738MB total graphics memory; SuperMulti 8X DVD±R/RW with Double Layer Support; Beats Audio

The Product Description & Datasheet still say it is 1366 x 768. And the battery estimates are also off, so... yeah, still conflicting information.

Still catching up to this thread, sorry if this info is a repost.

 

Wait, Teekay,,

HP had a typo? "We don't any information"?

Maken em look bad XD

 

If the screen truly is the Radiance display, isn't that a decent deal for Californians at $1,199 with no taxes? $500gb, Radiance, i5-450M, 6gb...I might have to consider!

 

I spent an hour on the phone with a sales rep, who also stated that the 6-cell is not a slice.

 

Looks like a good deal. Wasnt the Envy17 thorugh Amazon really late in shipping?

 

A $200 6-cell that is not a slice? Hm... I just ordered one with the 6-cell. If that's not the slice, I'm not going to be happy. Probably end up returning the whole thing.

 

I'm still planning to purchase this, but I want all the facts straight before I order from Amazon. I could spend the additional $140.00 on HP Website to get the display I want, but I'd rather use that money to swap out the Harddrive for a Seagate Momentus XT.

If I had to guess though it probably will be a bit before these units will be released. HP will most likely fulfill all their orders first before completing the ones for Amazon. The ENVY 17 has been sitting on the site in pre-order status over a month... just a guess though, I have no affiliation with Amazon or their order process.

 

That is a great deal! I might just end up getting it at Amazon and waiting on a deal for a SSD.

 

LOL...

I once got an email from HP that made me think Yoda was temping for them.

 

Hey guys Im now in the process of finding a neoprene sleeve for the laptop ( one that isn't bulky like the HP one) and I'm having a hard time. Any suggestions ? Would 14' sleeves fit due to the slim factor of the Envy 14 ?

 

In my experience with HP CTO notebooks (I got a dv5000z, a tx2000z, and a tx2500z, and it seems like they drop ship huge batches of them at a time from China, and in each case I got my laptop in 2-3 business days, even though I took the free 5-7 business days shipping every time. I hope things are still running as smoothly now as they were a couple summers ago.

 

Hah. If you want to talk about funny e-mails, check out some of the ones Woot.com sends out. They once sent out a mass e-mail to customers concerning a redundancy in a cable promotion. They told buyers that if they ever dared to try double-dipping by using their other coupon code, they said "We'll do more than just deliver the cables. And I'll give you a hint. It doesn't involve TVs."

 

I have been looking too..I found this one it seems really nice a little high of a price point but still cheaper than HPs. The Cache: laptop protection with minimal bulk: TOM BIHN. Looks sleek and it has nice material. The size 2S-Horizontal seems to be perfect for the E14 it has interior dimensions of 14.5 × 10.8 × 1.7 inches and it isnt bulky at all. Costs $30 looks like a good buy.

 

Anyone know when this is to be released in Canada?

Thanks

 

does anyone know if replacing the current hdd with a momentus voids the standard warranty?

 

That would be ridiculous if it did. Replacing any of the standard parts like RAM or HDD should not affect the warranty.

 

I have zero faith in anything their reps say.

 

Lets not forget that the official marketing materials specify it as a slice. I'll trust that over a sales person who, for the most part, has the same information that's given on the order page which just specifies an 'extended' battery.

High Performance Laptops w/ Free Audio Software | HP Envy Features

In other news, I took the advice of someone else, and tried to downgrade from a 520m to a 450m....they ended up giving me $50 off my whole order, (not 100 as someone else had received) but it's better than nothing...I was planning on getting the 520 anyway ....

 

Also, it is still "6GB DDR3 System Memory (3 DIMM)". 3 DIMM ? Maybe Amazon is just copying information from the HP website.

Anyway, the same config on HP cost $1315 now. Add tax then subtract 10% student/BCB discount, the difference is around $100 (using 8.75% sales tax for CA). I might order this instead if they can confirm the screen resolution and release date.

 

wow Hp is soooo sneaky. Its like they dont care about customers at all and just want to seep the money from everyone. Even dell is better which is why they have a much bigger market share. Lied about slice battery, which they stated was a slice with regards to the envy line when you clicked the help me choose button when upgrading. Lied multiple times about the battery life. Lied about the start price, lied about the base specs. Seriously not just sales reps or what not. IT WAS DIRECTORS of hp. check youtube videos. I have a feeling this is going to be a let down. Might as well all boycott their cheating sale tactics. I have a feeling im going to return my envy 14.

 

That Amazon pre-order looks pretty good now @ $1,199 with 1600x900 screen.

So if you compare this to CTO version,

Base MSRP $1,099
i5 450 (+$75)
6GB DDR3 (+$100)
500GB HDD (+$40)
Total $1,314
w/ ~8% tax -> ~$1419
w/ 10% EPP -> ~$1277

So it is actually cheaper to buy the model from Amazon if you like the configuration as-is, assuming you don't have any other coupons. Also one other advantage is if Amazon gets it, you can opt for 1 day shipping and have ENVY 14 sitting on your lap the very next day

 

Officially ordered mine yesterday (just couldn't wait any longer ). Thanks for all the advice everyone on what specs to purchase.

HP ENVY 14 customizable Notebook PC

* • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
* • Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-450M Dual Core processor (2.40GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)with Turbo Boost up to 2.66 GHz
* • 4GB DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm)
* • 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
* • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 switchable graphics - For Dual Core Processors
* • 14.5" diagonal HD+ HP Radiance Infinity LED Display (1600x900)
* • SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
* • HP TrueVision HD Webcam + Dual Digital Integrated Microphones
* • Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth
* • Corel(R) PaintShop Photo(TM) Pro X3 + Corel(R) VideoStudio(R) Pro X3
* • Full-size island-style backlit keyboard
* • 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
* • Microsoft(R) Office Starter 2010
* • $1! SAVE NOW!! Norton Internet Security(TM) 2010 - 15 Month Subscription (activation required)
* • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

Estimated ship date: July 9, 2010

I also ordered the Swissgear 15.6" Granite Backpack for $37.53 with student discount. Hoping it's better than my last Swissgear product which did not last very long before it broke.

MN Tax $83.98

Grand total $1,238.40
Cheers

 

A - we know that the Envy 14 has a slice

B - a regular replacement battery costs $75, the 6-cell extended battery is $200, indicating that it's superior to the 8-cell replacement.

C - some reps have confirmed that it is a slice, some haven't, but most of us should have learned not to trust HP's reps by now - they're not well-informed, but they often answer questions anyway.

If it's not the slice, what would it be? Why would they make and market a weaker extra battery than the basic one? If it's not the slice, then where is the slice that's always mentioned alongside the Envy 14 itself?

Finally, if it's not the slice, they're giving a whole lot of us at least $150 back or taking a whole ton of returns in the first few days they start arriving in customers' hands.

 

ah, that sucks! I look forward to hearing about your experiences!

 

soo how did you guys get like 50-100$ off for trying to downgrade components. Did you have to do that like right after you ordered? I tried but my order was already being produced.

 

Agreed. There's no way it can be just another smaller battery for $200. Still, it would be nice if the configurator stated that it was a slice.

 

Btw buying the amazon config direct through hp with student discount is still cheaper than the amazon price. Cause you dont get student discounts with that. Amazon is cheaper for all others as BCB is now only 5%.

 

Hmm, actually, this conflicting information on the "extended battery" and the Amazon config might be a good opportunity to finagle a discount - not counting the "extended battery", I paid about the same for my setup with less RAM and less hard drive space than the Amazon model. Those upgrades combine for about $100 more on HP's CTO. Then, if the rep is convinced it's not the slice battery, then I definitely won't stand for $200 for it...

Best case scenario, $200 off... Worst case, probably cancelling my order, rebuying from Amazon (or pricematching through HP) and figuring out what to do about the slice later. Not sure if I like the worst-case there, since I can't be sure that Amazon would deliver it before I head back to China...

...waffling on the call - I'll definitely update you guys if I ring them up.

 

BCB is 10% search bing cash back and it shows HP direct as 10%.