*HP ENVY 14 (1XXX series) Owners Lounge, Part 1*

Ah, that's the problem. Thanks.

 

anyone who ordered on release date got a shipping notification?

 

Yeah, 250 for a 160gb SSD is pretty unheard of, where is this at?

 

Hello!

I have a request for our German friends who have received their Envy 14s already:

I have seen that erathostenes has run the Final Fantasy XIV benchmark in 1080p, and as a Final Fantasy fan, I thank you for that, but if you could run the Final Fantasy XIV benchmark in 720p, that would be awesome!

I really don't want to have to save up and build a separate gaming rig if the Envy 14 can't handle FFXIV, but I really can't guess if the Radeon Mobility 5650 can run the game (the 5650 is right on the fence as far as meeting the requirements).

Here is the link to the benchmark, in case it is needed:
FINAL FANTASY XIV Official Benchmark

Thank you very much for everything you've both been doing for the "community."

 

Correction: Eyefinity on latest mobility GPU's run up to 6 displays, in case you and other were not aware

 

I haven't heard anything. Still in production with an expected build date of today, July 7th.

 

I'm pretty sure it's here:

Newegg.com - DANE-ELEC DA-SDM25-160G-N-T-MK 2.5" 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

e14, if this is the place, you got a gen 1, not gen 2 Intel SSD.

 

Thats awesome, I thought I had read somewhere that it could only drive 2 at a time, but I couldn't find the link.. and when I investigated again it said 6 . Yay!

 

I wouldn't exactly consider 4500 posts as being 'in the shadows'

 

2.0, I think the link to erathostenes review is broken.

 

Read the newegg review:

Cons: No where does it say that this is the G1 product, with half the cache and about 1/3rd worse benchmarking results than the G2 version. The only way you find that out is after you open the package.

 

I'm doing chemical engineering, and I know a few people in the department who are juniors who are ordering the envy. They got cheap computers for their first year since they didn't really need the power, then endured soph. year. I decided to get one computer that will hopefully last all 4 years...the Envy 14.

What else are you considering?

 

It really depends on what kind of applications you use and how you use them. If you use the same limited set of applications consistently then you should see some nice performance gains with the XT compared to a traditional HD; and you should definitely see reduced start-up/wake-up times for Windows, a big plus if you turn the system on and off with any frequency. On the other hand, the more variety you have in how you use the computer, the more the small size of the solid state portion of the XT makes it just a good-but-not-extraordinary HD.

My thinking is that within 3-4 months both the pricing of SSDs will have fallen and there will be more/better hybrid drives on the market, which is why I'm waiting. That said, bailing on the XT just because it isn't best on every single test seems premature, you need to consider how you will be using it.

 

I applied for the credit back due to the lower CPU prices and I was told I would receive $23.04. When I checked my order online, I saw I had received the credit, but the description was for the backpack I had also ordered (swissgear lancer). Does this mean that they incorrectly credited me and if I were to call back and speak with a different agent that I could get the CPU credit (again?). Or did the price of the backpack lower without my knowledge and I was credited for the wrong item?

 

I did EE for undergrad. Honestly, any time I needed heavier computer power, it was for software that I didn't have a license for anyway. I would usually just go to the labs and run it on a desktop there, which were almost always faster than my computer.

It's nice to have processing power, but unless you are running the software on your own computer, it may not be a big deal. Even some of the uglier MATLAB stuff I ran on my computer in undergrad didn't take more than a 15 minutes or so- but obviously, it really depends on what you're doing.

 

Have any of the people who ordered on June 27th had their Envy 14 shipped yet?

And to get this straight again, does anyone know where the Envy 14's are being produced? A few pages back people suggested Shanghai and/or China.

 

i have read the envy 14 pdf file, i think it mention a beats version,if it true when hp will offer this model to purchase?

 

It's being produced in Shanghai China, no doubt about that. That's where alot of computers are made actually.

 

Thanks for the results. At least, I know my Acer Aspire TimelineX 4820TG with the Core i3 doesn't run hotter than your Envy 14 with the Core i5.

wPrime on 4820TG

 

I wouldn't even not consider the momentus XT, because 90% of the reviews out there are benching the momentus like a standart or a SSD drive (it means they use the results of the first run of the benchmark) they are then biased. Only a few reviews which are recording second and third launches are showing the huge benefits of the ssd read cache on the XT.
The momentus boosts performances to ssd-likeness only after two or three runs of the app.
In any case, expect windows to always boot twice faster (at second launch, standart is 40s, ssd 15s, momentus 20s) and apps you use everyday to get SSD-like speed up.

 

Nobody knows, and I don't think many of us care - the 15 Beats edition was black and it came bundled with some dj gear (headphones/software), even if you sold the dj stuff at retail prices it was like 2, 300 bucks more.

 

Might have been a temporary glitch. Seems to be working now. How about on your end?

 

Omg I feel like a blonde (no offense)...how did I not connect the simple dots-Shanghai is in China~omgomgomgomomgomgomgomg.

 

They are being built in China. And, nope, no shipping or other notification yet, other than the order page still saying "in production". I ordered the morning it was released.

Although, an HP rep i spoke to yesterday told me that if there were any sort of delay, that HP would have sent me an email with the details. She said that if I hadn't received any "delay issue" emails, that this means that my unit is "on time" and will be built and shipped in accordance with "the stated dates" i got when placing my order.

So, I guess i ought to be receiving a shipping notification by no later than midnight tonight, huh!?

 

Anyone have any insight on a UK release date? We’re dying a bit over here!

David

 

Worked for me just now, as I trolled to see if there were any updates since half an hour ago

 

I just got $100 that should post once the item ships to me. I also will get $157.60 refunded to me for a student discount that didn't apply. I'm optimistic that my bing, fatwallet and Discover cashback bonuses will be granted as well. (each is $75)

So for the following config:
# • Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-450M Dual Core processor (2.40GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)with Turbo Boost up to 2.66 GHz
# • 4GB DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm)
# • 160GB (Solid State Drive Flash Module)

So after sales tax of 6% my total is $1,579.39-$157.60-$100.00-$150.00=

$1171.79

Gotta say that this has turned out to be one heck of a slick deal.

 

barring that you'll receive it in 24-48 hours. The order status page has some lag (meaning by the time you receive the notice, the laptop could already have been shipped and been shipped for a day or so)

 

oh really. Well I was considering a w510 or a y560. For me I plan to do this:

I was thinking of doing personal research and some entertainment (movies, games like crysis 2, 3D modeling, photo shop, editing, music) and other stuff, but since u guys said that power is not needed. well idk XD. Im confused here, half the people say power is needed the other half says no, I change my mind really easily. XD

 

odds are, if you used bing and discover and fatwallet, at least bing will be cancelled

 

If only I hadn't gone cheap on myself, and taken the "standard" shipping.

 

From my experience, they don't cross communicate, so the only way I can see this being cancelled is if they find out about my student discount credit.

To be honest even if none of those discounts come through, it won't effect me, as all of those are just a gamble anyways.

 

same here. oh well. It'll show up when it shows up. Not a thing we can do about it.

 

Sweet, my order is now in production
Placed my order on july 5, dropped to factory july 6, now in production july 7
But this is the killer stage lol

 

ah.

Just wondering, how did you end up getting all 3 at once? Are you just clicking on one cashback link, switching, then switching again before buying it with the last one?

 

Long time reader 1st time poster....
Have a few questions:
1) Can someone run a Final Fantasy 14 benchmark and post scores FINAL FANTASY XIV Official Benchmark
2) Is there a way to make it so it shows more than 10 posts per page

 

1) some dude did that and got 1234 on the high quality (1080p or something) mode.


2) hiding in your user cp options. Control panel --> edit options --> thread display options down near the bottom. Set it to 30 (the max)

 

1234? Oh high? So unplayable?

 

I think.

though I'm not sure who ran that or where it came from just that I think it was posted in this topic.



maybe. coulda been elsewhere. lemme check

 

found it.

not sure if this was on 1080p mode or 720p mode. but yeah. a score below 1600 is unplayable? that sucks.

 

Power is definitely needed, I guarantee it. The question is, will you need to have that power on your personal laptop, or does your school have a lab with desktops (which will be more powerful than most laptops) that you can use for your computing?

 

Everyones such a whiner,

Seriously, if the Envy 14 is such a disappointment maybe you need an iPad

Yes, its the buying-a-laptop-joke that never gets old.

Anyways, I joke.

Benchmark result...meh... - FFXIVCore.com - Final Fantasy XIV Fansite

The results could be broken people. $800 PC with a 120 result XD

 

delete me.

[M0D insert] Uh, OK, so by "delete me" you mean your account, right?

Totally ;p.. err wait.

 

Will you get personal licenses to run that software, or will you be running it on desktop computers parked in a lab? If you don't have a license to run it on your computer, then it doesn't matter how fast your computer is

For example, Carleton's page says:

So you won't be running MATLAB on your personal computer, unless you buy your own license. Engineering curriculums tend to be pretty much the same for the first few years: Introductory calc, linear algebra, physics, chemistry, programming, possibly some biology or a "design" course. Most of the time you won't be do anything too computationally complex- that was my experience anyway.

Not to say it's impossible that you'll run into something that wouldn't benefit from extra CPU cycles, but you won't need them for your calc class. For that, you won't need your computer at all- it should be all done on paper haha But that said, if you have your own stuff you want to do, and you know that its going to take processor power, then go for it.

My research has to do with electricity grid stuff. I occasionally need to do some data crunching in MATLAB or run an optimization program in GAMS (a mathematical language), so I feel justified in spending a bit more for processing power.

Honestly, the main reason I'm buy the Envy 14 is for the GPU (I really want to play Fallout 3) and because I suspect it will have great build quality. If I didn't care about the GPU, I would have gone with another Lenovo T series.

 

Not sure if this has been covered in past post but what is you's guys opionion on the 5650 being able to handle Diablo III at a medium or high setting? any predictions?

 

I think people had gotten caught up in the hype, and they need to reset expectations. Except in a few desktop replacements, really high-end gpu's simply don't exist in laptops. People are expecting Radeon 5850 performance on a laptop with a 4650 mobility chip.

My own personal disappointment is the 4-5 hr battery life that people are seeing. It certainly ain't bad, but it's not the 7 hrs that was advertised.

 

its a G1, you wanna know how you can tell? Check the sequential write speed. Its 70mb/s. Then G2 160gb models got a bump to 100mb/s

So while $250 for 160gb is pretty good, it is a G1 intel, not a G2. It won't have TRIM, or garbage collection and will over time get slower and slower. The only way to reset it to original performance is to format the drive and start from scratch. I know, i have two original G1 drives.

 

Wow, Envy 14 is just a joke!

So is my comment above!

 

its a 5650 not 4650.

 

Someone should try overclocking that 5650 and see what it's potential is. Being it will more than likely only be used while plugged in, battery wouldn't be a concern (puddle of aluminum may bother some, but I find it relaxing.)