HP ENVY 14 - GPU Clock and Undervoltage POLL

The GPU is designed to take more voltage and higher clocks so this particular OC should not create an additional wear.

 

Higher clocks shouldn't cause increased wear, or at least not in any noticeable manner. Voltage increases are more important, but that's not what we're doing here.

 

Is there a detailed guide to over clocking an envy, including warnings?

 

Modding the BIOS for faster HD5650 clocks

The higher GPU clock speed can be set in the vbios itself which is stored in the system bios. Unpack the Insyde BIOS with Phoenixtool, open the 60-64kb VBIOS file with RBE, change the clocks to the high speed, then repackage back with PhoenixTool.

Another possibility: could do extract the faster-clocked VBISO from an Acer 4820TG and inject it instead in the Envy 14 bios.

If testing this modification then be aware of the BIOS emergency recovery process here.

Would probably be a good idea for a pioneer to do the bios mod, test it and package it for the enjoyment of other Envy 14 owners.

 

nando, I just went to give this a try.
I downloaded the latest version (1.57) and BIOS (F13A) I try to open the BIOS with phoenixtool.exe and it tells me the BIOS is not supported.
Am I doing something wrong?

 

Not sure. I don't have an Envy 14. Might be HP's customisations of the Insyde BIOS that prevents PhoenixTool from being able to decompress the bios. Probably a good idea to ask the PhoenixTool makers to investigate.

 

OK will go and sign up on that forum.

Would be great to get my 5650 above 500

 

Overclocked mine to 545/800MHz, anything over crashes after about 20 minutes. I'm wondering which is more important, core clock or memory? Which will give me a bigger boost. Also, has anyone increased the voltage on it? Correct me if I'm wrong but it also came undervolted didn't it?

 

Please tell me if you find a way of doing it. I'd like to get mine to 550/850MHz.

 

No joy

The tool couldnt read the HP BIOS. Gutted.

 

I read many post about the 5650 being locked at 450 even though design spec is 550. Sure enough when my new Envy arrived it was indeed set at 450.

RivaTuner would not work with my Envy so....

I downloaded the AMD GPU Clock Tool and it works like a champ. Resetting the factory specs leaves the GPU very stable and temp ranges in the low 60's.

I tested it at 550 / 850 with voltage as set by HP and had no issues running Cryotasis with very smooth framerates. Cryses runs on high settings with no slowdowns or stuttering at all although the GPU temp clocked 80 degrees as the high temp and 52 as the low. The i7 at stayed in the mid 70’s range.

My Envy has the i7-740 and the AMD GPU Tool is a snap to reset the GPU to factory low idle defaults to increase battery life when not gaming.

i7 temps were 60 and 61 on both cores (Cryotasis requires 2 cores), HD was a cool 39 with a 7200 HDD and motherboard temps were low as well. GPU was a very cool 60 at full load. HP has worked out the thermal dynamics of this build well. The bottom of the case does not even get hot! WooHoo!

HardWare Moniter works fine with the Envy MB, CPU, HD, GPU for temp checking.

I think this may primarily be a problem with the switchable graphics driver for the i5. The i7 does not seem to have any issues with overclocking the GPU. I easily achieved 650/900 tonight with no crashes, however the GPU temp did push into the low 80's and to me the differance between 35 FPS vs 45 FPS in cryses on high setting was not worth the extra heat.

It could be the extra horse power from the i7 reduces some of the workload on the 5650 than does the i5. As for those reporting 15 or 19 FPS in games on low settings... could be your switchable graphics are not letting go and the 5650 is actually idle. Even at 450/850 the GPU should be cranking out better frames than that on low settings. I still have the factory ATI drivers and this E14 is giving me no problems. My most intense games run fine with a slight bump to 550/900.

I suspect a problem with the i5 compatible ATI drivers.

Envy14 / i7-740 / Radiance 1600X900 / 5650 1G / 6G DDR / 500mb HDD

 

Try this and report if successful.

 

I just tried it. Didn't work. I couldn't find the module at all, but I could be doing something wrong so someone else should try it.

 

Is this cuz the of the i5 vs i7? Or is the 5650chip different in the i5 setup vs the 5650chip in the i7 version?

 

it might be because of the i7.

or it might just be because of the newer version of the envy if sully's is a 1100 version.


I know my i5 1000 revision can't do anything with amd gpu clock tool (locks up)

 

I know that if you buy off the store, HP does force you to pick between a dual core or quad core compatible version of the 5650 gpu. It also states that only the dual core version is switchable graphics.

 

there's two motherboards for the envy14.

i7 version doesn't have switchable enabled (and has a different bios for the radeon 5650)

so, that might explain why amd gpu clock tool works with the i7 5650

 

So how much v isible performance increase can happen with OC'ing the GPU?

 

It depends on the game and how well it's running at stock.

 

Like visually, what exactly is the difference? Better colors? Smooth edges? You can see/turn-on fog?

 

just like a few fps more.

if the game's running at 40. it doesn't matter.

if the game's running at like 25. those extra 4 or so fps can be very important.

 

Ah, so might no matter then, for SC2. All one really needs is a fast(er) cpu for the emulators. Damn, getting closer to making a decision.

 

GPU clocks don't directly determine how well a game (etc.) will look visually. However, they do help you to turn up the eye candy settings like anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, shadow details, resolution, etc.

In general terms, you turn up all the eye candy as far as you want it to go, and observe the performance (frames per second). Anything over 30 FPS is acceptable for a 60Hz monitor (which are 99% of the monitors out there today). If things start looking choppy, meaning that your FPS has dropped below 30, you turn down some graphics setting and sacrifice a little bit of visual quality for better performance.

On a side note, I just read that the Sony Vaio Z uses a downclocked GT 330M, and it performs roughly on GT 325M levels. So for those of you saying that the Envy 14 is horribly lacking in the graphics department and you'd might as well spend the extra to get a Vaio Z, think again. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Sony-Vaio-VPCZ11X9E-B-Notebook.28704.0.html

 

This is very good advice. Thank you so much for your help!

 

I know this is sorta off topic from what ur discussing about it, but my friends were arguing about it... does this version, normal envy14, come with any beats headphones?

 

I've never overclocked my GPU/CPU before, but would Afterburner work for the 5650? I'm not super confident with messing in the BIOS or anything.

 

off topic = yes
the answer to your question = no it doesnt

 

Ok, so I downloaded the AMD tool and about 3 seconds after I launch it my whole system locks up.

I downloaded the version for the 5830 as multiple threads said it would work just fine.

Any other ways I can overclock the GPU without messing in the BIOS?

 

for the envy 14 you can't use amd gpu clock tool v 9.26 (the one that should work)

instead you have to use msi afterburner and modify a line in the msiafterburner.cfg file

(near the bottom) allowunofficialoverclocking = 1

or something like that. you'll know it when you see it. you change it from what it currently is (0 or 1, forget, haven't OCed my envy14, haven't needed to) to what it isn't (1 or 0)

 

Hi NYSULLY100,

Which version of AMD GPU Clock Tool did you use to overclock your i7 machine?

I have an i7 machine as well and I would love to overclock my system.

Thanks.

 

both the sites where i am looking at buying this laptop in the uk advertise the 5650 as having ddr5 memory??

Graphics card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 Graphics
- 1GB dedicated DDR5 memory
- up to 2714 MB total graphics memory
link is here : HP Envy 14-1050EA buy online | Currys

and

Graphics card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 Graphics
- 1GB dedicated DDR5 memory
- up to 2714 MB total graphics memory
link here: HP ENVY 14-1050EA review cheap prices ENVY 14-1050EA HP best buy discount online uk shop

 

It's a pain, but the spec is within the ATI spec for this GPU, so HP haven't done anything underhanded per se, so it is unlikely that they will ever fix something that isn't broken.

Saying that, Afterburner seems to run a stable 550/850, so I can't complain.

What max temp should I allow it to reach?

 

just keep it below 90

the "dude, what the hell are you doing to me" temp that will force an auto-shutdown is in the mid-upper 90s I think.

 

Cool - ran Dirt2 for a bit and it hit 71.

 

that's normal.

highest I've seen it hit on mine is low 80s with the cpu at 86/87.


of course this was starcraft 2 being starcraft 2

 

Hey i got a question. I can't seem to overclock my hp envy 14 to 550/800, whenever i do it says that the driver has stopped responding. Is there anyway to fix this or is it just that i got a bad graphics card?? Also i am getting CPU whine whenever i plug in a usb so can anybody help me with this? Thanks one more question can i play COD Black Ops on max settings with this computer?

THANK YOU !

 

Same here. 550/850 seems stable. Played Dirt 2 for about 30 minutes and the GPU only hit 68C. According to the in-game benchmark, average FPS goes up about 5 FPS at 1600x900 4XAA with 550/850 versus the factory 450/800.

 

Having a problem. Setting it up to 550/900 and it games just fine. Hours on Black Ops and WoW works good but for some reason youtube videos crash my drivers..

 

How come everybody can overclock their driver but not mine !

 

how come can do 500/850 but not 550/800? Also what should i set my fan speed when i do 500/850?

 

That's like asking why you can't swim as well as Michael Phelps - you're built differently. Not all GPUs are created equal, some are fabbed and lowly-binned on this side of the voltage spec, and they can't handle certain speeds. Same goes with the vRAM.

As for fan speed, whatever you're comfortable with, so as long as your components are keeping cool. Really shouldn't push 90C with mobile GPUs.

 

Hi,
I'm using MSI afterburner, what settings should I use on it to play TF2 smoothly?

Thanks

 

I don't know if this has been said before, but the AMD GPU clock tool on the i7 Envy reports that there are three voltages possible: .9, .95, and 1.0 volts.



You can't change it manually through the selector, but if you bump the clocks up the voltage changes accordingly.

 

I posted this in the gaming lounge but didn't get a response, was hoping I might hear some more advice here.

 

Maybe your stressing program isn't using the gpu hard enough to force it out of the throttled 100/150 clocks (used to save power). OCing the gpu will force it to stay at the higher clocks, thus getting the huge boost you are seeing. Your game might he stressing it enough to kick the GPU out of it's throttled state. What gpu stressing program do you use?

 

That makes sense, I forgot these cards have 2 different 3d speeds. I can't remember the name of the program, its just a little image of a 3D rotating earth at a decent resolution. Can be windowed, that's why I was using it. It's odd that its still throttled with MW2 though? I would be happy with no overclock and the stock driver software but it runs to slow to play games. I should add that this is with an attached 1920 x 1200 monitor on the HDMI port. I seem to have no troubles when playing on the laptops screen (1600 x 900).

 

Oh. I didn't see that MW2 jumped 100%. Did you change power settings (perhaps gamebooster?) or change to battery?

 

No I haven't changed any power settings. I normally do a cold boot with the monitor attached, as it boots with the ATI driver automatically. I have spent a lot of time with this before coming here. It doesn't matter if I change over (GPU's) with it powered up either. The only time I can get a performance increase is if I overclock the GPU by 1 or more mhz.

 

FWIW, using MSI Afterburner 1.6.0 beta5 I was able to overclock my GPU to 550/800 without any problem. I cannot go above 550MHz without instability. However, at 550MHz, the system runs 100% stable with very reasonable temperatures. I might be able to go faster if I up the voltage, but since the GPU is integrated to the motherboard, I'm not willing to risk shortening the life with higher voltage.

YMMV

 

just got a 570/820 OC on my envy 14 temps are manageable

so what happens if i up the voltage to 1.00?? anyone sucessfully done this???

if i up the voltage in TRIXX cant i up the core clock to the 600's??