*HP ENVY 17 & 17 3D (1XXX series) Owners Lounge*

I want to measure the DVD drive, may upgrade to a blu ray drive if its standard size, like the M15X (can be had for under $100 nowadays)

 

I think Johnobots has probably mix and matched Envy components the most. He might as well have built his Envy 15 himself, lolz.

 

To use eyefinity, you have to 'group' them in the catalyst control centre, unless you group them, they will just be duplicate monitors. When they are grouped, they are treated as one big monitor and then you can set your games to use the huge res. And you're right, about the monitors.

 

Yep, I'm very familiar with the Envy 15 innards. I've fully dissassembled and reassembled several times. Did a speaker bar replacement, LCD Panel replacement, LCD backplate replacement, CPU swap, memory swap, dual micro-sata ssd/hdd swap, GPU thermal paste upgrades...

I really, really love my Envy 15 Limited Edition, never spent so much time upgrading and also meticulously cleaning (and even waxing) a computer. The 17 will really, really have to blow me away for me to be willing to sell it. And i guess it will be nice not having to buff away fingerprints after using it everytime (feel like Golem petting 'my precious' sometimes).

Word of advice to fellow HP Envy thrillseekers: Keep all your original parts so if you have problems later, you can reinstall them and still be able to make use of your HP Warranty. Hard drives and memory don't apply of course. I will be selling my 2x320GB drives, or put one in my PS3 or something. Who knows.

 

Curious whether any of the Envy 17s that are shipping have the SSD in their config. That may be the one thing that is common with the rest of us who ordered on Day 1 but whose orders have not shipped.

 

I think that might be it

 

@jaxxy

You say we need to group menitors but we cant use the laptop's, but can we make the laptop's screen part of that group?

 

NO.
The only display configurations that include the laptop screen is:
1. laptop by itself.
2. laptop with one monitor.

That's it I'm afraid.

 

any update jaxxy on the overall performance on the laptop after the RAM swap?

 

Just recieved FedEx delivery date of 6-4 am. I ordered on5-19 at 11:00am EST.
My config.is with SSD

660GB 7200RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (SSD 160GB + 500GB 7200RPM)

 

^I Envy you T_T

I hope the rest of us 5/19ers get shipping processed today w/o delays. Also hoping it won't take the whole seven days to ship...

 

My i5 Envy 17 with BluRay, extra 9-cell, and combo SSD 160 + 500 hd shows it will arrive to me on Friday via standard shipping to DC area. I ordered around 10am EST on 5/19...

Shipment information sent to FedEx
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Shipment Dates
Anticipated ship date Jun 1, 2010
Estimated delivery Jun 4, 2010 by 4:30 PM

Hope this helps you guys read your tea leaves for your delivery .
Jason

 

I used free shipping & I will pick up at FedEx branch on Friday a 10 min. ride.

 

Sure hope this doesn't turn out like the DC2 debacle on the 8740w.

 

So much for my theory that the SSD is the cause of the delay for the rest of us. That is my config except I had an i7.

 

Hmm....on many laptops that have both HDMI and VGA ports, you can connect two external monitors and display on them(not using EyeInfinity). However, the laptop display is not enabled. Can you confirm if this is not possible with the ENVY 17?

 

Really?
I ordered at 6am EST on 5/19, the exact same thing but without the extra 9-cell, and with 2 day FedEx... and I'm still in production. Are you serious, HP? I'm PCSing in about 2 weeks, so this laptop needs to arrive.

 

We ordered within minutes of each other early a.m. on the 19th, very similar configs. I'm now wondering if our delay has to do with the 4GB memory chip. Can't think of anything else.

 

I ordered with 6GB = 1 4GB & 1 2GB. Maybe you are the lucky ones as they found something to stop production.

 

I can't see the pattern either. Maybe your production line was just faster?

 

Hmmm...maybe HP just doesn't like early birds. As long as mine goes out within the next few days, I won't complain.

 

A rep named Lillian said my computer was finished and should send a tracking # today or tomorrow.

 

Does anybody here have an idea how to make this thing come to canada?
Cause i know nobody that lives in the US. That is One of the onpy thing holding me back from buying it (the 2nd is the pack of ssd but i will buy it apart)

 

Well my memory was an hour off. When I looked up my email trail, I see the Bing cashback email came in at 9:20am 5/19. I think that one was only 5-10 minutes after the actual order. BTY, I also got the 1080p (of course) and the single 4GB chip option. However, I see my FedEx track still does not show an actual departure, so I doubt it will make it here by Friday. Who knows, maybe HP just generated a FedEx label ahead of time just to make it look like they made the June 1st delivery estimate. I'll update next when I see an actual shipment track started.

 

It takes 24 hours for the information to show up in FedEx's system.

 

The tracking information for mine states a delivery date of Jun 3, 2010 by 4:30 PM via standard shipping within the Fedex system. Headed to Boulder, Colorado.

HP Envy 17
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-540M Dual Core processor (2.53GHz, 3MB L2 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.06GHz
• 4GB DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm)
• 320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5850 Graphics
• 17.3" diagonal Full HD HP Ultra BrightView Infinity LED Display (1920x1080)
• SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
• HP TrueVision HD Webcam
• Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth
• Full-size island-style backlit keyboard
• 50% OFF! One 6 Cell (standard) and One 9 Cell (over-sized) Lithium Ion Battery
• No Productivity Software
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

Hoping my Mushkin Enhanced Callisto SSD and the other 4GB memory module arrive by Thursday as well...

 

Wow - how did you learn that? I contacted CS and they told me to "check back in 24-48 Hrs" Not very helpful when HP named the date.

 

Tried HP CS again -- got the same response.... "check back in 24 hr"

Oh well -- guess it's not shipping today.

 

I just got off the phone with a rep, and she said there was no reported delay for my order. She told me that if I don't get a change in my shipping status and get a tracking number my midnight, I'll need to call again tomorrow. She hinted that a delay in the phase could get my shipping upgraded. I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one, but it'd be nice if it were true.

Btw, my customer service rep (S***h) sounded so high- chuckling and trying to flirt. I doubt she was on something as she was very thorough on checking my status, but it was no doubt the most unexpected and funniest cs talk I ever had

 

They're actually sending me a brand new unit, not just ram swap, I'm expecting it tomorrow by which time it sounds like some of you guys will have received yours!

 

OK - I have my HP 17-1002TX

I was playing BF BC2 for a couple of hours last night - I have to say that the front left gets way too hot for comfort. I swear my hand was near to burning.

Anyone else suffering the same issues?

 

This is what happens when I try to extend my display to my second monitor, it needs to turn one off first:

 

The left edge does get hot, but I don't place my hand there, my wrist just rests next to the trackpad. Were you using it in your lap? I'd imagine it would get much hotter in your lap due to some vent getting blocked.

 

So if I found an interesting post on another forum that is related to getting three monitors with eyefinity (not specifically for our setup).

Drool: AMD's EyeFinity, 6 Monitors, and 24 million pixels

Search for the word "extend" and read daydream and glynor's posts. Watching the link that glynor posted is neat as well.

From what they're saying, using a monitor that supports displayport is crucial to getting 3 monitors to work. How that might affect what I want (two external monitors while keeping the laptop display) I don't know, but It might be possible. If anyone has one displayport monitor (passive adapters will not work apparently) and one other monitor (VGA or HDMI) please let me know if you can use both externals and the laptop display at the same time. I'm not holding out for success but I still have a glimmer of hope.

Thoughts? Frustrations from displayportlessness??

edit: Thanks for the screenshots jaxxy!

 

I was playing with mi wrist just tothe left of the trackpad - using WSAD for the gameplay. The laptop was on my desk & I use the 9-cell battery so the airflow was ok. I may just have a gpu that runs a bit hotter than normal. was getting 85c mid-game.

I looked at the maintinance guide & couldn't see any specific chip that looked like it was the source of the heat - I wonder if the metal case is acting like a heatsink from the gpu / cpu

 

I ordered my Envy 17 on May 27 w/no ssd, with i7-820qm, one stick of 4gb, 1080p, blu ray, twin 500gb hard drives and a standard battery. I will let ya'll (i am from texas) know when my status changes from;

Order in production
(Estimated to ship on June 8, 2010)

Maybe this will help some of you wondering about production delays due to particular configurations or help later envy purchasers set a time frame for their builds.

Thanks, can't wait and enjoy yours!

 

Same config as Itarm, except 1 500GB HD and no blueray. Mine is expected to ship this Friday and I ordered May 24th.

 

Can anyone help me understand what my ram upgrade choices are? I ordered 1 dimm of 4GB with mine, and I would like to upgrade it to 6 or 8GB. I saw on newegg that I can get a 2GB stick for a little over $50 and a 4GB stick for less than $200. I would prefer to just upgrade to 6GB but I thought that would conflict with this info from the HP site:

Code:

DISCLAIMER: Dual Channel is supported only when the system is configured with DDR3 symmetric memory (e. g., 2x1024MB).

Does this mean that putting in an additional 2GB stick would still only give me 4GB to work with as opposed to 6?

 

Nope... you'll get 6gb, no problem. Dual channel occurs when you have two of a same size memory modules.. which gives SLIGHT performance gains in memory or something obscure. Not an issue to be without it

 

Just ran 3dmark06 and got:

11449 3Dmarks,
4485 SM 2.0 score
5513 SM 3.0 score
3104 CPU score

I just ran the default free tests, didn't adjust anything. How does this compare?

 

Anyone ordered an SSD and got theirs? Any problems with your 4k read speed?

 

I believe you may need to turn off the display of the laptop first in order to display to dual external monitor setup.There is an internal switch which turns off the laptop display when the lid is closed according to the manual.

 

That is almost spot on for what I got. will edit this & post when I rerun it.

 

I like the idea, but unfortunately it didn't work, I get the same error when I have disabled the laptop, enabled the 2 monitors and then try to extend to the laptop.

 

Oh yeah - this is a note of advice to anyone reimaging their 17-1002TX laptop with the non HP image.

Make sure you make a copy of the c:\swsetup folder before you rebuild. I tried it without doing that & found HP have yet to upload any drivers for this laptop.

ALSO - I had issues getting the ATI video driver from the internet to detect the card. I got around that by installing the one that is in the c:\swsetup folder - that seems to detect & install the right driver. You can then upgrade to the latest ATI driver from the web & it will actually work.

 

Great tip thanks! I'm about to do a system recovery to factory state on this laptop as my replacement is arriving tomorrow.

 

arriving june 4th by 430pm

total out the door price $1774.60

HP ENVY 17 customizable Notebook PC
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHz
• 4GB DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm)
• 320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5850 Graphics
• 17.3" diagonal Full HD HP Ultra BrightView Infinity LED Display (1920x1080)
• Blu-ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
• HP TrueVision HD Webcam
• Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth
• Full-size island-style backlit keyboard
• 50% OFF! One 6 Cell (standard) and One 9 Cell (over-sized) Lithium Ion Battery
• 50% OFF! HP Pavilion additional 120W AC Adapter
• No Productivity Software
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
Estimated build date: June 1, 2010

 

11000 in 3DMark 06? That's not overclocked or anything? Strips the best overclocked 5830 gen 2 envy 15's by 1500 odd points... beats most by 2000-2500.

That's quite nice... how is heat on this thing?

 

Thanks for trying the different combos out Jaxxy. I would really be surprised if this laptop could not output to two external monitors, with the laptop display turned off.

I mean it's great that it can display to 3 external monitors using the ATI infinity drivers, but I am keeping my fingers crossed that someone can find a way to get the dual external monitor set up to work.

Not a deal breaker, but would be nice to use my current dual external monitor setup that I have right now with my dell laptop without the need to use the ATI infinity stretch display of the ENVY 17 as I want my two external displays to have independent resolutions.

Guess I will have muck around with my ENVY when it arrives.

 

Hang on, I have been trying to get 2 external monitors PLUS the laptop display at the same time.

It CAN do 2 external monitors with the laptop display off, they can be duplicates or extended with a different resolution on each.

Sorry for the confusion.