*HP ENVY 17 & 17 3D (3XXX series) Owners Lounge*

i got hp envy 17 3d 3090nr
i have an 3d film it is an hsbs (half side by side) x264 video file.
when i open movie twin double screen video appeas in same video.

when i open power dvd i can change powerdvd settings video - tru theather display settings - compre mode.
but when i open an video file this compare display mode disabled. how can open video files in tru theather compare display mode ?

 

Well, I mean ya, SSD RAID on two 6GB/s ports would be the only way to do it. If you were going to do SSD RAID on a shared 6GB/s port, that's pointless.

TRIM for RAID is in the works and will eventually be commonplace, but atm, native trim doesn't apply.

 

The 33% is back im gonna get the envy 17 (non 3D) just have a few questions.

1. Does the second drive come ready for plug n play. I recently ordered a dv7 and there was no connectors unless u order it with dual drives. Reason being i want to change drive 1 out for a SSD drive.

2. has anyone had any issues getting a 300mbps connection on 5ghz wifi?

3. Is it worth getting 16gb of ram or should i just upgrade it myself through ebay?

4. has anyone changed out the optical drive for a bluray burner?

I was also planning on 4 year warranty 399 but I think worth it.

here are my specs:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3720QM Processor (2.6 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
Radeon(TM) HD 7850M Graphics 1GB GDDR5 Memory [HDMI, DP]
16GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
2TB (2x1TB 5400rpm Hard Drives)
6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - Up to 5.25 hours of battery life +++
17.3-inch diagonal Radiance Full HD Infinity LED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
720p HD video streaming webcam supports Skype
Intel 802.11a/b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R) with Wireless Display Support
Full-size Radiance backlit keyboard with numeric keypad

 

1) You ordered 2 HDD's in your unit
2) What torrent client are you using?
3) Buy your own ram, over 8GB it clocks down to 1333
4) HP parts store, if available

 

You're funny!
What move did you DL?

 

talked to hp support about my envy 17 3d and its nonswitchable graphics and no widi that we pay an extra 10 dollars for(i know big deal), and they recommended i return it and get a regular envy 17... so that what im doing, for 80 dollars more than my 3d similar setup, im getting the intel 80gb ssd also.. can always get a 3d monitor for the 3d goodness though


Envy17
• Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
• Radeon(TM) HD 7850M Graphics 1GB GDDR5 Memory [HDMI, DP]
• 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 80GB Solid State Drive + 750GB 7200rpm Hybrid Hard Drive
• Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
• FREE 2-year Norton Internet Security subscription (a $99 value). Pre-installed.
• 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - Up to 5.25 hours of battery life +++
• 17.3-inch diagonal Radiance Full HD Infinity LED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
• Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
• 720p HD video streaming webcam supports Skype
• Intel 802.11a/b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R) with Wireless Display Support
• Full-size Radiance backlit keyboard with numeric keypad
• Adobe(R) Photoshop(R) Elements 10 & Adobe Premiere(R) Elements 10
• 2 year limited warranty included
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

 

1, i havn't ordered yet that's why i'm asking would rather pay less and not get 2nd drive if sata connection for drive 2 is there.

2. I dont download torrents at all.

3. thnx for info still clocked at 1333 16gb has to be a better benefit then 8gb correct? are u saying buy on my own 16 but 1333

4. trying to find out if anyone has upgraded there drive?

 

Don't buy your RAM from HP, just get the 6gb it comes with, REALLY don't buy your RAM off Ebay as it will most likely be counterfit, do buy your RAM at NewEgg or Amazon or locally with someone who price matches. You can get Corsair Vengeance 16gb kit for $120 shipped. As for it stepping down this has not been confirmed yet on the refresh and HP tech support said it did not down clock (donno if I believe them though and no one here on NBR to my knowledge has posted their results using 16gb of Vengeance), the Corsair automatically overclocks and even if it does down clock to 1333, by buying the 1600, the timings will change for the better on the Corsair. When I have time I will verify just what the Vengeance 16gb kit does do in this machine.

 

great info thnx!!

now just need to know if hard drive bay 2 comes ready for plug nplay 2nd hard drive?

 

Actually, it does list any RAM over 8GB being downclocked to 1333 from 1600. It says as much in the Maintenance and Service Manual:

Manuals for HP ENVY 17t-3200 CTO Notebook PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

Manual direct download:

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03317166.pdf

Page 2 of the manual:

That's from the manual of course, though someone with an Envy 17 and more than 8GB of RAM would be a better resource, of course.

 

You are absolutely correct about the manuals, however I read in another manual, place, shoot I can't remember as these forums are so long and I've read so much, that it did not step down. I hope I was not misleading as I tried to say the user tested verdict was not out. I personnaly think it will step down as most Motherboards due. I called HP and got to what I assumed was a level two tech support person who said differently, that it did not step down. I personally am not stating it does or doesn't though but I will check sometime next week when I get time. All the other info holds true however about Ebay ram, Vengeance being the only self overclocking Ram in this category, and the timmings getting better if it does in fact step down.

 

You will need a 2nd HD mounting kit for the empty bay. It comes with a longer cable than the one in the 1st drive bay. If you download the manual it shows you the drive bays and the mounting kits.

The part # through HP Parts is 603772-001 and runs over $60
Here is a link to one considerably less $28 Hard Drive Caddy & Cable for HP Envy 17 -3000 series (3xxx) [HP-ENVY-17-3000] - $27.95 : NewmodeUS, Hard Drive Caddys for Notebooks

I have never ordered from here so I can't vouch for them. The shipping to my area is $7.25. You might give them a call and verify.

 

Order the notebook with the cheapest RAM configuration, go your best PC service/supply shop in your city with your new notebook, tell them you want 16@1600, if it works buy it, if not do the 8@1600. Customer service from local shops is good sometimes, they get a sale, and it will always be less than purchasing from HP.

WHY would he need that if this configuration include 2x 1TB HDD's?
He WILL have 2x HDD brackets in the notebook...................

 

1) You will need the HDD Bracket in the picture IF you only order with 1 HDD. You could go with the mSATA + 7200RPM HDD as I did, you will have the BAY 2 SATA cable taped to the bay bottom, it was there for me.....?!?!?! for you. The bracket I received from my CSR was free, it did not include the cable.

• Bay 0 = mSATA SSD III
• Bay 1 = HDD/SSD SATA III
• Bay 2 = HDD/SSD SATA II

2) Noooo?, I do.....
3) Get your own RAM, its cheaper than HP's prices. Don't believe the phone support @ HP, they read a script, there answers are text book. 8+ clocks down to 1333. I do my own video editing, I have 8@1600, didn't go over 6 and its all 720p.
4) Can't help you with that, USB SATA III with external is what I would use if I were you, lots of plug and play stuff on the market.

GEESH, what a long set of post all debating what I OP'd
Someone should +1 me for the OP,,,,,,
Guys,,,,
You never listen to a girl,,,,
Do you........(?)

Sarcasm at its finest,,,,+1 for the post..........



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So they just send it to u for free if u ask them.. and people are buying it for $ 35..

 

My CSR that I'm dealing with for my RTM is a women.
Women network,,,,,you guys, fight it out.
Unless you have a virginia, don't expect the same treatment as I get.,,,but that's no guarantee in this world, discrimination come in all forms.




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Nyah I wouldnt hav such Luck.. ..

 

Yes, life without a Virginia is rough. We have to buy our own drinks, too. XD

 

great info I just want to be clear the 2nd drive is ready but I will need a bracket and cable which will I assume easily plug in? As far as the ram being cheaper i agree , but was unsure what to buy will any ddr3 1600/1333 ram work?

 

[/QUOTE]WHY would he need that if this configuration include 2x 1TB HDD's?
He WILL have 2x HDD brackets in the notebook...................[/QUOTE]

I want to get the price as low as i can if I can go with 1 drive and add the second later(cheaper) I would like to do that. same with the ram.

 

Can someone help me with the Displayport to DVI adapter and jumping mouse cursor...

I want to use my Acer 24" 1080p LCD monitor with my 17t-3000 but not sure which adapter to buy. Read some articles about "active" vs "passive" adapters and still no clue what that means as I'm new to this "Displayport" feature.

I've found the following compatible adapters:
1. Accell B087B-005B UltraAV DisplayPort to DVI-D Single-Link "Active" Adapter - Amazon ~$30
2. HP DisplayPort to DVI-D Adapter 481409-001 ~$10

I do notice that the 2 Displayports both have2 "+" next to a "D" symbol so it's the Displayport (dual-mode, whatever that means).

Are there any differences between the adapter types?

The glare is starting to make my eyes sore and I'm blinking more. Waiting for my anti-glare screen protector to arrive

Lastly, anyone else having issues with the mouse cursor jumping around at times?? It's happening less as I'm getting accustomed to using the keyboard and watching how not to brush my palms over the trackpad and tweaked the mouse sensitivity but it's still happening. I'm using a wireless mouse but the cursor still jumps around.

Any suggestions to reduce the cursor jumpiness?

Thanks!

 

Cable is already there /..U will just need the hard drive caddy or if u plan to use an SSD then u may even u a double sided tape..

 

When I inqured about that caddy to HP Parts....they were out of the caddy and refered me to an outside HP Parts distrib. When I spoke with them they made it sound like I needed the whole kit. Can anyone else verify that the cable is already there? I hate to order the kit and not need it. I just ordered a 17 Envy 3200 yesterday and won't receive it for a while and wanted to have the kit ordered and already here by the time it arrives.

I am also interested in the displayports (adapters) as a previous poster. I run 4 monitors on my PC. That is one of the "big" reasons that I went for the Envy with the 2 displayports. I would probably get another hdmi hookup along with a DVI When my now computer bites the dust...I can easily switch over to the Envy.

 

HI Patricia, I looked back at his original post and it was stated that he was going to install the 2nd hard drive.....or that's what it looks like to me.

 

this is the main thing im hung up on as its a $200 increase to get dual drives installed if wire is there rather supply my own.

 

The upgrade kit NewModeUS supplies seems to include all of the parts, from the description and the image. It shows the cable, caddy and screws. It's under $40 shipped at the moment. The same kit from HP is about $65 before shipping costs, if any.

I was thinking the same way as you and decided to scale back to a single drive and buy the caddy kit separately for my Envy 17.

 

So now we are down to the unknown fact if the cable is there and we just need the caddy. Someone previously stated that the cable was included. Can anyone else verify that? Does anyone have an Envy without the 2nd hard drive that they can open the slot and look?

 

Video Editing question - I can't decided between a Pavilion or an Envy. I will be using the laptop for video production. So which would be better the Envy with the AMD 7850 with 1GB or the Pavilion with the Nvidia 650 with 2 GB?

 

The Envy 17-3200 comes with the 2nd Cable, but not the cradle. The Newmodeus kit contains the cradle, screws, and cable (which you don't need)

 

All Envy 17-3xxx and 3D come with the Bay 2 cable, that's why HP only supply's the HDD/SSD BRACKET.





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I have searched for just the stand alone caddy and cannot come up with it. Newmodeus kit still looks like the best bang for the buck even tho it has the xtra parts. If anyone can come up with something else.......

 

Just ordered my envy 17 non 3D, says ship date/build July 25th. 33% off was to much to pass up, stuck with 6gb and plan on the upgrading later after yesterdays post.

Specs:
i7-3610qm
6gb 1600 (plan to upgrade to 16gb)
1tb 5400 (plan adding another hhd or ssd)
Blu-ray/SuperMulti
Widi

Not a bad deal for under $1200.

 

Call 1-800-HPINVENT ask for part number 668020-001
Any questions as to the packaging numbers,,,,LOOK at the picture in my post.

 

orderd mine too! what is a decent ram to buy and also is it hard to get into the envy to do changes? Ive never seen an envy except the pictures online.

HP ENVY 17t-3200 Notebook PC
here are my specs any missing are whatever they offered
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3720QM Processor (2.6 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
6GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
750GB 7200rpm Hybrid Hard Drive
Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
Intel 802.11a/b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R) with Wireless Display Support

 

how much was it for just the caddy

 

HDD BRACKET was FREE, if you read my post, it a gen (?) HP part.
I like to keep the parts OEM while my things are under warranty, especially my vehicle.

 

Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8G) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model CMSX16GX3M2A1600C10
Is this the memory you were talking about?

Any results?

 

Perhaps it helps: I bought two of these: PureLink DC0012-03 - basic+ Serie. Zertifiziertes: Amazon.de: Elektronik
Do you need audio? I don't know if audio works with them as my monitors don't have speakers.

@Cursor-jumpiness: You know that even the buttons are "cursor-sensitive"? The whole touchpad including the lower section can move the cursor.

 

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Thanks for the info.

I could buy an HDMI cable to use the monitor instead of using DVI (as there's no speakers in the monitor).

Didn't know the Button keys were also (that) sensitive; thought it was just the main touchpad itself.

 

CAS Latency (CL)

A memory with CL = 9 will provide a 22.2% improvement on memory latency over a memory with CL = 10, considering that both are running at the same clock rate.


Timings

The memory timings are given through a series of numbers; for instance, 10-10-10-27, or 9-9-9-24. These numbers indicate the amount of clock cycles that it takes the memory to perform a certain operation.
The smaller the number, the faster the memory.


The operations that these numbers indicate are the following: CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-CMD. To understand them, bear in mind that the memory is internally organized as a matrix, where the data are stored at the intersection of the lines and columns.

• CL: CAS Latency. The time it takes between a command having been sent to the memory and when it begins to reply to it. It is the time it takes between the processor asking for some data from the memory and then returning it.
• tRCD: RAS to CAS Delay. The time it takes between the activation of the line (RAS) and the column (CAS) where the data are stored in the matrix.
• tRP: RAS Precharge. The time it takes between disabling the access to a line of data and the beginning of the access to another line of data.
• tRAS: Active to Precharge Delay. How long the memory has to wait until the next access to the memory can be initiated.
• CMD: Command Rate. The time it takes between the memory chip having been activated and when the first command may be sent to the memory. Sometimes this value is not announced. It usually is T1 (1 clock cycle) or T2 (2 clock cycles).

I'll stay with the 2x 4GB.
With the faster clock rate the speed improvement will be greater than 22.2%, possibly add another 5% to the total.
I will ask my SO to recalculate the % when he has time.

 

I was wondering about maxing out the memory. Would there be a great advantage of going pass 8gb even if it downgrades to 1333? Meaning 8gb @ 1600 w/9-9-9-24 being better/equal or worse then 16gb 1333 w/9-9-9-24. The Corsair Vengeance that I was asking about was pointed out earlier and someone stated that if the mobo does downgrade 1600 to 1333 that it may speed up the latencys (that's what I was thinking they meant, I could be misunderstanding).

 

I have ordered a Envy 17 3200cto ($250 off plus 33% off) too. The order was placed on Thursday the 12th. I am in the process of doing research for a few things as my posts reveal in the forum the last couple of days.

AU4U posted a picuture of the bracket that would fit my needs - with flashing lights around the picture and big red arrows Showing the part # and everything you would ever want to know about it ...as listed on the package. I went to the parts page with the part # to pull up the part to find the price / shipping and it never would come up so I went for the live chat. She asked for the model/serial and part number listed on the bottom of my laptop (which I do not have). I explained it was on order not here yet. She told me that she could not pull up the part # of the item I was looking for unless I had that info. I explained to her that I had given her the part # 668020-001 She said she could not pull it up without the info on the bottom of my (ordered) laptop. I let it drop.

Plan #2 I called 1-800-HPINVENT which AU4U advised. I spoke with Diana and explained to her that I had a part # and at this point just wanted to know the price/shipping of the part. Once again she asked for the info on the bottom of the laptop. I explained to her that I did not have it so she asked for my Order #. She proceeded to tell me that she could not give me the info with out the serial # from the bottom.

Ok ....part 2 of the call. Au4u , Souravsunny, and Jerohm (in this forum) all stated that the 2nd hd cable was included in the laptop from the git-go and all I needed was the caddy. So since I had her on the phone I decided to verify. She asked me to hold and was gone for around a minute....came back. Told me that the cable was ABSOLUTELY NOT included.
So there ya go ...I have an old HP laptop that was under the HP Total Care package and found their tech support inconsistant and flaky. In fact I vowed that I would NEVER buy another HP product. Well.....never say never. I saw the specs on the Envy and couldn't resist. I hope i am not in for another ride

One last thing. I was reading the posts over on the HP consumer forums and it seemed like a running thread over there was the heat that the Envy 17 was putting off. A couple of people were even complaining of it shutting down due to the heat. One woman was complaining of her left wrist profusely sweating after just a few minutes of use. Seemed like most responses pointed to the graphic controller/card (?)
Does anyone over here have that same complaint? I have only been reading this forum for the last 3 days or so....I have skimmed through the posts but didn't seem to have that issue sticking out like a sore thumb over here.

 

The Bios not the mobo, clocks 8+ to 16 down to 1333 @ 10-10-10-27

 

GPU / CPU are UNDER the right side of the KB.
The BATTERY is under the the left palm rest., HDD/SSD bays under your right palm rest.

This is the only logical setup for gaming, your mouse is in your right hand away from the GPU/CPU, and the heat from any HDD's in the same side, keeping your left hand cool when using the WSAD.

You really should read this thread from the start, there are lots of posts with pics of the guts.

POST LINKS TO THE ARTICLES

 

Would it be worth wild to get 16gb 1333 9-9-9-24? (Over 8gb 1600 9-9-9-24)

Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, Memory, Laptop Memory, 16GB (2 x 8G), 9

Secondly, if yes what would best sticks for these systems? (Doesn't have to be from the above link, just using it as an example)

Thanks for explaining that its the BIOS and not the mobo. Does that mean that a future update to the BIOS could stop the downgrade?

 

16@9-9-9-24 would not waist any resources.
16GB is overkill for me, I do my own video editing @ 720p 60~120 sec, my files have never gone over 1 GB.
If you were a lab tek and viewing MRI/CAT scans, 64Bit depth with 200X zoom, or doing large CAD/Video animations, ya, 16GB would be usefull.
I'd never use 16.
Don't count on HP doing much with the Bios, the ELITEBOOK WORK STATIONS were designed for that Bios upgrade, and mind you, I config'd a unit,,,,,$5400.00,,,,,Santa's not bringing me that for Christmas.

Whatever you choose, run MEMTEST86+ on them:
http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

How to run Memtest86 from USB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1MsS86oBBs


How to test RAM and HDD
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebo...ow-to-test-RAM-and-HDD-Hard-Drive/td-p/301638

Don't forget the Intel diagnostics, monitoring and update tools:
Utility Tools

If you receive ANY errors, pull 1 of the sticks, run the test over night, swap, run a 2nd test over night.
RAM problems cause all sorts of intermittent and hard to locate problems.

I ordered another set as stand by's in case the price's jump, Corsair's site just doubled the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233242
My preference.

FYI,,,,Keep your old RAM until your warranty period is over, IF you have to send your notebook in for servicing, and they swap mobo's, like what happened to my HP HDX 18-1374CA, you wont get your RAM back. So if you do send it in,,,,return everything back to factory.

 

Actually, CPU & GPU are both located in the middle of the laptop (CPU south of RAM, GPU between CPU & DVD drive). No heat from here for the left hand.
Upper left side is mostly covered by the DVD drive. Lower left side is covered by the battery which would cause the heat, I think. But I personally never felt any heat there. Maybe a problem due to "overcharging"?

 

Seems to be a case for a mathematician...how did you calculate this?

 

(10-9)/9 x 100 x 2 = 22.22 %

the 2 is for the dual channel ..normally a 1600 mhz would read 800..so dual channel 800 makes it 1600..Hence the maths right AU4U.. ??