*HP ENVY 17 & 17 3D (3XXX series) Owners Lounge*

WHAT DOES THE REFRESHED ENVY 17 CLOCK & TIME AT WITH 16GB OF CORSAIR VENGANCE:

Ok everyone, I ordered my machine with the stock 6GB or RAM as I knew I was going to upgrade to 16GB. For most people 16GB is more than the average person will ever utililze, but I will will utilize it, why and how isn't important for this thread.

Here are the results, speeds and timings for the 6GB that came stock in the machine:





Here are the results, speeds and timings for the 16GB Corsair Vengeance installed in the machine:




Conclusion: I am very happy, it DOES NOT step down in speed. And even better, the timings are better than the stock RAM:

6GB Timings 11-11-11-28
16GB Timings 10-10-10-27

Happy Indeed

 

Seems to be right in first thought. But the "dual channel" delay should not be calculated within the CAS, should it?
This would make CAS Latency less comparable.

 

You are correct, there in the MIDDLE of the notebook,,,both of them......

My SO calculated it for me.

LOL....your defiantly better than me at that.

Its reporting whats on the firmware, not what the notebook will actually utilize. :laugh:
What you have shown us is not a Benchmark.:tongue:
You can confirm this with a Tek from HP Houston TX @ Global Quality Control,,,,,if you wish.
Just don't expect anything in writing, they will not commit to HP's policy's or internal issues.

 

Did that. I don't have the time to post the pics, do screen shots, et. Take it for what it's worth, then move on to the next post.

 

LoL...u already opened it up.. ??

 

Seems like your SO copied the sentence 1:1 from here: Understanding RAM Timings | Hardware Secrets
But he / she exchanged the two numbers and now it's out of context and wrong...I would say. Your SO should have just quoted the site.

I know, I opened up the Envy myself some time ago

@mraufait: This is the same behavior some other reviews made. Still the 16GB are running with full speed. If I ever need 16GB....

 

Costco.com has a sale currently on the 2 yr HP Care Pack for those interested:

Costco - HP Care Pack Services 2-year Accidental Damage Protection & LoJack for New HP Laptops

$79.99 After $40 OFF
Shipping & Handling included *
$40 discount is reflected in the price.
Valid for orders placed June 14, 2012 through August 05, 2012.

 

How much was this part AU4U?

And from what I've read in the last 3 pages you're saying that regardless of whether you order a 2nd hard drive or not the Envy 17 will have the 2nd cable in their correct? All we need is the caddy & bracket?

For that we have 2 options:

1) Newmodeus Kid --> NOT an HP Original Part

or

2) HP Part Number 668020-001 --> HP Original Part

Am I understanding you correctly?

 

Thank you very much, MrAufait! Excellent Info!

 

She got it freeeeeee!

She called HP and got a nice agent who sent it, no charge. Bracket only, as the cable's already there.

 

Hope the screws came with it as well besides just the bracket.

 

I have been sitting here FOR DAYS reading this section and another section of this forum. I have seen this question asked.....but never really seen it answered. If it was I was in a dazed state from hours of reading.

I bought the Envy 17 3200 (non 3d) specifically so that I could run 3 external monitors and hopefully with the laptop screen to have 4. The hdmi output would work just fine with either of my (2) 27" monitors. I would like to buy 2 adapters for the displayports. One to a DVI and the other to another HDMI.

There seems to be a discussion on the internet as to passive or active. It seems active is the one everyone is recommending. However I read a big long article about running more than 3 monitors and Eyefinity kept coming up(but I don't think this graphics card has anything to do with that) needing active and all the technical reasons why you need active. And then at the end of the article in the comments part were some that said....then why are people getting passive to work just fine? (which threw a wrench in the whole concept)

So I am reaching out to ANYONE who has been successful in running a 4 monitor setup. What type of adapters are you using? After spending tons on this laptop I cannot afford to waste money on non-compatible adapters.

So please if anyone can kindly answer that question....it would be greatly appreciated.

 

You just posted 4 screen snips and 4 pictures, I have all the faith in you that you can submit the benchmarks, you did them already as you stated.

OK, what are the running benchmarks?

Have you read the post on the possible fix for the 17 3d Envy?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...hd-4000-switching-widi-issue.html#post8712945

 

Well that appears to be wrong. One person posted that the displayports were tied to the Intel Graphics. Guess not

 

Oooooohhhhh, there are some jokes to be made there!

 

Hey Dru,

I don't have all the answers for you, but I will tell you what I know, and hopefully it will help, or maybe help you figure out what further questions to ask. Unfortunately, I think you may not know all your answers until you actually attempt it yourself.

For one, the 7850M does support Eyefinity. But read carefully; if Enduro is enabled, it will not work, for obvious reasons. Here's the catch; as I understand, Enduro is enabled or disabled by the notebook manufacturer; ie, if they turn it on, then you can't turn it off. I have the non-3D version, and I would like to have the option to disable Enduro; I searched and searched, but never found out how; I only found many others with the same, unanswered question.

However, many owners of the 3D version have reported that the laptop never uses the Intel HD graphics. That could mean that Enduro has not been set up, or it could mean that Enduro has been setup, but it is not functioning correctly. I can't answer that question, as I don't have a 3D version to examine.

If Enduro simply hasn't been setup, then it may work in your favor, despite the fact that most wish it did work, in order to save battery.

Now, assuming that Eyefinity is, in fact, enabled, let's talk about active -vs- passive adapters...

The info is all over the place, so I foresee some trial and error as inevitable.

I looked at this guide written by AMD, and they say it requires active adapters to use a non-DP monitor on a DP plug. Then again, that was written in 2009, back when Eyefinity only supported three monitors at once, and a lot has changed since then.

Here's what we can say, regardless: the signal being output through any DP plug, is a DP signal. That means conversion is necessary if you want to use a non-DP monitor on a DP plug. The reason that active adapters will always work, is because the conversion is taking place externally - the GPU is able to output a regular DP signal, and it is "unaware" that you have manipulated the signal with an external device. The external hardware places no additional demand on the GPU, so everything works hunky-dory.

Nowadays, passive can work up to a point, because recent Eyefinity-enabled GPUs have gained the ability to do a limited amount of onboard-conversion on a limited number of ports. As I understand it, the limits here are two DP plugs, at a resolution no higher than 1920x1080.

That means, you could buy a couple of passive adapters and hook up two 1080p monitors with HDMI/DVI/VGA, and you'd be golden. [Edit: Also, obviously, you should also be able to run one HDMI-compatible monitor on the HDMI port, for a total of three external monitors.]

Now, I could be wrong, and if I am, I apologize. But this is stuff I have seen reported by many users, albeit never by AMD itself.

Absolute worst-case scenario: you order two passive adapters, and if it doesn't work, then you return them for actives. Actives will always work, so long as Eyefinity is, in fact, enabled on the GPU.

Check these out, as well.
Active vs. Passive Displayport adapters *the truth*

Mal's Eyefinity Project (Info, Pics, Vids) (Using PASSIVE DP to VGA adapter!)

 

Thank you so much Gigabitz!!!! I REALLY appreciate your time and the info. I messaged back and forth with a user that goes by Stidolph and he gave me some great info also. He gave me the info that the ports were ++. I went to NewEgg and zoomed in on the right side and "sho nuff" the port have ++ next to them. That gave me the info to search out what that meant in Wikipedia. In stead of spending hours in the forum........I have been on the Eyefinity trail. I am gathering tons of info with every piece of the puzzle I get.

I would say that Eyefinity is possible due to the link I am about to paste. I don't know if you have seen it yet but will put it out there for other ...just in case. https://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc...me=c02549367&lc=en&product=4226693&aoid=35252

Here is another link that was interesting. This site mentions the Envy 17. It also seems to say that the 7850 should push up to 6 displays (not saying the Envy will). AMD Eyefinity FAQs

Now I have the term Enduro to research..... never even heard of that before.

Thanks again.....u r greatly appreciated