HP ENVY 17 3D Ivy Bridge Switchable Graphics problem

hey sd_hvan,

did you get a hybrid drive?

 

3hrs of surfing over Wi-Fi with 60 percent brightness would still be okay.and 2hrs of movie time.I can try to live with that.

My 5hr dream has been shattered...Sad.Very disappointed by HP's misleading sales.

added a Rep for both sd_hvan and Jstr_MSFT.

 

I will not settle on 3 hours battery with ivy bridge

that is a waste of money

 

To everyone concerned with battery life,

i'm pretty sure it's a driver issue, since hd4000 is actually built into the processor itself. I expect a fix will arrive soon enough

 

It pretty bummed as well so hopefully it can be fixed with an driver updates later on.

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Yes I did

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Does intel rapid storage show 3Gb/s or 6Gb/s for you?

 

Ill check when I get back home later tonight or tomorrow.

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I definitely agree to that.Its waste but only for the 33% coupon offered.I might keep it if it matches my least requirement.

Coz I game,I have a collection of 3D movies,so I need kinda both,which I already had in my current 1st gen Core i7 laptop which still runs everything like butter after 2yrs and the core temps never go up above 78 degree C.Only needed a decent battery life.My current friends shuts off after about 90 mins of wifi on 60% brightness and Power Saver profile.
HP's misleading sales mentioned 5.25 hrs and since the previous gen Envy also had it,I was hoping I would get at least 4 hrs of surfing.That would settle my needs.Thats not gonna happen so yes I m disappointed for sure and like a lot of you I feel cheated by HP unless they fix the issue and hence I opened the thread here hoping people will push for it enough so that HP takes notice and releases a Fix.

 

It shows 3gb/s

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Weird... I popped open the cover today and it's definitely a Momentus XT in there. Guess this is another something we've got to look into. -_-






Side note on the graphics, even though we've found out that it's always on the 7850M, i've yet to hear the graphics or processor fan become audible. I'm currently installing FSX (Microsoft Flight Simulator X) which is more processor intensive than GPU, so i'll edit when i test it out with both stock scenery and planes then with payware planes and scenery.

EDIT: It's awesome, i get over 110fps, with graphics maxed out. Now to install some payware.

 

Made a new thread for the 3Gb/s issue.

 

it would be nice to post a link to it
but here it is

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/672577-envy-17-32xx-momentus-xt-hybrid-drive.html

also please let us know here final results from that thread thanks

 

just to make it clear the 3D model has different mother board

System board (includes 1 GB of discrete graphics subsystem memory and replacement thermal material):
Equipped with the Intel HM76 chipset and 7850M graphics subsystem for use only oncomputer models equipped with a 3D display assembly 689999-001

Equipped with the Intel HM76 chipset and 7850M graphics subsystem for use only oncomputer models equipped with a 2D display assembly 689998-00

 

Does that mean no BIOS update or Software can fix it?

 

Here is order summary...

HP ENVY 17 3D edition customizable Notebook PC
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
• Radeon(TM) HD 7850M Graphics 1GB GDDR5 Memory [HDMI, DP]
• 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 750G 7200 rpm Hybrid Hard Drive
• Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
• FREE 2-year Norton Internet Security subscription (a $99 value). Pre-installed.
• 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - Up to 5.25 hours of battery life +++
• 17.3-inch diagonal Radiance Full HD 3D Infinity LED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
• Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
• 720p HD video streaming webcam supports Skype
• Intel 802.11a/b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R) with Wireless Display Support
• Full-size Radiance backlit keyboard
• Adobe(R) Photoshop(R) Elements 10 & Adobe Premiere(R) Elements 10
• 2 year limited warranty included
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

Why even mention Wireless Display support and 5.25 hrs battery when then very well know without the Intel HD 4000 that isnt possible.
Misleading sales..? Anyone..?

 

it is misleading and that is how HP runs their business...
your options:
-21 days return policy no questions asked.
-sue them for wrong advertising and wasting you time while you waste more of your time


The way I see it the 120Hz screen is not connected to the intel 4000 so it is as if you only have the AMD graphics.

Battery life is hard to fight..tons of footnotes

I ordered a non 3D version already and the 3D is going back.
ENVY 3D is not a laptop anymore with 2 hours battery life at the time of manufacturing, and we all know how fast battery life is gone, a year from now you can not be on the battery for more than 30min.

 

As a general rule GPU's on HP's are soldered to the motherboard. CPU's are socketed. Thus any version HP will have a different MB for 3-D vs Non 3-D if you were
interested in why.

 

@Jstr_MSFT...hey any update on the kind of battery life u getting..?

 

With the keyboard on lowest setting, screen at 30-40% brightness and refresh to 60HZ, I'm getting 4 hours just surfing and chatting on messengers. Watching videos my battery says I should get 3+ or so.

 

Did you have Wi-Fi turned or surfing on LAN..?

 

Thanks again RogueTitan7.All Envy 17 3D owners should push for a fix from HP.

This is really stupid on HP's part.HP should take notice and fix it as soon as possible without making us buy new ones.

 

Oh I have wifi on. I'm getting about 3 hours watching a show fullscreen volume at 2 bars on the beats audio knob.

 

The battery on 7850, isn't as bad as some people are making it out to be...

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Battery life on the hd4000 is gonna be ridiculous lol...

*if it gets fixed.

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Not HD 4000 good but for a powerful dedicated graphics card which can play most games at high.Thts not bad either.Probably the hybrid technology built in the Radeon HD.

 

yeah HD 4000 would be pretty sweet.. *if gets fixed

 

I'm thinking that it might be a licensing issue that's preventing the Intel programs from working.
I might br wrong on this issue, but, if all it takes for the licences to be paid to Intel by HP, then, an update to activate it is all that's needed.
Time to start hacking and do a crack.
I will post on Demonoid if I find a solution.

 

That would be great .!! Do let us know if can find a solutions even if HP doesnt.

 

Also what Windows Power profile are you using.Balanced or Power Saving?

 

Doesn't matter since it really just adjusts the screen brightness. I have it on custom not power saving.

 

there are advanced power settings that let you control the other components like the processor, wifi adapter, etc.

 

Kopes..It does..Normally all power saving profile underclocks the CPU and GPU...Select the Power Saving Profile and try to Play a game..You will know..everything would be choppy..

 

Update ...the quick Ship version of the Envy 17 3D still says its has switchable graphics..Is it True..? Can anyone who has ordered the Quick ship version verify this ?

Why would they have the Switchable Graphics on the quick ship version and not the CTO version ?

Now HP is pissing me off and I am sure others too.
Is the HP management retarded or what..?

Yeah I said that.

The link to Quick ship verison HP Envy 17 3D 3290nr

HP ENVY 17-3290nr 3D Edition Notebook PC | HP® Official Store

 

i wouldn't get too excited since its most likely an error.

ivy bridge envy 17 3D does not support switchable graphics at this time (and probably never will).

 

Does the WIDI function actually work unless HP do something soon its seriously going to stuff up their sales of the envy line. I was hoping to get one of these newer model but they just look like lemons now ill be staying away from HP now for sure

 

WIDI works on non 3D models. To be fair this is a forum and the majority of people who post are looking for solutions. There have been many favorable reviews here. I for one am still waiting on a delayed shipment so I'm not elated but I've been delayed with other manufactures before. Still no excuse as they are building a canned piece of equipment.

 

yeah the lack of Intel HD 4000 takes away the WiDi and i m pretty disappointed since I already have a receiver.

My order summary mentions 5.25 hrs of battery life and without the Switchable graphics I dont see they getting anywhere near with everything turned down with ower saving and on idle.

Also it mentions that the Wireless card supporting Wireless Display...but without the HD 4000 its of no use I guess.

Its kind of like you go to buy car and you select the best Car and they tell you it comes without wheels or u go to a restaurant to get the best cuisines and they just give you the raw materials and ask you to go home and cook it yourself...

HP seriously..?

 

Want to sell your adapter.

 

Ha ha not yet.But will definitely let you knw if I m anytime soon.Also my girl is gonna buy a lappy for her and I wanna make sure at least that has a Wi-Di..lol

 

Ok, so i have the 3D. I got literally just under 4 hours on battery. Granted that was not touching the computer at all. No browsing, music etc. Just let it switch off the screen after 2mins and stopped it from going to sleep in the settings... I'd really like to know how HP does their timed battery run-down tests.

 

Power Saver setting.
Screen to the lowest brightness.
Set to the Intel Graphics.
WiFi OFF.
Bluetooth OFF.
WiDi OFF.
KB OFF.
Cool Sense OFF.
Track pad OFF.
Sooo,,,,,,pretty much turn everything off, unplug all the USB/HDMI etc peripherals.

Run your test again............



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what windows power profile did u use?
Wi-fi and bluetooth turned OFF or ON ?

 

Are you not reading the forum or my signature? Thus far 3D owners can't switch to Intel graphics so that means no WiDi. Cool sense didn't need to be off my processor downclocked to 1.2Ghz and parked 3 of the 4 cores running at 46degrees. I know how to squeeze life out of a single charge thank you very much.

HP's power saver
Yes, everything was off. I don't use the proximity sensor, nor Bluetooth, or wireless audio. So those i disabled when i first got the computer.

 

I didn't throttle mine down that much and got 4 hours...

 

I don't know what you are doing, but I'm getting FAAARRR more than you, 2X more just to be sure.....:laugh:
And I'm not turning ANYTHING off,,,,,,,,

I'm getting 6........:tongue:



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Is that the 3D version or not?

 

YES!,,,,

 

Eh... How 6?

 

Actually,,,,I'm going to run it again, I think I can squeeze 8 out of it if I shut some things down.