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    HP Envy 14: Availabilty, etc.

    Discussion in 'HP' started by exi, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. JayJayTG

    JayJayTG Notebook Consultant

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    no no.... 8 cell battery in the Envy 14 and a 6 cell optional slice
     
  2. afinch1992

    afinch1992 Notebook Consultant

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    ahhh hmmmm. anyways, I have given up on waiting and went with the alienware m11x. It fits my needs well enough, and I dont need the core i series upgrade
     
  3. klas

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    I am going different route I sold m11x and now waiting for Envy 14 instead.
     
  4. Butr0sButr0s

    Butr0sButr0s Notebook Evangelist

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    I've been waiting on the envy 14 for a while - patience is the hardest part. I'm a fan of 14'' for portability and recently returned a 15.1 because it was slightly too big. The higher resolutions is great as well, 1440x900 would be the lowest I would consider on a 14+ at this point.
     
  5. nu_D

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    The Envy 14 has a 14.5in screen btw...

    Ya. I've always used 12800x800 on a laptop. But I'm using my dad's old HP, it's a 15.4in screen, but at 1680x1050, and I just like using it more because of the high-res screen, even though it's soo bloody damn slow. I'm not getting a new laptop without a high-res screen.
     
  6. afinch1992

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    oo. why are you going from the m11x to the envy? just wondering
     
  7. dkwhite

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    Heat always seems to be a problem in HP/Dell and Macbooks these days. But Size matters, and in this case, thinner, lighter, and sleeker is what matters.

    Personally, I'd probably get a Macbook Pro (13.3 inch) For a grand. It's just a shame that there is A: No user replaceable battery, and B: Battery life BLOWS in windows on the machine.

    And I don't want OS X. hehehe
     
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    kgbraun Newbie

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    Beric1 Notebook Evangelist

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    Note that the configuration includes (for 1299 Euro == $1610 USD) ....

    1. i5-520M
    2. 4GB DDR3 (2 x 2048 MB)
    3. 500 GB SATA hard drive 7200 rpm
    4. SATA Super Multi DVD ± R / RW with Double Layer support
    5. HD+, 1600 x 900 14.5" LED display with HP Radiance Infinity
    6. 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon ™ HD 5650
    7. HP Webcam TrueVision HD (High-Definition, Low-Light)
    8. 802.11 a / b / g / n Bluetooth® Wireless-Netzwerkbetrieb Bluetooth ® wireless networking
    9. 90 W AC adapter
    10. Li-Ion Battery 8-cell
    11. 2 years pick up and delivery service.
     
  11. Beric1

    Beric1 Notebook Evangelist

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    Other than the 520M (430M is standard, right?), everything is part of the base spec, IIRC.
     
  12. URPradhan

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    I'm doubt of ....

    1. i5-520M
    2. 500 GB HDD
    3. 2 yrs warranty

    in base configurations ....
     
  13. nu_D

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    That's what I've been saying all along boys. Can't remember who was arguing with me over and over again but ah....

    And no. I don't care what they may have said in the videos. Standard, personally, will be i3/2gb/250gb hdd/standard res screen. That for $999. $100 for the screen, $100 for the HDD, $200 for the CPU, $50 for the memory...you get $1,450, considering euro prices are always higher, it works well with the $1,600 they want in the EU.

    :)

    Like I said about 100 times, take the DM4 in consideration. If a high-end config in the DM4 costs $1,175, then take that, add $100 for the screen, $50-100 for the GPU, $100-200 extra on memory/hdd upgrades...and $100 for the "premium" label........and you hit $1,500 or so.

    The belief that they are going to offer the DM4 for $1,175 and the Envy 14 with a similar config at $1,250....just isn't going to happen. Sorry.

    Again. I really really hope I'm wrong. I would love nothing more than the system to be $999 with all of those specs listed in the EU model, save me about $500. I just don't think I am.

    On any account, still early in the game.... we'll see how it is when it's offered on US shores.
     
  14. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Look, nu D there really is no evidence to back up what your saying. HP's pricing is up to HP. If they are priced similarly, then whatever.There are more considerations taken when buying a laptop than just specs. The DM4 weighs less, has a smaller footprint, and has better battery life. People will look at the DM4 and see things they want and will buy it over the Envy 14 because of it, regardless of price similarities. Just some food for thought.
     
  15. nu_D

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    No evidence to back up what I'm saying? That system in the EU costs $1,610 my man. You reckon that system is going to cost $999 in the states?

    And no. Nobody is going to pick the DM4 over the Envy 14 at the same price. Would you? No. Obviously not, you're here. Go over the DM4 lounge after you get your Envy 14, and ask someone for a trade, system for system, I will bet you get 100 replies in your inbox in about 15 minutes. Enough with the footprint and other excuses guys...lol. Better battery life? Man...has a bigger battery than the DM4, has the same CPU, and the same GPU (switchable graphics). How do you figure it has better battery life?

    Whatever. I'm beating a dead horse here. Keep hearing about the smaller footprint and what not...lolz, it's bordering on delusion. I'm going to send you a pm when the Envy 14 comes out and that config listed costs > $1,400...till then, I'll drop this. ;) :)

    Oh. And if that config is $999 or whatever you fellas think it's going to be, I promise I will be in here jumping for joy screaming, "I was wrong!!!!" haha. Nothing would make me happier, promise you that. I just tend to be right, that's all. :p

    Oh #2. I'm doing you guys a favor referring to the DM4. Do the same with the DV5, which is going to basically have the same footprint and weight and everything, actually, Envy 14 would probably be thinner. That system comes out to $1,125, and it doesn't even include discrete graphics.

    Anyway.
     
  16. sinafl

    sinafl Notebook Geek

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    its possible for different countries to have different price points.. just saying. You cant base a distinct trend in pricing due to one listing.
     
  17. URPradhan

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    Friends...Note that we all are speculating. So, lets do not speculate and wait for the launch news before 27th June :D
     
  18. IKilledYourHamster

    IKilledYourHamster Notebook Evangelist

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    Plenty of time to save $1400~ for the Envy 14. I hope it will be $999, but probably not...
     
  19. crovax

    crovax Notebook Geek

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    papalazarou Notebook Consultant

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    I don't think I can!
     
  21. papalazarou

    papalazarou Notebook Consultant

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    1299 Euro will be $1300 USD :p
     
  22. JayJayTG

    JayJayTG Notebook Consultant

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  23. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Mash IT

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    Jay, nobody has a problem converting Euro's to dollars, people are commenting on the fact that we get shafted in europe with a 1 dollar to 1 euro/pound conversion when laptops actually arrive here. I am actually planning on importing an envy 14 as if it is like the envy 15 in the UK dont expect to see it for under 1200GBP
     
  24. StefanHT

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    Not excatly ...

    With todays exchange rate of 1,00 EUR = 1,37440 USD

    1299 Euro (including 19% german tax) = 1091,60 Euro (without german tax)
    convert to ~ US $1500 "without tax".

    German fixed model: HP ENVY 14-1010eg Notebook PC (WN945EA)
    - CPU: i5-520M
    - RAM: 4 GB DDR3 (2 x 2048 MB)
    - HDD: 500 GB 7200rpm
    - HD+ High-Definition LED HP Radiance Infinity Display 1600 x 900
    - SuperMulti DVD±R/RW
    - ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5650
     
  25. Niber

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    Sound about right, I'm preparing for around ~$1,400 but hoping for something a little less. It wont be in the same bracket as the DM4.
     
  26. sunkend

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    Yea, usually prices end up being right around 1:1. Plus, the Euro isn't exactly a superstar ATM.

    Assuming that same config would be $1300 here in the States:
    Take off $100 for the i5-520 upgrade. (i5-430)
    Take off $50 for the 500GB HDD. (320GB?)
    And take off $150 for a 2 year warranty. (No HP Protect Plan)

    You're right back to $1000. I still don't think one grand is out of the question yet.
     
  27. crovax

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    There are rumors that HP Uk are going to sell the Envy 14 at £999 to compete with the 13 inch macbook pro.

    I hope the base specs arent the bare minimum specs.

    If they are, I too will import one from the US
     
  28. vladmoney

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    You shouldn't compare European prics with US prices. There is a reason people travel to the US for the sole purpose of buying electronics. The Envy 14 will be considerably cheaper in the US if you do the currency conversion. Its just the facts of life, accept it.

    It has been said in the HP videos that the i5 and the 5650 will be standard on the $999 price. I wouldn't be surprised if we had to pay for the screen upgrade though.
     
  29. hackker

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    On HP's own site it also talked about the Envy 14 having USB 3.0 and that has been removed since then. So yeah, while they might have stated it in the video I wouldn't count on what they said as being 100% gospel until it ships.
     
  30. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Don't worry I'm not saying your wrong [deep down I think you might be right] I'm just saying that HP said to the contrary, and since they are the ones making the laptops...

    My confusion is this, if the i5 is in the 999 model, and according to the spec sheet there are i3 configs, how cheap is it going to be with all the base options? Compared to the prices of the other Envy models, that's super cheap. But I mean if HP wants to do that, well fine by me, I save more money.
     
  31. EvilFiek

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    I still believe the most trustworthy piece of information we have is the spec sheet. And according to the spec sheet I think the basic $999 model will have the 5650 and the "good" screen (as there are no other alternatives listed) however the processor will be an i3.
     
  32. spgift

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    Actually 1 EUR = 1.2260 USd today and it keeps weakening on a daily basis. But from what I have found is that whatever the price is in EUR the price is the the exact same in US$ i.e. a PC costing EUR 1,300.00 typically costs US$1,300.00 for the same exact thing....if not less.

     
  33. klas

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    I am counting on the specs listed in that spec sheet. So meaning for base price you get the good screen (and it's the only screen since it's non standard 14" screen size)
     
  34. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    I5-430M/1600 x 900/HD5650 = $999. ;)
     
  35. spawn782

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    I am hoping for this combo for $999 + backlit keyboard is included right?
     
  36. IKilledYourHamster

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    he said, "at the customer's request" so I think the back-lit keyboard has a small charge.
     
  37. d motorman

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    backlit keys is a 400 dollar option
     
  38. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Backlit keyboard is standard on the Envy 17. I have no idea about the 14.

    Bronsky
     
  39. Green Lantern

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    What's deal with backlit keys, anyway? I can turn my head behind me and
    type out what someone's reading to me. I learned to touch type in the eighth
    grade. Are there still people out there who hunt & peck by sight?
     
  40. Butr0sButr0s

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    There are people that hunt and peck. There are others that game in dimly lit settings, and I imagine when moving your hands to various quick keys that aren't used that often (home, insert, fkeys) it might make it easier to find.
     
  41. d motorman

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    The bigger problem is people that whine and moan about other people wanting/needing backlit keyboards tbh
     
  42. scishock

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    Are there any specifications available besides the 1300 eruo one? I was wondering if the envy 14 would be capable of dual ssd drives and 1080p display.
     
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    I thought it's to allow people to type in dark/ no-light situatoins. Even though I can type without looking, I occasionally glance at the keyboard when I make mistakes since I don't type with "proper" form.
     
  44. Pitabred

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    I can touch type, pretty quickly. But it's kind of hard finding the home position sometimes in the dark, with no/few visual cues. I'd love to have a backlit keyboard, but I only got my Envy 15 a few months ago, so my wife gets the next new machine, which is looking to be the Envy 14 when it's released ;)
     
  45. OhDima

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    If that is the standard config for $1000, it would be a really hard deal to pass. Even if it is i3 instead of i5, its still pretty good.
     
  46. StefanHT

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    The Envy 14 has only one HDD bay.
    But perhaps you can replace the optical drive with another HDD yourself.
    Someone else already speculated about it.

    I don't think there will be any other Envy 14 configurations available by HP in Germany. There are also only one single config each for Envy 13 and Envy 15 available in Germany.

    In the USA you can use the configurator to design your personal configuration. Everywhere else you can only order the quick ship configurations HP wants to sell in your country or try to import something else.
     
  47. Green Lantern

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    There should be raised nubs on the F and J keys for your index fingers,
    to allow you to index your hand position by touch.
     
  48. d motorman

    d motorman Notebook Evangelist

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    ffs lets not have that discussion in this thread please
     
  49. scishock

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    thanks for the response, guess I'll keep my envy 15. I was going to return it and just wait for the envy 14 if it has 1080p and a working raid0 ssd.

    I'm in Texas btw, i was just talking about the german one because that seems to be the only configuration out there that's not stock
     
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    Will the Envy 14 with quad core i7 have four memory slots (for up to 16GB)?
     
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