HP Envy 14: Availabilty, etc.

hmm, the 5830 in the 14" is almost not believable. Optical, 5830, switchable and quad core? hmm, I don't think so. You can't have switchable and quad core unless you have some Nvidia chipset, which would be a high suprise from HP. Also note the 14" is HEAVIER then the 15" which may explain...

The 17" features, backlit keyboard, E2E, support for optical and TWO 12.5mm height 2.5" hard disks is some impressive features. At 1.24" thick and all that it explains the weight. (the MBP with E2E/Glossy is heavier then their quoted model weight)

 

I'm thinking that the 14 will offer an upgrade to the 5830. The 5650 sounds more plausible at the $999 price point. With i5-540m and 5830 upgrades, I would expect that tidy $1k price to jump to $1,500 minimum, especially considering the price history of the 13.

 

Ahh some things I noticed, the screen tilts further back now, the battery/hdd design is nearly identical to macbooks, and the screen viewing angles in the video looks to be pretty bad (it could just be the video).

 

But he also says, "again as with the 17 you still get a tremendous amount of power, you can still get the same 'graphic cards' and other capabilities on the system...."

Im assuming he's comparing it to the 14. Though if the 5830 wasn't going to be offered in the 14, why would they mention it in there press release. I really hope its an option we can choose. We should know soon..

 

im not sure if anyone saw this yet, but here is the link to some info on the new lines and a way to preorder

HP® Official Store —Buy HP Laptops, Notebook PCs, Printers, Desktop Computers, Handhelds, Scanners, Monitors, and Calculators direct from HP

 

i wonder just how much the envy 14" would cost with the base envy 15 config. like others posting, it seems like it would require upgrades to the i5 and 5830, and i wonder if that display of 1600x900 is even standard or also an upgrade. maybe 400-500 more on the base price?

 

Now that does it. A 3D display on the Envy 17 !?

About the graphics card, I'm more inclined to believe it's a 5650 for the Envy 14, although I honestly hope there will be a better option for buyers to choose.

Remember the first press release for the Envy 15 regarding edge-to-edge glass? No edge-to-edge on the Envy 15, now is it?

We should take this press release with a grain of salt IMO.

 

So does this mean the Envy 15 is completely discontinued?

 

I like how Barry Ferris mentions that the switchable graphics is activated only when you unplug the AC. Simple and it would really be the only time you would ever need the weaker GPU. I don't understand why Apple made the process that manages the MBP graphics switching so complicated and bizarre.

 

I believe the Envy 13 is the one that has been discontinued. The 14 is a replacement for the Envy 13.

 

Umm, the press photos clearly show Edge to Edge glass on the 14". You should take another look.

 

ok, so that's the battery. So can the user upgrade the memory on their own? I am planning to upgrade the memory on my own.

I just watched a video on youtube and the bottom of the Envy 14 looks different than typical notebook, so I just want to make sure.

YouTube - HP Envy 14

stop at around 0:33, the guy flipped over the Envy 14 and showed the bottom.

EDIT: ok, the guy mentioned that you can have access to the motherboard with a few screws removed, so it sounds like you can upgrade the memory.

 

I can't fathom it would come close to the battery life advertised without using the integrated.

 

I really applaud HP for the new Envy lappies. They have addressed nearly all of the concerns of the community and are seemingly the only laptops that compete favourably with Apple's MacBook on all fronts.

As someone that works with graphics, the screen is wonderful and not confined to the now-popular (but IMO too low) 1366x768 res -- a dual external display is icing. The computer should perform well and is quite the looker. Plus, the price is right at a $999 starting.

My only gripe is the weight (5.25 lbs), however, it is my ideal trade-off for the additional features! I am loving it!

}:^)~

 

That is awesome. If all of these initial specs materialize, AND the price is good, I am definitely selling my 2nd gen 15.

 

Yep!

I have the Sony CW with the 1600x900 screen (14"). Quite simply, the contrast is too low. I'm extremely picky and this is EXACTLY the laptop I'm hoping for.

 

What the holy crap. The 17" is adv. with a 3D display. That means 120Hz refresh. Just...wow. HP has pulled out all the stops.

Argh!

 

The 14 model has impressive specs (although I doubt there will be a 5830 upgrade, the 5650 is a sufficient card for the 1600x900 screen). Switchable graphics, backit keyboard, USB ports on the left side, E2E... that's a lot of arguments in favor of the 14. However, the built in optical drive means added weight and a redesign of the cooling system, so we'll have to see if this device suffers from overheating, which wouldn't be surprising given its CPU, GPU and casing size.

 

Anyone know what the specs will be for the $999 price? I've pretty much given up waiting for the Asus N82 and the Envy 14 looks like a great machine.

 

Very tempting to return my wife's unit which is still in the 21-day period. However we would lose the $1k cashback we are schedule to receive from Bing, so we might have to keep plodding away in the dark ages on our non-backlit, no optical drive models. ;-)

Interesting to note that the battery life for the 14 is mentioned as 7 hours "plus another 7 hours with the slice" does this suggest the slice is only 6-cell? With the 9-cell slice on the 15 I get much more than double the battery life.

 

I would say the specs for the $999 14 model would be :
- i3 330M
- 5650 1GB (G?)DDR3
- 320 GB 5200tpm drive
- 4GB RAM

 

In all the videos I've watched about the envy14 with the dude from HP, he never mentions i3... He always mentions i5 or i7. I expect the processor in the base Envy 14 to be an i5 430m

 

If that comes with the 1600x900 high end screen I am IN!

 

Does this suggest that...

While the base processor is an i5-430 (dual core), they say i7s will be available. They also speak of Quads. Does this mean that the 14 can utilize the i7-820Q as the highest option? That would put it a cut above every other laptop in its class, even the Sony Z.

If the base graphics are 5650, will there be a higher end 5830 option? How does the 5650 compare to say, the Nvidia 330 found in Sony Z and MacBook Pro offerings?

Think there will be a 25% Bing Cash Back for the launch of the Envy 14 like there was for the 15? That will have me buy on day one. It seems they fixed all the problems that I had with the 15 causing me to return it except no word on the ACPI-compliant BIOS.

 

Yea in the video Barry says "Starting at $999 with Core i5..." so hopefully it turns out that way. I'm considering this or the Acer TimelineX 3820TG (13.3", Core i5/i7 dual-core, ATI 5650 1GB, ~3.9lbs...no optical drive though) as my next laptop purchase!

 

According to Notebookcheck: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 , in the 3d Mark 05 test, the ATI 5650 scored 13,103 while the Nvidia 330m scored 12,633.

 

As per the youtube video the reviewer saying about i5 and price is $999. So expect i5-430M would be for $999

 

Right now the only real "Portable + Power + Style" sub 15" laptop out there is the $2000 Sony Z.

While I would have liked to see the 13" ENVY upgraded, I can stomach 14 if it comes with a Core i7-820 Quad Core option, which processor wise is unprecedented - right now its hard to find i7 Quads in ANY notebook that isn't a behemoth gaming design or a thick piece of plastic-y crap.

I'm a little underwhelmed with the 5650 but considering it is better than the 330 its nothing to sneeze at. If they offer an upgraded 57xx or 5830 that would be the best option. Then again, the 5650 is a major upgrade from the 13" 4330.

The screen is awesome and probably one of the few notebooks available with a screen similar to the Sony Z and F in terms of brightness and color gamut. Slot load DVD drives and blu-ray are even better. It might seem petty, but including a backlit keyboard was a MAJOR gripe of mine on the original envy, because it seemed cheap and unpolished to leave it out of a "premium" notebook.

The fact that they're starting the price so low is even better - I don't mind loading it up with a Core i7 820Q, 5830, best display, secondary slice battery etc and having the price come to $1500-2000, so long as the options are there.

Only thing I'm unhappy with is the 14" seems to maintain the "Mosaic" of the 15" Envy design on the lid and palmrest, and I'd rather see the plain matte finish or a brushed design, much like the old 13" Envy. If they wanted to do "metal mosaic" or "metal shield" they should have looked at the fabulous Sony Z.

 

This is so true - I'm sick of 1377*768 low res crap screens in 14" notebooks. The timeline would compete better if it offered a 1600x900 option, or had ANY high speed data transfer option (esata, usb3.0, etc). Without these, there's no point in comparing them for many people - myself included.

The fact it has a backlit keyboard is just a bonus. In comparison to the 15" envy, that's up for debate. Weight is not the only variable in portability - actual size plays apart too. The envy 15 has a horrible track pad (hopefully this has been truely fixed on the 14), one of the most obnoxious keyboards i've typed on (because of the stupid extra keys), not to mention no internal ODD...add the weight of your external ODD to the weight of your envy 15 and you're not lighter anymore.

I'll probably be jumping on this if there is no XPS 13 revision before the June release date. I'm also hoping for a Blu-ray drive on the 14 instead of just the standard DVD-RW

 

Funny you bring up the XPS 13. I went from that to a CW. The XPS 13 had a GORGEOUS RGB LED panel but was 1280x800. I stepped up to the CW but unfortunately, despite the 1600x900, I was spoiled by RGB LED.

This notebook is EXACTLY what I've been waiting for. This + a nice coupon or Bing is going to be perfect.

 

Sorry for the OT, the sxps 13 won't be refreshed till Q4, there was a thread about the possible refresh (named "any rumbles on sxps 1340 refresh" -sorry posting from mobile therefore can't paste link), where Dell Bill posted that they had to redesign the chassis, due to it's limitations it couldn't accomodate an i core with dedicated GPU, so June might mean HP to You.

 

I've grown tired of waiting for the Acer Timeline 3820 and Asus N82. Maybe both of those are stuck outside of the force field that surrounds North America?

Now it's time to shift the waiting game over here.

 

Any potential for USB 3.0?

 

my guess would be no, but i just started looking at the envy 14 instead of 15. i think only quad cores get the 3.0, so the 17 probably will, and itll be unlikely on the 14. but i have no clue to be honest

 

I am wondering how the HP website had ATI 5730 drivers for the Envy 15, perhaps if that will be an option for the 15 it might be available for the 14 since it is just an overclocked 5650. Random speculation and wishful thinking, but I hope it is true. Haha

 

My fear is that the battery life advertised is with a 20 pound slice....

 

In this video Barry Ferris claims 7 hours battery life without the slice, 14 hours with the slice. I don't know how accurate those claims are, but even 5 hours without the slice would be incredible.

 

The hp guy in the video said that the battery slice doubles the life to 14. Here's hoping!

 

I wonder if the Envy 14 offer the dual hard drives / SSD drives like in the Envy 15. This will make the Envy 14 PERFECT for me.

 

I'm SO looking forward to this!

 

I can't fathom how they would make that fit.

 

Im jumping over here! I was waiting for the ASUS UL30JT, but when I saw this was coming with an actual projected release date and everything I want in a computer at a decent price, I decided this is now my number 1.

 

Nope, it will only support a single internal drive, not including the slot loading DVD-RW.

 

With a premium laptop, you also get premium parts. The Envy 14 and 17 has many configurations, ones that use Intel's dual-core Core i3 and Core i5 processors. What's even more interesting is that Envy 14 will have a quad-core Core i7 configuration. Yes, in a 14-inch laptop


no i7 620m dual core? ._. you fail hp

 

The dual core i7 620M should work in Arrandale based laptops (i5), whether they offer the option is unknown however. (You could probably just buy one online and install it yourself if you really need one)

 

I thought in the Envy 15, they use 2 1.8" drives to fit into the 2.5" drive bay... or am I fantasizing...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-compaq-voodoo-pc/429073-envy-15-dual-harddisk-answer-w-photo.html

 

Hey guys:

There is a third video about the new 14 and 17 envy's.

YouTube - HP ENVY 14 and ENVY 17 hands-on

note: with the envy 15 usb3.0 was available with the quad core processors. will that be available here on the 14 ???. its not mentioned anywhere, but it is on the 17 model one.

it also doesnt seem a blue-ray player will be available on the 14 model.

base price will get you an i5+5650 card so my guess youll be able to upgrade your video card along with a i7 quad core.

PS: Im Heavily thinking on returning my envy 15 wich is yet to be delivered on May 10, and getting the best loaded envy 14 (possibly for about the same price).

 

So will the Envy 15 get a similar refresh too?

 

Wow. Didn't know that.

 

yeah, I was amazed too. Apparently, this is an upgradeable option in the Envy 15 config page (dual 160gb ssd for $550), and you can run RAID0 with these for some amazing performance