HP Envy 14: Availabilty, etc.

hp claimed the hp envy 15 with 6 cell got 4 hours and we know how well that turned out....

 

Here its more detailed info on the new kids on the block.

Hands On with the HP Envy 14 and Envy 17 | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

 

Seems perfect. Almost too perfect.

I don't know. lol.

Man, oh man, if it has good cooling? I think the laptop I've been waiting for for about 2-3 years now has finally arrived. The fact that it's 14.5in is great.

But the cooling is scaring me....one of the vents is on the back which is going to be covered by the screen, man. Only one little one on the side.

We'll see.

 

This is incorrect. The Envy 14 supports Arrandale (Dual Core w/ IGP) processors only, not Clarksfield (Quad Core w/o IGP) processors.

Thus, the Envy 14 will support the following CPUs:
i3-3xxM
i5-4xxM
i5-5xxM
i7-6xxM

Arrandale (microprocessor) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

On a side note, if you happen to see a 1333Mhz DDR3 memory option for the Envy 14, dont get it! The Arrandale line only supports up to DDR3 800 & 1066MHz memory. So "upgrading" to the 1333MHz DDR3 will give you no performance gain, causing you to waste your cash.

 

Anyone know if the new Envy's will hit Canada? The refreshed Envy 13/15 never got here and I'm worried that these new guys won't either. I really hope it comes over so I have at least the choice of buying it.

 

Looks nice but I want 5830

 

I'm more inclined to believe a press release than your opinion on what chip is inside

 

This. I like OS X (my 06/2009 MBP was my first Mac), but I miss Windows 7, and if that Envy 14 ends up having solid performance and battery life that reasonably rivals that of the MacBook Pros... I'm in.

 

I have been waiting for something like this for a long time, the 14 seems perfect for me. Out of the speculated processors mentioned is there one that runs the coolest? I would sacrifice some performance for less heat (and maybe more battery life).

Edit: and I apologize if I missed it mentioned in the thread, but is there a release date yet?

 

June 22nd or 26th or something?

 

Was going to wait for the ASUS UL30JT or jsut get the Macbook Pro 13". But as soon as I heard about this, you know what happend

 

Thanks. Just read on the main page of this site that the 14" comes out June 27th.

 

If your looking for the most performance with the least heat, go for the i540 option. The i7 620 will generate substantially more heat.

 

Man.

Return my Envy 15, buy something cheap to hold me over, and play the waiting game AGAIN... or just accept the fact that there will always be something better out there.

Switchable graphics and the lack of shortcut keys on the right-hand side are the primary two things I'd like. Damn it HP, damn it.

Edit:

This article from Anandtech has me wondering: http://anandtech.com/show/3700/hp-spring-2010-laptops.

Graphics are the standard integrated Intel HD Graphics of the i3/i5 CPU, or an optional ATI Mobility Radeon 5650 (standard on the quad-core i7 model).

Hmmm, what if the HD 5650 is only optional? In other words, if it doesn't come with the $999 model? If that's the case, I'll keep my sub-$1000 Envy 15, TYVM. It's all speculation, but considering the starting price point I wouldn't be surprised.

 

Can't you just install Win7 into Bootcamp? Vmware?

 

Same boat here, and there's this incessant high pitched buzz coming from the left side fan.

 

Well, I could -- and I did for awhile -- but then I always feel torn between making one the "primary" OS, you know? Where I have all of my stuff on that partition, that's the OS I use, etc. Boot Camp 3.1 definitely improved Windows 7 on an MBP, but there are still a couple of little issues (battery life being a big one). It's not bad, but they're there.

Odd position. I've really grown accustomed to OS X, but I still like Windows 7. But I can see myself getting a 27" iMac one day. Hrmph.

 

Disapointed in the lack of BD-Rom on the 14...

 

Grrr. I hate HP. The Geforce chip overheating/failure debacle made me swear not to buy another HP again, but then the Envy 14 is looking sooooo tempting it's insane. The only thing I don't like about it is the buttonless trackpad (but I usually use a USB mouse anyway) and the Mac envy look (I dislike Apple) but I have to admit that it's a nice style.

 

Well we can't all have our cake and eat it can we?

 

I stand corrected.

HP Unveils Latest Spring 2010 Laptops - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

you called it!

 

Envy14coming on 17th June and Envy17 is on 19th May (period)

 

that's even better!

 

to be fair - i also encountered this issue on my Dell Inspiron 1420 and swore to never purchase from Dell again. both companies, and others affected by this, just stuck to the same treatment by extending the warranty one useless year.

 

The Envy 14 looks really promising. It has all of the "pro" features that I'm looking for in a new laptop. The high-quality screen sounds great to me and the back-lit keyboard is a nice extra.

The weight (over 5 lbs.) is a bit off-putting, but not a deal-breaker. Also, I wish they would have ditched the etched pattern on the lid and palm rest. What do you current Envy owners think of the etched pattern? Does it look garish in person or is it more subtle?

Also, I'm really curious about HP's reliability. Could I expect to keep the Envy 14 for the next four years? Would a SquareTrade warranty through Amazon be sufficient insurance, or would you all recommend an HP Total Care package?

 

While that wording would certainly suggest the dedicated card is optional, it's the only source I've seen that didn't suggest switchable graphics for all versions of the notebook (and since HP is selling that as a feature, it'd be incredible if switchable wasn't the default for all.) But, we shall see. I look forward to hearing more. At 999, the envy 14 is a very sexy laptop indeed.

 

Current Envy owners definitely think it's a more subtle design. According to Envy owners on this forum bystanders have commented about the stylishness of the notebook and the etched design.

 

Seems like a decent competitor against the m11x too. M11x comes out to around 1k to 1.1k with necessary upgrades like bluetooth, more ram, bigger hd. etc. Envy has better screen, cpu, gpu, and other features like HD webcam, beats audio, etc. It does remain to be seen if it causes lap burning under gaming stress though.

 

Damn I think I am sold on this. The size, power, and resolution just does it for me.

How does the 5860, or whatever it is supposed to come with compare to the Asus N82JV's Nvidia card? Is it a wash?

 

The 5650? it doesn't blow the 335m away, but it is significantly more powerful. You would be able to notice a difference in the gaming capabilities.

 

Here its the info youre looking about the video cards on both lappies.

This link will take you to information you seek on the ATI Radeon 5650. The one on the Asus N82JV (Nvidia GeForce GT335M) should be on the list on your right side of the screen.

Notebookcheck: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650

 

It's also worth noting that the nVidia card in the Asus doesn't support direct X 11 but the Radeon in the Envy does. So games that use DX11 will have an increase in performance.

 

Seems like a 5 fps advantage on high settings for the 5650 in most games.

Seems like 335M does better on DIRT2 but I think that may have to do with the 5650 running it in DX 11 instead of 10.

Notebookcheck: Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List
Notebookcheck: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650
Notebookcheck: NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M

Bah beaten to the punch

 

I'm sincerely avoiding to go into those speculations since:
- none of the HP guys stated anything about the i3
- there was one guy who said that the 14 would have a 5650, but the other and the press release stated the 5830
- now we are also digging in the speculation of what is going to be the storage.

Surely we are going to get it right sometime, the probability states that we ought to.

Don't get me wrong I'm pretty much anxious with the envy 14, thinking really hard on changing mine to this one

 

It's definitely at least a 5650, I believe it was stated by an HP rep in a video and by anandtech. Storage capacity has many options: 250 GB, 320GB, 500GB, or 640GB HDD, or 160GB/256 GB SSD.

Source: HP Unveils Latest Spring 2010 Laptops - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

 

if anyone can confirm an i7 620m for my dual core needs then you make my day!!!!

aww man hp sucks.

The HP ENVY 14 features a 14.5” 1600x900 display that they claim is 59% brighter than any other notebook in its class. It features a 1.1” thick aluminum chassis weighing in at 5.25lbs. Performance is provided by Intel Arrandale Core i3 and i5 processors with an option to use a quad-core Clarksfield i7 processor—pretty amazing in this size of notebook. Graphics are the standard integrated Intel HD Graphics of the i3/i5 CPU, or an optional ATI Mobility Radeon 5650 (standard on the quad-core i7 model). This is supported by up to 8GB of DDR3 RAM.

no i7 620m... what i really need!

 

Do you really need it? It uses more power than the i5's and runs hotter without a significant increase in performance (at best 5% in most situations) compared to the i5 540m. The i7 will also decrease battery life. I think you'll be fine with the 540.

But I mean if your work demands it I'm not going to boss you into a processor. Just mentioning the advantages of going i5 instead of i7.

 

And also, you could buy and install one yourself if you need one that much! Just make sure to order an Arrandale Envy 14.

Currently I'm looking for any excuse not to buy this laptop, and all I have thought up is the (possibly) poor quality "ClickPad". Sadly, I use a mouse...

 

Is it me or does it seem that people always have something to complain about? HP has addressed a lot of concerns and requests customers complained about in the first gen Envy's. If HP has fixed the touchpad issues and it can stay cool, it could be a near perfect laptop. Except we have people who complain that it weighs too much (of course people were all crying that the first gen didn't have a dvd drive), that it may not have an HD5830, that it doesn't have 8hr battery life, and hell someone even complained that it has a backlit keyboard. You can never satisfy some people.

 

You're definitely right. There will always be a defect to other people's eyes because they just dont know what they want or want too much. However those people usually end up not buying any products and just continue to criticize whatever as there will be no equipment good enough to spend their money on.

On a different angle here is a little bit of info to think about between the envy 15 and envy 14 lappies.

Envy 15:
-Processors: i5 and i7 all the way to 820QM
-Video: ATI 5830 1Gb of DDR3 Memory (Class 1 type)
-Screen: 15.6 inches, Up to full 1920x1080 (Anti Glare or Brightview)
-Memory: Up to 16Gb DDR3 (either 1066 or 1333MHz)
-Weight: 5.13LBs
-ODD: Up to a Blue-Ray player + DVD/RW (external only)
-HDD: Up to dual disk using SSD drives or Up to 640 GBs using a single drive
-USB: 3.0 available with an i7 processor
-Battery life: "Apparently" up to 7 Hrs using both batteries at once
-No Backlit Keyboard (unfortunately)

Envy 14 (What we are supposed to know so far)
-Processors: i3, i5, and Quad i7 (720, 820 ???)
-Video: Integrated or ATI 5650 1GB DDR3 Memory (Class 2 type)
-Screen: 14.5 inches Edge 2 Edge Glass (1366x768 up to 1600x900)
-Memory: up to 8GB DDR3 (unknown frequency)
-Weight: 5.25 LBs (Off course you have to count the slot dvd drive's weight)
-ODD: Only a DVD/RW (which is internal)
-HDD: Single drive configuration
-USB: Only 2.0 (unknown on 3.0 but nobody has talked about it) so possibly a no no.
-Battery Life: "Apparently" 7 Hrs and up to 14 Hrs with both batteries combined (counting on using the switchable graphics version. Unknown timing for Quad cores edition which should not be too much different from the 15 version)
-Backlit Keyboard

Note\Question: Would it be worth it to loose a Full HD display, a USB 3.0, and a Class 1 Video card over a backlit keyboard, a lower capable video card and a glass display with less resolution, while maintaining the same weight (not that weight matters much in this case). Are 14 Hrs way more important than 7 Hrs ??? (will you be on the street using your lappie for more than 7 Hrs without going home and putting it in an AC outlet ???) Opinions are most welcomed.

 

Also keep in mind that even though this is a less powerful GPU, it will not have to run games at as high of a resolution.

 

You only got your Envy for sub-1000 because of that coupon. Those coupons come out every few months. You can connect the dots.

 

Yea I know. Someone here was complaining about the price of the Envy 14. It's a steal for what your getting. Then some people complained about the graphics card being not powerful enough.

So to those who criticize unfairly you should go buy the HP EVERYTHING, comes preloaded with:

-10/11/12/13/14/15/16/17/18 inch screen

-2560 by 1440 resolution

-RGBLEDAMOLEDLCDCCFL screen

-Intel Core i7 920 XM

-ATI Radeon 5970 in Crossfire

-VGA, Esata, HDMI, Mini Display, 6 USB ports, 2 USB 3.0 ports, Kensington lock, Expresscard, SD Card, Intel Wifi 100000 a/b/c/d/g/n/f/g/z/x/q/z/n wireless card

-backlit keyboard, backlit screen, backlit vents, backlit back, backlit battery, backlit bottom, backlit CPU, backlit GPU, backlights for the backlit stuff

-DVDRW, Blu-Ray, Green-Ray, Red-Ray, Laser, Shrink Ray, Growth Ray, Ray Allen, all integrated

-4D Eyefinity support with up to 32 external displays.

-48 hours of battery life

-50 TB of storage

-64 GB of RAM

-.75 inches thin

-2lbs

- Starting price of $200

You should really go check it out.

 

But that GPU is too strong, I want a weaker one!

 

Only an i7-920XM? I want an i7-980X... No, wait, two of them!

 

Agreed. Another total design fail by HP. If it had a weaker GPU it just might be able to compete with the MBP. HP can't get anything right.

(I hope someone gets the mockery / irony in this!)

 

any idea if there will be a matte screen option for the 14?

 

I wanna say no

 

Right, but the thing is that HP actually didn't extend the warranty for some laptops that had defective chipsets even when they extended warranties for others with the same chipset. My tx2000 is crying softly next to my bed

But damn, this thing looks amazing. I was looking more into 13" laptops because I wanted something light, but I feel like the Envy 14 with the battery slice option is a better idea for mobility. 6 lbs vs 4 really isn't so bad and if I can get crazy battery life *and* great performance without overheating and stuff I'll get it. It sure helps that it's ATI and not nVidia. I guess I'll just change my boycott to nVidia instead of HP and be happy =)