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    *HP Envy 15 (11XX / 12XX series) Owners Lounge!*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by wild05kid05, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. threeply

    threeply Notebook Evangelist

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    Finally left Alaska sort facility. Maybe I'll get it by the weekend
     
  2. Kamzu

    Kamzu Notebook Evangelist

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    Mine is also on the same flight Isramair!

    FLY FASTER FDX86!!!
     
  3. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    Wait, now that I checked a few flights left to Memphis! Flight 12 left at 4pm.

    Go here and use the dept and arrival to see all the flights :)
     
  4. JJB

    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    SO CLOSE YET SO FAR AWAY!

    I swear I can see the flashing lights of that plane :eek:

    So close.PNG
     
  5. smigl001

    smigl001 Newbie

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    does anyone have problem with webcam? mine gives me purple tint. I see everything wiht this tint under normal bulb light? other then that it heats up to 65oC on idile? is that normal? (I used real temp to measure)
     
  6. jyar727

    jyar727 Notebook Guru

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    on idle? No. thats a bit high for idle .I have the 720, def not that high when idle.
     
  7. smigl001

    smigl001 Newbie

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    I will take it back, it is right now at 55oC and the only think I am doing it this forum. I also have 720. do you have any problem with the camera under old-style bulb?
     
  8. smigl001

    smigl001 Newbie

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    I will take it back, it is right now at 55oC and the only think I am doing it this forum. I also have 720. do you have any problem with the camera under old-style bulb?
     
  9. chang-er

    chang-er Notebook Consultant

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    rapion125 Notebook Evangelist

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    Most likely FDX 12. It left a little over 10 minutes after the left Alaska scan. We'll find out when a scan shows up in a little less than 3 hours. I doubt we'll be seeing them tomorrow though.
     
  11. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    From past experiences, most of you guys will get their computers tomorrow.
     
  12. jyar727

    jyar727 Notebook Guru

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    Yeah, can i disable the night mode or something? All I did was change the hue/saturation a bit to make it look more normal and less blue. But my eyes look weird
     
  13. rapion125

    rapion125 Notebook Evangelist

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    If that's the case, then I should print out the pre-sign thing. I'm looking forward to benchmark this machine.
     
  14. process

    process \( ಠ_ಠ)/

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    Where can I get a presign thing?
     
  15. lsramair

    lsramair Notebook Consultant

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    I hope they incluse the "SWSetup" folder as they did with my last envy, seeing as how all the drivers arent posted online for the refresh.

    First thing i plan to do is disable the SSDx2 raid and reinstall Win7 onto the single SSD, and that folder should contain all the drivers they used.

    Anyone with a refresh can confirm that folder is there with the refresh drivers? Specifically worried about getting the HP 5830 Catalyst 9.11, NEC USB3 Drivers, Wifi 6200 drivers. Is assume the rest of the Envy Gen1 drivers would work, but those new ones are a necessity.

    Thanks
     
  16. lsramair

    lsramair Notebook Consultant

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    Ive never had a problem with just signing an index card with my printed name and asking them to leave it. I assume however that you can print some sort of specific tag on the shippers website. Fedex or UPS etc
     
  17. drizek

    drizek Notebook Evangelist

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    From the fedex tracking page.

    Edit: actuallly, from HP shipping email.
     
  18. drizek

    drizek Notebook Evangelist

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    Is ther eno way to use hacked drivers with the 5830? This whole laptop driver situation is so anhnoying. I thought we had gotten past this.
     
  19. lsramair

    lsramair Notebook Consultant

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    There is, but these are very new video cards and it may take a few days for us to get to it. keep an eye on www.strags.com for an update, thats the most surefire way to success.
     
  20. drizek

    drizek Notebook Evangelist

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    with nvidia you just had to add the name of your card in the inf file and it worked fine. What is hte process with ATI?
     
  21. PopRoxMimo3

    PopRoxMimo3 Notebook Deity

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    10 pgs skipped due to shipment updates.
     
  22. yejun

    yejun Notebook Deity

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    Use mobility mod.
     
  23. ggcvnjhg

    ggcvnjhg Notebook Evangelist

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    Lol, seriously. The last 30 pages of the original thread is polluted with it too.
     
  24. zeth006

    zeth006 Traveler

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    Regardless, I'm glad to see people are getting their Envy's. I'm looking forward to more anecdotes, likes, and dislikes from their user experience. I'm also looking forward to a detailed guide on how to upgrade the RAM. I'm afraid of breaking something!
     
  25. JJB

    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    Did you not see my posts yesterday regarding upgrading RAM? it was posted after those pictures of the wrong machine.

    Also here is a step by step guide from the Envy 15 (g2) user manual:

    http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01952287.pdf

    This is direct link to .pdf (4.2MB) see page 67 - 70.

    The internal "non-accessable" module is the exact same process, you just have to open the case to get to it.
     
  26. smigl001

    smigl001 Newbie

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    yea, that is right, it seems that the night mode (the IR sensor, not the IR support lamps) is responsible for it. in really "good conditions" I can see my vains on through my skin (it must be because of the night visions, I get the same in the night vision mode on my camcorder). did you ever contact the HP about this? lets try to solve it together.
     
  27. zeth006

    zeth006 Traveler

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    Yeah, saw your last post about the youtube video. It was kinda far...and the pics...wish they were more detailed.
     
  28. bratboy

    bratboy Notebook Evangelist

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    Look at your email that had the tracking number. In that block of text is a link to print an official one out. Just sign and stick on door.
     
  29. zeth006

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    Was hoping to find a detailed description on how to open up the laptop safely and remove the modules as shown in that PDF you posted. Guessing the PDF guide doesn't have this.
     
  30. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Why would you guess that it doesn't? Did you even look at it? It has pictures labeled, step by step instructions, caution statements on where you could break something, everything. Really... it's a manual that describes in detail how to do all kinds of repairs to it. It's meant for field technicians, but they provide it to end users as well. Why not try looking first?
     
  31. zeth006

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    I did take a look at it. :D


    I found the 2 module slots at the bottom. But my question is the interior portion...the part where I have to unscrew 20+ screws to get inside....

    Looked in the index, only the bottom compartment is described...I'll look again though.
     
  32. JJB

    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    Here is what your looking for I think. The actual Envy 15 service manual:

    http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01911053.pdf

    Disassembly procedures (with drawings):

    Pg 44 to 49 = disassembly
    Pg 50 to 52 = SKIP THIS - you do not need to remove keyboard
    Pg 53 = Internal RAM location

    Reverse to reassemble.

    Note that this is from the original Envy but should be identical for gen2 except thier will be only 1 slot in each location.

    Edit: assuming your getting an i5 version (hard to keep track) if i7 then 2 slots each location.

    Hope this helps :)
     
  33. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Ahhh. My apologies then. There should be some videos on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y05sYNkzSLc
     
  34. zeth006

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    Yep, JJB showed that link earlier. Imma have to use the video+the original manual to do upgrading. It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay some Geek Squad $50 to install my RAM and risk having him mess up or even break my laptop and deny liability.
     
  35. zeth006

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    I'm now reconsidering. I may shell out the extra $ to get the i7 if it means I get USB 3.0. First laptop ever I'm spending over $1,000 on, figured might as well pay extra to future-proof it if it's going to last at least 3 years. I suspect later on down the road RAM prices will drop drastically as they did with DDR2 not too long ago.

    Thx. Will look at original manual.
     
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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Depends on what you want. I figure I want the i5 since it has lower power, and it'll still scream. USB3 isn't that useful for anything but external hard drives, and since all of the Envy's have a powered eSATA port (just gotta find the right enclosure, which I did ;)) I can still get the full 1.5/3.0Gbps speed of SATA, which is faster than any drive I'm aware of right now. As fast as the internal hard drive connection at any rate, so it won't matter if USB3 goes 5Gbps.
     
  37. JJB

    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    IMPORTANT NOTE FOR anybody that plans to open the case on thier Envy 15 (all versions)

    To avoid scratching the black bezel around the display --

    Make sure to put some sort of padding (cloth, cardboard etc.) around the bottom portion of bezel accross the full width of screen (across HP logo area)

    The problem is as you lift (pry) up the palm rest / keyboard assembly, the back edge near the screen pops up and rub its edge against the bottom of the bezel.

    On my 1st envy I did not even notice this could happen, just noticed the ugly scratches after final reassembly.
     
  38. dalingrin

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    Don't forget USB3 protocol overhead and the overhead to convert from SATA to USB3 will bring speeds down to <3.2Gbps. Additionally, it requires more CPU usage than SATA.
    I'm really not sure why you would choose USB3 vs eSATAP for external storage.
     
  39. zeth006

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    The eSata port is worth nothing.

    I'm told that many of the newest games today at least partially utilize the power of multiple cores. Though Starcraft 2 is estimated by some game bloggers to need a minimum of a 9800 Pro, a better CPU will allow for smoother processing of calculations.

    Also, has anyone by chance already gotten their i5-equipped Envies? Has anyone gotten a definite answer to the question of the i5 Envies' maximum RAM? Some people have said that each slot can only support 4gb, making it 8gb. A lot of conflicting info! :confused:
     
  40. JJB

    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes it is 8GB maximum 2 x 4GB modules.

    Maybe somebody will come out with 8GB modules someday but it might be cheaper to buy a new computer....
     
  41. JJB

    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    1/28/2010 10:03:00 PM OAKLAND, CA, US Arrived at Sort Facility

    The Envy's have arrived in Oakland :D
     
  42. zeth006

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    Good point haha. News articles show that DRAM prices have jumped on average about 30% over the past several months. :eek: Explains why companies like Elipida and Hynix are now back in the black.

    On the other hand, I'm guessing Intel designed the MB to support only 4gb/slot. My last Dell only supported 2gb/slot, making it a max of 4gb.
     
  43. zeth006

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    Then again, when RAM prices drop, if I've gotten the i7 instead of the i5, I'll probably buy 2 4gb sticks and install them on the 2 empty slots. When prices drop again, I'll buy 2 more, making it a grand max of 16gb.

    If my experience with my Dell is any indicator of how I'll do it, there'll be a 9-12 month gap between the two purchases!
     
  44. sparkywoo

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    my computer is with yours. exact same time. Any chance of it being delivered tomorrow? I live only a few hours away from Oakland (San Diego).
     
  45. JJB

    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    If you do get the i7 it may be cheaper in the short run to order it with 8GB preinstalled (4 x 2GB), it is only a $300 upgrade from HP. Compared to ~$340 for 2 new 4GB modules
     
  46. threeply

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    Looks like mine has arrived with yours. I wonder If mine had a window seat or aisle? lol
     
  47. JJB

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    Not sure but you have a much better chance than I do. Mine still has to get to Seattle before 6:30am to make the only fedex flight to Juneau tomorrow :eek:
     
  48. zeth006

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    Maybe I'm unrealistic or dreaming. But I was thinking that the RAM prices would drop dramatically after 1 year of ownership.

    I'm no market expert. But I've heard that none of the major chip companies are starting up new factories in 2010. But some of them are still ramping up existing assembly lines ahead of an economic recovery and PC sales. I'm speculating that even with rising demand and tepid capacity, we'll still see 4gb prices rise a little further during Q1 of 2010 then level out and fall going into 2011. As DDR3 reaches scale of economics as a result of improved manufacturing methods, costs will fall.

    I'm planning to buy the Envy around May/June of 2010 so by around late 2011, I should be able to get a 4gb RAM stick for $120 or under.

    That's just my forecast. :D
     
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    Argh... now it's gonna chill in the warehouse until Tuesday probably =( =(
     
  50. JJB

    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    Wow! I am a little.......dumbfounded.....

    Are you saying you have not ordered an envy ?

    While I don't mind helping people out when I can, it's a little amazing that you're asking so many specific questions related to a brand new product that no one has recieved yet.

    It's one thing to be asking this stuff if you have one coming in the next few days but, quite frankly, you do not need to know these things now. Why not have some patience and let people recieve thier units and report all the usual data over the next few weeks?

    If your not planning to buy your envy until May I bet all your questions and concerns will be fully documented long before you place an order.
     
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