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    *HP Envy 15 (11XX / 12XX series) Owners Lounge!*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by wild05kid05, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. centrik

    centrik Notebook Consultant

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    Is there a less bulky PSU I can purchase that will allow me to run an i5-540M envy full stressed?
     
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  3. OneCool

    OneCool I AM NUMBER 67

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    Just curious,Whats the difference between the i5's HD5830 and the i7's HD5830?
     
  4. AnXioZ

    AnXioZ Notebook Evangelist

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    Nobody knows.
     
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    we've all been pondering it but no one has found a 110w-120w slim adaptor, only 90w slim adaptors which seems would not be enough fully stressed but good enough for most applications.
     
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    we've all been pondering it but no one has found a 110w-120w slim adaptor, only 90w slim adaptors which seems would not be enough fully stressed but good enough for most applications.
     
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    we've all been pondering it but no one has found a 110w-120w slim adaptor, only 90w slim adaptors which seems would not be enough fully stressed but good enough for most applications.
     
  8. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    If I had to guess, it is just the different motherboards/chipsets their on.
     
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    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    just bought envy 15! i5 540M/4GB/1920x1080 glossy
     
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    If anyone gets that slim adapter, please post your results here.
     
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    oh nevermind hehe
     
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    I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I didn't see any responses. I imagine this has already been discussed in the 500 something pages thread, but I really don't have time to read through so many pages of fluff to see what you guys came up with :D.

    Thanks!
     
  15. yatesd

    yatesd Notebook Consultant

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    - Battery life has increased by 72%
    - 3dMark06 is now between 8400-8600
     
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    whoa now! i guess that battery life is just for the joy of having the IGP? know any numbers about the battery life on the i7 on this revision?
     
  17. daraj

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    Can you explain more? Did u get the system ?
     
  18. yatesd

    yatesd Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry, I was just having fun. ;)

    Did anyone receive the 2nd generation Envy yet? From what I have read most initial shipments are this week. I am also anxiously waiting in anticipation, but unfortunately mine is targeted to ship Jan 28th.
     
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    19th!!! I'm looking forward to it. My hope is every department is disorganized at HP except the engineers and the assembly dept. I hope when it arrives it asks me how I like my eggs and when I say over easy it goes downstairs and cooks them perfectly, in a pan, not on its chassis, and brings them up to me apologizing for making me wait almost 2 weeks in anticipation for this machine
     
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    Loool. It's gonna cook your eggs alright. Just don't put the lappy on your lap :)
     
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    dwjp90 Notebook Consultant

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    Anybody else notice this?

    the 620m is a dual core, that is less powerful than the 720m... i think they messed up on the pricing
     
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    quasi13 Notebook Geek

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    I think they're hoping consumers choose it thinking it's the best option or base their decision off clock speeds only. Either way, it's ridiculous. You could just buy the base i5 and replace it with the Arrandale i7 for half the price of the upgrade and you'd still have the i5 to sell.
     
  23. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    The funny thing? It'll work.
     
  24. quasi13

    quasi13 Notebook Geek

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    I agree! It's hard to feel sorry for those consumers though. They're either rich, ignorant, or both. :)
     
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    Who's excited about having Direct X11 in the 5830? Has anyone seen any benchmarks? I am primarily interested in transcoding AVCHD since I just bought an HD camcorder.

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    http://www.amd.com/us/products/note...ility-hd-5800/Pages/ati-mobility-hd-5800.aspx

    Features & Benefits

    Get unrivalled visual quality and intense gaming performance for today and tomorrow with support for Microsoft® DirectX® 11

    With over 1 teraFLOPS of massive compute power2, 1 billion transistors, 800 stream processors and support of next generation GDDR5 extreme memory bandwidth, be prepared for enormous performance and heart-pounding action

    With ATI Eyefinity technology get the ultimate immersive gaming experience innovative, panoramic, multi-display capabilities4,6

    Get a graphics performance boost with ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode to meet the hard-core demands of your alternate reality7

    Enjoy the ultimate HD experience when watching the latest Blu-ray movies.

    Enjoy dual stream 1080p (PiP) with Dolby® TrueHD or DTS HD Master Audio™ support delivering high bandwidth, cinema-class 7.1 channels of surround sound over HDMI1,8

    Tap into the massive parallel processing power of your GPU with ATI Stream technology and tackle demanding tasks like video transcoding with incredible speed5,9,11

    Engineered to take advantage of all the graphical features within the new Windows® 7 operating system, ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5800 Series GPUs deliver a visually rich experience and a fast, responsive PC10
     
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    camf1217 Notebook Consultant

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    I agree that the 720QM should be priced higher than the 620M, but in all fairness notebookcheck places the 620M directly below the 720QM, dual core is fine for most everyone + higher clock speed, and its an Arrandale which means like the i5 Arrandales it will be capable of switchable graphics = great battery life
     
  27. quasi13

    quasi13 Notebook Geek

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    Yeah, for the reasons you stated, the 620 would be my choice over the quad-core i7s. The 620 is probably a better choice for most consumers. But what a premium HP is charging for it!
     
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    yeah, its probably because its a new option, give it week or two and the price should go down. (or could be due to availability of the 620M ?)
     
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    stupidhead512 Newbie

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    threeply Notebook Evangelist

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    The price is a premium probably because of supply. Normal pricing for that processor should be at parity with the i1-720qm.
     
  31. yejun

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    I doubt it is due to supply. Dell priced 620m $120 above 540m.

    In one of the benchmark on notebookcheck, 540m get same score as 720m. So I wouldn't be surprised if 620m has better over performance than 720.
     
  32. bratboy

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    im sure it is, the only issue being you will probably have to buy the tip as well...kensington is notorious for leaving out the tips commonly used by everyone ever.
     
  34. sparkguy

    sparkguy Notebook Guru

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    Can anyone confirm if HP will release Core i5 Envy with USB 3.0. If not why not and when will we see USB 3.0 in Core i5 models.
     
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    not on i5 per their website, because it requires an 'expensive' usb hub controller since intel isn't going to support it until 2011 they say. i tend to believe this as they're working on their lightconnect one connection fits all solution.
     
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    sparkguy Notebook Guru

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    i was able to build the following for $1970 (1212 GBP) including taxes

    i7-820QM
    4GB Ram
    320GB HP
    brightview 1080p screen

    might want to hop on the usa hp site and configure your specs and see what you get. probably is cheaper.

    As for the gift comment, might want to see what people on ebay can do for you.
     
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    I have read on the interwebs that intel will release the i7 quads in 32 nm architecture later this year though still having the same specs as far as numbering goes...IF this were to happen to the mobile i7 processors (don't care for reasons why it will or wont) would they still have the same socket type? What I am alluding to is, in the future, should I desire an upgrade and I see there is an i7-820QM or i7-860QM with 32nm cores what are the chances of it working in the envy 15?
     
  39. dwjp90

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    did you mean 32nm?
     
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    doh, yes! :D
     
  41. GizmoSlip

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    Woah, 72% would place the battery life in the area of 4-5 hours (no slice) and 10-11 hours (with slice). Sounds a bit much if you ask me. Seems like HP would be advertising the increased battery life like crazy if it was true, but then again, HP is so disorganized, on HP Envy 15's website it still says the Envy 15 has the 4830 graphics card. It's unbelievable how crazy disorganized HP can be (I remember them also advertising the incorrect resolution on the dv3t as 1280x800, when it was actually 1366x768). How sure are we that we can actually use the i5's integrated graphics as switchable on the fly? It's key to getting such better battery life. It's also key to controlling the temperature of the laptop so that it can be used on the lap comfortably. Basically, it's key to me liking the product (I think). :)
     
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    Disorganized is putting it mildly :mad:

    I was told by 2 different sales people that my order for Beat LE would come with USB3.0 then this morning found out that the LE still isn't upgraded and only the regular 15 was. Ended up having to cancel the order and place a new one to ensure for the regular 15 to ensure getting USB 3.0
     
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    I don't know if you saw my follow up post, but I was just being sarcastic about the increase. The original poster was basically complaining that no on responded to his specific benchmark questions, even though:

    - We have no reported cases of anyone receiving one yet
    - There have been zero reviews posted online about this second generation product yet.

    Of course, I am as anxious as anyone. The first person to receive their 5830 Envy will need to provide detailed feedback ASAP!
     
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    On another topic, I was just at Best Buy this morning to check out the new Sony F Series (i7 w/bluray). It seems OK, but I suspect the Envy will be much nicer. I inquired about i7 laptops and the only other one on the floor was the HP dv7. The sales rep told me they weren't expecting more i7 models for 6 weeks!

    I was also in Staples this morning and of course no i7 processors either. It still seems difficult to find models with these specs.
     
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    Does anyone know which graphics card from Nvidia should theoretically be the closest to the ATI 5830 in terms of performance from Nvidia? The Sony uses the GE330 and Lenovo W510 uses the NVS5100.

    I guess the advantages for ATI is Dirext X 11/ ATI Stream and the main advantage of Nvidia is Cuda (which Adobe seems to favor). Unfortunately I don't know much about graphics cards.
     
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    has anyone had any luck with the coupon codes on recent purchases? we were waiting on getting a TM2 and now that its up it seems the 500 off and 300 off envy coupons i'd seen last week aren't working :(
     
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    A comparable graphics card seems to be the Nvidia GTX 260 coupled with a slower processor (3dmark06 score right around 9200). The GTX 260 with an i7 will outperform the Radeon 5830 significantly. It seems that the 5830 should get anywhere from 8400-9500 3dmark06 score, but again, we won't know for sure until someone gets their new Envy 15 and benchmarks it. :) All the hoopla will be over by the time I get my Envy 15 in early Feburary.
     
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    That's good to know and makes me feel better. The GTX 260 requires much more power and a large frame notebook. I was initially tempted by the Alienware M15x until sanity kicked in...didn't wan't a 10lb beast that looks like it was designed for a rich teenager.

    So this card should be faster than almost any comparable notebook in its class: Dell XPS 16, Lenovo W510, Sony F Series, and HP's own Dv7/8 quad, but not as powerful as the 10lb gaming rigs with the gaudy colors.

    Sounds perfect....and please everybody...what does a Mac have to do with the Envy? The Mac is outdated and overpriced. The only thing the Mac's do better than most is build quality (if you can live with a single button mouse). Of course, the Envy even takes this traditional advantage away.

    The other i7 machines in the same price range as a MBP simply blow it away and most are very well made since they are generally the premium models within each respective line.
     
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    cosigned...

    I noticed you're in york, pa....a hop skip and a jump away from me, whens your laptop being shipped?
     
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    Right now it is scheduled for Jan 28th. I just placed my order Friday.

    I initially saw the coupon last weekend and goofed around until the code didn't work anymore. Once the new coupon was issued I jumped on it right away. Seems like the best value for the money, but won't truly know until I receive it in person.
     
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