*HP HDX DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 1*

thanks, but no good. i want a tested refurb unit, or new 1, not a second hand one. cant risk it.

 

Being that it's been discontinued for some time now, it's going to be particularly difficult to find one new.

Try googling "HDX 9494nr"

Has the specs you require.

 

Hi All

Just waiting on mine to be delivered! Does anyone know where the UK models are refurbed? I'm hoping it's done by HP of course, but is someone going to upset me by knowing that DSG do it in house? Apart from the usual DSG jokes, are they any good at refurbing?

Cheers in advance - Justin (Surrey)

 

Reading DEZMONDAY complaint, you can use a USB audio card with SRS or Dolby and attach external high-quality surround speakers/subwoofer to it, bypassing the internal defective sound system. After all, computers in the not-so-old days didn't have built-in sound cards...

You may also wish to consider a touch screen (pen-only) mod--this model covers screens up to 22":
http://www.penandfree.co.kr/english/products/duo_monitor.asp

 

Many on Ebay are HP factory sealed refurbished so wouldn't those be tested by techs?

 

Get it here (released 13 March 2009) - for Dragon HDX 9xxx running Windows 7 x64 (e.g. Build 7057):
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...OSs=150&OSFullName=Windows Vista* 64&lang=eng

Enables disk caching, better disk performance and also fixes WEI score issue.

Also let Windows 7 x64 7057 install the latest NVIDIA WDDM 1.1 driver 181.71 for the 8800M GTS: 8.15.11.8171 - 26/02/2009.

 

thank you for the advice but the IT guy from HP asked me to do a clear all on hard drive with something like hdpart, so I have nothing left on my hard drive now.

 

it is a HD DVD Rom. How can I get the DVD of Vista Ultimate(from HP or Microsoft ?).

 

They get back to me and of course they said that as my computer is not under warranty anymore(since 3 month), they can send me a free DVD set but I will have to pay for the shipping($16). I did it and decided to stop using and buying HP product as much as I can.

 

Try Windows 7 Ultimate x64 FREE - The RC1 iso will soon be available from Microsoft and won't expire until March 2010. Currently you can find RC0.9 (aka Build 7057) from many sources with same expiry date. For drivers, see your HP HDX page, but only use the newest Intel Matrix Storage Manager driver released 3/13/09 - link above.

You may also wish to consider a touch screen (pen-only) mod--this model covers screens up to 22": http://www.penandfree.co.kr/english/products/duo_monitor.asp

 

Kindheart, consider not shamelessly promoting the touchscreen add-on as it's against forum rules to advertise a product in such a manner.

 

Yeah, I don't blame you. That's a raw deal all things considered.

Maybe you should make one more attempt but his time escalate your issue to reclaim the $16. Express to HP that you only paid the $16 because you needed your computer up and running ASAP. But the only reason you had to pay for it is because of all the bad advice (like repartitioning you HDD as per an HP tech's instructions which caused the loss of the recovery partition) and because HP sent you faulty recovery media. Also state that the backup discs you made failed to work also. That's a fault of HP.

But if you'd rather not go further and just move on, that's understandable too. You shouldn't have to "pull teeth" to get your just due.

 

Hi Lord High Lo-Fi, no advertising intended; it's a friendly advice. I don't sell them or make any profit out of them. Have you tried one of them yourself and found anything to the contrary?

 

It really is annoying. The first time was not bad and the second time tolerable. But you just keep pushing it every time you post. I been thinking of saying something myself just did not want to give it more attention.

 

LOL. No I haven't. But I stayed at a Holiday Inn.

Seriously though, your inclusion of this "friendly advice" is nether apropos to the subject or post you are addressing nor in any way helpful. That's what makes it shameless promotion. You've been helpful in other ways that's why I let you know you should stop - lest the admins ban you for it. Would be a shame to lose a contributor to this thread.

In any event, I took a look at it the first time you posted the link. It doesn't look all the practical or ergonomic considering the size of the screen. I own a tablet with a screen protector on it and it gets quite dirty from use rather quickly. Couldn't imagine sullying up the HDX's screen with hand oil. There are 7 deadly sins. That would be the 8th.

 

Well, it didn't solve the problem, but I did notice a little improvement - I'll take all I can get. Is there a way to maintain this without having Blu-Ray running?

 

It doesn't make any difference if you sell them or profit from them or not - the fact is you're plugging them, which is against Forum Regs. If you want to push a piece of junk, find a thread where people who don't know what junk is and annoy them. Your tablet is a piece of crap compared to any Wacom tablet in existence. I'm sure it'll probably be a proud flagship product of Telebrands at some point in the near future.

What 2.0 means is that if you can't refrain from hawking your junk on this thread, we'll kindly and politely have our Moderator friends use their tablets to nix your sorry butt off of our thread along with your worthless junk advertising.

Professionals know a piece of garbage when they see it - since we're all professionals here, we can only assume that you're a full-time garbage-man - excuse me, "Refuse Engineer" - since those of us who use tablets only use the best, and that sorry piece of junk ain't part of our toolset, nor is it ever likely to be in the near or distant future.

Get a life.

 

If you are not helped, it is also not the cause of your problem.
To be completely ruled out but you can set the pace of the 8800m GTS 500 MHz to temporarily lay down. (Energy saving mode off)

To this must be a registry value is changed. (Press the "window" key + R. This will leek a command window. Type (regedit) then press OK)

"\ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ Video \ (* a series of numbers that are different *) \ 0000 \ PerfLevelSrc"

Change the value of "PerfLevelSrc" from "3333" to "3322"!

Now you must restart the PC!

Note: This change fixed the video card clock "in the network operating at 500 MHz. (GPU idle temperatures rising, but that's ok)

In battery mode, the 8800m GTS with 383 MHz max. (Depending on request from 200 MHz to 383 MHz)
To also here to fix the clock, the RegistryDwords of "3322" to "2222" should be amended.

PerfLevelSrc 3333 = Powermizer on for battery + network -->Idle temp.42C at 22C ambient temp. (fan remains in the normal stages)
PerfLevelSrc 3322 = Powermizer for battery on and off for network -->Idle temp.(without underclock Tools with ESA) on 54C at 22C ambient temp. (generally in fan stage two)
PerfLevelSrc 2233 = Powermizer off for battery and on for network -->Limited battery life!
PerfLevelSrc 2222 = Powermizer off for battery + network -->Limited battery life!

Powermizer = powersave from Nvidia

Attention: Please do not use "PowerMizer Switch"! This tool includes RegistryDwords changes, which are drivers for the 8800m GTS not available!

Here I have an information site in English for you. (for better readability) where the other RegDwords please ignore!
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=261929

Go but strictly according to my instructions!


If your game is not better, then put these values back. When reinstalling a driver, incidentally, they are automatically set to "3333" and would have needed to manually re-set to "3322" should be amended. In my other posts on this page you can see what it still is connected and how a solid bar can be lowered.

My setting: PerfLevelSrc = "3322"

Setting the clock in normal operation (for example when read on the Internet) and in my pre-cycle at Windows start:
215 / 110 * / 465 this represents a real stroke of:
232.2 / 110.25 / 499.5 -------> Idle temperature 48 C at 22 C ambient temperature (fan remains in the normal stages)

Setting the clock in the game mode:
600/870/1300 this represents a real stroke of:
648/864/1404 (this is not a maximum value)

* Memory Clock to 199 MHz under to get the "NSU" files of ESA tools manually rewrite.

Changes after this information at your own risk and without my liability.

 

I've just install nvidia 179.32 driver.
Should I install also physx driver ?

 

Go for it. It doesn't decrease performance when on. Not many games use it, but the ones that do, it adds a little something special.

 

Hi guys before I headed out to do more errands if anyone else was interested in getting a set of the GSkill 4GB memory modules=8GBs in all for your HDX or whatever newer laptop, my friend from Australia has an extra set out of the ones that other have put an order for. These are the ones that NewEgg used to sell which last were priced at $199 each, but will be sold for $160 each. PM me if you're interested otherwise it will go to Fleabay for a lot more than $160.

Also if you're looking to get a brand new HDX we think we found a place in Australia that has them brand new apparently so if you're interested in that PM me as well and I can give you any updates on if we'll go that route. If this is not allowed in the forum let me know and I can delete it. I also apologize in advance. Thanks.

 

Thanks for your help, but I gave up with HP. And I prefer to waste the $16 instead of having to deal with this company again. The time I may spend with them doesn't worth the money.

 

I play only cod4

 

I have read all of problems and can really understand your frustration. I was having issues with HP so called tech support. Needless to say they could never get any of my issues resolved. 2.0 was more help than anyone at HP. All said and done, after hours on the phone I got to end of the ladder, HP Conflicts Resolution. This is the best way to get anything done. This is not Tech Support, but they can provide you with compensation. The number 1-866-217-6014. They ended of giving me an extended warranty.

 

Aside from reiterating my earlier post about your stupid garbage tablet, I'll go 2.0's earlier post even further and ask that you just shut up. Your "advice" is amateur at best, and when added to your junk advertising you're just making a complete and total a$$ of yourself. In a room full of professionals, you definitely don't fit the mold. Professional huckster and part-time BDt, yes - anything of value, not likely. The only reason I mention it is that those people with actual problems or who can provide meaningful responses could use the space you're wasting.

ed DeVry graduates are everywhere these days....

 

I doubt you had a careful look at it. Unfortunately it doesn't allow people to use their (oily) fingers at all. It needs and works only with its own special pen. Its advantage over an external Wacom tablet is that you see (immediate visual feedback) where you are writing or pointing--the line you draw appears immediately below your pen on-screen. External tablets involve lots of mental coordination esp. with small tablet vs. screen resolution size, and are not that natural.

 

I agree about the external tablets like a Wacom Bamboo or Intuous. Takes a little getting used to. But the Cintiq's are a dream. A tablet PC is just as good perhaps even better.

However though, re-examining the tablet in question (in case I might have missed something considering that you're unsure about whether or not I actually looked at the site), reaffirming my initial assessment, it appears that one would smudge the screen since they would invariably rest their palm on the screen when writing just as one does with any tablet. The ergonomics would be something similar to a chalkboard only unlike a chalkboard, you would have to extend your arm fully to write using this device. What's more, it seems the pen tip would eventually mar/scratch an unprotected screen.

IMO, having used a real tablet and currently owning one, without the ability to use a tablet horizontally (flatly), as you would most any writing surface, the ergonomics are very awkward/unnatural and not recommended due to shoulder, trap and neck strain sure to follow from using this device.

No worries, I think HP's touch smart PC's (which are not tablets), are a bad idea on two fronts. Smugdes from hands and having to extend your arm to interact with the screen.

 

Nope. No palm rest. This is not a proper tablet mod. It works similar to this netbook mod, but unlike the netbook mod which uses a 4-wire resistive single-touch screen (allowing fingers to be used), the penandfree one cannot respond to fingers or pressure:
http://netbookmag.com/2009/03/04/video-msi-wind-advent-4211-touchscreen-installed/
In the above mod, the netbook hasn't been converted to a tablet, but is still very usable with the pen (without touching/smearing the screen).

Penandfree video--note how they are drawing without touching the screen with fingers or resting their palms on it:
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/-/1421970114

Of course HP's latest TX2 multi-touch (IR) tablet is ways better; multi-touch offers many new possibilities in Windows 7 not available with single-touch technologies.

 

It appears you haven't used a tablet before. You WILL rest your palm on the screen to write at some point. It's a natural instinct to do so. I'm not talking about using fingers. That's touch sensitivity - something which I DISABLED on my tablet PC since it can interfere with inking in Onenote (and other programs) as my palm resting when I write registers as a touch input.

Lastly, as I said prior, using it on the HDX would be very awkward and frankly a PITA. Why? Think about it. The screen setback forces you to extend your arm and hold it up in mid-air to write. What's more, the buttons on the pen will make you hold the pen in a manner which will compel you to rest at a minimum, your pinky finger on the screen. The desire for inking accuracy and the burn in your shoulder and trapezoid muscles from having to extend your arm to write will also compel you to rest your hand on the screen.

Easy way to settle it: Try inking on a tablet PC in tablet mode (flat mode) and PC mode (screen up) and tell me which mode you prefer and feels most comfortable and natural. The answer should be obvious. And that's all I'll say on the subject since it's not really related to the thread.

You know, you can start a thread about it in the hardware section if you haven't already done so. You have to do it a manner that says something to the effect of "hey look what I found" or "anyone use this? Any reviews/opinions?" Be subtle about it and it won't be construed as a sales pitch. And it will be in keeping with forum rules.

 

You haven't made the switch to COD5 yet???

Some people just wish to remain in the dark their whole lives...

 

Has the audio driver situation for XP changed at all for the last couple months?

 

You mean a driver that utilizes the subwoofer? I haven't read about anything on that front. Likely a lost cause.

 

It doesn't utilize Physx.

Here's a list of games that do: http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_physxgames_home.html

I have a number of games on the list with Age Of Empires III being my favorite game that takes advantage of Physx.

For a real treat, you ought to give Crysis and Crysis Warhead a try if you like COD4. A lot of fun, good story line and runs great on the 8800M GTS. I average > 26FPS with a mix of High and Medium settings on a WSXGA+.

 

My bezel came in today! I am actually impressed, HP included the all the rubber screw plugs and the 2 stickers. I thought I was going to have to reuse those. It all fit together perfectly. It only took about 15min.

Here are some pics:

Still in the packaging:



Out of bubble wrap:



Stickers:



Rubber screw covers:





Even came with the dust covers for the speakers:



Here it is reinstalled:

 

Nice pics and a job well done!

 

Sweet. Nice job man! I think I'm too scared to do anything like that.

 

I found some Vista Anytime 32bit upgrades..but it came with a desktop PC, unused would this still work? Also would used or unused matter at all? Thanks man.

 

Wouldn't matter either way since you don't need a license. Use ABR or the product code on the bottom of your notebook to install. Lemme know if you run into any issues.

 

Hi Guys,

I'm needing a little help with my eSATA efforts.
Being a total eSATA n00b I thought I'd better buy a drive and try this much m00ted 3Gb/s transfer speed.
Today arrived a shiny new Seagate FreeAgent Pro 1TB external drive.
After some fiddling and benchmarking I can't seem to get the data transfer up to even 50MB/s, never mind the 300MB/s max.

Am I doing something blindingly obvious wrong?

Also, with the (fleabay bought) eSATA cable connected, my Dragon has frozen up to the point where I've needed to do 2 hard resets, which I really don't like doing.

Any pointers?

TIA

CJ

 

2 Things maybe:

1. Bad cable, i.e., poor shielding. Also, how long is it? You want to stay under 3ft for best performance and less signal loss.

2. Control panel\device manager\ under disk drives find the eSATA drive and right click for properties. Then click the policies tab. Try enabling "optimize for performance. If you go with this and it works for you, you will need to click the USB icon that will pop up in your tray to disconnect the drive before pulling out the cable.

 

Thanks for the advice "two". I suspect the cable has something to do with it and I will buy an expensive one to try. It is a 1m cable BTW.
As for drivers for the eSATA port. Are there any newer ones, or just the stock ones?

CJ

 

There's one on Microsoft Update that works well. Dated 2/9/09 ver 1.5.20.0

 

I'm just thinking about stability. I'm trying to get asio4all to work under Vista, but there's a lot of static on the signal when I activate it. Recordings are useless because of the background noise. I'm thinking of trying to install XP just to see if that would work better.

 

Forget about asio4all . You don't hear a difference when you play music. Asio is worth installing if you are using a sound card natively supporting this driver. You can easily use WASAPI.

 

ASIO isn't about playback quality, it's for throughput latency. WDM/WASAPI don't work with STAC9271 at all, and there's definately no native ASIO support. That's why ASIO4All was created. It runs fine, just the inputs have issues for me right now.

 

Thanks a lot 2.0. Much abbreeshciated.

 

Powermizer problem

When I used stock driver I had no problem. Powermizer worked perfect.
during game on battery gpu saved power and I've never seen more then 57 celcius deg on gpu.
When I played on AC I could run on full speed 500/800. Temperature was about 70 cel. deg. And everything was just fine.

I did a clean install of vista and installed 179.32 nvidia driver.
And now when I play cod4 on AC, gpu never reaches 500/800. Temps are about 57-59 cel.deg.
I tried everything in power options. Set on maximum power but no good results.
What I can do?