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    *HP HDX DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 1*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by J-Bytes, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. Dominick_7

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    Haha uh yea that's what I'm wondering :) I guess a question could be does the GPU prohibit certain protected video ala HDMI?



    I want to take advantage of the instant rebate..but don't want them discontinuing on me like they did with the HDX.. The machine looks super sweet from everything I've seen. So you have Windows Home Server 2008 w sp3?



    May?? HP sucks.. I wish people would stop buying stupid Netbooks with crappy specs so the market shows DTR are something to invest into.. This will likely come though after everyone goes blind from looking at a 10-12 inch screen haha.
     
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    Nice! I'll be sure to mess around with that once I can get a nice deal on Windows 7 hopefully full retail and not OEM.
     
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    Hi,

    I was the one with the CPU fan running high all the time. Opening the baby and to clean it really helped. So thanks alot again to all of you for helping and giving the right advice dv7t!

    This is really a great forum and is good to know that there are people, using the same machine and that will help you with any problem.

    After reading so many posts, I am starting to think about an HDD upgrade.

    Have a nice day
     
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    so how dusty/dirty did it actually look when you opened it? can you describe? just curious what visible amount caused that for you.
     
  5. dermsh

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    As the Dragon is usally standing on my desk, I didn't expect the cooling system to be dirty.

    It was not so much dirt inside, but really visible at the cooling fins. But nothing compared to my former notebook, which I often used in bed (students life at university) and which I had to clean about three times a year (but it was easier to reach).

    As I recently changed to Win7, I thought Microsoft is responsible ;-)
     
  6. dermsh

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    Fot an HDD upgrade, the Seagate Momentus ST9500420AS 7200.4 - 500GB 7200rpm 16MB 2.5zoll SATA300 seems to be a perfect choose. Top performance in a lot of tests.
    And just to be sure that I understand the one of the recent posts right: I can just change one of the HDD and keep the other one inside? How do I know, which HDD (left/right) is which in my system (C/D)?
     
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    Yes, you can replace one and not the other. They don't need to match.

    When you open it up, there are numbers imprinted on the chassis which designate the drives. Drive 1 = C:
     
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    The GPU is HDCP compliant.

    They are guaranteed to discontinue it. Rare for an HP product to have longer than a 2-3 year life cycle.

    No, I don't have a home server. Just a DVR with an external drive.


    Large DTR have been and will always be a commercial failure. When folks think big, they think desktops or AIO's. A large laptop has become an oxymoron.
     
  9. Dominick_7

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    I have them and they work fine. I got the Shock Protection ones. If you flip it upside down, where the Hard Drives are on top, I BELIEVE the OS is in the left side.. but I could be wrong. Haven't opened it in a while. You can test it out..take the right one out and if the OS still boots then I was right.. if nothing comes up then I was wrong?
     
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    SWEET! Thanks!


    Yea I figured they will certainly discontinue it, but I was wondering when. I believe they came out just recently in 2009..but I figure the discounts would be a lot more than $50 if they were close to discontinuing it. Ah ok cool. Your DVR works with an external drive? Which one do you have? You have Verizon right?


    It's too bad really.
     
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    For christmas we just bought an Acer Aspire Timeline 14,1' with 3G (so the opposite to the dragon). I think I will wait a few weeks and than change over the personal data HDD.

    Thanks for all your help and advices!!!
     
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    Hey, all ... been a number of months since I posted, but I've been faithfully lurking and learning.

    Question: I'm converting my vinyl album collection to digital, and while I've pretty much settled on how to bring the signal from the phono table into a simple two-channel mixer, I'm stumped as to how to get that feed into the Dragon. I noticed some folks using desktops use a line-in jack to bring the feed in; and the Dragon has a "TV audio line-in jack." What I'm not so sure is whether or not this would work. The article I read made this sound like a desktop-only fix, is that right? Or would the "TV audio line-in jack" work?

    Other people have said use an RCA-out to USB-in to bring the signal in, but these cables are fairly expensive.

    Any ideas or place of knowledge you can direct me? I've spent two hours this afternoon trying to find a solution and am fogging over.

    Any help is mucho appreciado!

    DocEye
    SLC, UT

    P.S. And I found my first dead pixel after sixteen months of ownership. I know it sounds anal, but man I'm pissed. And no, apps like UDPixel don't fix a problem like this, just stuck pixels.
     
  13. Dominick_7

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    How does one tell the difference between a retail and OEM Windows 7 if it's factory sealed and kinda looks like retail but comes from Microsoft but isn't sold in stores?
     
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    If it's not dead but stuck (has a color to it and isn't black), UDPixel can fix it! I've had ONE stuck pixel since I got the HDX, and FINALLY decided to try UDPixel, again. I tried it before but for not very long and didn't feel like seriously fixing it..but recently I decided to resolve it and this time I left it on for a whole week..and AMAZINGLY thank GOD it fixed it! For good! If you set it there, after each reboot it will automatically come back to the same place to put the UDPixel fix back on top of the stuck pixel. One time when it came back on after a reboot it made the screen look a little weird in one spot, then after a few seconds, the stuck pixel was GONE! Like I said, I had to leave it on a whole week or so but I can say from experience it WORKED! I was very surprised it did. If it's truly a dead pixel I'm sorry to hear that. If it's in warranty still I believe HP only replaces it if it has 3 dead pixels, but you could also replace the LCD yourself by buying the part if it bothered you that much and UDPixel couldn't fix it. Apart from that UDPixel SAYS it can fix dead pixels so it would be worth a try I'd think.
     
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    Yes, you can install win7 x32 on the HDX.
     
  17. Doc Eye

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    Dom7,

    Thanks, but the pixel is indeed black, meaning it's dead, not stuck. I let UDPixel run for over ten hours and nada. The pixel, she is dead.

    And no one has any input on my question from above? (#9063)

    Take care,

    DocEye
     
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    Hey All,

    I'm having issues with my optical drive. It occasionally will ignore an inserted dvd (software or movie). and if it does acknowledge the disk it sometimes shows it as a blank disk. Im trying to install Autodesk Inventor and my HDX thinks disk #1 out of 3 is blank. I confirmed there is software on disk #1 on a separate computer. The HDX sees the software on disk #2 and #3 though.
    Anyways, other examples would be inserting a movie and nothing happening with no sign of a disk present. Tried for an hour looking for a driver or firmware for the drive with no luck. My drive is a Mats*ita BD-CMB UJ-120 Blu Ray Drive.

    (I think a foul language monitor is taking offense to the manufacturer's name and auto editing four letters out of the middle of Matsh*ta, thats what the * are about)

    Any Thoughts?
     
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    A USB audio adapter coupled with recording/editing software like audacity is the best solution. With audacity, you can edit out unwanted parts. You can fade/crossfade. Etc. I used it before to get some classic LPs onto CDs and into MP3 format. But that was on a computer that had a line in, unlike the HDX.

    In any event, a device such as this is what you are looking for: http://www.dak.com/reviews/2086story.cfm

    Or a USB sound card with line in off ebay. Most of them have 3.5 mm jacks so you'll need a 3.5 mini stereo to RCA converter plug/cable.

    While it is possible to use the TV audio in jack and record without a video input using Quickplay, (I've used to jack to record S-video + audio from a VCR tape) the audio quality is pretty poor. Plus you'll have to convert the file to an audio format by extracting just the audio portion.

    You likely won't be able to use the stereo mic input in the front either as the impedance is all wrong. Haven't tried it though. You might have a preamp that can adjust the level of the output that is fed into the mic input whihc might yield a somewhat acceptable sound. But expect noise with this approach.
     
  20. JuanE

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    Hmm... I guess I'll have to write my problem off as hardware failure. The drive still reads CDs and DVDs, but Blu-rays are a definite NO from now on... :( . What replacement drive would you recommend? Just in case I decide to change it later... :rolleyes:
     
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    Anybody have any experience with Samsung 4GB PC2-5300 SODIMM chips for the Dragon? Is there anything faster or better that Ican use? Many Thanks People,....David
     
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    Pretty much, when it comes to laptops, RAM is RAM. Faster RAM will go completely unnoticed as the gain would be 0-2% at best.

    So as long as the RAM is compatible, it's all good.
     
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    2.0,

    Thanks for the input (pun intended). Glad I was on the right track, that TV audio line-in jack just struck me as a wee skeevy way to do this. I've got an old P4 with a great Sound Blaster on-board, guess I'll just pull the vinyl in through that using Audacity (great freakin' product by the way) and then tweak the result there.

    Thanks again mang.

    DocEye
     
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    I used to try it for many hours, as you did but it did nothing. Others and myself have tried it and many find it works after a week.. as I edited above, UDPixel SAYS it can work on DEAD pixels, so it might be worth a try. Give it one full week, if it's still there, then you can move on to other solutions knowing it did nothing for the problem. BTW use the method where you perfectly line up the spec UDPixel dot (that flashes all the colors) on top of the dead pixel, and leave it there with UDPixel program remaining on the desktop the whole time.
     
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    Dom7,

    I've lined that teeny bullseye thingy up directly over the dead pixel and it's not doing it. Maybe you're right about more time, but I'm a little worried running all the surrounding pixels that fast for that long will only cause more of them to fail. I don't have empirical evidence to support that, but it just stands to reason to me that it would.

    I've noticed that if I do let UDP run for hours it tends to reshape the dead pixel area ever so slightly. So maybe there's something to what you say.

    I'll give it a shot and report back in a week or so.

    Thanks for your input.

    Long live the Dragon.

    DocEye
     
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    if nothing else, maybe running it will "massage" all the other pixels so that will not happen. just a thought. i have no clue.
     
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    Yea that's a good way of saying it..it looks like it reshapes it, all I know is it looked discolored and mutated for a second in one other spot and then poof the stuck pixel was gone. What I ALSO did as DV7 suggested is massage the screen, going horizontally, then vertically with my thumb and or index finger and in different angles in between on top of UD Pixel that is running on top of the dead/stuck pixel. I think if you do the spec with the crosshairs as you stated just on top of the dead pixel I think it should be fine and not effect the other parts of the screen..its the one that flashes the entire screen or when using the bigger square shape as opposed to the spec that I believe can lead to problems. Some people talk about letting UDPixel run for weeks and even saw at least one person do it for a month at one forum and it fixed the pixel. What I WOULD NOT suggest is using a pen or anything with a point through a piece of cloth like it's suggested to pop the bubble so to speak. You can scratch or damage your screen. Hope it works for you and yes long live the Dragon :) Coolbeans, I feel like I'm in Narnia or something haha.
     
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    Dom/Dv7t,

    Thanks for the input. I got a high-powered magnifying glass out and took a peek and it seems that because of the high rez the Dragon runs at, that what initially appeared to be a single dead pixel is actually a chain of three to five of them. The mag glass really lets you see into the screen and count those individual pesky pixels. So now I'm even more pissed.

    Oh, well ... I'll give at a week (or more) with UDP and see what happens. I tried the massaging thing, and just then my GF walked in and in a very matter of fact tone said, "I thought you promised not to go out to those kinds of sites anymore." And then walked out in a huff.

    For the life of me I don't know what she's talking about.

    Best,

    Doc Eye
     
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    Hi people, I've tryed to find an answer here but simply can't.

    I've recently upgraded my hdx9200eo ( Windows ultimate 64 bit, 2.2 ghz, 2gig ram), to sp1 and then sp2. With both when I try to broadcast to ustream, or should I say run mreplay or any virtual webcam etc, my mouse flickers like crazy and if I actually start the broadcast with the flickering, My system locksup/crashes. I wouldn't be surprised if the answers are here somewhere but so many pages and picking the right search string isn't the easiest thing. Anyone have any idea?



    ps. I only have 2 gig of fam but find it hard to believe that's the issue. If it is, does anyone know exactly which ram I need to get up to 4? I really love this notebook but some of the quirks (beyond the buttons) do get to me at times.

    pss. if someone can point to more resources for this notebook other than hp.com, I'd apreciate it.

    Thanks
     
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    Likely could be that you need more RAM. Newegg, zipzoomfly, crucial all have the RAM you need.

    200 pin DDR2 PC-5300 SODIMM 667mhz.

    Get a 4GB kit (2GB x 2). Should cost ou under $100 shipped.

    No one in this thread has had the issue you describe IIRC. Most have 3GB to 8GB of RAM.
     
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    hi all,

    just wondering, for those that have cleaned their fans, did you notice if it looked replaceable by something remotely off-the-shelf?

    my cpu fan seems to have a little extra "tone" to it so I'm wondering what the chances are it can be replaced.

    thanx, Cliff
     
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    They are replaceable. Though they are not generic.

    Google part numbers for vendors and prices:

    448163-001 Video board Fan
    448162-001 Processor Fan

    HP parts should also have them.
     
  33. Dominick_7

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    If the UDPixel spec covers all of them then I think it's worth trying to see if it works. If not, and there are 3 dead pixels and its under warranty I think HP would replace it..or you could pay for an extended warranty up to two year..or you could just pay them to do the repair if this doesn't work and it's not under warranty and you don't want one. I can't remember how many dead pixels you need for them to replace it but I believe it's 3.

    Haha.. I don't know that I even want to ask what that's about.
     
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    From my experience, the MINIMUM I think to use Vista is 4GBs of ram.. and that can suck depending on what you're doing. You can get 8GBs GSkills from NewEgg by buying them individually (which I THINK is more affordable) or together as a set. Otherwise 4GBs should resolve this I believe.


    EDIT: 2.0 beat me to it. Good user name btw :) I was named after my uncle Domingo.
     
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    Well, Dom ... you may be on to something here, buddy boy. After just 24 hours running UDP my previously coal black three to five dead pixels are now all half a shade lighter, more like a 30% gray. If this keeps up I should have these pixels popping purty pretty promptly.

    I'll report back soon and if this works I'll have to shoot the UDP people a nice donation.

    And sorry if my last post offended anyone, I really have no need to frequent, ahem, men's sites.

    My girlfriend made me put in that last part.

    Ouch!

    Best,

    Doc Eye
    SLC, UT
    (Currently 15 F and falling. Damn I hate Winter.)
     
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    Awesome dood! I want to donate to UDPIxel as well when I find I can do so. I was expecting to have to pay another 300-400 for another WUXGA screen because of the stupid thing.. but I read more up on it and did it properly. I'm VERY glad I did because while I can't seem to believe it STILL thank GOD there is NOTHING wrong with my screen at all. The only thing I really need to replace is the front touch pad area because of scratches to the paint on it, which is just superficial cosmetic issue that won't cost NEARLY as much. Yea let us know if it gets rid of them entirely. UDPixel will rule if so, and I'll be sure to post a blog or two about it. Lol you/your girlfriend has/have a good sense of humor. I don't go to those sites, and I probably shouldn't be laughing but I can't help it.. the massaging comment opened it up I think, so it's DV7s and I guess my fault too.. but mostly hers :) Lol.
     
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    Thank you very much, these little guys go for $52 each!

    I'll wait until maybe it becomes worth while to use the 3 yr extended warranty I put on this or maybe some kinda coupon thing shows up.
     
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    Bought the ram (Best Buy, more expensive, but I'm not patient), bad news is mouse is still flickering, good news is I'm able to broadcast again. So I have to think sp1 and sp2 screwed something up and the extra ram is just helping me get around it. If I were to guess it would be one of the MS drivers they sort of forced me to d/l before they would let me upgrade to sp1.

    thanks
     
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    I don't know that it was the minimum as it came with ultimate 64 and 2 gig and frankly was running ok until I went to sp1, now maybe 4 gig is what you need with sp1 and sp2 but I'm not sure about that. Frankly I would tend to believe that as although I'm still getting flickering when trying to broadcast, my system is running a little happier now in general it seems.

    Ironicly enough, your name is closer to my real name and Domingo is what my Latin American (friends/family) call me.

    Thanks
     
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    Yea I think you're right. I had sp1 come with it ctod. Once I installed my antivirus and firewall though, it went down hill a bit even with 4GBs. Haha well oh be kay bees Dominique or Dominiche :) Todos bueno.
     
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    Has anyone optained, installed , and used the new Intel n6300 Wi-fi adapter? Opinions please? Thanks, David
     
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    I believe I saw at Cnet in the review that it only works with processors from 2010 that are cleared to work with it as well as an HD GPU. It would be super cool if it did though. Anyone think otherwise? Maybe I'm just off on even what this is..
     
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    advantages over the 5300?? or 5100? what would they be?
     
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    Processor and GPU would have no bearing. Only thing that matters as the form factor and Mini-PCIe specs. That said, yes it would work in the HDX. But it's a half height card and not a full length version so you can't screw it down.

    The advantage of the 6300 is that it does multistream. But I believe you'd need a router with the same capability. It also has lower power consumption.
     
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    Half-height?? WTH man. It's hard enough to get the damn full-height card in there lol

    As for multi-stream, is that where it will actually connect to more than one signal as a time?? I have no idea, hence why I am asking so forgive my ignorance on it. Thanks 2.0
     
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    Basically, multistream is 3x3 MIMO using spatial streams. Meaning, it uses 3 streams (antennas) to transmit and receive data up to 450mbits/sec.

    The 5300 can do the same thing apparently. Has 3x3 MIMO. Though not certified multistream. I just haven't tested it out since I don't have a 3x3 MIMO router yet.

    So I guess, the only advantage really is the supposed lower power consumption.
     
  48. Dominick_7

    Dominick_7 Notebook Deity

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    I confused products I think. What does "multistreaming" mean/do exactly? EDIT: So multistreaming means you can get greater or faster streaming, more data to move per second? Lol Jiminey Crickets..I'm just NOW trying to get a working 5300 adapter.
     
  49. lucasmaximus

    lucasmaximus Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi i want to increase my memory from 4gb to 8gb on my HP HDX 9300 so I can run more applications at once.

    Can anybody advise me if this is possible and if so which memory sticks should I be looking at?

    Specs of laptop are below...

    HP Pavilion HDX9300
    Vista 64-bit SP2 (Will soon be upgrading to windows 7 64 bit ultimate)
    Intel Core Duo CPU T9300 2.5GHz
    400GB Hard Drive (2x 200GB 7200rpm)
    4GB ram (2x 2GB SODIMM)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS
    Blue Ray DVD Drive

    Hope this helps! Any info would be much appreciated!

    Lucas
     
  50. RemyL75

    RemyL75 Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, it is possible and you will need This.
    You can also buy them in single sets, but they will cost 20 bucks more in the long run, so the best bet is to buy the kit. I hope this helps.
     
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