*HP HDX DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 1*

It's too bad. I have a 64 bit program and would like to test it and see if I gain any performance in comparison to a 32 bit one.
Thanks anyway.

 

Were you able to take it as a carry on?

 

I take my HP HDX to school and back to home every day (except saturday and sunday).
I've got the Dicota MultiGiant

 

Hi, gents (and ladies)!
A newbie again, this time - from Russia, so you will have to pardon my blood-chilling English.

A discontinuance of Dragon has been as unexprected for me, as for most of you here. But I have managed to acquire The Item!!! at the Ebay:
ttp://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HP-HDX-20-1-2-5-GHz-T9300-512MB-8800M-GTS-Blu-Ray_W0QQitemZ290265240182QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item290265240182&_trkparms=72%3A1205|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
(it still stays with a friend of mine in the US, awaiting some opportunity to be transported to Russia).
Now that I've digested more than 400 pages, I am more than perplexed by the seller's option (pls follow the link above):
"OPTIONAL OS: Vista Ultimate 64 bit with XP Home or Professional ( Dual Boot configuration)"

Is this some kind of a practical joke?

From what I've read in this thread, all brillant minds here are still trying to solve the problem of all relevant drivers with XP?
Or, otherwise, what does that promise of a seller may mean pragmatic-wise?

Thanks in advance.

 

Yikes! That is a very expensive HDX! Interestingly, I bought EXACTLY the same configuration (even the 120GB 7200RPM x 2), but used on ebay 2 weeks ago for $1850. Your's is new, but i'm not sure $1200 is worth the priviledge of being the first to open the box!

Personally, I wouldn't cripple such a nice machine with XP. Too much cool technology that XP drivers just don't exist for.

 

I would assume it should work with exception to at very least the bass.. though I also haven't seen any one try doing 64 XP. I'm debating on whether to do a dual boot XP Pro or just Virtual Machine it.. that is when I get one..

 

Hello all, i'm trying to overclock my T8300 Core 2 Duo. I've tried with CrystalCPUID, but i can't get it past the 2.4Ghz . Fact is that i can underclock it to 2 Ghz and some other Ghz too.
Anyone know if it is possible?
Greetz

 

As far as I'm aware T8300 has 2.4Ghz nominal speed thus you don't even started to overclock But to be serious you can underclock the CPU as it is it's feature called SpeedStep. We've have contacted the author of setfsb tool to check if the processor can be overclocked in HDX laptop and unfortunately it cannot. Even xtreme versions of Intel CPU can't be

 

HP SUCKS for not making their notebooks overclockable
But sometimes my T8300 goes to multiplier 13, which equals a 2.59Ghz.
So is that also the Speedstep software that does that?

BTW, for the people who are interested about getting a 9800M GTX in the HP HDX.
I've got a mail from HP in which they say the upgrade is possible because the 8800M GTS and 9800M GTX have the same format.
Greetz

 

lancorp

So you'd rather presume this "dual boot" feature is most likely zilch? I.e., even if it boots from 2-nd HDD to XP, it won't function properly to the full extent?

Dominick_7

I remember choosing ""Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit with XP Pro 32 bit Dual Boot (+$180.00)" option for this dual boot feature.

 

Well, I guess it depends on WHY you chose and paid extra for the ability to run XP anyways? Is there a reason you want to run XP?

I do believe there is hardware on this HDX that there are no drivers for. You might search around here and look what others have discovered.

Personally, Vista 64 is awesome and on a multimedia beast like this, I have no desire to go back to XP.

 

I have a device called DVDXpress that only uses XP, and a couple other softwares as well..besides, while I DO like Vista w 4GB or+ or ram, I also still like XP as well. The only thing I remember not working was bass, but there could have been other things I don't recall as well. As a side note. I believe I saw you were selling a 2.5GB HDX..if you ever used it as opposed to just buying it in order to sell it did you notice any difference between the 2.8ghz and 2.5?

 

lancorp

Not especially, except that I'm overly conservative, and finally "disembarked" from Win95 to Win98 well in late 2002...
Sort of, as CyberVisions uses to repeat, "if it ain't broke - don't break it."

So, you're pessimistic about alleged secret breakthrough with full XP functionality? That's what I was afraid of...

Personally, any first WinOS that manages to boot skipping black DOS-like screens with mysterious symbols directly to GUI (the way MacOS does), - MAY become awesome, but not until then, I apprehend.

 

I am on my 2nd 2.5Ghz HDX since I sold the first one and had sellers remorse (although, ultimately, I did come out ahead).

I've never had a 2.8 so I cannot compare.

 

BTW, Happy Thanksgivings, all.

 

I second that. Haven't had any problems w Vista 64 and have ZERO need for XP.

 

Yes. Happy Thanksgiving to all Dragonians.

 

Well, we don't celebrate Thanksgiving here, but happy Thanksgiving to all ^^
Greetz

 

but there is 8800m gts not gtx.


BTW please let me know if display (1650x1080) of Dragon suffers from bad pixels?

 

Oops, my mistake xD
It's the 8800M GTS here too, but they said I can replace it with 9800M GTX

Well, i don't have any dead pixels or lazy pixels till now. I have the laptop since 7 months.

Greetz

 

I'm wondering how competent the person was? Send him an e-mail asking for BIOS update saying that you've just replaced 8800GTS with 9800M GTX What is the price of 9800M GTX card btw ?

 

I think the person was quite competent, he even gave me proof that the format of the cards is the same .
I'm not going to ask for a BIOS right now, maybe when I've replaced it xD (whenever that will happen).
The price I don't know . But I've sent an e-mail back to that person with the question where I can get that card as no1 seems to know (searched google, etc.)

Greetz

 

Does anyone know a tv tuner program with more options than quickplay?

I'd like to zoom the picture to cut off the borders, in quickplay there are huge black borders all around the picture

 

He lied via ignorance. Can't be done. HP's MXM is a proprietary MXM format. So unless HP makes a 9800M in their proprietary MXM format and issues a BIOS update to support it, it can't be done.

BUt the 8800M GTS is a very competent and powerful card. If you matched it with the WSXGA+, then you've got about 6-9months before you have to start scaling back resolutions below native and toning down graphic options in games. With some exceptions of course.

But it's always better to buy a new system which matches a more powerful GPU with a more powerful CPU/chipset platform than to upgrade a GPU for nominal gains which will/may be bottlenecked by the bus speed and CPU.

The HDX is not a desktop. Even then, you've got maybe two or three GPU generations before you have to upgrade the motherboard and/or power
supply.

I say all that to say this: don't Guinea the HDX with dreams of mods and upgrades. HP specifically designs their notebook computers so they CAN'T be easily upgraded or overclocked.

cheers.

 

try Windows Media Center? I always use that one

@2.0, Thx for the information
Maybe I'll buy a new desktop system in August next year with a Core i7 Processor. Prices will be lowered by then (i hope).
I know it's not a desktop, I take it to school and back home every day
Greetz

 

I tried Windows Media Center and it has 4 zoom options but the scaling is terrible and it lags really bad.

Does Quickplay have any zoom options? I can't find any.

Quickplay's picture is much nicer than Windows Media Center even unscaled.

I was wondering if anyone has gotten MPC-HC or regular Media Player Classic to read the HDX's TV Tuner. MPC offers an amazing level of control, a custom zoom would be perfect in MPC if only it would read the Tuner.

 

hdx9000 or hdx9200 or Hdx9430 ?

Thanks LANCORP will look at the 9430 , also have come across another model here in the UK £978.21 (was £999 but we've had a VATax reduction ) is this any good for the price ? cheers
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HDX9310
Brand HP
Screen size 20.1 inches
Screen type Bright widescreen
Processor Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor model number T8100
Processor speed 2.1 GHz
Processor bus 800 MHz
Processor cache 3 MB
Memory (RAM) 4096 MB
Storage (hard drive) 320 GB
Storage (hard drive) Type tbc
Operating system tbc
Application software Not included
Shared graphics No
Dedicated graphics GF 8800M GTS512 MB
Optical drive tbc
Lightscribe technology No
S-Video output No
VGA output No
HDMI output No
Built-in wireless networking Yes - 802.11b/g
Wired networking Not featured
Gigabit LAN Yes
Built-in fingerprint reader No
USB 2.0 slots 4
Firewire 6 pin
Media card slots 5-in-1
Built-in bluetooth Yes
Built-in webcam No
Built-in TV Tuner Yes
Speakers AltecLansing
Battery life tbc
Laptop weight (kg) tbc
Premier Collection No
Other features
Dial-up modem included
Remote control included
44 / 1.3watts :in use/powered-down power consumption
Plays Blu-Ray DVDs
+/- & dual layer DVD recording
1920x1200 screen resolution

 

Hmm I thought you had a 2.8 maybe that was just Cybervision then. Yea I was wondering why you'd sell. So I take that to mean you got the same thing for much cheaper then?

 

yeah, made quite a bit of profit on the original, and bought practically the same thing except with WUXGA at a good deal (after cashback), so ultimately made some money and wound up with a "better" unit.

 

Not a bad unit either. The T8100 is not that much slower than the T9300 in real apps. I have both right now in two HDx's and have done some side-by-side testing. Not sure what the price comes out to in US$, but both would be nice units.

 

Well sweet jack beans, sounds like a good deal. How you liking the WUXGA in comparison to the WSXGA? I think the one you have is the one I'm aiming at getting this week/weekend. The seller sent me pics of the screen and it looks gorgeous. Am trying to buy a few Blue Rays (Black Friday) to play on it just to see what it looks like.

 

Well, let me tell you. There is a definite difference between the screens. I actually have TWO HDX's right now (shhhh...it's a secret), one with WUXGA and one with the standard WSXGA+ (which is what my original one was also, and it what I am used to).

Side-by-side, the WUXGA looks bad compared to the WSXGA+ screen. What I liked about the WSXGA+ panel is that it is a very bright, great color panel. Very vibrant, no color casting (whites are pure white, blues are blue, etc.). The WUXGA panel has a dingy look to it, compared to the WSXGA+. Blues look a little green, whites are dingy, the vibrancy is missing. That is a side-by-side comparison.

Now, most people don't have both, let alone having ever seen the WSXGA+ if they have WUXGA, so they don't know what they're missing. I was able to make some adjustments in the nvidia control panel to the coloring. I put the WSXGA+ HDX away, and just worked on the WUXGA panel for a few days. Now, it looks OK to me. I was going to sell it, because the LCD is the biggest factor, to me, in a notebook. Just as speakers are to a good audio system, the LCD is to a good notebook. But, after using it for a couple of days by itself with nothing to compare to, I think it will be fine.

The only other complaint I have is if you look closely at white text on the screen, it looks like clear type is misadjusted. In other words, there is colored fringes around the text. I tried the clear type tuner, but it didn't do anything. It seems to only affect (mostly) the upper left quadrant of the LCD. Again, I'm probably being too picky, but like I said, I'm very particular when it comes to the LCD display quality.

All in all, I'm keeping the WUXGA model (which has a faster CPU than the WSXGA+ HDX I also have), and will sell the barely-used WSXGA+ model.

Hope this gives you some insight. If you want a great deal on a WSXGA+ HDX let me know!

 

My Dragon has the WSXGA+ (ie 1680x1050). Its one of the best displays I have ever seen. Maybe some of the Mac displays are better, but that is about it.

I work on this thing for 8 hours a day and its easy on the eyes. No regrets whatsoever not having 1920x1200.

 

I didn't fly. She flew back, I continued on the trip, driving.

 

Agreed. It's made by LG. They make some of the best LCD panels I've seen.

I don't use it for that much of a stretch. My main LCD is a Dell 30" on my desktop. But, for play and travel (photos, video, etc)., this WUXGA will work out fine.

 

So, I guess the HP/Live.com 40% off just isn't going to work today? I've been trying off and on all day, and still cannot get in.

 

Many of use have used the Targus case as a carry-on. Make sure you flip it over so the computer is on the bottom side next to the conveyor though - if TSA sees the HP logo, they'll assume (correctly) that it's a notebook case and ask you to take it out, which of course is a PITA.

 

Aside from the PM's we've had about this, I really think you've either got a hosed GPU or a bad display - the problems you're talking about I've just never seen in any display, whether it be desktop, design program, BD playback, WMP playback, anything.

Regardless of what it is, I just think there's something else in the mix causing the problems you're seeing.

 

Have you seen the standard WSXGA+ display in person?

I'm probably making it out worse than it really is, but if you've lived with and used the WSXGA+ screen and then see the WUXGA screen, I think you'd agree it's not as good.

One thing that I think attributes to the overall appearance is the very narrow viewing angle of the WUXGA panel vs. the standard WSXGA+ made my LG.

I'm pretty sure both our WUXGA panels are the same manufacturer, and as I think you said before, the manufacturing process is the same and apart from how we each see the panels, they are virtually identical (ok, maybe I butchered what you said a bit, but that was the jist of it if I remember it correctly).

In any case, as I've said over and over, unless you put the two side-by-side, you might not notice the difference. If I get a chance, I might try taking a picture of the two side-by-side and see how it looks.

 

The fact that an adjustment (for cleartype) only affected one quadrant of the screen is anomalous for any display.

 

That wasn't what I meant to say. I meant to say that the lack of sharpness of the text (where it looks like true type is misadjusted) is worse in one quadrant of the display, and looks fine in another. Mostly white text on a dark background.

I did try using the clear type tuner to see if I could improve it, but it had no effect.

 

I do understand what you mean. It's just unusual that the text would not be uniform everywhere in the display.

In most of the reviews I read before purchasing the WUXGA display was highly praised, mostly by reviewers who had a frame of reference...those who had previously reviewed the WSXGA.

At any rate, hope you had a good Thanksgiving. I had cold turkey, cold stuffing, and cold mashed potatoes that were mildly improved upon microwaving.

 

This just sounds odd..I've never seen that before nor heard of it. You think it could be the mere contrast between a background color/graphics and the text you're looking at which is different in one part of the background vs another? As an experiment which you probably already did, how does it appear when you change backgrounds, especially ones that have a different focus on what['s going on in the composition from one side to another..that is, try ones that have more stuff going on on the left side, then contrast that with others that have more stuff going on on the right side to see how text looks in comparison to it. Colors opacity and sharpness of the background behind text may make some appear less sharp than others?

 

I agree that sounds weird. Everything I read/heard also gave more highlighted reviews for the WUXGA over the WSXGA (which was treated as normal but not spectacular) which is another reason I had my heart set on one. Off to have some cold left overs myself hope you, lancorp, 2.0, cyber, and the rest of the US HDX peeps had a good Thanksgiving as well.

 

Quick question to anyone: If the specs list "intel 49xx wireless pro" does that let you know if it has AGN WIFI and or Bluetooth or not? From what I recall when the configurations were up on the HDX site the only options were either WIFI BG with no bluetooth OR WIFI AGN WITH Bluetooth..meaning that intel 49xx wireless pro implies that it has AGN AND Bluetooth..am I wrong?

 

I hope someone is still reading this forum

SO basicly I've had my HDX for quite a while now and I love it. It's the real dragon not the new tiny ones they made.

And basicly I can't play games like devial may cry 4 or assians creed or any other new game for that natter because vista doesn't let you control hardware acceleration.

Now I've been told my friends if I got the drivers for my sound card I could use that to force the accerations and thus have voices in my games. (this is very important to me, I like acting in my games)

so does anyone have a fix out side of installing XP, which doesn't help because then I can't use DX10. this is stupid.

Please someone help, tell me there is some sort of sound card or driver or something I can use to force off audio acceleration. I really want to love this computer Can anyone help me out? Has anyone else in this thread brought up this issue? I've looked around in my devices and can't find any cards or sound controllers to speak of. stupid vista.

 

I'm not really clear on what you are asking or what the problem is, but I don't recall anyone here complaining that sound in their games wasn't working...is that an option you can turn on in the game, but the game isn't allowing you to turn it on?

 

Unfortunately my cold repast was not the sequel to a piping hot Thanksgiving meal, but the Thanksgiving meal itself!

Out of curiousity did you get your HDX WUXGA new from HP?

 

Oops. In my cold thanksgiving stupor I didn't realize that you don't yet have a WUXGA HDX.

Sorry

 

HDX9494nr
WSXGA (1680x1050)
Vista Ultimate x64 SP1
Intel Core 2 Duo T9400 2.53Ghz 35w 6mb [ED. Lanorp corrected me on the proc]
1TB (2xWD Scorpio Blue 500GB)
Geforce 8800m GTS 512mb
nVidia PhysX 128MB Support
8GB 667 (2x4GB G.Skill)

All games native resolution max settings (Crysis high)
Crysis
COD4
COD5
Splinter Cell DA
Oblivion
Fallout 3
BF2
BF2142
Brothers in Arms HH
Bioshock
Company of Heros
Dead Space
DiRT
Enemy Territory Quake Wars
Far Cry (duh)
Far Cry 2
Fallout Ultimate Carnage
FSX
Gears of War
Ghost Recon AW2
GRID
GTR Evolution
James Bond Quantum of Solace
Left 4 Dead
Mass Effect
MotoGP 08
Mercenaries 2 WIF
NFS Most Wanted
Carbon
Pro Street
Undercover
Outrun 06
Postal 2
Quake 4
Sega Rally Revo
SOF Payback
Superbike 08
Test Drive Unlimited
The Sims 2
The Witcher Enhanced Edition
Tomb Raider Underworld
Trackmania United Forever
UT3
many more...

point being, if you buy this laptop, with maxed out specs, you wont have a
problem running current and next gen games for a long while