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    *HP HDX DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 1*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by J-Bytes, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. jake311621

    jake311621 Newbie

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    hmm.. ok.. was just a thought.. again it maybe just a bad line of them or a couple of bad wires or such.. hopefully its nothing too serious.. well in my case if it is i want a new laptop...

    another thought.. if it is you may be able to claim defect and get whoever you got it from to replace it.. maybe?
     
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    Another thought, It could be heat. I know if you put something hot next to the buttons it will trigger them, and the monitor can get fairly warm after running for a while. I have never left the monitor close to the buttons before I always keep it strait so I have not seen this before.

    Might be worth checking into.
     
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    hmm.. good idea... hadnt thought about that.. ill give it a try

    Though i am almost positive i have had it happen even just 5 minutes or so after bootup.. sometimes right after bootup.. but that would help explain the seemingly randomness of it if there is heat and cool air "pulsing" to the buttons.

    if you dont mind.. try leaving your screen near the keys and see if you get this behavior too.. if so i can tell hp about it and maybe we can all report it in and make a deal of some sort with them.. xD
     
  4. CyberVisions

    CyberVisions Martian Notebook Overlord

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    And you actually believed him?? I can understand how you could be confused since you're not in the business or a tech, but someone who's being paid should know better. I knew HP "techs" were getting bad, but that's got to be absolutely the stupidest, most ridiculous BS answer I've ever heard that HP has told to a customer. He must've missed "ESD Class" in school. You can call him back and quote me on that as well.

    With today's micro-electronics, any ESD discharge strong enough to theoretically cause a Touch Sensor to cycle would destroy the circuit involved - at the very least over time you'd start to notice the burn marks on your bezel, if not the minor melt marks. Static discharges caused just by swiping your finger across a dusty (unpowered) screen or rubbing your feet along a floor can be between 50,000-100,000 volts, more than enough to fry a digital circuit. If you've never seen an electron scan of a damaged circuit caused by Static Discharge, it looks like a bomb hit it (or a lightning bolt at our level). It's enough to literally melt the circuit pathway at that level, which is why ESD safeguards are such a major part of every facet of the microelectronic industy, including the device's base engineering. While it's not that hard to zap boards and other internal circuits by working on exposed systems, companies know that people are stupid and don't know much about ESD in general (obviously the HP "tech" you spoke with is in that group). That's why the materials all electronic system exteriors are designed with this in mind, and electronic systems are designed to prevent damage from ESD.

    All electronic systems are grounded, which is the primary protection against Static Discharge (and any other electrical shock for that matter). Also, an unshielded wire can't cause a Static Discharge - that's not how ESD works. It can cause a higher ElectroMagnetic Field, and that's a possibility, but even then I doubt it - it would take a pretty strong field to cycle a sensor from a distance, and the voltages inside a notebook just aren't that high to create a strong enough EM field. Remember we're talking about digital circuits, not analog.

    Touchpad sensor technology is pretty sensitive to begin with - most of us who own HDX's have all experienced just having a hand or finger near a touchpad and had it go off, even putting a microfiber cloth down on them can cause one to trigger. If you keep your monitor edge that close, there's a possibility that the magnetic field from your speakers might be causing the switch fluctuation (the speakers are at the bottom corner of the monitor bezel). Magnetic fields from speakersthough are a hell of a lot different than ESD, or an EM field from an unshielded wire in a notebook. I'll defer to 2.0 as to whether or not the speakers are strong enough since he's actually seen them and knows whether or not they could be.
     
  5. AlphaHeX

    AlphaHeX Notebook Consultant

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    I'm looking for hi-res pictures of HDX motherboard (both sides if possible). If anyone can help me with that. You can send those pictures to Daniel.Perzynski at aster.pl. I'm trying to help in providing linux support for quickplay buttons, infrared ports and avermedia A312 HDTV card and I need information about some of the components soldered to motherboard.
     
  6. jake311621

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    Ok let me just say before anything else that i don't appreciate your tone here.. it sounds to me as both mockery and be-little-ing (sorry don't know how to spell that). And for the record, i am a tech of sorts.. i work as tech on desktops everyday, that is my job. I don't have a lot of experience with LCD screens in laptops, nor have I had many problem with ESD or EM, etc. I am still a student and have yet to have a good section on ESD. I will assume you didn't mean it to be offensive. But please be more careful with your word choice and sentence structure.

    Now you kind of contradicted yourself here.. First you said that was a ridiculous idea, but then you said that though improbable it could happen. further, I cant say whether or not the circuitry is being fried as i cant see it, it may be that there is an unshielded wire in the case and the circuitry has already been messed up and is now the reason i have problems. Also the HP Tech didn't say that WAS the problem, just that that was what he was suspecting the case to be, As was my suspicion from the beginning. The Tech said he was going to try to emulate the occurances in the *Lab* machine he had there and get back to me on it.

    Regardless I must agree that the EM field from the speakers does sound more reasonable. Though im not sure I am throwing out the ESD case either until I am given a specific reason as to what really is causing the problem. though if this weere the case then why would only the right half of the keys experience this cycling? I dont have any problem at all out of the left half from the fingerprint reader to the left edge of the laptop. That makes me want to discard the speaker's EM field idea because since their are speakers on both sides of the screen and they should be just the same i would expect them to have similar EM fields and therefore interact with buttons on left and right sides the same, Not just the right side. This being said if it is the right speaker thats causing the issue.. perhaps it is drawing more power creating a stronger EM field.. but again.. with the screen even a hair vertically above the quicklaunch buttons i dont get any odd happening out of the left side buttons... bringing the ESD case back to mind as only other possibility yet thought of..

    Edit: Sorry.. i forgot about the idea of heat possibly being the culprit as well.. was mentioned 3 posts back i believe. Need a way to test this.. any ideas?

    I pulled that bit out of your statement just to re clarify that the only time i have problems is when the screen is within about an inch of the buttons.. if i move the screen further back the occurances stop.

    **For further posting.. Please watch how you word things so they aren't taken as offensive to others**
     
  7. CompTrekkie

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    Well I cannot say what the issue is, but within a few seconds of me moving my monitor close to the buttons the sound and wireless started going crazy turning on and off.

    I have been in the PC business for years. Call center, help Desk, Systems Admin, and now Systems Engineer. I can tell you that the fix 100% is....... keep the monitor away from the buttons. :)

    I know, not a solution but that would be the answer we would give our clients. Of course if it were someone of enough significance we would then contact the vendor and if needed RMA it.

    It is a strange Hardware issue. If it was one that affected me I am sure I would put more effort into it. But because I keep my monitor back I am peachy.
    :D
     
  8. jake311621

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    same here i keep the monitor back a fair distance.. on occasion it will end up near enough to the buttons to cause the cycling.. I wonder if its the whole line of hdx computer that experience this? or just this series of them? or just a few choice ones. This isn't a serious issue unless you like the monitor up close and personal... but would still like to know a fix for it. Its a shame that the company that bought the voodoo computer line would have an issue like this, regardless of its intensity. Kinda puts a bad mark in Voodoo's area. IMO anyways.
     
  9. maarten08

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    It doesn't affect all HDX, I have the HP HDX 9350EB and even if I put the screen on top of the buttons, they don't go cycling.
    Grtz
     
  10. jake311621

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    well thats good to know.. that may help hp if they decide to make a recall or such.. that is assuming it gets enough widespread attn.. somehow i doubt there will be a such recall.. but you never know..
     
  11. CyberVisions

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    If someone has already gotten to this, I've been sick the last couple of weeks and really don't feel like going through 20 pages to catch up. So....

    Brent,

    When you get a slight stutter / interruption in playback (whether it be music or whatever) it has nothing to do with the drivers - it's due to your system accessing the hard drive that the music file is stored on, starting a background process (especially df your memory is low due to processes running and the system needs to use aHD as a scratch RAM source), etc. It happens if your available RAM percentage starts to drop. Regardless of how much RAM you have, all programs use more RAM than they give back to the system, and eventually if you don't restart your system, the percentage of available RAM will reach a critical level. When that happens, the system starts to use the HD to make up the difference. The only way to completely avoid it is to shut down as many background process you don't need running off while you're listening, especially if you have virus/ad/malware software that's keyed to do random checks all the time. It also pays to shut down your wireless connection, as any program that has an autoupdate is absolutely, positively, without question, going to check for an update when you want peace, quiet, and rock and roll. The problem isn't anything new, you just barely notice it because the system is so fast. In older desktops and notebooks with less RAM and speed, it was very noticeable.

    Or just restart your system.

    There's a good program called Memory Boost that I use on my desktop to reclaim RAM not returned by the system, but so far I haven't had much luck with it on a 64 bit system.

    As far as HDMI sound output goes, the only labels the sound window has had for Digital Output Device is either SPDIF or HDMI, not optical since the HDX has no optical port (unless you're thinking that SPDIF is optical, which it isn't). The older driver has SPDIF, newer ones have HDMI, but it makes no difference as the selection is the same to route sound.

    Selecting the Digital Output also isn't good enough - you must change it to the Default selection for the signal to be routed through the HDMI cable (doesn't ANYONE read the book that came with their system??? Just ragging dude.. :cool: ). The only way to route the signal to an optical port using an HDMI cable would be with an adapter unit that could route the audio going through the HDMI to an optical port via the adapter and then to your system. Unless you want to spend the $$ for the box though, it's easier to use a different method.
     
  12. Dominick_7

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    Quick question I'm trying to do a recording via Webcam using the CyberLink YouCam software and I cannot seem to get audio recording to work, its just all silent video. I did the update patch, but don't know if that helped or made the audio go away.. I also have the Full Klite Codec package installed an don't know if that messes with it. I found this link from within this thread: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&dlc=en&cc=us&os=2100&product=3675225&lang=en

    Do I just need to uninstall the audio drivers and reinstall these? Or something else? Also when I do a recording it asks if I should use the ff something show codec so I don't know if I should use that either. Thanks.
     
  13. maarten08

    maarten08 Notebook Consultant

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    Hey guys, one quick question.
    I'd like to overclock my Nvidia GeForce 8800M GTS. If I do this, I'll loose guarantee. BUT if I put things back to original clock speed, will HP be able to see that I've overclocked the card?
    Greetz

    BTW, what program did you use to overclock?
    Looks like I have 4 levels and can't get to that 4th one.
    Edit: i've found which program to use
     
  14. hovercraftdriver

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    Ok, turning to my bro's for some help here. I got a game for Xmas, Rise of the Argonauts-DVDROM, that won't load in my computer. Try's to spin up, but not full speed, and if I click on that drive in my computer, it ejects the disc. It loads in my wife's HP lappie, dv9640US, and my old XPS Gen2. Other DVDROM games, in fact all other discs I have tried, work in my HDX. I don't get it...any suggestions????
     
  15. CyberVisions

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    Dom,
    Go back to the original first, then try it from there. Always go back to the beginning when possible then work your way forward.
     
  16. CyberVisions

    CyberVisions Martian Notebook Overlord

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    Hover,
    Which HDX do you have? (processor, RAM, OS, etc.)
     
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    Had that issue once too. Try this:

    right click on the sound icon in tray
    click recording devices
    click microphone array and set as default
     
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    Could be your drive's region code. Control panel, device manager, right click drive, properties, dvd region tab. It might not be set to anything. Set it to region 1 if it isn't already.

    If that ain't it...

    Temporarily disable autoplay. control panel, auto play, uncheck use autoplay.
    Then use explorer to access the drive. My computer then right click the drive and hit explore. Then run setup from there.

    If that ain't it...

    Dunno.
     
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    2.0 Former NBR Macro-Mod®

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    Oh, right...

    Happy New year! :laugh: :wink:
     
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    Same to you. Always good to see you drop by.
     
  21. elmerfud

    elmerfud Notebook Consultant

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    Help ! Last night some wine got spilled on my HDX keyboard. Everything works fine, but I have some sticky and not working keys.

    How do I remove the keyboard to clean it ?

    I see 2 screws that have a keyboard type icon beside them. Do I have to remove all the screws on the bottom to get the keyboard out ?

    Thanks
     
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    Page 51 of the HDx manual.

    http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01279508.pdf

    One tip, it has a sticky tape underneath so don't be too shy about prying it up. But don't go crazy either.

    Start with the lower right corner using a small screwdriver.
     
  23. brentatent12

    brentatent12 Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the advice! As for the audio glitches, I've tried to monitor CPU, Memory, and HDD usage while they occur. Interestingly enough, none of them seem to spike, which is why I was wondering about possible driver updates. My original thought was that the glitch was caused by some kind of hardware issue, but after careful inspection, this doesn't seem to be the case. What is more, I don't have an Anti Virus program constantly running in the background, so this should help to reduce a lot of related performance issues. Just a few more notes--many times when I'm listening to music, that's all I'll be doing, so it's not as if I'm constantly changing from program to program in the background. And finally, I have never experienced this problem before on any of my other machines, including a Sony Vaio from 2000. I understand how audio buffers work, and how said technology can effect sound output, in FL Studio for example...but music usually plays smoothly. Please don't get me wrong; I'm not in any way trying to invalidate your theories or say that your information holds no merit. I will certainly take it into consideration and more closely monitor the system components. I am simply stating what I have experienced, and the various circumstances that seem to accompany it.

    As for the sound output. I was referring to a digital optical out via one of the 3.5mm headphone jacks. I could have sworn that the HDX came equipped with one of these, and even remember reading a post from someone who seemed to be using it to output a signal to their AVR. Again, I could be completely wrong, but I just thought I'd make sure.

    Thanks again for all of your help and advice!

    Brent
     
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    Cyber,
    HDX 9000T CTO, (any i.d program says 9200 tho) 2.5 Ghz cpu, Lightscribe super multi DVD player- LG makes it (HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA T20L), Vista 32 Prem. 3 gigs ram.


    2.0,

    Man, I have tried it all, and then some. I'm so pissed now, I just want to conquer the issue, don't even care about the game now. I even bought another disc. It ejects when I click on explore in my computer. Downloaded DVDinfo, and it doesn't even register as anything being in the drive(for this disc only).

    One strange thing is the original box has the PC DVD-ROM Software logo and the disc only says DVD-Rom. Probably not a big thing, but all my other games in this format have same logo on box AND on the disc. And they all work. I am stumped and have contacted the game manufacturer/publisher (lol, like they'll have any clue).

    Thanks for the responses guys.

    Oh, and cyber, yep...LCACer from 1989 to 2007 when I retired...what capacity were you involved with the program?
     
  25. CyberVisions

    CyberVisions Martian Notebook Overlord

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    No sweat dude. You can get a S/PDIF to Toslink converter if you really want to spend the dough. Here's a link to my favorite oddball cable/converter vendor. I've linked it to Toslink cables/converters - go through and see if there's something that you can use: http://tinyurl.com/9lu35c
     
  26. CyberVisions

    CyberVisions Martian Notebook Overlord

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    Hover,

    Check out the Argo Community site - the Forums have some posted info on the English/General topic area that you should read. The one thing I noted is that apparently ROTA isn't compatible with all notebooks. There's some good tech info there that you also should read through. It's at the top of the forum post, from Senior Manager ''jigglybean" (whatever..).

    Make sure you check through all his posts. http://tinyurl.com/8tnu8e

    LCAC -

    After I left the Submarine Force in '88 (as an STS1/SS) I went to work for Honeywell Federal Systems here in MD. As it turned out, my boss and one of the Program Managers were Naval Reserve Commanders with a Reserve Unit at the Pentagon. Knowing my Intel (not the company for anyone else reading) background, the recruited me into the unit, which took a SecNav waiver and a year before I was able to actually join. The unit I was in was at the time called OPNAV 03 - you'd know it as Assistant Chief of Naval Operations (Surface Warfare). During both Reserve and Temporary Active Duty (I was active for Desert Shield and Desert Storm, and before that as well) I worked directly for the LCAC Program Manager at OPNAV. Basically my job was stuff you'd never see, long-term LCAC program budgeting and manpower cycles (staffing from initial crew reporting in the shipyard through commissioning and beyond), plus the exciting world of making sure LCAC's had enough money for gas and supplies to make it go across the water. One of the cooler ships the Navy has come up with. Of course that wasn't my main function there - they didn't want me for my background to just crunch numbers. You get the idea.
     
  27. hovercraftdriver

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    Yeah, I've been all over that site. Even posted on it...amazing that it seems to be enough of a problem for a mod to post info about in his troubleshooting thread, but no one answers my post. He uses the caviat that a DVD drive must be faulty/going bad if ROTA plays in another PC and not "yours", or if similar game discs play in "yours" when ROTA won't. This is utter B.S. They are using sub-standard media discs, or some other formatting issue is causing it. I also read the notebook issue to be integrated graphics/sound...issues I'm obviously not having. I can take the game back and will now. It simply isn't worth it...was at the point that I wanted to be able to cram it in their face, i.e. thier fault. It may be MY drive causing the issue, but I seriously doubt it.

    Anyway, about LCAC's...since I retired I am still supporting them thru gov't contractor and in fact, we are designing a next gen assault hovercraft for the navy scheduled to start contstruction in 2011-2012. Pretty much the same as LCAC, but a little stronger (more engine power/payload capability) to sustain ops in higher seas and longer range. Does the name Tom Rivers ring a bell? He's high up on the food chain and has been for as long as I can remember.

    Thanks for the replies to my issues...Happy New Year to you and all our HDX compadres!!!
     
  28. elmerfud

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    Thanks !

    I got the keyboard out no problem. I'm really impressed at how easily it can be removed without disassembling the whole machine.

    In spite of cleaning it multiple times, I can't get all the keys to work reliably. I've been flushing it with tap water, vacuuming away the excess water and then air drying it.

    I am typing this from my HDX with the keyboard removed using an external USB keyboard.

    The HDX keyboard has a plastic wrap on the back of it that prevents a thorough flushing and drying. My next step will be to remove the plastic wrap on the backside and try another flush. I am also thinking of using alcohol rather than water for the final flush.

    Any comments/ideas ?

    Aside: The whole keyboard removal/drying/rebooting/testing took up a lot of my time yesterday and has me questioning laptop computers as a solution to my computing needs. They are great when they work, but any failure of any component renders the whole machine useless. I spent 2007 shipping my zd7280 back and forth to HP.

    Every time something like this happens I start scheming about putting together a ROBUST portable computer using a 1/2 depth 1U server chassis and a stand alone 20 inch LCD display.

    A case like this would work great if fan noise wasn't a problem. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811152087 It would have the same footprint as the Dragon, 19"x14". Obviously it would be thicker and heavier.
     
  29. CyberVisions

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    Just take it back, get a refund, then buy it and use the downloaded version directly from the site.

    Tom Rivers does ring a bell, but it's been 15 years since I was at OPNAV. I can't remember what I ate yesterday.... :cool:
     
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    Hey guys, it's been a long time since I was here. I don't want to get into the nitty gritty, but to nutshell it I fell into hard times. that being said I was wondering if anyone here knew anyone who wanted to buy my HDX. it's less than 6 months old DHX9494NR (20.1" screen), a 120GB hard drive added and is in pristine condition. basically all I want for it is what I paid for it and the extras (like the alienware backpack). if this post is a violation against the forum rules, let me know and I'll remove it immediately. Anyone interested PM me for full specs and price.

    Also I'd like to thank all the awesome posters here who's helped me out with this laptop like 2.0 and black knight and so many others. without you I know all of us would be lost.
     
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    Anyone know if VMWare is still free? If so which one? I need XP to work on the HDX because Id like to get recordings I've done on my Comcast DVR off to be able to make room for more recordings while keeping previous recordings. I've done this before using firestb and DVHSCap but it seems to only work via a 32bit OS. If I were to use a Virtual PC 64 bit with a 32bit XP Pro would I be able to use older software like firestb and others I'd like to use? Or will the fact that I have a 64bit hardware environment make it impossible? I also need to use it in order to use Yahoo Site Builder so I can finish up on a website, but that software doesn't seem to work with 64bit either.. Thanks.
     
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    Very sorry to learn about your situation. My thoughts go out to you and yours during this trying time.

    I'm glad that I could be somewhat helpful in the past.

    One other place on this forum to post this to get more exposure is in this section:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18

    Best wishes and I hope things turn around for you soon.
     
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    VMware player is still free but you'll need a virtual appliance to install XP to.

    As for Virtual PC, you can install a 32bit XP on it and be able to use the software.

    But here's the rub:

    Not sure that virtual machines can access the firewire port. I don't believe VMware can do it. It only accesses USB ports. Doubt Virtual PC can do it either. VM's to my knowledge, do not emulate firewire.


    Your best bet is to do a full install of XP.

    Best way to do it without messing up your Vista install is to remove the harddrive containing Vista from bay 1. To go dual boot, the Vista drive must be in bay 2 with the drive you want to install XP on in bay 1. The reason is because you will damage the bootloader otherwise.

    Though every time you boot up, you'll be presented with a boot menu. One that gives you 30 secs to choose or defaults to XP if time runs out. (One of the reasons why I came up with a way to boot off the second HDD by simply inserting a bootable USB key which maintains seperate bootloaders for each HDD.)

    As for being able to install XP, you'll need the following:

    1. XP drivers for the HDX. http://www.hpdrivers.mercs.us/

    2. nlite. www.nliteos.com You need nlite to add the XP sata driver. Otherwise it won't recognize the harddrive.

    3. Blank DVD to burn a bootable XP install disk with the SATA driver slipstreamed.

    It's a to do, that's for sure. But not one that can't be achieved with some patience. There's other sections of this forum that have some really good folks that are very experienced with nlite. And then there's nlite's forum which is chock full-o-good info.
     
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    Lancorp: Care to give us some speed comparisons ? In everyday usage terms, if you do, please...

    How much faster is your HDX18 with the Quad than the Dragon with the T9300 ?

    How much faster is the Dragon with the T9300 than the T8300 ?

    How much faster do the SSDs make these machines ?

    Thanks.
     
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    I'm having a problem when using the digital tuner. About every 10 seconds or so, the picture would skip/pause. No other program is running while viewing the TV show. Anyone encounter this problem?
     
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    Will the Dragon run 2 external monitors (1 via HDMI and 1 via the DSub) if one shuts off the built in monitor ?

    Thanks.
     
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    I would like to ask again for hi-res pictures of HDX motherboard (both sides would be brilliant). I'm trying to develop some missing drivers for Linux and I need information about components soldered to the motherboard.
     
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    Is anything easy?? :) Ok..that's what I thought you'd say..:/




    If I have data on the second hard drive, will it let me just partition, say 30GBs for XP so I don't mess with the data that's already on there?

    I'm thinking when I get 2 new hard drives with bigger capacity either being 320 or 500GBs the easiest way to do it is to install XP FIRST THEN use the Windows Vista CTO dvd to set up Vista on the second hard drive without needing any of this other extra stuff so it boot properly?



    The 3 second option is exactly what I'm looking for. Ok cool.


    Is there anywhere I can get step by step direction. Downloading drivers should be easy enough, but I've never used nliteos, don't know what it is and for the bootable XP Install disk are you saying I can't use the official one I bought or that I need to somehow USE XP to create a boot disk and include the SATA driver slipstreamed on it whatever slipstreamed means?

    I've read some step by step directions online but they were confusing, they had so many different methods and fixes that it made my eyes cross, and it seems like even knowledgeable people had to go through hell to get it to work properly..Also do I need to use ALL the drivers from that link or just some? Thanks 2.0.
     
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    No one's taken pictures that close up. I've taken some but just for the fans, the GPU, and CPU. Fans were the closest so that I can see the manufacturer codes in case I needed to replace them third party.

    Since the HDX takes about 2 hours to disassemble, don't think anyone's going to go through the trouble unless they're going to upgrade the CPU.

    What exactly do you need to develop Linux drivers? Some of that info may be obtainable without having to disassemble the HDX.
     
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    Hehe. :twitchy:



    Yes that's possible.

    XP first is the way to go in order to maintain bootloader integrity.

    Unfortunately, you can't use the official XP disk because it doesn't have SATA drivers installed at setup. So it will fail to install XP on the HDX. One thing Nlite does is make a new install disk with any drivers you want to include during setup. You can even make the XP install to be unattended. It's a very powerful program. Admittedly, it's not designed for those inexperienced with XP and OSs in general. People have been doing what nlite does without it for a while. Nlite just adds a graphical interface to the process.

    I don't know of any easy step by step guides. I'm sure someone somewhere may have done one. You'll have to hunt around.

    As for drivers, you'll need all the drivers except the ATI video driver.

    It takes a bit of work getting XP to run on the HDX seeing as it wasn't made for it and HP doesn't support it. But it can be done. You won't be able to get a few things to work no matter what. Remote, Sound, and some other thing I forget offhand.

    The alternative is to look for software that will work in Vista that accomplishes the goal of transferring movies off your DVR.
     
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    Yes I know that disassembly will take me few hours. Maybe I will do it by myself during processor upgrade which I have in my plans.

    Generally speaking I'm interested in ITECIR (ITE8710) CHIP. I've already modified LIRC driver for IT8705/8712 as according to datasheets they are very similiar each other . Unfortunately it looks like it is not ITE8710 alone but rather ITE8305 (as description says on HP drivers page) which is kind of multi functional chip with CIR enabled (ITE8710).

    There is already ACPI Direct Application Launch driver for Linux ( http://quickstart.sourceforge.net/).
    For quickplay/DVD/TV/Eject buttons HP-WMI kernel module is working fine (passing events to system log) but I'm unable to read those events from /dev/input/eventX device. I working on that with HP-WMI module author but he is very busy and/or unresponsive :(

    What is concering sound passing model=5stack for snd-hda-intel module is doing the job. I will be checking all option more deeply (5.1 output, voice recording, etc).

    For Avermedia a312 (Hybrid HP HDTV card) I've already modified DVB kernel sources and card was initialized successfully. Unfortunately I don't have ATSC in Poland thus I'm not able to test it :( Now I'm going to develop analog TV + radio for that card using PVRUSB2 drivers which is the closed one to that card.
     
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    JohnnyFlash Notebook Virtuoso

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    Has anyone had trouble burning DVD-R's? I've tried 6 different types of media and both 8x/4x burning, but pretty much every disk is doesn't work. Usually the drive goes nuts trying to read it and then hangs.

    I've tried retail disks in my drive, and they read normal. I've tried the disks I've burned in other computers, and they have the same issues.

    I'm running out of space and need to back some stuff up here.
     
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    I bought a Sierra MC8775 3G mini PCI-E card, turns out I could not find if there is a SIM card slot in/on the HDX Dragon? I noticed in the manual it notes some models does have built in WWAN broadband feature.
     
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    JF,
    Which DVD drive do you have?
     
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    Ok now I understand what Nlite is for. So I'd just have to make the OS disk with all the XP drivers. I just place them all in the Windows folder I guess? What does unattended mean? I've burned and used different OS (98, 2000, XP, Vista) but I'm still not that experienced in terms of technical stuff relating to OSs.


    I'll look around.. Is that the Mobillity Raedeon one you're talking about?


    Right. I thought you can get sound but just not bass? I don't care if theres no remote control. That still doesnt let me use Yahoo Web Builder..though maybe the VM might be good for that. I'll keep looking around to see if there are any other options for DVR recording..the guy that made it is apparently awol so there have been no updates..:/
     
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    Unattended means that you can use nlite to populate XP's install dialogues with info so it never pauses during install waiting for user input. I forget which steps exactly offhand. Steps like timezone, network setting, etc.

    Right, ATI Radeon Mobiity driver.

    BTW, here's a guide of sorts I stumbled upon that is fairly well written. Follow it all the way through step 6.

    EDIT: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3984849&postcount=141
     
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    Using third party software like NERO or ROXIO to burn? If you are, try uninstalling them and see if Vista can burn them.
     
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    Cool. What guide? Where? Am I missing something?
     
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    Hey guys,

    I dont actually own a HDX yet but I'm really interested in getting one.
    I'm after a HDX9430EA, this doesn't come with a Blu-Ray drive but does anyone know if I could replace the DVDRW in the future? If so I think I've made my choice!

    Anything I should know about these laptop in particular? I'm buying one to replace my desktop...

    Thanks.
     
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