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    HP Omen 15 (5XXX series) Gaming Notebook

    Discussion in 'HP' started by DrClone, Oct 8, 2014.

  1. Auduno

    Auduno Notebook Geek

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    Thats weird...My contact in the store I got my Omen from got in touch with HP here in Scandinavia. They said that there were definately something wrong with my device, and swapped mine with a new one without question.
    Mine reached a max temperature of 94 degrees celsius.

    When it comes to the lach of wattage of the AC adapter, I'm a bit sceptical. With the new Omen i have no difference in performance or temperatures when carging or fully charged.
    On full load in BF4 on high settings, the max temperature of the GPU is 80ish celsius.
    There is better performance when plugged in than on battery power only tho, but I got explained that this is normal, because that all of the components in the machine gets a optimal supply of power or something.

    I got this message yesterday, twice. First when the Omen was plugged in and charging, the second time when it wasnt even plugged in and on battery power only...weird
     
  2. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    Thanks Auduno,

    What FW are you on?

    I am on F05, and haven't updated yet. I have had that message I posted only 1 time... I haven't had the time to really get down with my Omen yet. my Daily Driver notebook is the Clevo x7200. so I use this primary for now. (work days)


    I have experienced a tiny bit of flickering.. but maybe not.. I have to research what constitutes flickering in the cases of the problem earlier in this thread that others where having.

    I have experienced the plugged in / not charging thing again... the only way to rectify it for me at least.. was to uninstall the battery and ac adapter drivers in the device manager.. and then reboot.


    In my research I've found that the 120w adapter has trouble for some.. on high demanding games while running the GPU and Charging at the same time... that's why it defaults at least for me in these circumstances too the plugged in / not charging.. so I get full power to my GPU and not say 70 or less % to my GPU and then 30 or more % to the charging of the battery.

    now... I have read the descriptions of the HP Smart AC Adapter 150w.. and it specifically says that it's for laptops with this issue.. specifically the so you can do your thing while having enough watts for the "thing" whatever that may constitute... and the other amount of watts to charging... in other words.. it can do both and what's needed without any other problems due to the extra wattage. I am of course paraphrasing.. but I think you get the idea.


    so... I still think that a more watt adapter couldn't hurt... especially considering the message we get.. the plugged in / not charging.. and the other things we all have experienced and read in the bulk of this thread.

    thanks

    -dex
     
  3. amazer

    amazer Notebook Consultant

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    I tried to recreate the problem that I faced while heavy duty gaming on my Omen. I deliberately disconnected the charger again while playing watch dogs and there was a dip in frame rates again. After sometime, I replugged the laptop charger & this time, well, the frame rates increased to 35-40 fps that I was getting earlier. The other time my fps just refused to increase inspite of connecting the charger to power. Am unable to find any reasons for Thai behaviour. However, love my Omen.
    - good looks and solid build quality
    - stays relatively cool under heavy gaming sessions too.
    - good balance of understated looks and gaming power ( I find other laptops a little more fancy in terms of logos, lighting etc)
     
  4. Auduno

    Auduno Notebook Geek

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    I'm on the F08 bios :)
    I agree a bigger AC-adapter could definately not hurt, but as my Omen functions fine with the 120w I dont think this is the issue alone at least
     
  5. pizzasogood

    pizzasogood Notebook Consultant

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    Just updating on my Omen I got back in the middle of December: I have had zero issues with it and absolutely love it so far. I haven't updated my BIOS (still on F05) nor have I gotten the battery/ charger error. For those seeing that the battery isn't charging when plugged in until it reaches 95%, as I've mentioned, many HP laptops, the Omen included, has a battery feature that maintains the health and longevity of the laptop by stopping the charge at full after sometime until it hits 95% or so and then continues to charge it back up again to full. Again, that is normal and is a part of a battery feature that keeps the health of the battery in tact.

    However, if it appears that your charging is intermittent and/ or erratic while plugged in, say it stops charging at an arbitrary point like 40% and then it begins charging again at an arbitrary point, that may be a sign of an issue that is worth contacting HP about.

    Anyway, I've been playing a lot of Dragon Age Inquisition on medium settings and achieving a framerate of 48-55, with AA off. MSAA at x2 I am achieving an average of 38 frames. StarCraft 2 runs flawlessly on Ultra settings. The temps run rather cool for both games and have very rarely seen my temps go beyond 80. If you're still considering this laptop at the price range and specs tier, I would definitely go for it.
     
  6. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    I figured out how to downgrade my bios. and went back to F00... lol... that bios sucks.. the lights on the keyboard don't even function...

    I thought I backed up my F05 bios.. but I lost it... so I only have bios F06 and F08.

    I am on F08 Currently... I like the idea of downgrading.. and a lot of companies make it so you can't downgrade.. but being able to do so on HP.. that's cool.. I am the kind of person who likes the ability to change things.. even though I don't... but If I wanted to ... It's just nice to be able to do so.

    now..

    If anyone here has a copy of BIOS F05 or could make a backup of said bios Please post it here via putfile or sendfile or whateverfile you can..

    I am trying to make a HP OMEN BIOS REPOSITORY.

    if you need instructions on how to backup your bios. I can help. PM Me Please

    thanks

    -dex
     
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  7. Auduno

    Auduno Notebook Geek

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    I'll try asking again....Does anyone know a way to make the macro keys on the omen to for example open a program etc?
    The feature to combine keystrokes are a bit useless to me :p
     
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    I haven't even once used those macro keys once, since buying the laptop. However, I do face some issue in typing as I keep on hitting macro key instead of escape key etc, due to keyboard being shifted slightly to the right.

    Want to ask a question - how are the temperatures on your Omen Laptop while gaming?
     
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    Never reach 80 both CPU and gpu. Most intensive game I played is probably dragon age inquisition. And it's summer here, very happy with the thermal control
     
  10. Auduno

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    After I got the new omen after sending the first one back, I hava had a max temperature of 75 degrees C while gaming BF4, FarCry 4 and assassins creed unity. That is both on GPU ad CPU. Very pleased with my omen now
     
  11. amazer

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    Hi, do you guys also notice some stuttering in games when you are playing and the power is cut off i.e. When the laptop is running the game on battery? I am using the HP recommended battery plan, & I notice a lot of stuttering while playing games (far cry 4, watch dogs etc) when it switches from power to battery while gaming..
     
  12. raundown

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    Why would you even wanna play games on battery...
     
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  13. Auduno

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    I dont know if you guys knew this, but I did not.
    In the GeForce Experience software -> settings -> BatteryBoost you can adjust the maximum FPS in games while on battery only.
    I havent tested it out yet, but I guess this is why games have run much better when plugged in than on battery only...

    I dont know about you, but this was new for me :p
     
  14. MJBarnes

    MJBarnes Notebook Geek

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    Hello all- I just wanted to say Hello and introduce myself. I just received the HP Omen from Amazon. They have the price at $1399 so I bit. This is a VERY nice looking laptop. From the quality of the case to the screen. Whites are extremely white, excellent touch screen, etc..

    I also have the 2014 Razer Blade and although the Razer has a 512GB SSD and the NVidia 870m, this machine could be my daily work horse while on the road.

    That's all for now. Just wanted to say Hello and that I joined the club.
     
  15. skunkd

    skunkd Newbie

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    Does anyone know if the Omen will get an update soon to a broadwell chip and 9xxm? I love everything about this laptop but can't pull the trigger with last years tech when all the new stuff is pouring out on the GS60 MSI's already.
     
  16. Proteus1

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    Howdy All!
    I really liked this laptop, had it for about 2 weeks, minimal testing..etc.. But decided to return it as the store (Futureshop) I purchased it from would not price match the deals going on on-line, specifically the e-coupons from HP, at the end of the day a few hundred dollars makes it or breaks it.
    I'll admit I'm not too technically inclined.
    I didn't play anything to graphically intense on it, I tend to delve towards strategy and RPG games on PC. Tested wasteland 2, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3.
    I was really stoked about this "Vodoo" laptop, I hope it's the start of something great from HP, But I'm not biting just yet, like the post above, I'll wait (in hope) that they release a up-to-date model with a few improvements.

    Cons for me were:
    -Touch screen & glossy screen
    -Soldered ram (I like upgrade access to maintain my laptop)
    -Battery cant be replaced.
    -Touchpad could improve
    -whistling fan/s (maybe it was just my model)

    I came across this review which hit upon a few points that were deal breakers for me too.
    HP Omen Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

    Cheers
     
  17. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    whoa thread crap. buddy please don't post such long things in this or any thread.. unless truly specified to do so..

    and to the others..

    the soldered ram.. is the way it is... it won't change.. get used to it.

    and the SOC too.. it is what it is.. and i'm and many others are fine with that.

    what we got here is a great lappy.. small light and powerful..

    to put it my perspective which I used when purchasing it.

    I am a long time laptop/gaming/workstation/dtr/Gentoo Linux for the heck of it crowd.

    I have had 4 clevo notebooks since 2003.

    I have been gaming on laptops since you first could.. but that's another story.


    What i'm getting at is this:

    4 years ago I had an accident. long story very short.. I lost my Eurocom(clevo/sager) d901c with sli 8800m GTX bought in 2008.. it costed me over 3500$ back when... since I had wicked good insurance and because of my trade.. had specific type of notebook insurance.. (through my then company I was working for.. it's a special thing.. *don't ask*

    I just had said.. that I wouldn't pay upwards of 4000... after taxes for a laptop again.. but since I full coverage of 4000$ from my insurance I got the equivalent of what I got in '08/09 in late 2010.

    it was a CLEVO X7200 it had i7 desktop proc with 4 cores.. i7930... not to shabby then..

    and dual GTX 480m's I thought it killed back when.

    and guess what.. this notebook still kicks butt..

    and in sli I still can rip open most new games... with a dual PSU at 600+ w coverage.. and also having a pencil modded uber volted beast(s) the 480's ripping up dust just under sli 680's stock..
    (again don't ask).. it is bios modded and hard modded.. dig dig dig of my threads if you must but this is a dead chapter.. as with my accident.

    anyways...

    when I saw the omen.

    it played into something I've been waiting a while for. and I checked regularly for years.

    I wanted something small, lightweight.. with a dedicated gaming card, touchscreen, decent batt life and lots of power.

    What I am benchmarking it against.. is my x7200. in it's current incarnation. and that is with stock 480's.. I haven't started to hack apart my 860m... I will once I get a 150w switchable PSU.. it's on the way :)

    anyways...

    My x7200 is large and in charge.... it still rocks the junk out of most PC's and general purpose units and laptops I see around.

    so that's my model... when I compared it to this baby.. I was astounded.

    I was initially wary about the 860m.. because I used to be a #1 has to be the best GFX.

    but I warmed up to it. once I went to notebookcheck.

    you see I was comparing it against my 15lb beast


    and it's equal to stock dual 480's... and the processor is equal to my i7 930 quad.

    now.. me seeing this.. rocked my world. because to me my x7200 still rocked.. and jeeze.. if I could get a small compact babe like this????

    that matches it in power but in a tiny frame and slim formfactor????

    that's the best! In my opinion of course...
    and that's ladies and gent's how I framed it.. in my perspective.

    I still love my x7200.. it stays put.. and I am upgrading it to dual 680's.. and after I work my magic in them.. I am sure I can match a desktop 980 single of course.. *again don't ask* I know my electronics and bioses.. vet me if you must.. but I speak the truth.. I will speak of this in the clevo area when the time comes. I was also thinking of putting the p570wm MOBO inside my modded of course chassis... and then just getting a xeon and dual 980's

    I mean..

    buds.. if you want to upgrade.. get a high end clevo.. it's as close to get as a normal PC as you can get.. if you get the top desktop chipset models... I mean.. I have hardmodded chips, video cards,processors, you name it on them. it's all in the archives here.

    but just having the power of my beast.. *imo.. in a small form factor.. and that can. play literally.. every game I hold dear.. and I mean going from 1982-----present.
    I am in heaven.!!

    peace buds

    to all


    -dex
     
  18. Oxford_Guy

    Oxford_Guy Notebook Evangelist

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    Does anyone think it's likely that HP will release an 860m/865m or even a 870m or 880m (unlikely) version of the HP Omem this year, perhaps when Broadwell is available (lower power requirements/less heat)?
     
  19. Auduno

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    If HP is planning on upgrading the Omen there is no logical reason what so ever to give it a 8xx Gpu when the competition has started to power theirs with 9xx gpu's.
    That's if they are planning on keep the prizing this high at least..
     
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    I was trying to uninstall the HP Recovery Manager but it cannot be found in the Control Panel. When I open the shortcut location the the exe is strangely as "rebecca.exe". The main reason why I want to remove it is because I no longer have a use for it as I have removed the recovery partition. It is also interfering with my Lightroom workflow. When pressed Ctrl + Alt + R, it opens the Recovery Manager which is annoying as hell as it opens on top of Lightroom I have to close it every time.

    So I manually deleted the folder in explorer, but that didn't get rid of the shortcut. Instead of opening the Recovery Manager, it opens Document, equally annoying as fk. Does anyone know how to tackle this?
     
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    Heads up for anyone still considering buying this awesome laptop, today only, HP online store is offering a 20% off coupon if you use the coupon code JAN20. It works with any customizable laptop $999 or more.
     
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    Is there any issues on this laptop that I should be aware of? And can you replace the battery? Im afraid the battery might die out if I charge it too much. Thinking about buying this.
     
  23. raundown

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    Battery not replaceable. Lotsa issues and not so much. Read the thread and you ll understand why
     
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    Is it only me or Omen's fan noise is a little on the higher side even when one is not gaming? During gaming, the fans ramp up a lot. But during some productivity work also, I can hear some fan noise in a quiet room. Just wanted to know is other users are also experiencing this?
     
  25. raundown

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    What is your temp like when the fans run? Check your fan settings too maybe it's set to run in lower range of temperature. Mine only run when gaming.
     
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    How do I check the fan settings? On other note, laptop's temperature seem normal, and the battery plan that I am using is HP recommended. Can we access fan settings from omen control? I can only see one option of maximum fan, which I have not selected.
     
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    I think I have seen it in the bios. I ll look it up when. I'm back from work
     
  28. Auduno

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    Just found out that HP released a new BIOS F09 medio january.
    The update is supposed to improve keyboard response.

    Has anyone installed it?
     
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  29. amazer

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    I am just **** scared of installing any new bios update on software from HP website. Just don't have faith on what hell would break loose in proper functioning of laptop with any new iteration of driver..
     
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    Hello happy owners of this cool laptop :)

    I am looking for a laptop to use as a SW development machine so 16 GB, 256 SSD and fats i7 CPU is a must. Omen looks like a good option for me :)

    Requirements:
    1. SW development in the office. Java, LifeRay etc.
    2. SW development while commuting to work by train. 2 hours without charger.
    3. Light enough for commuting (Omen is 2.1 kg that sounds light)
    4. No gaming. It is a laptop for work.

    Questions:
    - Is Omen a good choice for these requirements?
    - Is there small power supply that I can get with me while travelling and not gaming? The default one looks a bit big. Since I will not game I guess I do not need very powerful power supply.
    - Is Omen chassis strong and durable for daily commuting?
    - Can I attach 2 external monitors to the laptop?
    - Is there a docking station for this laptop? I guess not :)
    - Is it noisy when not gaming?
    - Does it have 2 GPU one from Intel and another from NVidia?
    - If I disable NVidia GPU will it prolong the battery life? Anyone tried that?
    - Is this model fine: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/52616/fdqcx/HP-OMEN-15-5000no-15-6-kannettava-Win-8-1-musta

    There are quite many questions and I would appreciate any answers!
     
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    Questions:
    - Is Omen a good choice for these requirements?

    Yes it is. It's a fantastic computer that gets the job done very quickly as well. Fantastic build quality although the macro Keys (the configurable Keys on the left side) makes the while keyboard pushed to the right. But you'll get used to that within a day. It's annoying if you use different computers in one day since you'll have to change the way you place your hands on the keyboard, but it's a small thing really m
    - Is there small power supply that I can get with me while travelling and not gaming? The default one looks a bit big. Since I will not game I guess I do not need very powerful power supply.
    120W is not a big power supply. A 90 Watt would probably suffice, but generally you shouldn't use a power supply that doesn't have enough amperes to power it. So it's a no.
    - Is Omen chassis strong and durable for daily commuting?
    Yeah the aluminium build is very good, but don't drop the laptop.
    - Can I attach 2 external monitors to the laptop?
    There's only one HDMI output but the computer has enough horsepower to run two monitor if you can find a one-to-two HDMI adaptor.
    - Is there a docking station for this laptop? I guess not :)
    Nope.
    - Is it noisy when not gaming?
    That depends on who you are. I'd say no. Some may disagree. It's audible but it's a silent noise.
    - Does it have 2 GPU one from Intel and another from NVidia?
    Yes! The Intel is built into the CPU.
    - If I disable NVidia GPU will it prolong the battery life? Anyone tried that?
    the computer automatically switches between Intel and nvidia based on your usage. Only when gaming or connecting external monitors the NVIDIA is activated.
    I can get about 4 hours of battery life with keyboard lights off and minimum brightness. About 3h 20 min with good brightness and keyboard lights on.
    - Is this model fine: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/52616/fdqcx/HP-OMEN-15-5000no-15-6-kannettava-Win-8-1-musta

    That's my model.
     
  32. raundown

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    There's also a Display port

    Sent from my SM-P905 using Tapatalk
     
  33. pizzasogood

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    @almalino,
    I am looking for a laptop to use as a SW development machine so 16 GB, 256 SSD and fats i7 CPU is a must. Omen looks like a good option for me :)

    - Is Omen a good choice for these requirements?
    I would say so. I don't personally do SW Dev so I couldn't say but the specs however may prove to be enough for it.
    - Is there small power supply?
    Not entirely sure about this but I would look into setting the power settings to power saver that then will allow for you to save battery life. I keep my keyboard lights off and put the brightness 4 clicks up from the lowest setting that's optimal for my daily usage which is browsing the internet, typing up word docs, and gaming. I would consider your commute scenario on a train, especially in the day, to force you to turn the brightness up a bit due to its glossy screen. The screen becomes like a mirror if you're on a dark or black screen if you're coding in inverted colors, say, that may pose a problem. You could look into a non-reflective screen protector for it. But otherwise the battery should last you at least 3 hours. Mine lasts about 4 or so on HP recommended power settings, running Excel and a few Chrome tabs and Spotify.
    - Is Omen chassis strong and durable for daily commuting?
    The body is very durable and solid. It is a very thin and light laptop as well which may prove to be a good laptop choice for you even if you don't game. I move mine from home to work daily with no issues. Be sure to buy a good bag for it, but carrying around the laptop should prove to be a pleasant experience.
    - Can I attach 2 external monitors to the laptop?
    There are 4 USB 3.0 ports, one HDMI and one Display-Port port in the back of the laptop. You could find ways to connect external monitors to it. I've connected my laptop wirelessly through a local wireless network as well as using the HDMI port with no issues.
    - Is it noisy when not gaming?
    I have no problems with the fan noise at all. I game a lot and the fan noise is mediocre for gaming. During normal use, it is also mediocre. The fans are huge and keep your laptop very cool which is great.
    - Does it have 2 GPU one from Intel and another from NVidia?
    The Omen has an integrated Intel GPU and a dedicated NVidia GPU as well.
    - If I disable NVidia GPU will it prolong the battery life?
    It may. You can go into the graphics settings and force the system to only use the integrated Intel graphics if you wanted.

    I am currently extremely satisfied with this laptop as the build quality is good and solid. The specs are pretty good. Running my daily tasks with no issues, it runs my games pretty well too. I have awesomely low temps when running a resource intensive game or app like Adobe PS or Illustrator.
     
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    I have been extremely disappointed by HP most recent years just gone by, notebook releases. This is the first time I have been truly excited that is finally something worth getting and keeping. My biggest problem I have is the hardware maybe still current, but it is so close to the turn over of newer 5th generation or 6th generation Intel processors, it really doesn't make for a smart buy for the given high price tag. If this had of been released at least 6 months ago, then I would have jumped onto it, but now its February 2015 and it is just coming into market, I am really hesitant to spend this much on an aged Haswell platform with 1 year old 860M graphics. In about 2-3 months there is a good change we will see the Omen with at least 5th generation Broadwell processor and updated to 960M, even if the GPU is a rebrand. I wouldn't get hopes up high for anything more than a 860M/960M rebrand, it just wont work in the platform size and is not HP style to go bigger. Brings to a bigger question, if anyone waits it out just a couple of month for Intel 5th gen, then even at that stage it is way to close to picking it up with Intel 6th gen with maybe DDR4 and possible node shrink on the GPU, in which I think then the thin and light will really start to show that it can manage the hot hardware.
     
  35. dexgo

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    6 months... lol, your not going to be that behind ... I mean... you get the newest thing... 6 months next again.. you will be behind anyways...

    think of it like I do.

    I paid over 4k 5 years ago in 2010. for the bleeding edge Clevo x7200. it had i7 930 desktop processor and dual SLI 480m GTX video cards.. among other things.

    This unit I got the 16gb OMEN with 4gb video 860m and i7 4710 quad core and m2 256gb SSD.

    It is equal to the i7 930 in terms of speed and benchmarks. that 5 years ago.

    and it is equal or a small amount greater than the SLI 480m GTX video cards.

    that's again 5 years ago.

    it's of course Way better in terms of speed and tech for the SSD.

    which is great.. but the ONLY thing I would have changed was an option for a traditional 2.5" notebook drive.

    That is All.

    My Point being... 6 months... in tech.. yes newer quality stuff.

    but in Practical Terms my friend Practical Terms....

    Real Time... Real-World... Usability and Speed/Benchmarks.. and what it can actually do.

    It's equal to.. if not a tiny smidge better than my Huge 15lb Monster Bleeding Edge Clevo from 2010 January.

    That works for me.. Because my Clevo from 10 years ago... In terms of Real World Bench'es and what it could / can do.. is pretty powerful for work.. encoding/ compiling... gaming.. transcoding etc... get my point??

    this tiny unit... meats and beats the big monster...

    but from 5 years ago.. i'm sure the tech is like so many generations behind.. it's a joke.. to people in the know..

    but in terms of bechmarks.. and real world work...

    it's only equal to it.. or maybe a smidge better.

    Now.. that's still awesome! because my Clevo had a desktop chipset and was killer for it's time.. and still compared to most peoples desktop computers / laptops.. unless of course they have the bleeding edge newer clevo or a killer new tech bleeding edge desktop.. then it's another thing..

    but like I said prev... in terms of 5 year old tech.. anyways.. it's just as good.. but in a tiny inny little package.

    that's cool in my book.

    so if you miss 6 months in tech>???

    it's not going to matter in terms of what it can actually accomplish...

    pi .24 seconds better?

    or a few more marks in 3dmark?

    it still runs Dragon Age on my unit at 30-40 fps on all high 1920x1080.

    and all other games at 1920x1080 on ultra.

    so that's all that matters.

    it's like a 300zx twin turbo from 1989.

    370z from lets say 2010

    370? way newer tech..

    yes

    faster off the line? probably.

    but are they both super fast off the line regardless?

    and do they both give 99% of cars on the road on a every day basis a run for all their money?

    yes

    are they going to wipe the butts off 99% of the vehicles they run into on a daily basis?

    totally!

    unless the one time you will run into a vehicle that doesn't have twin turbo's under 5 seconds in 0-100km / 60mph.

    not many.

    the 1989 car still kicks butt.

    the top of the line 370 z

    and it's predecessor the 350 z

    is pretty much the same power if less so than the 1989 version.

    so there you go.

    the omen kicks butt.

    as does a lot of specialized laptops other than itself.

    but how often do you run into them?

    Need them?

    and the omen can take everything you throw at it.

    peace out

    -dex
     
  36. amazer

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    The above comments form "dexgo" sum it up nicely.. We will always have outdated tech in 6 months, given the rate at which new hardware is being launched in market. We just have to think about the optimal set with current hardware & price.... All said and done, I think omen will still be relevant for another 2 years or so , given its hardware. For more future proof stuff from gaming angle, you can probably look at good laptops with gtx 9xxm series.
     
  37. raundown

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    I think T2050 meant he won't spend a premium price on a laptop that he thinks it will be replaced by newer specs soon.

    Personally and for my use Omen's specs is gonna last me for several years, provided what I am doing now is more or less the same in the next few years. I have decided not to spend more than 2.5k on a laptop. No matter how powerful they are they will always be hold back by their portability. I would spend the rest of my money on a desktop when I decide to go back into gaming more.
     
  38. Auduno

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    It's the same for me. The omen is awesome, and if the quality is as good as it seems, it wil last me for a long long time in terms of the hardware.
    For gaming in the future I find it much better to be using a desktop with better keyboard (not chiclet) and bigger screen anyways, so I would rather upgrade my allready decent desktop, both for performance and for comfort. :)
    That being said, for todays games, the Omen performes pretty damn good! :)
     
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    Looks like Windows Update just forced me to update to the new BIOS. I wasn't intending to do that but alas I am now on the new BIOS. Hoping it doesn't introduce any new issues for me. A question though for those who've updated, did it take you a couple minutes on a blank screen? It's been idle in a black screen for about 3 minutes so far. I hope it didn't brick my computer!!

    Update: After waiting about 5 minutes, I hit the power button. Then turned the laptop back on. Everything is back to normal. Close to having a heart attack haha One of many reasons why I wanted to withhold updating the BIOS is the possibility of a deep-seated mobo error. Phew!
     
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  40. amazer

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    Have updated to all bios updates as I got to
    Know on this forum. Did not get any issues on any of the bios for laptop not waking up from sleep or otherwise. Mine is 5000ne version with 256gb ssd. Anyways, on HP page it said that new bios is for improved keyboard response. I could not find anything different in keyboard response after installing it..
     
  41. T2050

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    Haswell mobile first surfaced as the i7-4700MQ in June 2013. Nothing has been added "actual" new since then, no new stepping.

    NVidia 860M first surfaced in devices about this time 1 year ago. This will be reused as the 960M, therefore will remain unchanged.

    The architectural technology is much more than just 6 months, it more like up to 21 months especially that of the CPU and the chipset.

    There is more than just raw speed involved, its the actual architectural changes that occur to improve performance, add new features, increase battery life, reduce thermals.

    Yep there always the quote there always something new around the corner, but it not like we are far away from that particular corner, we are almost going around it right now!
     
  42. almalino

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    My company decided that Lenovo y50-70 has exactly the same internals as Omen but 400 Euros cheaper and bought me a Lenovo :( Lenovo is a nice laptop but 5 mm thicker and 300 gramms heavier then Omen. So if you commute choose Omen because Lenovo is a bit too heavy I must say. But otherwise it is a very good computer with excellent keyboard.
     
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  43. T2050

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    ^ lol your "company" buys you a gaming laptop and you are complaining? If my company brought me a gaming laptop I be thrilled with it either way!

    We just get a thin HP 840 G1 ultrabook, but really is more suitable for work, although I can bring it to its knees very easily as I generally thrash it more with what I do and being always on.
     
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    I do not game on laptop so generally I have no use for fast GPU. Otherwise laptop is nice :) I alos prefer more business looking laptops. Now when I have meetings with collegues I take out freaking gaming laptop when everyone else has business laptops. It feels a bit awkward :)
     
  45. T2050

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    I would think the HP Omen is lesser looking gaming laptop than the Lenovo Y50. That said if you don't use GPU at all then it just a massive waste. You could even be better off with a MacBook Pro 15 Retina, the one with Haswell and Iris graphics and running bootcamp on it, battery are massive if these things 95Wh and very light. The one I got is a little old but I ended up selling about ~7 laptops and keeping pretty much just the Mac, other than that I still have an old Alienware for desktop replacement duties.
     
  46. almalino

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    But Mac Book pro is 700Euros more expensive then Lenovo Y50 1300Euros vs 2000Euros. It is out of the budget and also running Windows in a virtual machine is a bit bad IMHO.
     
  47. Wildo

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    I just forward the HP Omen to my IT manager because I am no longer allowed to bring in my personal laptop for work.... I have a feeling he'll come back with a Lenovo Thinkpad because it's cheaper!.. crossing my fingers though.
     
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    It's great that in some work places they allow a gaming laptop to be used for work . However, Omen is one of the least FLASHY gaming laptop that I have seen, else people generally keep on giggling - "dude, you got a gaming laptop at work?".
    On another note, has anyone found any use of the programmable keys on the left of keyboard? I have not used them even once, since I got the laptop 2 months ago..
     
  49. Auduno

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    Nope, and until I find a way to make them open certain programs etc, they will stay useless...
     
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