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    HP Omen 17 2019 RTX 2080 VBios Modding (190W)

    Discussion in 'HP' started by DaMafiaGamer, Oct 16, 2019.

  1. amihail91

    amihail91 Notebook Evangelist

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    Is something like this possible with the RTX 2060 mobile chips?
     
  2. Z3us_PL

    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    Does it work for Clevo RTX 2080 on mxm?
     
  3. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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  4. axalt

    axalt Notebook Guru

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    Finally got around to putting conductonaut on the CPU and GPU and replacing the thermal pads. Temps are amazing.

    180W GPU BIOS overclocked to 1920 MHZ
    4.1 GHZ on all 8 cores drawing continuous 55 watts

    Been running for 30 minutes and CPU temp is at 79, GPU is at 77.

    Tips: bought some cheap 6.5w/m-k thermal paste and used it on both sides of the thermal pads. I also used a bunch of it in a solid line around the CPU and GPU die to create a physical barrier for escaping liquid metal.
     
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  5. axalt

    axalt Notebook Guru

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    I doubt it. This only works because the alienware machine uses the same chip with a higher wattage in BIOS. As far as i know all 2060s are 90 watts, so there is nothing better for you to flash.

    It might be possible to modify the existing BIOS with a higher wattage but im pretty sure they started encrypting them and thats way above my knowledge level.
     
  6. Terreos

    Terreos Royal Guard

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    So did g-sync still work after flashing the gpu? Not gonna lie after specing one of these out on the hp website this seems like a sleeper machine with a lot of potential. And a good bit cheaper than the other 17” gaming laptops. And only one power brick to boot. ;)
     
  7. axalt

    axalt Notebook Guru

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    You talking about the OMEN? Yeah gsync works, the mini display port doesn't though. you will need to grab a thunderbolt to displayport cable on amazon.

    Its a fantastic value for the money...and it just so happens to be the thinnest and lightest laptop with a maxP 2080 in it (its not thin or light though)

    Whatever you do, dont get the intel optane SSD. Complete garbage. It overheats constantly and was the source of many bluescreens before i replaced it. Its not even that fast either.
     
  8. Terreos

    Terreos Royal Guard

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    Oh I Just meant on the internal display. Over in the Area 51m forums people are talking how the newer screens will lose g-sync when you revert back to the older 200w or 190w bios. So I figured that might be the case here also.

    Oh no worries I’d use conventional m.2 drives. Never saw optane drives being useful and just stick with what works.

    Did they ever give the Omen 17 an update so you can max the fans out? Or is that still just for the Omen 15?
     
  9. axalt

    axalt Notebook Guru

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    Yeah gsync works everywhere. And yes, i would have returned this thing if you couldn't max the fans out. The auto fan curve sucks,it wont even rev up to full after reaching 80 degrees.

    upload_2020-3-8_21-54-14.png
     
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  10. Terreos

    Terreos Royal Guard

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    Ah excellent. Ownordisown mentioned in his review on the unit that at the time it could not max the fans out. But that was 4 months ago. So It is good to see they changed that. I’ll definitely have to keep an eye out of a deal for this because value wise this is hard to beat.
     
  11. blackfire12

    blackfire12 Notebook Enthusiast

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    It's a total sleeper for sure. I can hit 10550 in Time Spy and pulled this off after OCing the video card a bit more: 5b997cde454e498bae8aa9aaecd43b39.jpg
     
  12. Burrick

    Burrick Notebook Consultant

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    I've got a question for those who've done the pads--which thickness did you use? And any difficulty getting the HP pads stuck to the plate off? They seem thicker than my MSI, I've still got a lot of 0.5 mm leftover from my old laptop.
    My repaste with MX4 worked OK but I can't get more than a -0.1V undervolt out of it and temperatures are still bad. I'm wondering if the stock pad is too thick, resulting in poor contact.
     
  13. axalt

    axalt Notebook Guru

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    All the pads are 1.0mm except for two strips on each far side of the GPU. Those are 1.5 mm

    They come off pretty easy but the whole heatsink assembly can be a little stubborn the first time you remove it.

    Dont use pads to try and block off liquid metal around the dies, they dont compress enough and you wont get contact. learned that the hard way.
     
  14. Burrick

    Burrick Notebook Consultant

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    Finally success with the CPU temps, just a very careful repaste with MX4 and it will run at 90W and 80C, stock pads. Doesn't need the clock cap to keep temps down while gaming.
    So now that that's under control, I'm ready to try this but I'm wondering: Do any of these mods keep the display port working? I'm not sure I want to have just the HDMI, since I have both a montior and Rift. I'm not too happy about a USB-C display port adapter.
    Thanks!
     
  15. KTOS_INNY

    KTOS_INNY Newbie

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    Hey,
    What are fan noise after this mod?
    I am in the market for a new 2080 gaming pc, was interested in Omen mainly because of it's relative quiet fans (50db) and reasonable price.

    Does this increase the nosie noticeably without any repasting?
     
  16. DaMafiaGamer

    DaMafiaGamer Switching laptops forever!

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    You will throttle without repasting although the fan curve is so basic it will never ramp up anymore. It already maxes out when the temp gets to around 75c on the gpu.
     
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    KTOS_INNY Newbie

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    ah alright. Thanks :)
     
  18. Thomas Haylock

    Thomas Haylock Newbie

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    Hi guys thanks so much for providing this!
    Dumb question but how do I know if the flash worked or not?
     
  19. Lewis Cui

    Lewis Cui Newbie

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    Thanks for the mod you've provided. It makes my omen run better. By the way, there are ways to allow XTU to modify the frequency of memory to run above 2666, such as 3200. This will further improve the performance of this laptop which has much potential.
     
  20. JCordero31

    JCordero31 Notebook Evangelist

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    how???
     
  21. neit_jnf

    neit_jnf Notebook Guru

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    :vbbiggrin:
    TimeSpy
    3DMark Score
    10980
    Graphics Score
    11264
    CPU Score
    9610

    FireStrike
    3DMark Score
    22757
    Graphics Score
    28617
    Physics Score
    20811
    Combined Score
    9501
     
  22. Lewis Cui

    Lewis Cui Newbie

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    Overall, use EFI boot to rewrite bios parameters, thus can unlock all the options in Intel XTU. Then use XTU to turn the memory frequency. I followed the step of this link but I am afraid it's in Chinese. I tried to find an English source but I failed. I suggest using chrome translate to read.

    https://tieba.baidu.com/p/6497505154

    overwrite bios sounds dangerous, but it's actually safe. The worst case is that you just need to reset the bios configurations through replug the battery.

    Mine is running stably at 2900 MHz with CL 18-18-18-36 and 1.2v.

    Good luck.
     
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  23. amihail91

    amihail91 Notebook Evangelist

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    Interesting - this seems like a HP specific version of this guide over on the Razer forums:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...otential-to-unlock-all-hidden-options.830993/
     
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  24. seanwee

    seanwee Father of laptop shunt modding

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    Didn't realise this thread was still alive.

    In any case i went my own way and shunt modded my GS75 with excellent results.

    Firestrike: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/45605811

    Timespy: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/45669758

    This is still with a 230w power brick. Ken from gentechpc sent me a 330w power brick which should arrive in a week.

    Will be testing more then.
     
  25. rsgametech

    rsgametech Notebook Guru

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    Hi Guys

    I have the opportunity to buy an omen with the 190w vbios, how are the temps and anything I should do or check if I get it?
     
  26. ColinMacLaren

    ColinMacLaren Notebook Geek

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    If it'S on stock paste expect temperatures rising above 100°C and thus thermal throttling constantly. With a good repaste you may end up in the 75°C-85°C degree range under full load with max fans.
     
  27. ColinMacLaren

    ColinMacLaren Notebook Geek

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    How the frack do I download the software package from baidu cloud? No matter where I click it either wants me to open the file in an unknown application format or shows me a qr code.
     
  28. Burrick

    Burrick Notebook Consultant

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    I just wanted to ask people, what Nvidia drivers are you using? I've had a lot of the disappearing 2080 after reboot or shutdown, so I locked down the HP Nvidia driver from Jan and have left it alone. But I'm playing some newer games and having some issues, and would like to get DLSS 2.0 up and running. Are there newer versions that are solid on the Omen? Thanks.
     
  29. neit_jnf

    neit_jnf Notebook Guru

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    I always update to the latest nvidia drivers using nvcleanstall to do a clean installation without any unneeded extras.
     
  30. rsgametech

    rsgametech Notebook Guru

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    So is the HP with 150w one of the better chassis to keep a 2080 cool? I was also looking at a GE 75 raider.
     
  31. seanwee

    seanwee Father of laptop shunt modding

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    I'd say both are about equal, the GE75 has optimus instead of g-sync so it will have longer battery life but no g-sync. The GE75 also has a 280w adapter instead of 230w so it will allow the cpu to stretch its legs more (provided it doesnt thermal throttle).
     
  32. Burrick

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    I would much rather have the MSI.
    I got the HP for a few reasons in descending order: Cost, 4K, thunderbolt.
    There's a lot good about the Omen but some very frustrating deficiencies: The awful M.2 bracket, keyboard/top cover is one unit (I bought a protector), two shared heatpipes on CPU, heatsink mismade with gap on CPU, sharp front edge, the whole thing runs hot even after getting CPU properly cooled.
    Here are the great things about the Omen: CPU isn't limited in any way, Performance Mode allows it run at 90W continuous. GPU cooling is excellent, hence this entire thread. The HP online support/driver availability is very good. The preloaded software isn't that intrusive once you get rid of the antivirus and disable all the telemetry. It's easy to run in a relatively clean-boot configuration with minimal background activity, great for gaming. The back comes off very easily to access everything.
    My last MSI was the best computer I've ever had. I don't know if their quality has held up but I haven't seen GE users with these kinds of problems.
     
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    seanwee Father of laptop shunt modding

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    Adding on to @Burrick 's post, the GE75 has an option in the bios to completely remove the cpu power limit allowing it to turbo to max turbo clock on all cores indefinitely. In addition to that the ram can also be overclocked in the bios.

    Users have also flashed the 200w rtx 2080 vbios from the GT76 for extra performance with great success.

    The Omen is considerably cheaper than the GE75 though.
     
  34. Burrick

    Burrick Notebook Consultant

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    Will that also update the control panel, so all the latest options are available?
     
  35. neit_jnf

    neit_jnf Notebook Guru

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    anybody else getting a blank monitor with usb-c to display port on the latest nvidia drivers?

    446.14 is the last one that is working for me. HDMI works fine on the newer drivers, cant use the built in display port because of the modified VBIOS.
     
  37. neit_jnf

    neit_jnf Notebook Guru

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    yeah Rift-S no longer sees the USB-C>DP... I'm checking nvidia forums, will have to roll back or try stock vbios and miniDP
     
  38. axalt

    axalt Notebook Guru

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    I wonder if a true thunderbolt to displayport would work, but I don't feel like buying one to find out.
     
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    Same problem for me with drivers after 446.14. Blank screen on HDMI. However, disconnecting and reconnecting the monitor's power supply temporarily fixes it until the system turns the monitor off again? Seems like the driver is having issues waking the display.
     
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    Hi there,

    i got my first laptop after a using destop pc for years. It is an Omen Laptop with a 2080 gps, i found this thread here while gathring information about my new toy ^^

    The first thing i did was a repaste with liquid metal, now i thing about this bios stuff here. But i got a G-Sync monitor connencted via minidp, so i stuck atm.

    I just want to know if there is really now way to keep my mini displayport alive???

    Its an OMEN 17-cb0735ng btw.
     
  41. ColinMacLaren

    ColinMacLaren Notebook Geek

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    I have the same problem, stock VBios.
    I could not get a picture on eiter a simple USB-C to HMDI adapter nor the displayports on my HP G2 Thunderbolt Dock.
     
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  42. ColinMacLaren

    ColinMacLaren Notebook Geek

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    I just was informed by NVIDIA that they are aware of the issue (I opened a ticket myself and also liked this thread) and that they are working on it.
     
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    neit_jnf Notebook Guru

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    there's a new HP graphics driver, anybody tried it yet? I going to install it and see.
    NVIDIA High-Definition (HD) Graphics Driver
    sp106167 version 27.21.14.5167
    729.11 MB !!!!
     
  44. neit_jnf

    neit_jnf Notebook Guru

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    so the new HP driver installs 451.67 and still breaks the USBC-DP !! HP's own official driver! SO back to 446.14 it is.
     
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    axalt Notebook Guru

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    that's ridiculous. I guess ill open a ticket with HP just to get some more eyes on it.
     
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  46. OneSickOmen17t

    OneSickOmen17t Notebook Consultant

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    My 2020 150w OEM with +200/+800mhz OC 4K rendering on Ultra on D2 and Warzone on the GPU can barely break the 63*c. If even that after hours.
     
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    i know is a different thread but i am hoping someone could help with a crossflash vbios

    so i got a laptop too with the refreshed rtx 2060 this is set to 90w and i wanted to know if is possible to me boot this 115w msi bios if this will work on my laptop is from avell but avell buys from clevo/tongfang. thanks for anyone can help me, if this will work what software can i use to flash it, if it fails to rewrite or break my gpu could i rewrite it in the chip bios?

    follow link with my gpu-z information and my bios: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/181I9iAn9pkqxZDbRXaSe1H0IfOgGkbUh?usp=sharing
     
  48. Sickox

    Sickox Notebook Enthusiast

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    I got the same laptop but when i try to overclock gpu it crashes if i went more than +150/700mhz is that normal
     
  49. OneSickOmen17t

    OneSickOmen17t Notebook Consultant

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    So after the last few updates I can't go above 140/700 in Warzone or I risk crashing. I'm running 150/750 on most other stuff but I don't have a huge library by any means. Also silicon lottery has parts in it.
     
  50. axalt

    axalt Notebook Guru

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    that's insane. did they change the cooling for the 2020 model? My 2019 17t settles in the mid 80s in CPU intensive games WITH LIQUID METAL.
     
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