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    HP Omen 17 2019 RTX 2080 VBios Modding (190W)

    Discussion in 'HP' started by DaMafiaGamer, Oct 16, 2019.

  1. OneSickOmen17t

    OneSickOmen17t Notebook Consultant

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    I believe they did. I havent seen it go past 65*c for anything ever. The CPU on the other hand is higher. I did the most updated SDK from HP for Omen Command Center. Now its 90-95*c average while on performance. On Default with max fans its 80-85*c. I do plan on repasting with Thermal Grizzly and replace the thermal pads if any with Thermal Grizzly Minus 8 pads. Whats a good game to really test? Control?

    Also since the last update to Warzone I can only go +140/700 OC on GPU and not worry about a game crash.
     
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    axalt Notebook Guru

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    Can anyone confirm that the latest bios for 17t 2019 (17t-cb000) F.32 still allows undervolting?
     
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    hmm, i wonder if they separated the heatpipes. That's a pretty big difference between CPU and GPU.
    Rockstar games always give me the highest temps. RDR2, GTAV maxed out.
    you could also just launch a cpu stress test and multiple GPU benchmarks at the same time. AIDA64 + Haven + Valley is how i test my overclock.
     
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    2020 Omen opened up.jpg
     
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    axalt Notebook Guru

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    looks the same to me. You must just have better contact or a better paste job on your GPU.
    What do your temps look like if you set max fan? I never use the default fan profile because it never reaches max, comfort gives you the same 35w TDP limit but lets the fans ramp up to maximum.
     
  6. OneSickOmen17t

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    I use default and max always when gaming now. If not the fan profile is too weak. Performance allows for 97*c and I prefer to keep them around 80*c for CPU. GPU doesn't change much at all. Yea the GPU has to be good but the CPU is ****. Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut and Minus 8 pads are in the mail. Not sure if I needed the pads but I guess I'll find out.
     
  7. axalt

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    Do you have throttlestop configured? Set an alarm profile to bump your clocks down at 90C. You can also tweak your TDP limits so that it cant reach that high. I have mine set to 55W on short and long but thats with liquid metal.

    Also, when you repaste, clamp down your CPU all the way before doing your GPU.
     
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  8. OneSickOmen17t

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    I was using TPL at 45/55 but I stopped messing around with it for now. Went back to stock which is 90/107 on default and performance. The Omen Command Center with the newest SDK pack really drops it basically 10*c unless it's Rocket League that will eventually get to 90-95*c no matter what on default @250fps.

    Appreciate the tip. However I thought the screws were numbered. For removal you go 8,7,6, etc right?
     
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  9. axalt

    axalt Notebook Guru

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    yeah they're numbered, and i think the CPU is 1-4 but if its not i would still do the CPU first.

    You could try something like process lasso to permanently set the CPU affinity for certain games to 4 or 6 cores instead of 8. I had to disable core 0 and 1 when playing heavy games because that core gets way hotter than the rest.
     
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  10. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    From my understanding the 2080 Super and 2080 Max P are essentially the same performance. The 2080 Super has slightly more shaders but runs at lower clocks to balance it out. That may be why lower heat if he has the 2020 super model as it's not clocking as high and therefore maybe running a little more optimally on the clocks/power/heat curve.
     
  11. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    2080 Max P max out at 2100MHz while 2080 Super can reach 2160MHz. Minor clock speed advantage for the Super card.
     
  12. OneSickOmen17t

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    I believe the wattages have alot to do with the performance as well. Highest I've seen a 2080 Max-Q was 115w. My super is 150w but i've seen peaks showing 180 when I first got it. Seems to be 165 or so peak now. However I'm assuming if you mod the vbios to say 190w on the MAx-Q it'll work but overheat?
     
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  13. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    At if it's Max Q that will mean a lot. Apologies I had thought we were referring to a 2080 Max P and 2080 Super Max P
     
  14. seanwee

    seanwee Father of laptop shunt modding

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    My FS and TS graphics score are so close to yours lol
     
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    I though some of you might get a kick out of this. Here's what a shunt nodded GS66 with the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q looks like. Thanks again to seanwee for all his help with the mod.

    Officially broke 20000+ overall score and 24000+ graphics score in Firestrike. Highest score on the leaderboards for the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q.

    GS66 Stealth

    Specs:
    CPU - i7-10750H (undervolted -215.7mv Core, -107.4 cache)
    GPU - RTX 2070 Super Max-Q shunt modded to 115-125W and overclocked
    Ram - 32gb 2666MHz dual channel (stock)

    Upgrades:
    CPU/GPU - repasted with Thermalright Liquid Metal Silver King
    VRMs/Nand - repasted with K5 pro
    VRMs - 2 extra heatpipes for cooling

    Official Score:
    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/23446724

    Leaderboards:
    https://www.3dmark.com/newsearch#ad...de=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=
    Capture2.PNG
     
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  16. Alexrose1uk

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    That's impressive. You two aren't far off my best with a 150w MaxP, albeit I don't have one of the 180/190/200W vbios versions or Super.

    My 2080 OG is still holding its own though :) I got this machine for a great price too on last years BF sales, £2.1k with 3 year warranty, so considering I'm unmodded and all I've done is a thermal repaste and a bit of UV/OC, I will take that :)

    Does show how power limited the MaxQ chips are though. (Also worries me we won't see any good upgrades in laptops from Ampere as sounds like power is going up!)

    Given my 2080 doesn't get mondo hot either, makes me wish HP gave a bit more power to the 2080 Max P (say 175/180W sustained) on the Omen 17, given the slightly beefier cooling and the improvements noted with the better thermal paste, I'm pretty sure it could take it, given the 8 core CPU is going to lend about as much heat as possible and I'm still under thermal thresholds. Sounds like the VRM is more than capable, as is the 330W power brick.

    You guys are tempting me to try the power modded VBIOS's.

    Edit: Damn now I'm really tempted. Do any of the VBIOS with higher TDPs not break the mini-DP? If they all break the mini-DP I'll stick with stock as the mini-DP is more important to me than pushing a little further when this machine is doing well right now.
     
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  17. Redbeard

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    Yes - I took the plunge and updated to F.32. I am still able to undervolt my 9880H using TS and XTU.
     
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  18. werdmonkey4321

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    I now have the highest Time Spy graphics and overall score in the world for the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q. There is still a lot of room left to overclock the card, but I think I can just leave it here now that I have the highest score worldwide for both Fire Strike and Time Spy. I'll leave a little bit of room to play around with later on when I get the overclocking itch.

    GS66 Stealth

    Specs:
    CPU - i7-10750H (undervolted -215.7mv Core, -107.4 cache)
    GPU - RTX 2070 Super Max-Q shunt modded to 115-125W and overclocked
    Ram - 32gb 2666MHz dual channel (stock)

    Upgrades:
    CPU/GPU - repasted with Thermalright Liquid Metal Silver King
    VRMs/Nand - repasted with K5 pro
    VRMs - 2 extra heatpipes for cooling

    Official Score:
    https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13807293

    Leaderboards:
    https://www.3dmark.com/newsearch#advanced?test=spy P&cpuId=&gpuId=1325&gpuCount=0&deviceType=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams= Capture3.PNG
     
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  19. neit_jnf

    neit_jnf Notebook Guru

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    Guys NVIDIA 452.22 hotfix is out and the USB-C Display finally works!! Tested it with Rift S using a USB-C ThunderBolt to DisplayPort adapter.
     
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    Hi,

    won´t work for me using a monitor with USB to DVI cable. Can you post some infos about your adapter, pls?
     
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  21. axalt

    axalt Notebook Guru

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    a usb-c to DP cable is 15 bucks on amazon and it works just the same. Im running 1440p ultrawide (3k res i think?) at 100hz over usb-c with no problems.
    Ive been using the 180w bios and temps are great. in a year or so when the 2080 starts falling behind maybe ill try the 200w. there is plenty of power available with the cpu limited to 50w. most games only need 35w to hold 4.1ghz on all cores but even the most cpu intensive games have never needed more than 50w.
     
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    Hey,

    how did you get your USB-C port to work? I tried the latest hotfix driver today, with the 180W and 190W bios, no chance.
     
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    axalt Notebook Guru

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    Im still using 446.14. I haven't even tried the hotfix. figured i would wait until the official release.
     
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    My wife tends to get angry if I start ordering loads of cables so sounds like I will need to skip for now :)
     
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    neit_jnf Notebook Guru

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    So my main NVME (stock SAMSUNG MZVLB1T0HBLR-000H1) is overheating during gaming causing crashes, smart error and no bootable drive error. Goes back to normal after a reboot. It doesn't look like it throttles at all when it should and just crashes.

    First time I saw this behavior was when I added the second NVME (Samsung 981a to match) so I removed the useless stock aluminum heat shield and replaced it with individual copper ones with gelid pads and it drastically lowered temps.

    I recently updated to F33 BIOS and just started playing SW Squadrons and this started happening again. Anyone with this problem? Any ideas?
     
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  27. Feuertanz

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    Wow, YOU are the man!!!

    I ordered the adapter shortly after your mail, but did not feel like trying it right away.

    Driver down, bios flashing, driver up, not working, aggravate, everything back again, I didn't feel like it.

    This morning I flashed the 190w bios, before that DDU, autoupdates turned off...and what's up: IT WORKS!

    With the latest driver 456.55, with G-Sync and much faster!

    Finally Biosmod and Monitor via Mini-DP, thanks !

    Here a comparison with 3d-Mark:

    Before:

    [​IMG]

    After:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hello, can i have question ? How u get 10 000 score from this i9 9880h? I reach only 9 000 on 4,1ghz for all cores... Whithout powerthrotling or thermal... i already have repaste, but only with TG Kryonaut... And after flash on 200W vbios i reach on GPU only 10300 max score in Timespy :-/
     
  29. OneSickOmen17t

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    What vbios did you use? I've only seen the 190w so far.
     
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    I use 200W Vbios from this post... Alienware Area 51m
     
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    Ahh I wasn't sure that was compatible. Thank you.
     
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    Looking at the above scores, I must have a fairly decent chip then, as I've managed to hit ~10500 Timespy GPU score with only overclocking and no VBIOS changes. Makes me wonder what mine would do with MOAR POWAAA :)

    If I ever do get a USB-C to Mini-DP adaptor (to ensure the external monitor still works), will have to give the VBIOS mod a try.
    Still wish there was a higher wattage VBIOS that didn't break ports though, I'd have tried it already if there was haha
     
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    And how much CPU score u have? I cant have more than 8500... With i9 on 4ghz....
     
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    See my signature the link is there. Around 9600-700.

    It's undervolted, tdp in performance mode and thermal paste redone.
     
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    This bios work in Clevo RTX2080 ?
    90.04.3B.00.79
     
  36. OneSickOmen17t

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    Can anyone please help me understand how to do the flash? I downloaded and extracted everything to desktop folder and got CMD into the fs directory but im stuck there. Please help. Trying to flash the 200w.

    Update: I figured out how to do it. I flashed and reset but it did nothing to my wattage. Still 150w. Maybe the 2020 model is blocked from doing this? Do I need to run CMD in administrator mode? Possibly won't take due to being a 2080 Super?
     
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    Hi guys,
    since in the other thread no one could answer. I have the same question as Klicho. Can we flash it onto our cards, see my post:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.809621/page-399#post-11090261

    Would be awesome if we could do it. Because I'm always running into powerlimit throttle despite my card (and CPU as well) staying on low temps. I even could get my RTX 2080 to 1950MHz@906mV but it still wants to draw more to hold this speed.

    Thank you all in advance.
     
  40. DaMafiaGamer

    DaMafiaGamer Switching laptops forever!

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    It depends on which RTX 2080 mxm you have, is it g-sync or non g-sync? Can you go into device manager and show me the hardware ID of the graphics card as follows:

    [​IMG]
     
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    No problem, my Hardware-ID is the following:
    PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1ED0&SUBSYS_77101558&REV_A1

    And it is a G-Sync one.

    I would like to bump it up only one notch like your 180W vBios on the first page. Could you provide also different ones with let's say like 160W and 170W and G-Sync? Maybe 10W increase is enough to let it keep 1950MHz idk.

    Strange thing that I noticed is also that in GPU-Z render test it can keep 1950@905mV but in 3Dmark or in gaming it always drops because of power limit?!?
     
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    Hello, I just got an Hp omen 17 rtx 2080 super i7 10750H, I wanna ask if the vbios will work for this model, also if someone can show me how I can go about it. Thanks in advance
     
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    Hi,

    I tried this on my HP Omen 17-cb1xxx with and i7-10750h and 2080 Super 150w gpu but the cmd returned the error below:

    Error: nvflash64 ERROR: NV_UCODE_CMD_COMMAND_PREP failed

    Any ideas what's going on? My max temps are low so wanted to give this a try.

    Edit: Turns out I have the 2020 model I BELIEVE with the 2080 Super. Any ideas if there is a modded vBios for that or if this can be applied to that? Couldn't find anything in my research which is surprising.
     
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    Please lemme know if you find a vbios, i also have the same model
     
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    I did some extensive Google research and found a few hints at people using a 200w dell vbios but it caused a black screen after a system restart. I can't seem to find the file anyway doesn't look like it'll happen.

    Will just have to stick to overclocking/undervolting in terms of modding for performance.
     
  46. werdmonkey4321

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    You can always shunt mod your GPU if you are comfortable with soldering. It's not a hard mod to do.
     
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    After some more research, I have good news to report for Omen 17 2020 users with a 2080 Super - there is a 200W BIOS for us!

    It comes courtesy of the Clevo XMG Ultra 17 which is a 200W G-Sync variant - BIOS is here: VGA Bios Collection: Clevo RTX 2080 Super 8 GB | TechPowerUp

    I've done some quick initial testing running HWiNFO64 and the Heaven/Time Spy benchmarks and I can confirm the GPU draws between 198 - 214W under stress and maintains a higher boost clock (I am overclocked by +160Mhz on the core anyway).

    I've finally breached 10k on Time Spy & it took my Heaven benchmark score from 3425 to 3770, min FPS from 36 to 40 & max FPS from 281 to 310.

    I've already repasted with Gelid GC-Extreme and temperatures compared with 150W are around 2-3c higher (70-74c on GPU now). I suspect on a long gaming session I will see that increase slightly but the cooling after a repaste gives headroom for this BIOS.

    I use a HP USB-C dock which still works, HDMI still works but I don't know about the Mini-DP as I don't use it so that is not a deal breaker for me.

    Credit goes to DaMafiaGamer for posting the original instructions in this thread.
     

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    Excellent can you give me the specifics of the overclock settings you used?
     
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    Just on the overclock, I've used MSI Afterburner to add 160/675MHz on the core & memory and that's it. Hope that helps :)
     
  50. OneSickOmen17t

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    Wow dude thank you! I tried the vbios from the first post in here and it never worked. I gave up. Now I can finally have a 200w card!
     
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