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    HP Omen X Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Graedon, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. Paul16

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    I think this feature is locked by manufacturer
     
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    Another big drawback to this laptop is the complete lack of fan control. I think that is a huge part of why the temperatures are so high. There's still a way to change the fan controls, but it's not easy. Has anyone successfully figured out how to do it? I know there's a way to do it with notebook fancontrol by changing the embedded controller hexadecimals. I'm trying to figure that out currently, but it's a pain unless someone knows if this bios is used in other laptops.
     
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    It's going back, guys. It's been fun, but this is my second one and the temps are still bad and the display's response time is so slow I can't play on it. It might as well be a 60hz display. Gonna go with either the AW 17 R4 1440p 120hz or the MSI GT73VR with the 120hz 1080p panel.
     
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    Sorry to see ya go Tmenzzz.
    Just finished the repaste with Kryonaut, temps are improved for sure, but not incredible. Still, maintaining 69/70c on the GPU and 84C on the CPU at 38x and -.140v. Nothing to sing about but it works fine for me.

    Unfortunately it seems the priority of the laptop is to lower the fan speed, rather than lower the temps. If we can control the fan speeds somehow, this laptop will be killer.

    edit^^^Those temps are while running Vermintide 2. That games freaking evil on CPU temps
     
  5. Paul16

    Paul16 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think this thread is one of the biggest i've read about Omen X. It seems this laptop is a bit niche product
     
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    I agree, not sure why this computer didn’t receive that much publicity. Big youtubers like Dave2D and Linus haven’t touched this laptop yet, and I never see anyone advertising it. It’s such a bargain for the performance too, and HP even offers a 144hz option now (assholes waited til after I ordered mine!)
     
  7. Shark00n

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    Do your units also drop to 30Hz when not connected to AC?

    You can ufotest.com to check

    I’ve never seen a laptop do this.
     
  8. Mobius 1

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    I'll be getting one soon for review
     
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  9. Assault

    Assault Notebook Evangelist

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    Testufo.com showed it dropping to 62fps off the wall, using Google chrome.

    Mobius 1 post a link when you finish :)
     
  10. Riktar

    Riktar Notebook Evangelist

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    I recently placed the order for this one. I'm coming from a Sager np87xx with a 980m and for a month or so had a Alienware 17 r4 with a 7820hk & 1080 (3 units but ultimately sent back due to inconsistent build and/or stutter). I've been shopping around for a system and started it at the gs73vr / ge73vr and slowly worked my way up to wanting more power and thicker and here I am lol.

    My brother ordered it before me and I got to extensively play with it (7820hk + 1080 & 144hz UWVA display). We tried calling the customer support to inquire about exactly the type of display and got no information. Once my brother's unit arrived we did some digging and found out it's an (AUO309D) i'm not getting any other hits other than the review of the ROG g703 chimera which confirms it is an IPS with 144hz... if it is, why the hell are they not leading with that instead of the very obscure (LCD 17.3 FHD AG LED UWVA flatfGSync144Hz)! I followed the review on the ownordisown video and overclocked it to 4.1 with a -.120mv undervolt and temps went from 87 ish to hovering around 79-81 (stock paste). It's a bit bulkier and heavier than the 17 r4 and significantly more so than my Sager but I think this might be a keeper. I'm surprised there isn't more hype/info around this one.

    I'd say build quality is slightly superior / on part than the AW 17 R4 (3 different units and all creaked somewhere). The AW 17 did have a bit more alumn./magnesium and the bottom panel felt better but both have 0 flex and are built like tanks. You can tell the Omen X did cheap out on the bottom panel but makes up for it by being absolutely silent and not a peep from any panel. It is heavier and slightly thicker than the "slimmer" AW 17 r4 but it's no zephyrus. They both have RGB LED zones for fun but AW is "edgier" the tron LEDs are sweet lol but the Omen X's lights are pretty sweet. My one ding on the unit my brother received is it has more back-light bleed than I'd like to see, coincidentally that is a also a con for the ROG G703 with the 144hz display. It's not a big issue and it isn't noticeable unless it's pitch black with a black screen, not something you'd notice right away. I'm a bit peculiar and run a thorough set of tests, this being one of them. Otherwise the screen is absolutely gorgeous, no fine horizontal lines like on some of the AW, and 144hz is smooooth.
     
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  11. Riktar

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    Hey Shark00n, I remember you from the AW 17 r4 forums! Funny we both end up here.
     
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    Thank you for sharing your experience. I start to think I really want to buy it.
    My search began from MSI GT73VR. But for me it looks very cheap. Its perfect for 16 years old gamer, but not for me.
    My next stop was Acer Predator 17x. This is my Omen main opponent.

    Next I looked to AW 17 R4 but has lots of negative reviews.
    Sager looks very odd to me. It is somekind of machine monster that was born on a metal melting factory. It is very powerful but I wouldn’t go with it to a coffee shop even for hard gaming session. )))
    Now i am here
     
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  13. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think the sager 15" LGA (clevo p751tm) has more a subdued look compared to the predator, omen, and msi G-series.
     
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    Battery life was my firts concern. Sager laptop battery is more of UPS.
     
  15. Riktar

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    I'm fortunate to have a Microcenter 10 mins away so i get my hands on most of the offerings (even the monstrous Predator 21x). While the Predator 17x was nice, for the price point i'd expect more than flimsy soft touch plastic. The MSI are really good on paper but hands on, there is way too much flex and bendy plastics. I tend to gravitate to something more subdued that I can either turn off when I don't want to come off as gamer boy-ish and on when i need to nerd out lol. I'm still in shock at the 144hz ips display (with relatively fast response time based on the ROG g703 review) that no outlet has mentioned. I'm positive that a solid display with minimal bleed would make this the perfect option (in my case anyways)

    Sagers are solid, I've had them for the past 4-5 years and they're very potent machines and all around performers, they're just a bit bland and generic looking. They do have some tempting offers but it seems that they don't in this particular bracket (either slim or full on DTR). Battery is going to be hit or miss, i'm surprised the Omen X is even claiming 4 hours on a g sync 1080...
     
  16. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    that's true

    very unfortunate that they didn't include the switching to igpu like msi

    but alienware with g-sync, also don't have the igpu feature. not sure about the acer 17x
     
  17. Shark00n

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    Yeah! what made you switch?



    Would it be possible to exchange the 120hz panel for the 144hz also offered by HP?
    The 144hz option isn’t available where I live, but I might switch the panel for the 144hz one if it’s a straight fit at a good price.

    The AW 17 R4 had a QHD 120hz option. That panel was available on chinese sites for a reasonable 120$.

    Anyone got a part # on that?

    Would this be compatible?
    https://m.ebay.com/itm/144hz-17-3-L...1080-FHD-IPS-Display-eDP-40PINS-/232056993198


    Thanks
     
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  18. Paul16

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    What is sRGB coverage of this 144hz panel?
     
  19. Riktar

    Riktar Notebook Evangelist

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    I think you hit it the nail on the head with your take on the AW 17 R4, I genuinely wanted to like the unit, but the display had too many issues. Dell has exceptional customer service and build times are significantly better than HP but they sent me 3 units (1st had dead pixels, 2nd stutters and horizontal lines on display, 3rd was shoddy build and just poor overall). despite being so big it had a very slim feel to it, but unfortunately I just wasn't able to get into it.

    I would assume it should be a simple swap since it's built for it. I don't have a part number unfortunately. I mean even HP techs don't have details... which is absurd. they don't even know if it's IPS or TN. I had to look into the device manager and mine for the AUO309 bit.
     
  20. Riktar

    Riktar Notebook Evangelist

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    per the g703 review with the same auo309d -
    "92% sRGB and 60% AdobeRGB ... However, in terms of the reaction speed, TN panels have an advantage most of the time. With a relatively fast 11.2 ms (black-to-white) and 17.6 ms (gray-to-gray), the Asus G703 is an exception here. The IPS displays of the Schenker XMG Ultra 17 and Acer Predator 17 X need more than 20 and 40 ms respectively."

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-...-GTX-1080-Full-HD-Laptop-Review.287134.0.html

    While I do value a faster response time, for the games I play (MMOs) 5ms or 10ms isn't going to make a huge difference. Once I make it big on the MLG arena i'll upgrade :)
     
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    I want gaming laptop for 3d content creation on the go so 144hz is not so important. I even want to downscale 4k screen to 1080p to improve battery life without sacrificing sRGB coverage
     
  22. Shark00n

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    But the 120hz panel is so damn blurry! :(
     
  23. Riktar

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    Yeah, if color accuracy is the primary focus, most of the gaming units have displays intended for other purposes. The new Dell 4k displays (XPS and Precision models) come with full 100% argb coverage. The XPS only pushes a 1050 or 1060 i believe buy the precision can be outfitted with a quadro... obviously this comes at a cost.

    you found the 120hz blurry? What tests do you run for it?
     
  24. Shark00n

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    Tested with my own two eyes.exe
     
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    The 120hz panel is... acceptable. Not a fan of matte displays. At least it's bright enough! :rolleyes: I do wish I could put my eyes on the 144hz option to see if its worth a damn or not...

    I do also have the XPS 15 with the 4k screen, that sucker is beautiful to look at, as long as you don't play Overwatch on it lol.
     
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    BTW just thought I'd throw this out there, if anyone is looking for a good backpack to carry their Omen in, give this Lenovo bag a go. The X fits in it perfectly, and there is a generous amount of padding completely around all sides and faces. Quality is decent. I'm used to TUMI bags, but hardly anything holds this fat monster lol...

    https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Gamin...099344&sr=8-1&keywords=lenovo+gaming+backpack
     
  27. Mobius 1

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    I use everki titan, works for everything up to alienware 18 and p870xx series
     
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    That's a big bag. How's it holding up to use?
     
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    still as good as the 1st day I got it
     
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    That's a nice one. I had an everki Titan for my everyday then went with a slappa messenger for my 93xx. I doubt I'll be on the go much with this.
     
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    Did you make sure to download the latest drivers? :p I've never seen the 120hz one and honestly didn't get to game on the 144hz but ran firestrike, heaven, browsed the internet. Interesting...
     
  32. Shark00n

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    Yes.

    The response times on the 120Hz are just abismal
     
  33. Riktar

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    was the response time just as bad on the AW 17 r4 QHD? maybe i'm just not good at picking these up...
     
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    >40ms iirc
     
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    Recently bought my Omen X used from eBay nearly new. The previous owner had HP replace the 4k G-Sync screen due to dead pixels and they replaced it with a standard 4K screen. The laptop is still under warranty, so would it be possible to have HP "fix" their mistake and get the current screen replaced with the screen it originally came with?
     
  36. Riktar

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    Would be interesting... you could just ask but usually warranty doesn't transfer unless otherwise noted.
     
  37. Shark00n

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    The 120hz on the omen is easily double.

    With the 144hz screen this thing would be a beast! I’d love to get my hands on one but they aren’t available in europe.

    I might just buy the 144 ips screen from ebay, I found one for the Asus G703, wonder if it’s a straight fit
     
  38. Mobius 1

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    link me that ebay listing?
     
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    He's got that on all his LCD ads
     
  42. Riktar

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    Did you try calling HP parts?
     
  43. Shark00n

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    No such service in my country I think.

    Is the 144Hz unit straight from HP or was it only available thru some retail stores like CUKUSA.com?
     
  44. Riktar

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    ordered straight from HP.com Option: "LCD 17.3 FHD AG LED UWVA flatfGSync144Hz"
     
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    think it's even cheaper if you have a HP account
     
  46. Paul16

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    Was it the only concern about Predator?
     
  47. Riktar

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    The predator x is a solid performer but honestly overpriced for what you're getting. 75hz display, plastics galore, typical "gamer 4 life" black and red scheme, and more flex than the US gymnastics team... Not worth the premium price tag imho. Not sure if you can call acer and bargain with them like alienware and hp... But if it was right around 1.8-1.9k I can see the appeal but $2800... Hell no.
     
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    Can anyone be so kind as to provide a HP part # for the 144Hz screen option?
     
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    When I get mine I will provide to you, but I won't be getting it till the end of april (and that's if their manufacturing is fast enough)
     
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    It's literally my only complaint about the laptop. That and maybe the lack of a subwoofer, although the sound is still pretty competent, very clear until high volumes, just not that much punch.

    The 120Hz screen is really bellow average when it comes to pixel response times. Even just scrolling this forum looks blurrier than others. In twitch games it's noticeable. In PUBG it's pretty much always blurry because of all that grass moving across the screen.
    The 144Hz IPS with the 1080 should be a real treat.
     
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