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    HP Pavilion dv3000 series 1st thoughts...

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Johnny T, Apr 6, 2008.

  1. n20nine

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    yea i gotta agree..a little more bling that we need...i am sure the special edition later on might be nice...want a dark coloured dv3000..
     
  2. lappyforphotoshop

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    It looked very futuristic , didn't it?

    I love it this time, last time , I could not see it very close. the closer you get to it , the better it looks like, I think.

    The material felt like metal although it is plastic, how HP made it so nice?

    One notable feature I found in it that my 14.1 does not have is the 3D HD guard protection that found in many of HP business lines.

    Also, the latest Compaq Pressario B(12.1 ultra portable models) series have this feature.

    Now, it is very expensive here since only one configuration for it , but I think there will be many configurations for it and price will come down very quick, HP always do this , at inital launch set the price quite high as high as possible , and then as sells decreased in a few weeks , HP drops its price.

    So I never buy any HP at its initial launch.

    When I bought DV2760 it was sold for 39900baht , but was 49900baht when it was out first time here(3 weeks before I bought it).

    Now , its price went up again to be 41000baht, so when you buy a HP in Asia , wait a few weeks usually a couple of weeks and then no more waiting.
     
  3. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    Nice pics Johnny T! Giving me a much better idea than the salon / photoshop enhanced pics I posted.

    For the silver finish surrounding the keyboard, I hope it doesn't chip off after a while, cause it will look very bad if it starts chipping off paint or whatever the top layer coating is.

    lappyforphotoshop, I think the price went up a bit again is due to inflation or exchange rate. :p
     
  4. stewie

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    Damn, Mainland China gets a better specs model than HK atm... :(

    They get the DV3013TX using the T8100 CPU instead, this model would be perfect for me, just slightly more expensive than the DV3022TX.

    Price: Y10,300.00 (Approx. US$1,473.05)
     
  5. lappyforphotoshop

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    yeah, I dont need anything more powerful than the T8xxx either. in my area , I do have only one configuration choice with T9300, 3gb ,NV8400GS with 256mb and 320gb HD storage for 54000baht (1742US).

    I wish I could get it with t8100 and 250gb hd space for about 1400US.

    I am envious of Chinese buyers , in SE Asia all brands charge more than they do in the US, Canada , China and Japan.

    All electronics are cheaper in the US, China and Japan.

    My money is becoming cheaper and cheaper in Thailand, I wish I had EURO not USD.
     
  6. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    I think the one available in your area is the same as the one in Taiwan, the DV3007, highest spec I've seen so far.

    I hope this is just a pre-release test that HP's marketing team is doing, cause it's not normal that there is only one spec of choice. Also, the DV3000 is not officially on any HP site yet, this thing is suppose to be officially released in May. So I hope in May we will get more choices.
     
  7. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    stewie What the deuce?

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    stewie What the deuce?

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    ***edited***
     
  10. Dead1nside

    Dead1nside Notebook Geek

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    Is the rubber looking stub/button to the right of the headphone jacks a Wireless kill switch? I'm glad that you can already get it in better configurations.
     
  11. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Interesting, it might well be. It is annoying indeed that you dont get it in some models, but I do only my 3yrs+ notebook... :p
     
  12. timtravel42

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    thanks for the great pics!!
    that thing is shiny!!
    +rep
     
  13. Dead1nside

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    I wish it came with the Verve imprint finish and a black keyboard.
     
  14. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    Overall, it's a good package with nice features, but the T5550 is a major turn off. :no:
     
  15. Dead1nside

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    Is the keyboard slick/shiny?
     
  16. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    The keyboard itself is not shinny, only the surround parts are shinny, it reminds me of the old Nokia 8860. :p
     
  17. Dead1nside

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    Thanks stewiegriffin, I don't like the feel of the HP non-slick keyboards, they feel cheap to me. That's put me off waiting for the dv3000, if it ever does come to the West.
     
  18. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    No problem. By the way, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by slick and non-slick. It seems like it's the same type of keyboard as the TX2000 series. There was a DV2700 series next to the DV3022TX yesterday, I didn't find the keyboard any different except for the color of the keys.
     
  19. Dead1nside

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    I don't know if all DV2xxx have the same keyboard as the DV2799 - but this model is the only one of that series I have had experiences with. The keyboard is shiny, the keys are smooth shiny coated plastic. Unlike some on larger models of HP laptop, where the surface of the keys is not perfectly smooth, not reflective. It feels a bit like those white clunky old keyboards you used to get.

    EDIT: When more pictures come out, I'll try and have a better look as well.
     
  20. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    Sorry, I don't have much experiences with different HP keyboards, but here are some pics I found that might give you a better idea... the second pic does look like there is some reflective coating, also according to Johnny T's posted description, it said there is an anti-scratch coating on the keyboard?

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    :)
     
  21. n20nine

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    looked at the kb..the keys are curved nicely for your fingers...nice...
     
  22. Dead1nside

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    I had a look at a few HPs in Curry's today including the dv2750 had a non-slick/grainy keyboard unlike the dv2799.

    Thanks for the photos, I think I'll just wait and see if the new T Series Thinkpads or this DV3000 fit my needs.
     
  23. frychiko

    frychiko Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for all the pics so far for those who posted them.

    I configured a dv3000 and put it in my cart with a T9300.. damn this is really cheap! I ain't going to buy it though because I don't like the design.

    Anyway a few more pics.. I get a shiver just imagining touching this thing because it looks like it would be really cold heh...

    http://allabout.co.jp/computer/notepc/closeup/CU20080411A/index2.htm
     
  24. n20nine

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    the thinkpads should be out mid of this year...its a business machine...much well built..the hp pavilion is a consumer line product..do expect some difference in quality, and the thinkpads are gonna be much more expensive.
     
  25. Dead1nside

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    Why don't you like the design frychiko?

    Yeh Thinkpads are very, very expensive, especially if you want top spec that's why I started looking at HP, feature filled and stylish for a very reasonable amount. I'm just concerned that I'm going to be travelling a lot and this'll get crushed in my back pack/slowly start to malfunction due to extra stress. Since it'll be my main machine it's also critical that I like the keyboard, that's why I'm trying to find out what it's like - from the extra pictures just posted sometimes it looks like it's slick/ sometimes it looks as though it might have that grainy, plasticky feel.
     
  26. frychiko

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    It's just the metallic parts that I don't like.. everything else looks fine, just personal preference.. I just went ahead and ordered a Sony Vaio SZ with XP SP2.
     
  27. Johnny T

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    Good choice...SZ is very nice... :D
     
  28. Binu Ud

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    Thanks for all the photo's Guys. I bought a dv3005tx. For approx 1350USD. (54000 Indian Rupees). Got a backpack free too. I was using a acer 4710 and dell 700m before this. The finish is good. Light on weight too. The screen is damn too good. Only issue is the laptop gets smudged easily with lot of my finger prints :). But anyways they can be cleaned. The laptop literally glimers, lots of steel like feel on the keyboard. The keyboard feels good and different too. Sort of soft and looks steelish.
    If any one of you have installed windows xp on dv3000 pls let me know. Not sure
    if I can ask doubts abt drivers in this thread. Anyways, the finger print reader is from 'validity inc' XP is detecting the fingerprint reader after installing the vista driver. But the verisoft credential manager does not detect the fingerprint reader. Any help is greatly appreciated.
     
  29. lappyforphotoshop

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    you are very lucky being in Japan now , I know it can be CTO in Japan but in Thailand ,we 've got only one very expensive configuration.

    my sister can get it from hP directly while I have to go a gloomy , stinky mall in BKK ,just to see it.

    the keyboard was good , the case felt very solid and the metalic color is cool , I hope you like it.
     
  30. lappyforphotoshop

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    dont believe in thinkpad-built-like-a tank-BS, it is not any special. if it is, cost more than it does.

    why IBM dropped out of this game because they could not offer anything cheap , we replace it every year now, why should they be as well built as they used to be in 90th? many of thinkpad IBM legend believers never get it clearly and react to any one point it out as though their own kid was embrrassed.

    they are all disposable so forget about thinkpad BS seriously.
     
  31. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    I'm not sure about Thailand, but assuming Thailand's HP operations are similar to HP Singapore and Malaysia, you can configure an HP business notebook from HP direct and their channel resellers.
     
  32. lappyforphotoshop

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    the Business models are custamizable at Thailand , Malaysia and Siangpore HP.

    but I am talking about the DV3000, and I already have HP business 8510P , which my boss bought in the US.

    this DV3000T is not available in the US and so I need to get it in Asia (but unless I can customize it I won't order it), I like this particular HP because it is well built and about perfect , ideal size for me.

    any way thanks for your thought on this.

    PS.in Siangpore/ Malaysia , all laptops are extremely expensive , you don't want to get it there............ you 'd pay at least 2 times more than you should have paid for it in the US if you had ordered it in the states..

    HK is ok but too far.
     
  33. Dead1nside

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    Are the keys on the keyboard smooth?
     
  34. n20nine

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    Last month, I have been looking for 13-inch notebooks.

    I have been considering DELL M1330. But when I saw HP's new DV3000, I totally changed my mind because it has higher NVIDIA graphic card (256mb) on its specification, and the so-called 3D Drive guard. The design looks so great on the internet. And it is a lot cheaper. The two notebooks almost have same specification on site: both are core2duo T8100 2.1ghz, 2gb ram.

    However, when I visited the exhibit in a popular store, I was quite disappointed. :(

    Typically, one will get attracted with its shiny metallic finish-form, and white LED logo on cover. Admittingly, my hands always moist a lot, most especially on laptop palm rest that usually feels warm for longer periods. Therefore, DV3000 is not for me. I might just put smudges on it for sure. Attracting dusts and diminishing its shininess might be the result.

    Aside from that, I thought the plastic material was improved to a more quality one, but it is retained for this model. The corner of optical drive is prone to breakage because it is hanging on the right hand side.

    In dark rooms, I might not be able to watch my movies well because the reflection on mirror-like palmrest could destruct momentum.

    And one thing I truly hated most, the touch pad. Whether your fingers are moist or dry, it truly is still not that smooth to the feel. So if I would have this, I will always bring with me an optical mouse or wireless one.

    Afterall, even though it's 256mb(higher than DELL M1330), it is still not for gaming because it is GeForce 8400 GS. Based on experience and according to reviews, at least GeForce 8600(higher or Extreme ones) are the stuffs you should get for great gamers!

    Not all the time, laptops are attractive because of shining features.
    Well if I can just put the internal features of this laptop to DELL M1330.
    Hope they release a new version of HP DV3000 on next season and remove shining plastic thing. I might wait for that...
     
  36. Ayepecks

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    Does anyone know if/when it's coming to North America?
     
  37. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    The ONLY built-like-a-tank notebook I know is the Panasonic Toughbook. :D

    [​IMG]
     
  38. Dead1nside

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    Toughbook's are classed as durable whereas Thinkpads are not. They have a large difference in price. If you don't think Thinkpads are well built, semi-rugged I'd argue that you haven't used one for a decent period of time.
     
  39. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    I'm not saying they're not, I was just saying not "built-like-a-tank" lol.
     
  40. Dead1nside

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    That's true, they don't have tracks or a turret. Toughbooks are a bit out of my price range though... so are tanks for that matter. Oh to dream.
     
  41. lappyforphotoshop

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    Reality check......

    In the UK and Germany the reviews are written by the same type of people that write reviews in the USA. Some of these people work for magazines or newspapers that obtain their revenue from advertising.
    Advertising does not equal "sponsorship".

    Cnet is owned by CBS. As it is a marketplace type of site which does direct shoppers to certain advertiser's there is the potential for bias, however, a general dismissal of the content is ridiculous.
     
  43. lappyforphotoshop

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    dont worry BQ too much , seriously. it is just personal taste how you feel it , just ignore any one brag about any laptop too much....

    some people just want to think about they have some special products........any way , most of computers last longer than you want to keep them for, you will probably buy a new one in a couple of years or so any way.

    and now, we don't pay much for a laptop as technology get better and it changes faster and faster, so good build quality is not as important as it used be in 90th or before XP era,some people never understand it because they take it personal.

    you know if I say my HP built better than a Thinkpad , how many people will attack on me. so-called build quality is not very important and it is not objective , at best very subjective or personal as with design.

    so dont spend too much on any laptop just you believe it is built better........
     
  44. apoorvasheth

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    Hello Everybody! Firstly, special thanks to Johnny T for starting this thread with discussion on HP Pavilion dv 3005tx notebook. And thanks to Johnny T and to all those who have provided a closer look at this notebook through excellent pics.

    Now, the reason why I am continuously thanking everybody is because I am now in search of a new notebook and have come across this HP Pavilion dv3005tx as one of the best laptops, especially, HP is more preferred company in India to go for in terms of computing.

    So, looking at the pics and few reviews posted on this laptop by the users have helped me a lot in going ahead with my decision of purchasing it. But still, I have few more questions in regards to this laptop:

    Q1. How is this notebook in terms of performance?

    Q2. Does this notebook get heated very fast? This is b’coz my usage of desktop computer is for 9 – 10 hrs everyday wherein I surf the website, listen to music, keep files for downloading while PC is on standby mode, etc... But play games very less as well as watching movies. Therefore,

    I wonder if this notebook will be able to sustain such long hours.
    Again, I will be using notebook this at my residence, so I don’t have an air condition in the living room; instead, I turn on the fan.

    Q3. What are the main limitations of this notebook as compared to the HP Business series laptops?

    Q4. Does this notebook have the capacity of sustaining jerks & pressure while on move? This is quiet important for me b'coz I might be carrying this notebook on my 2 wheeler.

    Also, prior to HP Pavilion dv3000, I was planning to buy HP Pavilion tx2000 Tablet Notebook and this is because I felt that since if I have to go with a notebook, than why should I not go with some more features such as screen twisting, writing on the screen, touch screen, etc... But the realities of the laptop strike me when I went to Tata Croma which deals into “Electronics & Computers” here, in Mumbai.

    When I observed the screen of this laptop, I got very disappointed b’coz it looked so dull, even if one would stand in front of it. This made me switch over from a tablet to a non-tablet notebook.

    Now, the cost of this HP Pavilion dv3005tx Notebook is Rs. 53’000/- and that is slightly worrying me b’coz, it is said that unless one buys and uses a product, the reality of that product would not be know and the same is what I am feeling at this moment.

    Since, I cannot spend that huge amount repeatedly and notebook being costly cannot be changed at regular intervals, therefore I have to stick around with this laptop at least for next 7 years.
    So, only thing I am concerned about is that I should not get stuck up with this laptop with any kind of issues. As one o says that b’coz of the reflection on mirror-like palm rest, watching of movies would become difficult, so now this makes me wonder if I should go with it.

    Also, this laptop in India has an option up till 1.83 GHz and not beyond that. And FSB is till 667 MHz and so e’m worried about its performance.

    Therefore, Johnny T including anybody on this forum can help me with my worries, it would be really great!

    Regards,
    Apoorva.
     
  45. Johnny T

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    Well, as you might know I do not own the dv3000. But from my experience with it...I can tell you that...

    - Not alot of screen flex when comapared to their dv2xxx/6xxx/9xxx counterparts.

    - Heat level is fairly standard.

    - Quite liked the screen I saw. (2 different dv3000t).

    - It is well build but, you cant compared to the build quality of business notebooks.

    If gaming is not a priority then why not have a look at the HP 2510p? (might be expensive where you are...certainly more expensive than the dv3000 in HK). But it is better build...solid notebook overall.
     
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    Hi, sorry for my bad English at first.

    I hope you can read this ;)

    Do anyone know when this super 13,3" Notebook come to Europe? I want this!
     
  47. Binu Ud

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    Hi Apoorva,

    Yep, I am happy with my decision.
    My config - C2D T5600 @1.83ghz, 2G Ram, 250G HDD, fingerprint, 13.3". nvidia 8400 256mb dedicated
    The model is 3005tx.

    I run my own business, it involves some hardcore 3D software and rendering. visit nboomi dot com if you have time, thats my site.

    Let me tell you why I choose this laptop, when going for this laptop my requirement was
    under 2kg
    less than 14"
    Powefull so I can develop/compile code without waiting for lots of time.
    Affordable under 55K (my tight budget)
    Very good screen (my last acer had a dull LCD)
    I travel a lot with my laptop on my bike, my acer had some loose connections and was causing problem, i needed a sturdy laptop.
    Video card atleast nvidia 8400.
    The laptop should have good looks, since I use it for lots of demo's, want to influence my clients from the begining the moment i take the laptop out.

    After a lots of research, i rounded it on dv3000 and dell m1330.

    m1330 is anyday a better laptop because of higher processor. and it better bus speed both video. But it comes with 128mb vram. And it costed 10k more than the HP.

    So I settled for the HP, because of the cost.

    I never switch of the HP laptop, unless I pack it to go to my client or office.

    Now the negatives.

    Vista sucks, its good for ordinary browsing and other work. But for any development or anything serious, even for games it hogs hogs hogs. Makes my HP as slow as a snail, increasing my Blood pressure sometimes.

    Any laptop with a c2d processor cannot be placed in your lap. It literally burns. (too hot).

    The shiny keyboard and lid get smudgy with finger prints, but u can clean them.

    I live in a humid place, my fingers get sweaty, and the
    touch pad is too smooth, i cannot control the touch pad unless I sit in a AC room.
    Anyways I always use a optical mouse.

    If you need performance out of this laptop, or any new laptop you need to install XP, vista just wont work, unless you are just a blog writer.

    Let me know if this helped, you can tell me your requirements, I can make a suggestion.

    Regards
    Binu
     
  48. apoorvasheth

    apoorvasheth Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Bindu,

    Thanks for your reply but it really took a while. Anyway'z, I wonder that since you will be using this dv 3005tx for hardcore 3D and therefore, this notebook will be continuously used for business purpose, and as you said below that this notebook does not perform well on Vista and for games specially, than why did you decide to buy this notebook.

    I would also like to tell you that even I like doing lots of research before buying any Computer Peripherals or Notebook. However, this is my first experience of buying a notebook.

    So, coming back to my research point, I visited Shopping Malls in this city such as Tata Croma, eZone, etc... and on my every visit to these malls, I always discovered something new with this notebook.

    Here are the negatives in total:

    1. Lacks an expansion slot.

    2. Lightscribe feature missing.

    3. Should have been provided with an option of 14inch screen as well.

    4. In India, it is only supplied with 1.83 GHz whereas the same series is supplied with 2.1 GHz (I guess) in Asia.

    Of lately, I observed a shocking factor that at the bottom left hand corner of this notebook where one can rest his / her Palm in order to type something, that area gets hot after approx 2hrs and therefore making it completely uncomfortable for anybody to rest his / her Palm and type beyond (for more than) 20 mins.

    And the more shocking factor for me was when I realised that the keys get hot as well
    which should finally turn this notebook as a disaster to use.

    So, would like to know your experience with this notebook.

    Now, my requirements are as follows:

    1. Good battery life.
    2. Needs to have a graphic card.
    3. Strong performance.
    4. Should look good / decent.
    5. Screen should be at least 14 inch, but if my requirements are met, than 13.3inch screen would also do.
    6. Needs to have an Intel Core2Duo Processor.
    7. Less heating (Which ofcourse everybody looks out for!)

    So, kindly let me know your reply at your earliest.

    Sorry, for my average English. :)


    Regards,
    Apoorva.
     
  49. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    So these things are still overheating. HP still hasn't learnt enough from the dv2000/dv6000 fiasco. I can only anticipate the multitude of failed units in the coming months due to overheating.
    I don't understand how HP can design cool and quiet business notebooks, but cannot apply the same design principle to their Pavillion models. All you need is to transfer the technology down the pipe, like they have done with the 3D Driveguard and MultiBay.
     
  50. gadgetcritic

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    I saw this unit, HP DV3000, again from a friend of mine. I was just right to my guess. This thing is so consistent. The DVD Drive's end portion which is located on the bottom right (top view) is hanging and may cause the user to get cut or wound from that. I told him to better detach it as often to prevent that. Another thing, you are right, it easily gets hot on the palm rest. Truly sad for a LAPTOP.. I already bought the DELL M1330 this week. And compared it. This time, I had a lot more to say to HP's pride.. tsk tsk..
     
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