HP Pavilion dv3000 series 1st thoughts...

Perhaps this won't be coming our way after all.

 

Hello all! I have one more query to ask about the installation of Vista on this dv 3005 tx notebook.

I would like to know if I can install a trial version of Windows Vista Ultimate (32-bit / 64-bit) on this HP Pavilion dv 3000 series Notebook which comes pre-installed with a Vista Home Premium.

The sales person at the shopping mall says that it might not be possible b'coz HP's BIOS won't allow it. I was wondering how BIOS could detect the OS installed on a notebook and that a pre-installed OS is being replaced with another edition?

Secondly, I also discovered something new on my last evening visit to Hyper City Mall, Mumbai for this dv 3005tx notebook.

Since, the Windows Vista's rating were showing as unrated, I decided to check out the scores by running the performance wizard.

It gives out scores for dv 3005tx like this:

Processor: 4.8
RAM: 4.5
Graphics: 3.4
Gaming Graphics: 4.5
Primary Hard Disk: 5.1

On the other hand, HP Pavilion dv2700 Special Edition (which falls into same Home Entertainment series as the dv 3000 series does) offers the following ratings:

Processor: 4.8
RAM: 4.5
Graphics: 4.1
Gaming Graphics: 4.7
Primary Hard Disk: 5.4

So, I wonder that though the same NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS dedicated graphic card is being used on both the notebooks and besides that, dv 3000 series is being equipped with 256MB memory size as compared to dv2700 Special Edition, which is equipped with 128MB memory size; therefore it is so wired how could dv 2700 Special Edition get rated high by Vista in terms of Graphics and Gaming performance?

Performance wise, I would say that dv 3000 series does fairly better since I had done an extensive test on this notebook when I was at Hyper City Mall, Mumbai last evening. But due time shortage, I could not perform the same tests on HP Pavilion dv2700 Special Edition but I will do that today, in the evening when I go to Hyper City Mall again.

Sad part about this dv3005tx is that it is not equipped with a high end processor such as 2Ghz or above and is only limited to 1.83Ghz here in India, but I guess I read on this forum somewhere that dv3000 series is available with 2.2Ghz as well somewhere in Asia, Europe or Hong Kong...not sure.

I was never ever such disappointed when I had to customize my desktop PC (Majority of people in India prefer going for assemble one instead of a branded desktop since they have the flexibility of selecting their own hardware as per his taste) as compared to buying of this notebooks which does not offer any options of customizing.

I must say that the engineers (or those who are responsible in advising what configuration and features are going to be involved in this HP Notebook) are so stupid & crack that they don't understand the real technology world & its requirements at all.

I was deciding to buy dv2700 Special Edition since it has Lightscribe feature, expansion slot and is rated high in graphics but then, this notebook has only 160 GB space limit which practically (considering the amount of space that’s going to be utilised by the various applications & OS as well) impossible to go ahead with .

On the other hand, dv3000 series does have more disk space (250 GB) but then lacks three main features which are: Lightscribe, Expansion Slot and High Definition Audio and that’s seriously a crap thinking abilities of this HP Notebooks designers. At least, they could have either have Light Scribe technology or High Definition Audio involved in dv 3000 Series.

Nonesense!!!

 

Maybe the DV3000's 8400GS is DDR2 and the DV2700's is GDDR3?

 

if i am not mistaken, the processor helps in terms of graphics too...

 

Well, let me tell you that both the notebooks have the same processor, i.e. Intel Core2Duo 1.83Ghz T5550.

But I feel that maybe Jayayess is right what he said that possibly this dv2700 special edition notebook equipped with GDDR3 graphics card as compared to dv3000 else Vista would never rate a less dedicated memory capacity graphics card high in points.

I need to confirm this.

 

possibly....but i wonder how come the diff is quite big...

 

Well its this, the dv3005tx nvidia uses a slower bus speed than 2700 or dell's mx1330

 

Hi Apoorva

My name is Binu

I dont use Vista, had installed XP the same day I purchased the laptop.
Vista is too slow on any machine. If you are serious about performance
I would suggest you install XP. Since very few laptops come with XP installed
nowadays.

I would suggest that you note down your requirements as below..

After going thru your requirements, look at dell m1330, sony vaio CR series.
And if you are filthy rich go for sony TZ (1.2 laks) great battery, low heat. uses the intel c2d u series.

Any laptop with C2D (unless like sony if they use the intel U series processor),
will produce lots of heat, enought to make omlettes.

If you are not a developer/programmer. If you primarily use the laptop for browsing/stocks/
excel/word kinda stuff, I would suggest you go for sub 13" i.e. 12" or 11" laptops.
They are easy to carry around, very light.

http://www.sony.co.in/productcategor...ite=hp_en_IN_i

Look at the TZ, my friend has it (was my suggestion), its amazing. Literally turns others heads
towards you.

Regards
Binu

 

i just played with the dv3000...verdict: not too impressed.

why? well its a huge fingerprint magnet...the palmrest area...it looks pretty ugly...performance wasn't spectacular..and oh...u can only get the model with the t5750 processor...so u know...

the chrome plating looks ok...i am afraid that it might peel off...screen's nothing to shout about...the brightness is just average...colours are ok...

keyboard is quite nice to type on..like it better than the dv2700...it has a coating on top of it...the trackpad is rubbish imho...i find it hard to use it...

notebook is small and nice, light to carry around..the screen hinge is quite thin but it should be ok i hope...

here's a major disappoinment..the chrome plating on top of the modular bay does not fit nicely (flush) against the chrome plating of the body of the laptop...it sticks out..which is absolute garbage..i mean you are paying so much for the laptop and you get this? you could easily cut yourself or probably get it pulled out if you are not careful.

overall quality was ok only. was not expecting this from hp

 

So if I understand correctly this laptop in Asia only? no usa no europe.

 

Yes you are correct. At least for now anyway...because I do believe HP will have a 13.3'' in their pavilion line. Also the design and styling of the dv3000 is almost identical to those of thew new pavilions.

Johnny T

 

gadgetcritic's comments:

>>This thing is so consistent.

Consistency is usually regarded as a good thing in this industry. For instance, consistent in look and feel, consistent in performance, consistent in not combusting, etc. Unless you have a different idea of "consistent", please elaborate.

>>The DVD Drive's end portion which is located on the bottom right (top view) is hanging and may cause the user to get cut or wound from that.

So far the drive bezel hasn't caused so much as a concern, at least not to me. I can't imagine anyone getting grazed by the bezel edge. To get cut by this edge, the owner would have to be the kind of clown who walks around swinging a 2kg object (not light, mind you) in his hand like in a military march. In fact, we should make a sketch like this and put it up on YouTube for a laugh.

>>Another thing, you are right, it easily gets hot on the palm rest. Truly sad for a LAPTOP..

Guess you've never used a notebook that comes with anything beyond an integrated Intel graphics. Nvidia 8400M GS can get very hot. Want a cool notebook? Get an EeePC. I'm using it, it's beautiful. It's light like a book, so you can use it like one. Not so with the following notebook you're trying to push to us...

>> I already bought the DELL M1330 this week.

Well there you go. And guess what? This is your Dell, no? 3DMark06 score: 1408. The Pavilion DV3000 I got is a 2.0GHz model. 3DMark06: 1634. I don't see how graphics on Windows Experience Index can come up with a number like 3.4. But to me that score is out of whack considering the last Presario V3606TX (in Singapore market only) that shipped with only 1.6GHz C2D and 64MB 8400M scored close to a 5.

n20nine comments:

>>performance wasn't spectacular

The performance on this set isn't meant to be stellar. Just like MacBook isn't meant to overthrow MacBook Pro. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the 14" Pavilion with 8400M GS and 2GHz C2D used to cost more than SGD2K? And that thing weighs what?

>>the chrome plating looks ok...

I'll be frank. They had me at the chrome finish along with the PowerBook-ish keyboard. Different strokes. Love it, hate it. The whole industry is into black these days, I know. But us old fogies still like to stay in the 70s. Can you imagine the DeLorean in black? That would absolutely kill it.

Alright, enough rant for one day.