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    HP Pavilion dv6z-7000 (AMD A10-4600M) Trinity Review

    Discussion in 'HP' started by T2050, Jun 16, 2012.

  1. kevmanw4301

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    It won't hurt it at all as long as the temps are good. I wouldn't worry.
     
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    use yur new laptop to your hearts content! you dont have to limit yourself to such and such hrs of gaming. just use it!

    make sure you back up your hardrive regularly and get a good laptop cooler to put under the laptop. and just be careful not to spill beer on the keyboard...cause yur in college now ;) lol

    dont worry about using yur laptop its what you bought it for. and if yur worried about your investment you can always upgrade your warranty through HP.
     
  3. T2050

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    What's the difference between this and the 7000 models?
     
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    Thanks for your advice! :)
     
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    there is no difference there just pre-configured models
     
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    Where in the dv6 service manual does it state that the AMD processor is soldered????


    Enjoy:

    [​IMG]

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    [​IMG]
     
  9. mrpelo

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    Can we expect any newer Trinity models?

    Perhaps something around 14"? :D
     
  10. davidricardo86

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    We all certainly hope so.


    I created this thread so we can have a list of all the Trinity notebooks out there right now and those on the way:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=676413
     
  11. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    that teardown is awesome.


    it says soldered in the chart of amd cpu's on page 1. :D
     
  12. T2050

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    That tear down certainly is awesome. Great work there :)

    I going to sit and wait for an A6-4400 (damm pre-build) model to go on sale some time in the future and upgrade that thing!
     
  13. Futureperfect

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    Wow, that's obviously incorrect. Sure, it may be soldered on some units but not all.


    I'll see what I can do about that.


    Thanks!
     
  14. davidricardo86

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    The only ones to be soldered are the 25W & 17W chips. 35W is socketed.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. tbone8ty

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    thanks for tearing it apart to check if it has a socket!

    how was the thermal paste contact? was it gooped on and to much excess?

    its looks pretty good actually
     
  16. T2050

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    I was missing my dv6z A10-4600M Trinity to much, and have got a replacement for the first machine that had a faulty GPU.

    This new model is a tiny increment in the numbering scheme, is known as the DV6-7103AX and is pretty sweet. Basically is a pre-built model with all the top options pre-selected, even a FHD panel :D

    Some people here are obviously disappointed, but I am not :cool:

    Will post up my findings with the new model, see if there are any differences between this and the older version.

    Also I can now continue to add to the thread, as I originally intended to.

    Edit:
    This FHD panel is amazing!, it really is like a IPS panel, as some people in the Ivy Bridge section are mentioning with their models. The viewing angle are incredible, and can be viewed from any angle. Although it does not match the 95% gamut mod in the dv6t with the colors, it definitely blows it away with the viewing angles. The color being not so over saturated and easier on the eyes.
    Model of the panel is: LG Philips [Unknown Model: LGD0349]

    I have been playing Deus Ex - Human Revolution for the last 40 minutes. This was the game that highlighted the faulty 7730M in the first dv6z70XX machine, but so far seem all is good with the dv6z-71XX and pleased this is from a different batch of 7730M. Great thing is playing game on the trinity is a pleasure, as nothing ever get to hot anywhere, from the top surfaces, all the keyboard including the wasd area, even the fan will spin up only slowing during the game and at times will actually slow down slightly which is fantastic. After playing I checked the maximum temperature of the A10, it only got to 59c :)

    Overclocking the replacement 7730M
    All I can say after have a dud 7730M and now one that works correctly as overclocking is wow! This thing overclocks by a 100MHz over stock, taking it to 675MHz and then taking into account stock is only a low 575MHz and the tech is only new, that is pretty good considering it is a low power draw part.

    I have managed to overclock to 675MHz stable in the Deus Ex - Human Revolution for at least 25 minutes, maximum temperature was only 61c.

    [​IMG]

    I have also used Street Fighter X Tekken to see how far I can push the dGPU. I was able to bench at 680MHz, but when I went to 685MHz the display drive stop responding but didn't bsod.

    A good thing about overclocking the 7730M is the core responds well to small increase and are noticeable within game play and appear to be show also my the benchmarks.

    Something that I have observed about both of the 7730M dGPU is that there is a fine line between absolute maximum clock speed and stability. They are so very close, therefore the good news is you can overclock you 7730M right up to the limit of 5-10 MHz before whatever your 7730M's absolute max is, which is very cool.
     
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    Hey guys, new to the forums. I'm about to buy a dv6z but I want to know if the A8-4500M is that much better than the A6-4400M in light gaming. Most I will play is WoW, D3 and Civ5. Its a $50 upgrade to the A8.
     
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    It's definitely worth the $50 upgrade. Buy the A8 and if you can get an affordable A10, get that.
     
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    Thanks! So this is what I'm getting:

    AMD Quad-Core A8-4500M (3.0GHz/2.1GHz, 4MB L2 Cache)
    2GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7730M Graphics
    FREE Upgrade to 6GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
    FREE Upgrade to 640GB 5400RPM Hard Drive

    for $632 out the door. Good deal?
     
  20. R3d

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    Spend another $100 and get a dv6t with an i5 and 650m. Should be $950 and use the 25% off coupon from Andrew's thread.

    I would also recommend spending a little more and getting the fullHD screen and backlit keyboard.
     
  21. techie217

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    Yeah, unfortunately, that would be over of my budget.
     
  22. solitario07777

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    Or use the coupon and get this team

    HP Pavilion G7Z-2100

    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Quad-Core AMD A10-4600m Accelerated Processor (3.2GHz/2.3GHz, 4MB L2 Cache)
    1GB AMD Radeon (TM) 7670M HD Graphics Discrete-Class
    750GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
    Microsoft (R) Office Starter: Reduced-functionality Word / Excel (R) only, not PowerPoint (R) / Outlook (R)
    No additional security software
    6-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery
    17.3-inch diagonal BrightView LED-backlit HD display (1600 x 900)
    SuperMulti 8X DVD + / -R/RW with double layer support
    HP Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone
    802.11b/g/n WLA
    Standard Keyboard
    FREE Upgrade to 500GB 4GB DDR3 System Memory (1Dimm)
    HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    $ 620

    dv6z

    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    AMD Quad-Core A10-4600M Accelerated Processor (3.2GHz/2.3GHz, 4MB L2 Cache)
    1GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7670M Graphics
    8GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
    750GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
    No additional security software
    One 6 Cell and One 9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    15.6-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
    Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
    HP TrueVision Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone + HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
    802.11b/g/n WLAN
    Standard Keyboard
    HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    $ 890

    Number of coupon NBQ1148
     
  23. R3d

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    ^ that's actually a pretty good deal. I would get that over the dv6z.
     
  24. kevmanw4301

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    That's an incredible deal! The fact that it's 1600x900 means it should be really easy to upgrade to 1080p if you desire.
     
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    Just be careful with the g6, as the reviews over at notebook check are pointing towards higher heat, noise, and even throttling. Then comparing this to the dv6z which I believe has a much better cooling system.
    After checking through the service manuals for the g4, g6, and g7, they all share the same part numbers for the cool system. They are look fairly weak in design.
    The g6 is also cheap in design, beware of the 10/100 NIC, but saying that if that is what you want and that is all you can get in your budget, then get it. I thought long and hard about the g6 almost pulling the trigger several times, I am glad I didn't, I would highly recommend the dv6z.
     
  26. link626

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    if there is a cooling issue with the g6/g7, it would probably be from the tiny vent on the side.......

    look at it

    [​IMG]
     
  27. baii

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    ALL consumer HP have tiny vent..( and most split up into top and bottom)
    Edit : Guess they learn that from mac?
    Almost every other laptop brand use something like a grill with square holes, HP/mac like this circular shape holes and try to hide the heatsink
     
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    dv6/7 seems to have bigger grille, with no vga port to block part of it

    i wonder if the heatsink fins are smaller in the G series
     
  29. T2050

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    I have added some 3dmark11 score to the first page, second post. Now that the 7730M I have works as it should, then people will know what to expect from the dGPU.

    Compared a stock 7750M (GDDR5) on a HP Envy 15t-3200 with i7-3720QM 2.6GHz pushing out a score of 2031
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...tel-ivy-bridge-amd-7750m-187.html#post8638757

    With the 2031 score in mind from the stock 7750M and the score of the stock 7730M, that put the 7730M at about 80% the speed of the 7750M.

    With overclocking applied, this puts the 7730M within 90% of the stock speed of a 7750M

    7730M stock clocks of 575 / 900

    [​IMG]


    7730M overclocked to 675 / 1080

    [​IMG]
     
  30. R3d

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    That's at 720p 3dmark though. As you move up in res the difference is going to be a lot bigger due to the vram bottleneck in the 7730m.
     
  31. JD390

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    Hey guys,
    I got a question,

    I finnaly got my dv6 7000 a couple of days ago, It's great!
    I downloaded Amd System monitor and while playing Test Drive Unlimited 2 my discrete card is doing like 95% load while my apu is doing almost nothing, Is their something wrong? Is it bad to run the discrete almost at max it hits 100% sometimes but I really though it was 50/50 discrete/apu?
     
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    nope.. for max graphic performance u should get 100/100 discrete/apu.

    what is your full spec btw?
     
  33. JD390

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    Here are my full specs:
    HP Pavilion dv6z
     
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    Here are my specs:

    HP Pavilion dv6z

    HP Pavilion dv6z Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit AMD Quad-Core A10-4600M Accelerated Processor (3.2GHz/2.3GHz, 4MB L2 Cache) 1GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7670M Graphics FREE Upgrade to 6GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R) FREE Upgrade to 640GB 5400RPM Hard Drive No additional security software 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery 15.6-inch diagonal HD BrightView LED-backlit Display (1366x768) SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support HP TrueVision Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone + HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader 802.11b/g/n WLAN Backlit Keyboard HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    So crossfire isn't working correct? I set the profile pre defined thourgh catalyst.. if crossfire were working it would be 50% dgpu 50% igpu??
     
  35. T2050

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    For anyone that goes for the 7730M, beware of installing AMD System Monitor if you are to overclock the 7730M. Even if you install AMD System Monitor and don't even run/open it, it will BSOD your system whenever you try and overclock the 7730M. I am not sure if this applies to the 7670M also, as I can not test that scenario.

    AMD System Monitor works fine without overclocking.
    Some of the other AMD apps, e.g. The Vision app with the many profiles, will cause problems or lockups when using PSCheck if anyone should decide to use it.
     
  36. johnnydugood

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    I took the jump had the dv7t-7000 on order I will return that since switchable graphics flaw present - Went and ordered this configuration:

    HP Pavilion dv6z-7000 Entertainment Notebook PC

    • Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    • AMD Quad-Core A10-4600M Accelerated Processor (3.2GHz/2.3GHz, 4MB L2 Cache)
    • 2GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7730M Graphics
    • 16GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
    • 750GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
    • No additional security software
    • One 6 Cell and One 9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    • 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
    • SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    • HP TrueVision Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone + HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
    • 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
    • Backlit Keyboard
    • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    With the 25% off coupon and 5% back from eb comes out to about $ 950.00

    Just curious would like to swap that optical out with a lightscribe one - wonder if a standard optical will work and just transfer the bezel any thoughts?
     
  37. R3d

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    No, it'd be 100% iGPU and 100% dGPU, because you'd want maximum performance. It wouldn't make much sense to have 50% dGPU and 50% iGPU because then you'd just end up with the same thing as 100% dGPU (and that's under ideal conditions for the crossfire setup), which would defeat the purpose of crossfire, no?

    Hybrid crossfire doesn't work in dx9, because it's not true crossfire. So TDU2 not using crossfire is working as intended.
     
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    Hey i think the crossfire between 7660g and 7730m is possible.

    the hp tech support guy told this to me.

    go to amd vision engine control center by
    right click
    graphic properties
    preferences ->advanced view
    gaming option in side bar
    3D Application settings

    read the info there. it says that whenever you setup a profile, crossfire is automatically configured. atleast thats what the tech support told me.

    so tell me guys, will it work?
    was the tech support guy correct or just misinformed?
     
  39. zwarrior_sid

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    can anyone please check and tell me the stock BIOS version in their dv61-7000 a10 models

    the tech support told me to install the BIOS v F.05, but i think i had the F.06 version installed before. so if someoe can check it out for me, it would be awesome.
    thanks
     
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    My model is a dv6-7103AX this came with F.06 right out of the box. Not sure what your issue is, mine is running fine :)

    Edit
    This is to add content to the first page second post. I have put up photos of the awesome 1920x1080 panel.

    I will also post higher res photos here. This thing really does look like an IPS panel, but its not, the viewing angles are unreal!

    From the bottom at keyboard level.
    [​IMG]

    From side on
    [​IMG]
     
  42. link626

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    what lcd model does it say in hwinfo64 ??

    oh nevermind. you already said LG

    based on other people's comments, the LGD0349 may actually be a real IPS panel.
    an easy way to tell is to go to a dark website like lagom.nl and see if the blacks invert to gray/white.

    eIPS panels are getting cheap to produce. Even HP is selling cheap sub $200 eIPS external monitors.
     
  43. T2050

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    I went to lagom.nl, which test do I need to run?

    Found this:
    http://translate.google.co.nz/trans...a=X&ei=qH0HUJ7AMNCTiAfWyuCOBA&ved=0CHwQ7gEwCA
     
  44. zwarrior_sid

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    do you not see the problem:::

    I installed OLDER BIOS F.05 over NEWER F.06.

    now i want to get the latest version F.06 back, but am not able to find it anywhere.
     
  45. baii

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    Go the the whole purple one and stick head into screen. See if any color shift?

    Doubt there is a way to distinguish TN from IPS if they perform similarly. Unless crack it open or something.

    Edit:
    I read the Japanese thing, maybe you should try check the response time then .
     
  46. link626

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    you don't need to run any test.

    LCD monitor test images

    just look at the black page, tilt the screen back, and move your head up and down.

    the grays will invert and turn to black, and the blacks will turn gray, if it's a cheap TN panel.

    if it's IPS, then the colors will remain.

    if it is true that it's the LP156WF4, then it's IPS
     
  47. T2050

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    Well I tilted the screen right back and no blacks or grays change. All of the 20 shades stay exactly the same.

    I never seen a TN panel with angles this good ever. Therefore it has to be with a IPS or more likely a eIPS.

    No matter either any of them above, cannot deny that the viewing angles are 180 degrees, and when nearing 180 degrees viewing angle the only thing stopping you seeing what on the screen is the physical limits of the human eye at that angle to read anything.
     
  48. link626

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    If your screen is tilted back, and your eyes are almost keyboard level, and the blacks stay black, it's gotta be IPS then.

    however, image quality and performance are another issue.

    I haven't seen any lcd panels for sale that are IPS and have 95% color and good contrast. The IPS panels seem to have slower response times.

    If i were to upgrade my screen, I'd lean toward a fast quality TN panel, like the ones Apple uses
     
  49. T2050

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    I gave this a try and it seems that it looks promising, but pulls the carpet out from underneth your feet.

    Here is the screenshot of that area
    [​IMG]

    Once you push the button "Use as Current Settings", then this is displayed:
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  50. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    well, does it show it working in amd system monitor ?
     
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