With regards to 1b: I get a slight "click" when I tap the touch pad without pushing hard enough to click.
With regard to 1c: I haven't found any adjustment to scrolling speed on the touch screen. But, I have touch pad scrolling set very fast. And it coasts until I stop it. It is hard to think that you couldn't scroll fast enough if you use the touch pad.
With regard to screen brightness: I have the FHD screen. Max brightness in normal light is much too bright for me. I have no idea what nit that is. I have my brightness set to 64%.
Good luck, Jim
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I haven't done any benchmarking on my Spectre yet, but after observing the CPU activity in Task Manager for a while I saw the processor hit a max of 2.94GHz and a low of 0.77MHz. I have the i7 and running BIOS F.13. I have a 3004-tu, these ones are being shipped to Australia and NZ. I haven't altered Cool Sense, CPPC or any other settings in any other way. I use the HP Recommended power plan when on AC. I haven't watched the activity when on battery which is when I switch to Power saver.
When I'm just doing light work the processor sits 0.7-0.8MHz but has hit the 2.9 mark when installing software.
This would indicate there is no throttling occurring on my system if the processor is hitting these speeds? Or rather it is 'throttling' correctly as it should, keeping well below the 1GHz mark to save power 95% of the time and the Turbo Boost is kicking in as it should when I've asked for the horse power. Like I said I haven't watched what's happening on battery but most people seem to be having the problems on AC anyway.
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I find the keyboard backlighting fairly dim and practically useless unless you're in a dark room. It's much dimmer than the backlighting under the wifi key or backlight toggle key that's always lit. Is this normal ? I also disagree with hawkeye62 ; I find my FHD screen a little dim . These observations are obviously subjective and a screen that is too bright May cause eye strain , but the dim keyboard backlighting seems disappointing. I really don't want to trade for the outside chance of a brighter screen or keyboard backlight. Incidentally , I turned my auto dim off and increased screen brightness to 100 % in power settings. Is there a keyboard backlight adjustment in power settings ?
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Some of the reviews stated they were "impressed" by the backlit keyboard. What the hell were they looking at!? I'd prefer too bright on the entire surface than super bright on a couple of keys and dim on the rest. Then there's the two thirds lit-up f5 key - I just turn it off with fn+A.
But I like the keys/typing and they are great during normal lighting conditions, it's just that once it gets dark lighting behind the chiclet keyboard on this thing looks odd. Not a deal breaker - just disappointing when I compare it to the Envy line and their backlit chiclet keyboards.
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Everything was working perfectly fine.... Then I made the fateful mistake of telling Chrome to go ahead and update itself. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. I am so pissed at myself. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Now Chrome is totally unusable. It displays all wrong and there is no way for me to get to settings to change anything. I tried uninstalling it but that led to some other problems. When I click on uninstall I get about half of a window that I can't figure out what it says that pops up and an instance of Chrome seems to start running.
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kiwi_style, you can try looking at the event log in your system and see if it shows that CPPC is being disabled due to firmware issues. The messages will even kindly refer you to your manufacturer for a firmware fix. Beware, there's a lot of scary stuff in the event log, virtually all of which is just Windows 8.1 operating as usual. Those CPPC messages would be issued at boot up time, if at all. I have the same F.13 bios level (though my proc. is the Core i5) and have seen the same clock frequency issues as many others have, so I doubt that F.13 has improved anything in that regard.
I had my machine almost a week before I noticed the issue, since every time I observed it (frankly not that often at first), it was working as expected-- until it wasn't. I did in fact first notice the problem when operating on battery. My machine was idling (CPU never going above 2%) with the core clocks running 'stuck' at 1.59Mhz (nominal frequency for the i5). At this workload, they should have been running at half that, so I wouldn't be getting the best battery life. I've also observed them 'stuck' at .79 (kind of awesome that even at that speed, the machine had no problem perfectly streaming a 1080p HDX video from Vudu!) That kind of performance had me wondering if the core frequency was even being correctly reported; Windows has had a hard time correctly reporting clock speeds of TDP-modulated cpu's in the past. But CPU-Z showed the same thing and I'm not aware of it having any issues in that regard.
Permutations of shutdown vs. restart, on battery vs. AC, all seem to evidence the issue with varying probabilities, so your normal 'mode' of operation may affect how frequently the symptoms occur. Also it appears that the behavior (proper or not) persists until the next shutdown/restart, when it again seems to go up for grabs. Kind of makes it hard to pronounce a given sample immune to the problem (though yours may be-- I wish you luck!). At any rate, with the workaround its not a huge deal. It sure does make me wonder though what the criteria for "good enough- let's ship it" is when even a cursory glance at the event log would point to a problem. -
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I also noticed an interesting issue with the SD card reader, not sure if its a real problem or not but I noticed using 2 separate SD cards that the system will sometimes randomly unmounts and remount the SD card as if it were quickly unplugged and replugged into the machine even though I haven't even touched them. I haven't since been able to reproduce it, but I encourage everyone to try out their SD card readers to make sure it all works. -
Perhaps is depends on the head set type used? Dunno. Do you have more than one type of head phones you can try with the jack? Maybe my hearing is bad LOL. Good heads up on the SD reader. The system I have now was used as a Frisbee at the Chinese factory for a morale building event before it was shipped to me I think. Upper left hand corner of the QHD screen has a large 2 inch bright round blotch that looks like someone spilled bleach on it. It is a nice white and bright circle that emits brightness a couple hundred NITS above the rest of the screen. Not to mention the occasional popping noise under the palm rest. If I am not doing a complete return of my system then you can't either. You can't return the system now as you are needed to help flush out and plug any bugs that need squashing! -
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mikeynavy1 said: ↑I'm working off another computer right now or I'd look but, out of curiosity, where is the PSR feature? Is it in the Intel graphics app or in Windows Device Manager?Click to expand...
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lovelaptops said: ↑Thanks. Couldn't find any drivers or useful search results anywhere to get to widi. Could you please tell me what the default palm rejection settings go to on your clickpad?Click to expand...
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sootnsmoke said: ↑The first complaints I saw before getting the Spectre were about the audio hiss/noise. I checked that right after I had it booted for the first time. Played MP3's, watched movie trailers through speakers and head phones. No sound anomalies, nothing, nada. This is using the only head phones I have which I use almost everyday couple days at the gym. They are just Sony sports headphones. Just average non noise cancelling units you can get a Target for around $20
Perhaps is depends on the head set type used? Dunno. Do you have more than one type of head phones you can try with the jack? Maybe my hearing is bad LOL. Good heads up on the SD reader. The system I have now was used as a Frisbee at the Chinese factory for a morale building event before it was shipped to me I think. Upper left hand corner of the QHD screen has a large 2 inch bright round blotch that looks like someone spilled bleach on it. It is a nice white and bright circle that emits brightness a couple hundred NITS above the rest of the screen. Not to mention the occasional popping noise under the palm rest. If I am not doing a complete return of my system then you can't either. You can't return the system now as you are needed to help flush out and plug any bugs that need squashing!Click to expand...
Good thing you are exchanging your system if the build seems that sketchy, mine looks physically perfect. The funny thing about having us flush out the bugs is that I think this was in some way HP's plan. Someone mentioned earlier that these days many of these OEMs are using the customers as the alpha/beta testers. With or without knowing it, we have all basically been providing HP free validation for their product. -
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Burd said: ↑Could that be 'USB selective suspend' at work? You can eliminate it as a possibility by de-selecting it in the power plan. I first noticed that on my 8.1 desktop, the USB flash drive lights would go out; I assumed that they were disconnected because of a hardware error-- yet as soon as accessed them they would come right back; only to turn off again later. There was never any problem accessing data on them; the system was just powering them down when not accessed for a while. The SD card reader might attach to the system bus internally by USB.Click to expand.... I'll just keep an eye on it.
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Cohmar said: ↑This entire thread should be used by Apple as an advertisement for the MacBook Air or MacBook Pro. All these little quirks that are reported makes me wish that I didn't order this (shipping date is 1/24/14). We shall see. If all these ridiculous quirks are present when I get it , I'm going to send it back, spend a couple hundred bucks more and get a MacBook Pro with Retina. Anyone here do that yet?Click to expand...lovelaptops likes this. -
Cohmar said: ↑This entire thread should be used by Apple as an advertisement for the MacBook Air or MacBook Pro. All these little quirks that are reported makes me wish that I didn't order this (shipping date is 1/24/14). We shall see. If all these ridiculous quirks are present when I get it , I'm going to send it back, spend a couple hundred bucks more and get a MacBook Pro with Retina. Anyone here do that yet?Click to expand...
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Cohmar said: ↑This entire thread should be used by Apple as an advertisement for the MacBook Air or MacBook Pro. All these little quirks that are reported makes me wish that I didn't order this (shipping date is 1/24/14). We shall see. If all these ridiculous quirks are present when I get it , I'm going to send it back, spend a couple hundred bucks more and get a MacBook Pro with Retina. Anyone here do that yet?Click to expand...stackPointer2.0 said: ↑I think HP offers a fantastic system with uncompromising specs and build quality, it is a pleasure to use too. I think this is true even if you forget its nice price too. I certainly agree with you though that HP really dropped the ball on the little details, if they just ironed out the little stuff, I don't see why this system couldn't compare with the very best from Apple or anyone else. Keep in mind though, this thread will only have the people with issues and those who are obsessed (like me) with getting rid of all the imperfections.Click to expand...sootnsmoke said: ↑Most of these issues are not really even "issues" for almost everyone to be honest. You are hearing very sensitive enthusiasts give their feedback that won't represent you as an individual in my opinion. Most will not even apply to your view of the system or the assessments will not match the severity as described by others. There needs to be some software updates including a bios update for the dynamic CPU modulation and perhaps the audio/sound driver. Same general scenario for most new systems for differing misc issues, always the case for the new Windows machines...always. Assuming a couple updates are coming, the majority of comments are largely subjective design opinion, perceptions and preference of keyboard lighting, how bright a screen needs to be for your eyes, colors of keyboard etc. This machine is absolutely one of the best ultrabooks on the market at any price point based on overall build, performance, screen etc. Everything when picked apart at every misc detail comes out looking less than a quality system. I believe you are really going to like this computer when you get it. Let us know your thoughts after you have some time with it.Click to expand...
I've never really been much of an Apple fanboy, but every Apple product I have purchased or helped someone set up fresh out of the box, particularly if it was a new product release, had its share of "quirks," that ranged from the annoying - hand blocking signal on all-metal-edged iPhone 4 - to the downright dysfunctional - chronic severe wifi problems on all Macbook products from roughly 2008 - 2012 - such that I would have to say this entirely new HP product, less than 3 months from the first production unit rolling off the line, has as solid a build and reliable operational performance as any of the new Mac/IOS products released in the past 5 years or more. And if you doubt that I am reporting accurately, do check out the threads on MacRumors or similar forums and see if their early adopters don't have easily as much, and usually a good deal more frustration with the products and the way the company responds to their complaints as what you can glean by reading the pages on this thread. Yes, it infuriates me that I still find the clickpad way short of the mark that Apple set over five years ago, and I would prefer it if tapping on said clickpad did not produce a somewhat tinny/hollow sound, but this machine is nothing short of extraordinary in its sleek design, more than competitive features and performance, exceedingly solid (dare I say "Apple-like") build quality and this HP can go toe-to-toe with any MacBook Air and have its gorgeous QHD display truly sophisticated design color and surface choices beat the pants off the MBA with its antiquated low-res TN panel, tired monotone aluminum finish and price higher by some $25%. What's more, if an HP customer encounters so much as a 1 week delay in shipment h/she can expect at least a $100 unsolicited discount and, if the product arrives with any hardware defects that require a replacement, an additional $100-$200 in discounts, coupons for future purchases, or free upgrades will accompany HP's apologies, as will free overnight shipping of the repaired or replaced unit, helping bridge the gap in service that the Apple retail network's walk-in service cannot otherwise be equaled.
If you hear more than a little push-back from me against what sounded like that smug, superior 'tude of that certain consumer electronics company and its customers that turns me - and millions and millions like me - off of Apple products, I'm pleased to report you have pitch-perfect hearing! While I would never advocate buying an inferior product for a non-competitive price simply because the superior product comes from an arrogant company that I might - in my heart of hearts - like to see taken down a peg, I can say with assurance that HP in this case - and increasingly more all of the top Ultrabook brands (eg, Samsung, Asus, even "the new" Acer (!)) takes most if not all of the MBA's former product superiority and either raises the bar of design and quality a notch or two above Apple's (truly long-in-the-tooth MBA design and specs) and/or at least fully matches it at a 20% - 30% price advantage, this HP Spectre 13T being an example of raising the bar considerably in screen specs and quality and undercutting Apple's price by over 20%.
So go ahead and cancel your HP order and march down to the Apple store and ask one of the 27 blue-shirted youngsters, 25 of whom aren't yet clear on the major differences between an MBA and an rMBP 13, to give you a freshly boxed product to take home with you and enjoy knowing that, while you may have paid more and gotten less, you got yourself an Apple, and that means you got "The Best."
My apologies for that entirely obnoxious and (mostly) uncalled-for rant. I should know better. I should behave better, be above the pettiness I have just exhibited, provided a more thoughtful, informative, measured and objective response, keeping any emotionality to myself. I promise to do better in the future. (But just this once, man did it feel great!!) Peace, Jeff
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Burd said: ↑I'm using the September version as well; the settings would be the ones you get when pushing the 'default' button on the Smart Sense window; are they not resetting to defaults for you?Click to expand...
Regrettably, these settings did nothing to resolve my "flying cursor" problem, that occurs about every couple of minutes of straight typing.
Anyone else having or have fixed this problem? Any suggestions would be welcomed. I've tried disabling and enabling the "Edge Swipes" function, and tried both Control Zone and Traditional Edge Swipes, and both (the default) thinking these might play a role if my palm is hitting the edges of the elongated clickpad, but none of these seemed to help with the basic problem of my cursor leaving its positioning every couple of minutes of continuous typing. Much obliged. Jeff -
Mine arrived today. Anyone else finding the wifi slow? Using LAN Speed Test Lite, Synology NAS and Asus AC router - I get 120mbps write and 180mbps read. If I do the same test wired I get 400mbps (so NAS is not the bottleneck).
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lovelaptops said: ↑Yes, I did try using the default settings. FYI, it puts the palm rejection to its highest level (farthest to the right), restricts pointing to a zone, which fills out 90% of the area of the clickpad, leaving a small margin on all four sides, and chooses a one second delay for the "Filter Activation."Click to expand...
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slysy said: ↑Mine arrived today. Anyone else finding the wifi slow? Using LAN Speed Test Lite, Synology NAS and Asus AC router - I get 120mbps write and 180mbps read. If I do the same test wired I get 400mbps (so NAS is not the bottleneck).Click to expand...
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slysy said: ↑How can I do this? Also does it have the same effect as uninstalling in terms of CPU behaviour?Click to expand...
Go to the drop down list to Intel CPPC item. You can choose enable or disable. Unfortunately, it did nothing for my system which was stuck at 1.57 GHz. But, this morning I have full dynamic throttling from 800 MHz to 1.6 GHz. Turbo mode seems to work only on AC power.
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Go to the drop down list to Intel CPPC item. You can choose enable or disable. Unfortunately, it did nothing for my system which was stuck at 1.57 GHz. But, this morning I have full dynamic throttling from 800 MHz to 1.6 GHz. Turbo mode seems to work only on AC power.
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Mixed feelings on mine so far. Overall it's a very nice ultrabook, but there are a couple of annoyances. The wifi is a disappointment. It's fine for just using the internet (and I get the full speed provided by my ISP), but for copying across the network (e.g. to a NAS) it's much slower than I would expect from the 802.11ac standard. I tried plugging in a usb3.0 802.11ac adapter and got much faster speeds, so it's not my router/nas causing the issue.
The only other negative thing I have noticed is a few spots of backlight bleed. It seems usually only visible when the screen is black, but is also noticeable during dark scenes in a film for example. Is this common on the Spectre13?
Also it seems that HP in the UK only offers a 7 day returns policy if you change your mind (which is the legal minimum here). Bit stingy compared to the 21 days that HP offers in the US.
I don't actually notice any throttling/locking on mine yet so far when using AC power. On battery is seems throttled (doesn't use turbo) but not locked, which is acceptable for me. I also didn't notice any hiss with headphones, although I'm no audiophile
I really like the overall design, size/weight and speed when booting up.
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Burd said: ↑Strange, but those are *not* the settings I get (using the Sept. vintage Synaptics driver) when pushing the 'Defaults' button on the SmartSense settings. More like SmartSense (is yours labled palm rejection??) is 3 notches east of 'Off', restrict pointing to a zone is not checked, and filter activation time is about three quarters of a notch above zero. Odd that your defaults would be set differently. Driver level I'm using shows date of 9/19/2013, version 17.0.5.17Click to expand...
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- Now, move the mouse and start selecting stuff. You will then see where the actual mouse is acting on the page (different from the cursor location).
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Anyone else having these issues with widi? Anyone know how to get it working? Would be grateful if someone could test for me. You don't actually have to make a widi connection, just want to know if you can get to the search/add functionality.
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slysy said: ↑This doesn't work on mine. The "connect to a wireless display" appears, but after I select it a display settings screen opens with no option to search etc. Also if I go to charms bar, devices, project - the option to add display is missing from the bottom right.
Anyone else having these issues with widi? Anyone know how to get it working? Would be grateful if someone could test for me. You don't actually have to make a widi connection, just want to know if you can get to the search/add functionality.
Edit - Well, the option appeared appear after I rebooted the PC. However it times out when trying to connect now and I get an error message. It worked once for a minute or so, then errored out. It seems that widi is not usable on this machine for me. Would be interested to hear other people's experiences with widi on this machineClick to expand...
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Burd said: ↑Strange, but those are *not* the settings I get (using the Sept. vintage Synaptics driver) when pushing the 'Defaults' button on the SmartSense settings. More like SmartSense (is yours labled palm rejection??) is 3 notches east of 'Off', restrict pointing to a zone is not checked, and filter activation time is about three quarters of a notch above zero. Odd that your defaults would be set differently. Driver level I'm using shows date of 9/19/2013, version 17.0.5.17Click to expand...
Is anyone else having problems with the cursor constantly moving by itself as you type? This is approaching deal-breaker status, but I'm fairly confident there's a non-obvious fix.??
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racerjim said: ↑This sounds like the suite of settings my 13t has. I've been trying to tune it into my characteristics. I've gotten the flying cursor while typing periodically, so I've been scotching the slider slowly to the right. I get less palm interactions, but I have to press harder on the touchpad to get the swipe gestures to work. But there does seem to be an effect, and I expect to be able to tune it in.Click to expand...
**Possible eureka! I think my pointer sensitivity is set to max sensitivity (from when I was having scrolling problems). If it's still set that way, it may be reacting to very light palm brushes. I'll report back when I get back to my 13T.
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lovelaptops said: ↑Hmm. I'm not near the Spectre but my recollection is that if "restrict pointing to a zone" is unchecked then the filter activation time is non-operative, but I'll have to check mine and verify. When you say filter activation is 3/4 of a notch above zero do you mean not quite one tic/one second (ea tic is one second) or do you mean 3/4 of the way to the east, near the 5 sec tic? Also, what is your Edge Swipes set at? I ha e had it off because I'm not interested in the W8 gestures, but maybe that makes the far edges vulnerable to a palm "brush"
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lovelaptops said: ↑Extremely well said, my good colleagues. I did have to edit this post because while I was writing it in support stackPointer 2.0's comments, sootnsmoke's equally right-on-the-dot post appeared, so well articulating the same sentiments we share that I now feel a bit ashamed that my post comes off as far more an immature-sounding rant than the very professional and sophisticated treatments the two of you have given the matter. Nonetheless, mine comes from the heart and the head and, well, felt so good to write that I can't resist re-posting it, as little as it adds at this point. Also, please accept my apologies, Cohmar, if I sound more arrogant than I imply Apple and some of its customers are wont to be. I certainly didn't mean to single you out personally, just the tone of your post, which might sound a bit snobbish to someone who didn't know you.
I've never really been much of an Apple fanboy, but every Apple product I have purchased or helped someone set up fresh out of the box, particularly if it was a new product release, had its share of "quirks," that ranged from the annoying - hand blocking signal on all-metal-edged iPhone 4 - to the downright dysfunctional - chronic severe wifi problems on all Macbook products from roughly 2008 - 2012 - such that I would have to say this entirely new HP product, less than 3 months from the first production unit rolling off the line, has as solid a build and reliable operational performance as any of the new Mac/IOS products released in the past 5 years or more. And if you doubt that I am reporting accurately, do check out the threads on MacRumors or similar forums and see if their early adopters don't have easily as much, and usually a good deal more frustration with the products and the way the company responds to their complaints as what you can glean by reading the pages on this thread. Yes, it infuriates me that I still find the clickpad way short of the mark that Apple set over five years ago, and I would prefer it if tapping on said clickpad did not produce a somewhat tinny/hollow sound, but this machine is nothing short of extraordinary in its sleek design, more than competitive features and performance, exceedingly solid (dare I say "Apple-like") build quality and this HP can go toe-to-toe with any MacBook Air and have its gorgeous QHD display truly sophisticated design color and surface choices beat the pants off the MBA with its antiquated low-res TN panel, tired monotone aluminum finish and price higher by some $25%. What's more, if an HP customer encounters so much as a 1 week delay in shipment h/she can expect at least a $100 unsolicited discount and, if the product arrives with any hardware defects that require a replacement, an additional $100-$200 in discounts, coupons for future purchases, or free upgrades will accompany HP's apologies, as will free overnight shipping of the repaired or replaced unit, helping bridge the gap in service that the Apple retail network's walk-in service cannot otherwise be equaled.
If you hear more than a little push-back from me against what sounded like that smug, superior 'tude of that certain consumer electronics company and its customers that turns me - and millions and millions like me - off of Apple products, I'm pleased to report you have pitch-perfect hearing! While I would never advocate buying an inferior product for a non-competitive price simply because the superior product comes from an arrogant company that I might - in my heart of hearts - like to see taken down a peg, I can say with assurance that HP in this case - and increasingly more all of the top Ultrabook brands (eg, Samsung, Asus, even "the new" Acer (!)) takes most if not all of the MBA's former product superiority and either raises the bar of design and quality a notch or two above Apple's (truly long-in-the-tooth MBA design and specs) and/or at least fully matches it at a 20% - 30% price advantage, this HP Spectre 13T being an example of raising the bar considerably in screen specs and quality and undercutting Apple's price by over 20%.
So go ahead and cancel your HP order and march down to the Apple store and ask one of the 27 blue-shirted youngsters, 25 of whom aren't yet clear on the major differences between an MBA and an rMBP 13, to give you a freshly boxed product to take home with you and enjoy knowing that, while you may have paid more and gotten less, you got yourself an Apple, and that means you got "The Best."
My apologies for that entirely obnoxious and (mostly) uncalled-for rant. I should know better. I should behave better, be above the pettiness I have just exhibited, provided a more thoughtful, informative, measured and objective response, keeping any emotionality to myself. I promise to do better in the future. (But just this once, man did it feel great!!) Peace, Jeff
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lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!
Burd said: ↑Not quite 1 tic... the default. You're right, filter is inactive at defaults also. I have pointer sensitivity set to default as well (which is 2 notches from left).Click to expand...
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lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!
Cohmar said: ↑Thank you Stackpointer, Sootnsmaoke and Lovelaptops (aka Jeff). This is just what I wanted and needed to hear. The good of the system seems to get a little overwhelmed by the the frustrations and technical glitches of the system in this thread, but of course that's probably what this thread is partly for. All three of you have articulated that the good far outweighs the not so good in this system and for that I feel grateful and relieved. I am a little picky and a little OCD about my new technology purchases so I assume there will be a few things that will annoy me too. Jeff, I have never owned a Mac computer and have no burning desire to own one. I would much rather be thrilled with a very well built Windows system and this HP Spectre does look very promising. That's why I ordered it in the first place. I do have an IPad an an IPhone that I love because of the simplicity and because they work properly every time I use them and I use both of them heavily every day. If HP can build something of similar quality I will be thrilled. It's supposed to ship the 24th and I'll let you know what happens. And Jeff, I'm sure that Mac admirers are not all arrogant schmucks. I think even the most hard core Mac freak might jump ship if something of equal or greater quality is created by HP or any other company. The Spectre 13 may come very close. Thanks againClick to expand...
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quitenova said: ↑Every pc latpop I've had has been an advertisement for macs when it comes to quality and polish.Click to expand...
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I am unfortunately continuing to have this issue of the SD card randomly ejecting itself and then mounting itself all without me even touching it. I don't think I have any choice but to exchange this system since I haven't heard about anyone else complaining about this, I don't want to risk getting stuck with a lemon.
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Burd said: ↑Don't have any widi display to try, but check out Intel's site: Support for the Intel® Wireless Display (Intel® WiDi)
I tried the widi update tool and it claims my machine is ready to go, but who knows. Maybe it applies an update when run.Click to expand...
With respect to wifi speeds, I tried updating my router firmware. I also noticed that windows update was showing an optional 802.11ac adapter update, so installed that. No improvement in speed unfortunately
HP Spectre 13T-3000
Discussion in 'HP' started by theboswell, Oct 19, 2013.