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    HP Spectre 13T-3000

    Discussion in 'HP' started by theboswell, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. Raistlin1

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    I had the exact same issue with my QHD screen, large area of the top left part of screen was much lighter than the rest of screen. I also had a lot lof bleed along the bottom of my screen. I have returned it and a new one is being built now, I almost switched my replacement to the FHD screen but decided to keep the QHD. Besides the screen issues everything else was great, no fan noise and keyboard was perfect.
     
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    You can get 1.0.0.1015 from Intel's site if you're interested. I didn't notice any difference though. I am also not noticing any performance difference with it installed or not. I'm not 100% sure that the throttling being shown is accurate or a flaw in Windows at reporting speed. I did notice that if I uninstall the CPPC driver that you end up with an "Unknown Device" in Device Manager. Someone may have run some benchmarks on battery power that may show if there is a difference with it installed or not.
     
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    The symptom is a CPU "stuck" on one frequency. If it is stuck at around 1.6 GHz, you won't notice any decreased performance. But, if it is stuck at 700 MHz, you will see decreased performance. If throttling is active, you will see the CPU frequency change with load. Low load will give 700 MHz, high load will give 2.6 GHz. I have one battery test that gave about 8 1/2 hours. But, all tests after that gave about 7 1/2 hours. The 7 1/2 hour tests were with the dynamic throttling working. I don't know for sure, but I suspect the 8 1/2 hour test was with the CPU stuck at 700 MHz.

    Regards, Jim
     
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    That worked for text, which looks a lot better. Unfortunately, I found that with those settings, some extension icons (e.g. Xmarks) don't show up. The button is there on the toolbar but there is no icon. When I turn the HiDPI setting off, and the window becomes very small the icons are there. When set to on, two of them disappear. Strange bug.
     
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    With my CPPC driver installed and using Windows Task Manager (the performance tab) I do notice the dynamic changes with frequency. I don't think it is stuck. However, I didn't notice much battery life change between it being installed and uninstalled. Not sure what benefit it is providing.
     
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    Very sad how scaling works fine on Mac and Chrome OS.
    Someone at Google should realize Windows is starting to catch up in the screen resolution department.
     
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    Yeah I saw it earlier. Google translate was horrible but I got the gist of it. They usually translate the reviews later.

    They generally do very thorough reviews but sometimes their results don't correspond with what their readers experience. So maybe they received a poor panel in their review unit. I hope they get the translation up soon though so one can actually understand it.
     
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    Jim, any status on the above?
     
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    Did you get the 1440p panel? This is the first review I've seen of the 1440p panel, as the other English/American reviewers had the 1080p panel.
    Interestingly, they got a fairly high >300nit brightness measurement, though some of the owners here noted their 1440p panel didn't get too bright. Maybe German models somehow ship with a different panel? I don't think QC could vary gamut and brightness by that large of an amount.

    Either way, it's pretty great that notebookcheck was able to review the Spectre. Very relieved to see that the palm rest and WASD area stay cool under load.
     
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    Yes, see post #1450. Same version but an earlier date. I don't know what to think.

    So far, it appears that dynamic throttling is still working.

    See post # 1453 for yet another version of the driver.

    Regards, Jim
     
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    I think it would depend on your use. If you tend to load the CPU in your typical session, you probably wouldn't notice much impact on battery life. But if you are a light duty user you might see an impact.

    Regards, Jim
     
  13. Dpat09

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    1:31 pm
    International shipment release - Import
    ANCHORAGE, AK
    1:16 pm
    Arrived at FedEx location
    ANCHORAGE, AK
    8:58 pm
    In transit
    SHENZHEN CN
    6:30 pm
    In transit
    SHENZHEN CN
    6:00 pm
    International shipment release - Import
    SHENZHEN CN


    YEAH!

    Any chance I could get it tomorrow? Since it is 2 day shipping? Although the estimated date is Tuesday.
     
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    I have gone from top to bottom on Intel's site and I can't find any evidence of this driver. Can you post a link?

    Thanks, Jim
     
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    I doubt it unless you live in a FedX Distribution Center city. Anyway, congratulations on your purchase.

    Regards, Jim
     
  16. randy_in_nc

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    Nope, but I'm hoping for Monday possibly. Mine is traveling with yours! :thumbsup:

    Exact same shipping info - Mine's in Alaska too.
     
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    I just hope i don't get a dud this time.

    Edit: 3:43 pm

    Departed FedEx location
    ANCHORAGE, AK


    The last time it said that (first spectre), it was in Memphis the next morning and in Texas the same day on the truck for delivery.
    IDK but here's to hoping it will be checked in Memphis by 11ish. If so hopefully FedEx also follows through like last time. Note: i'm saying this not knowing if they do Saturday deliveries(which i'm sure they do).
     
  18. Cohmar

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    I have the QHD display and Chrome work absolutely fine. I am reading this site on Chrome ant the text looks fine. It appears to be the same text Quality as IE. In fact it seems that Chrome is generally easier than IE to navigate on this computer.
     
  19. randy_in_nc

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    Mine left Alaska at 3:54 PM. :D
     
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    Yep...I got it to work too (see above). Unfortunately,some extension icons don't like the scaling compatibility setting. For example, put xmarks on the toolbar. It is functional but the blue x is invisible (just looks like a blank space on the toolbar until you mouseover). I tried reinstalling extensions and even Chrome and as soon as you check the box for disabling scaling, it becomes a blank box. It does this for other extension buttons too. For some reason Chromecast and Lastpass still show up fine though. Weird.
     
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    Weird, I found it on there but now I can't. If you do a search for CPPC 1.0.0.1015 on Google several other locations to download it show up though. I'll keep looking and if I find it again, I'll post a link from Intel's site.
     
  22. Dpat09

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    "12:46 am
    Arrived at FedEx location
    MEMPHIS, TN"

    I think* I can confidently say mine will likely be delivered tomorrow. Sorry mean today! What state do you life in ?
     
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    Hi

    I ordered mine like a week ago, i7 256gb QHD, but I forgot the AC WLAN |:
    you think its critical? anyone here ordered with bgn and can tell if its good enough?
    Im thinking of returning mine as soon as I get it and get a new one with AC.

    thx
     
  25. fuelscience

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    Could you just call HP and cancel the original order and submit a new order?

    FuelScience
     
  26. randy_in_nc

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    No, unfortunately, HP doesn't do that. You have to just call them and get a Return Authorization and they email you a label. You put it on the box when you get it and drop it off at a FedEx location. They either refund your money or send you a replacement laptop. It still takes a while to get a replacement.
     
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    I live in Greensboro, NC. I'm going to check on mine now.


    Mine is actually in Greensboro as of 6:41 AM this morning. :D

    I still don't expect it today though.
     
  28. Dpat09

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    Yeah mine is in the city at a "destination sort facility "as of 5:31 AM. Is it possible that I could go pick it up myself?

    Edit: So it hasn't been sorted yet and is still in a huge pellet thing I believe. Called and they said they can't hold it there. And the first delivery attempt will be Tuesday (based on estimation) but more than likely will be delivered Monday. Does anyone know if FedEx delivers Sundays?
     
  29. Cohmar

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    I'd like to make a correction to my answer above. I viewed IE and Chrome on the on the CNET site side by side and IE was a little sharper and there were some slight differences in scaling. However the differences are not very big and Chrome still looked and worked fine. Chrome seems actually better for my ICloud calendar and contacts and notes.
     
  30. Cohmar

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    I also accidentally ordered mine without AC WLAN. I have not done any objective testing but it appears to be plenty fast. When it comes, unpack it. play with it, and see if it meets your needs. If not, it is very easy to pack up and send back for exchange.
     
  31. randy_in_nc

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    FedEx does not deliver on Sundays as far as I know.
     
  32. lovelaptops

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    Congrats Randy! You certainly have paid your dues to get to a fully functional and superbly performing 13T!

    Remember, there is no "perfection" in electronic devices, but you yourself said in retrospect you wished you'd kept the first FHD model so I think you'll do well to approach the new "arrival" with reasonable expectations. Based on my own experience with my now 2-week old loaded up model - missing only the upgrade to W8.1 Pro - I consider this a truly premium piece of kit with many virtues and few niggles that collectively don't aggregate to any show stopper even if not a single one of them improves at all - though I am already aware of several "fixes" (driver updates, some excellent workarounds from the many awesome contributors to this here thread, etc.) and I'm really enjoying this as much as any new laptop since my first Sony Z1 in 2010 (high praise, indeed!) I really hope the QHD screen works out for you.

    Confession: after all of my strident talk of backlight bleed being a necessary "evil" of ultra-bright and IPS screens and that I didn't think it could ever be noticed except on splash screens with no color drivers...well, all this constant talk of it and people posting pictures of their displays got me to become hyper-focused and I now notice there is just a trace of "bleed" in the lower right corner of my QHD screen and, if the background is steadily dark enough, I can see just a small amount of, well, "lightness?" (!). Bottom line: no screens have uniform lighting from backlight coming through the screen and all modern, IPS, high brightness screens have small areas where a little additional light breaks through, though the edges are the most vulnerable to noticeable light variances. I'm sure there are some screens that are designed or manufactured poorly and others that will just have some quality control issues but by and large, you just UN-focus on it and you don't even notice it.

    I hope the third time is the charm for you! I can assure you that there are no negative consequences of the QHD resolution on the 13" display and Windows, browsers, and all software I have used, scale just fine and it's a gorgeous screen with wonderful color gamut and accuracy. Further, the computer is a dream to use in every other respect. I'm still trying to get "friendly" with the touchpad but we're moving in the right direction. Sorry, I droned on so long. I know what you have been through and I am really rooting for you! :)

    Take care,
    Jeff
     
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    Just thought I would give my experience with trying to get Windows 7 installed on the Spectre13..

    I had an original Win 7 Ultimate 64 DVD

    1. I changed bios to legacy mode
    2. Booted from the Win 7 DVD using a USB DVD drive
    3. Picked "Custom Install" and deleted original Win 8 partition (the 200 odd gig one)
    4. Win 7 installed fine and started up.
    5. Since Win 7 didn't find built in WiFi I plugged in a USB WiFi adaptor installed its driver and got online ok
    6. Ran Windows update (it found many software updates) but only 1 hardware one the touch pad so it updated this.

    So Windows updates doesn't find built in WiFi, Video or a bunch of other Spectre 13 drivers.
    Not really usable without these working properly - so went back to Win 8 (via backup copy of original OS DVD's)

    If anyone finds out how or when we are able to get Windows fully working I would love to know how!

    Frosty
     
  34. randy_in_nc

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    Thanks! I'm keeping my fingers crossed. As long as the light bleed on the QHD screen isn't too bad I will keep it. I'm hoping that I get lucky and HP quality control is getting better.

    I am currently on my new HP Envy 15t-j100 Quad TouchSmart. It only has a TN display panel but there is NO light bleed on it and the FHD screen is really nice (as long as you're not looking at it from off axis). I'm really liking this one for a "work horse" laptop. One terabyte hybrid drive, 28GB SSD cache, 8 GB RAM, 2GB dedicated graphics card, backlit keyboard, AC wireless, Windows 8.1, and a finger print scanner. :D
     
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    Frostyl, you should be able to use the Windows 7 drivers that Intel provides for the 7260AC or 7260N wifi adapter and 4th gen Intel Core HD4400 video from their download center: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx.
    Choose product categories/product line "graphics" / "laptop graphics drivers" for the video drivers, and "wireless networking" / "intel wifi products" for the 7260 drivers.
     
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    You will tell a DRAMATIC difference only if your wireless access point is wireless AC capable and if you are transferring files between systems on your local wireless network. You won't tell any difference with internet connected activities and browsing websites or downloading from the internet. Wireless AC is much faster than previous standards but it only applies to local network wireless transfers between capable systems (residential speeds to the internet are much slower than wireless 'N' throughput). However, if were me, I would not have a wireless 'N' system if AC is available for $20 more. The reason is, that is not something you can upgrade later at any cost. When I buy a system I buy a max configuration available at the time of purchase and use it for many years.
     
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    Many thanks - will give them a try. :hi2:

    Has anyone here actually got Win 7 running correctly on their Spectre 13 yet? :confused:
     
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    @GOGOMONKEY: Cohmar (above) and others have given you good, thoughtful feedback for your concern over the wifi card you ordered with your Spectre 13T. I will add just one more data point for your consideration: my own experience with the Intel 7260AC wifi card in my new Spectre 13T. I don't have an AC router, but I do have a high end recent vintage N router (Asus RT-N66U) which is used solely for enabling our devices (laptops, tablets, smartphones - none with AC wifi cards) in my home to access the Internet wirelessly. In theory, having the AC wifi card in my 13T shouldn't make any difference in Internet download speeds, server "ping" speeds nor in the distance between my 13T and my N router that will maintain the fastest possible download speeds. It shouldn't make any difference, but empirically it does! In fact, it can make a large difference in certain circumstances. Maximum download speeds are not effected, but the distance away from the router that the Spectre 13T with Intel 7260AC wifi card can be and still reach maximum Internet communication speeds supplied by my ISP is vastly greater than with each of 5 different laptops with various Intel 62xx or 53xx cards, a nearly new iPhone 5s, Samsung Galaxy s4 and Samsung Note 8 tablet. The differences can be amazing: I can be 75 feet away and one floor below the N router with my 13T with the AC card and easily obtain ping times of 10 seconds and download speeds of 60Mbs (the maximum attainable from the ISP, using an ethernet cable), while several the other laptops with N wifi cards can obtain maximum download speeds of 35 Mb/s, and that speed drops off sharply if the laptop is more than 20 feet away from the router at which point speeds go below 20Mb/s and at the 75 ft, one story lower point that the 13T with Intel 7260AC delivers 60Mb/s, the other (recent model HP and Sony) laptops with Intel N wifi cards experience drops in download speeds to 5-7Mb/s. Results similar to that of the other laptops occurred with the mobile devices.

    I am, of course, delighted with the apparent extended range and higher sustained download speeds (though still within the "draft N" standard) I can achieve with the new HP Spectre 13T/Intel 7260AC wifi card. What I cannot say is whether there is something inherent in the AC card that produces extended range at high speeds or if it is a function of the design, components and architecture of the 7260 card itself - with or without the AC radio - that achieves far, far greater range at high speeds. I ordered the AC wifi card simply because it was only a $20 upgrade and I presume I will upgrade my router at some point when ISP speeds increase beyond the range of N radios or if I decide to use the router as the hub of a home LAN and can achieve much higher data transfer speeds using the AC spec hardware throughout. It is likely that you will find the 7260N wifi card in the 13T will perform quite well for you, possibly as well as the AC card does in my laptop. But I believe I read that you cannot upgrade the wifi card in the 13T yourself in the future; if that is true, annoying as it may be, I might be inclined to return your 13T and reorder with the AC wifi card. If I am misinformed and it is as easy to swap out the wifi card for an AC later, as it always has been in pre-Ultrabook laptops, then provided the N card provides good speed and range now I would recommend you leave things as they are and consider a wifi upgrade in the future if the benefits are achievable.

    (I can't begin to fathom why I needed to write a novella to describe my wifi card experience! :eek: If you read through it all, I owe you 5 minutes of your life back. :hi2:
     
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    Can it be that your lowly HP is holding its own vs the iconic fruity guy? :D Hope so. As nice and sturdy as the rMbp 13 and MBA 13 are, this Spectre appears to me to be pretty much as solidly built, but with a good bit of finesse comprised of the unusual finishes, coloring and some subtle design cues, such as the 'reverse wedge in the back of the unit in which both the milled aluminum lid and base come together in a flared, aerodynamic "lift," as if it was designed for stealth flight. With both the MBA and MBP Apple initially wowed the market and led several - HP most notably - to "flatter" via imitation. I think this time the pupil has outdone its master, who hasn't altered its iconic designs in over 5 years!

    Randy, are you going to have to choose one or the other HPs or do you have need for two machines for different purposes or people? It is a bit hard to imagine the two machines as substitutes for each other, given the powerful hardware advantage of the Envy 15 and the completely different attributes of the Spectre 13T: Ultrabook profile, tight build, diminutive size and weight, ultra high end screen and nearly double battery life. BTW, looking at some reviews it seems the 1080p TN touch screen in the 15t is not nearly as bright as either of the 13Ts' (under 200 nit vs. over 300 nit) and this alone (plus the inherent differences in TN vs. IPS display technology) will produce at least some increased light bleed in the 13T as compared to the 15t. As I experience just a hint of light bleed in my 13T's QHD display at full brightness with very dark backgrounds at the lower edge, I would imagine that if you were to notice any in yours you could eliminate it entirely by dimming the screen to a level which would equalize the brightness of the two displays (likely, you would eliminate any bleed at a setting that would still be far brighter than the brightest setting of the 15t) and you would likely find the "adjusted" 13T display to be superior in all other respects. Hopefully tomorrow we can put an end to the speculation and you can report your results to the throngs (of at least one:thumbsup :). It's been a while since I've even thought about a laptop with a standard voltage quad core cpu and a powerful discrete gpu, simply because I don't game and the ULV cpus and IGPs have become more than powerful enough for my day-to-day use. You can't go wrong either way.
     
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    I'm hoping someone can help me out...frustrated...although my issue might educate others. I was trying Intel's full version of the ProSET/Wireless software from their website and while it worked fine, you lost some of the features from Windows 8 (like tracking data usage on a connection). I uninstalled it only to find that it leaves A LOT of crap behind that is not easily found and removed manually (e.g. the Intel Connection Utility and several services that can't be removed). I'll probably drop Intel a line and ask why (it has done this before for me on a Windows 7 machine too) and what the method is to remove it without messing up everything else.

    I got tired of trying and decided to start over from scratch and try out my recovery drive. I put in the USB and it booted find and I noticed that it gave me 3 options. One indicated a clean install with the ability to choose what software to install. After about 20 minutes of copying the files and restarting the machine it ends up in an error that won't let me proceed. I start over and choose the second option that was similar but ended with the same result. Finally, I started over again and simply chose the factory image that restores the machine to the condition it arrived in (i.e. with the bloatware). This version worked fine...so to save you some time, you might not want to try the other options if you've created recovery media. Anyways, I got Windows 8.1 up and running again.

    My current issue is as follows: I uninstalled the McAfee software again and ran the MCPR tool (twice). I don't see any folders left behind but, for some reason, when I go to the notification area on the taskbar and click "customize" the "mcuicnt" icon is still present in the list. I don't know if this is simply an notification icon cache issue or if there is something hidden somewhere causing it to still show. I looked it up and went to the location described and that folder has been effectively deleted. Is it a registry entry or can someone highlight how to completely remove mcafee's product. If the other recovery options would've worked, I wouldn't have had this problem.
     
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    Eh, I don't think I'd worry about it too much unless you do a lot of PC-to-PC file transfers over wireless. The main reason everyone takes it is that it's a very cheap upgrade. You can get the card for about $35 on Amazon anyway though if you wanted to swap it.
     
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    Quick question: Are both cards dual band (2.4 and 5 GHz)? After having a laptop rendered pretty much useless when a 2.4 GHz video baby monitor was turned on, I resolved to always go with dual band machines to avoid that frustration. I couldn't convince my wife that my internet access was more important than her grand babies when they spent the night! :)

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    randy_in_nc Notebook Consultant

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    I will be keeping both (although I truly don't need 2 laptops), as long as the Spectre's display doesn't have a NOTICEABLE light bleed problem.

    Actually, the HP 15t-j100 (FHD) is plenty bright enough for me. I don't think I even have it at it's brightest level. I did calibrate it and it looks great to me and it has great sound as well. I am very happy with it. :thumbsup:

    I most likely will use the Spectre for it's portability and possibly use it in my great room and the 15t-j100 in my bedroom or for most of my file storage needs.

    My Spectre 13t-3000 is being delivered TODAY so I will know more by tonight. :D
     
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    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Mike, that sounds very frustrating! My best suggestion for removing all the jetsam and flotsam that remains after you use Windows to uninstall a program is to instead use one of the third-party tools that are designed specifically to remove all the miscellaneous files, registry entrees, etc. that were created when you installed and used the program you are now seeking to "obliterate" from your system. Revo Uninstaller is probably the most popular of these, but I've had some problems with it in the past - mostly a failure to get 100% of the junk removed, though it usually removes more than Windows alone and often removes it all. My personal favorite go-to Windows utility for this is a free program called Advanced Uninstaller Pro. I've never encountered a case where AUP did not remove all the entrails of a deleted program and it operates in such a way that you can choose by category or individual file what you want it to remove after it has completed a standard uninstall. Though it warns you to be careful about wholesale removal of all files and registry entries, I just create a restore point in case the removal of all the items causes something else to malfunction, then I have the program remove everything it finds. Never had a problem with it removing too much or not enough. I don't know how effective it will be for you now given that you have already uninstalled the program and it may not be able to identify the connected items. It might work if you once again restored the hard drive to its factory settings, then use AUP to uninstall all the McAfee stuff - and, while you're at it, any of the bloatware that came back with your factory-state restore.

    Hope this helps, now or at least in the future. I share your disdain of McAfee products and plan to remove them from my Spectre 13 once I'm positive this unit is a keeper (I'm 95% there!). There are so many great and free anti-virus/spyyware/malware programs it is a shame HP decided to provide a full year's subscription to McAfee. For a while they were putting a full year of Norton Internet Security which is not "your father's Norton anti-virus" consistently comes out in comparison tests near the top of the list for both correct identification of malware and unintrusiveness and it has some other utilities that are actually quite useful though they can be replicated with other free utilities. Still, Norton is now a turnkey product that will either operate entirely in background - with no noticeable impact on performance - or provide you with varying levels you choose for real time notifications. It's so good that I may just pay for a renewal when it expires on that machine, but will probably not buy it for the Spectre 13 and will use Avast or one of the other top AV programs.
     
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    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Sounds great. Fingers crossed for your Spectre 13. BTW, what tool did you use to calibrate the screen on your 15t?
     
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    I just used the calibration that is built into Windows 8.1, not a professional tool or program.

    I did a 'search' for 'calibrate' and it pointed me to where I could check out the display for different parameters. It was pretty close to start with. i just fine tuned it a little. It is not a professional calibration but good enough for me. Colors and photos look great to my eyes.
     
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    Well, I got my 3rd Spectre 13t-3000 (this time a QHD panel) and after a quick once over I am happy to say that it doesn't have any noticeable light bleed (OK, if is squint there might be a hint of one at the bottom) but it is a keeper. :thumbsup:

    Also, I did a quick check of the screen and it looks great. No pixel problems that I can see. :D

    More later tonight.
     
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    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Woo-Hoo! Woot! Woot! :) :D

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    Alright got my second one today after returning the last one for screen defects.

    Screen: This time there are no dead pixels to be found yet! However there's a little bleed, a little annoying :(. But definitely not a deal breaker. I'll post pictures later, but to just describe it; it looks as if someone pressed in the bezel of the screen and the screen looks lighter on the sides. The last one I had did not have this issue. There is small leak at the top left, and tiny leak at the bottom right. Other than that most of everything else seems fine hardware wise. BAD NEWS! While the computer was turning off I noticed some screen burn in! Anyone out there with a QHD or FHD screen please check if your screen is doing the same. Starting to think that pressed in look is causing this. I invite you to look in the top right corner where the close, minimize, and maximize buttons are. Open a darker app or image and go into full screen, or really any color, and tell me if you don't see it. It seems to go away after a while when using a different app(metro app for fullscreen). You can immediately notice if you set your theme color to dark gray and open the photos app. Potential Deal Breaker. You will see the burn-in after using chrome for a while and then switch to another app.Really any app can burn in. looked at other parts of the screen, and low & behold; I could see the tab shape of chrome and the scroll bar. This may not be a big deal to some people because it fades away after a while, however I'm guessing 80% of the time you will be using something with the buttons up there etc anything static on the screen. I have a bad feeling it will get worse over time. I am using a test many macbook pro retina owner used to test there screens for "IPS Image retention". Also I would like to add that the retention seems to be only where the "leaks" are. So it disappears within 2-5 minutes as the image changes. Does this sort of thing get worse with age?

    Highly recommend this test: http://www.mitchmalone.name/retina-test/

    Here are the images: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dpikh7po4x9j1fi/MWZywnnrAz
    BTW those were taken with a Nexus 4, don't expect great pictures lol.

    Fan: The fan noise is the same as the last one, which was almost non-existent.

    Keyboard : Keyboard back light seems a bit better actually, a bit more even lighting.

    Track Pad :track pad seems to be working better, the pal rejection also seems to be working better. I just typed all of this on the spectre and the arrow didn't move at all, I even made sure to make sure my hands were all over it while typing lol. I tried all variations from a light brush of the palm to the whole hand.

    Sound :Speakers seem fine too, although at high volumes it might crackle in the 3D movie setting. Also the audio EQ really sucks the volume fluctuates when bassy. Even with all the settings left alone, it will get louder and silent as soon as the bass hits. It isn't noticeable on the speakers. When having headphones plugged in it is VERY NOTICEABLE. A simple driver uninstall I think will fix this.

    Software :I haven't checked it all out yet.
    I can tell you that the frequency seems to be stuck at 1.68GHz no matter the load.
    Just checked,(I'm sure this has been posted) after restarting it seems to jump higher and lower than 1.68GHz, and up to 1.77GHz on battery saver, and full on high performance mode.

    More soon.Keep checking back, there will be edits.
     
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    sootnsmoke Notebook Guru

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    Just got mine this afternoon. No screen defects on this one. I did notice the hinge is not perfectly centered in the hinge area :-( The hinge pivot on the right has a noticeable larger gap than the one on the left. What the heck happened there during assembly? The mechanics of the hinge work fine and the overrall fit of the screen while closed to the base appears acceptable. Does your replacement system show skew to one side or the other or is it centered?

    Same F13 bios and the dynamic frequency range intermittent locking is the same as the first system. I did not figure that would be any different. Hopefully an update in the future there.
     
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