*HP dm3 (1XXX series) Owners Lounge*

The touchpad is made by ALPS, a japanese component supplier.

When I demoed the dm3, the touchpad was definitely a negative to me. The pad RESISTS finger movement, and feels much like running a finger across a pane of window glass - tacky and constantly pulling at your fingers. This is probably due in part to the super-glossy texture they put onto the pad surface. I'm sure you could get used to using the pad, but in the initial impression the surface choice seems less ergonomical than it should be. Regardless, the shiny chrome surface of the pad looked gorgeous, and accents the brushed metal well. While I think making the pad matte and more similar to the palm rest would have worked well better in the overall design, the shininess does add that little flair to the surface. I didn't demo multi touch functionality, but hearing from various users on these forums, the drivers seem buggy in Windows 7. I consider the touchpad to be the only error on the otherwise well-thought layout.

If you're concerned with the smoothness of the trackpad, I recommend looking at skinstyler.com . The site sells touchpad covers for all laptops by letting you choose the dimensions of your touchpad (which I've confirmed to be 85mm x 40mm on the dm3.) I have an order on the way from them right now, and I'll be sure to drop off a review of the covers when they arrive.

 

Deceptive? Does Anyone tell you the TDP of the whole motherboard when you buy a computer or just the CPU? Most likely because the only thing on it with a heatink or fan is the CPU, or conversely the GPU. So, how much cooling is needed on the GPU itself seems like a relevant thing to know.

You had free shipping, and you want to get money back

This happens all the time, companies do shipping labels online, but it doesnt get picked up for a few days.

Well, HP cancelled my Bing cashback and I didnt use any discounts or coupons, so if you want to keep the 25% dont mess with it. Im sending mine back if they dont honor the 25%. I imagine they might have another 25% cashback on Thanksgiving.

Was this buffered streaming video from an interenet source where CPU and GPU may have nothing to do with the skippiness? It would seem impossible to actually view 1080P on a 720P screen, but I am willing to bet it will play 1080P just fine onto your HDTV when playing a Blu-Ray or file actually on the computer.

Maybe it is because its an IGP, using shared memory through the memory controller in the CPU.

I ordered a DM3 last week, waiting for it to come in. Just catching up on this thread.

One question...who has tried the quick boot Non-Windows web GUI? Does it work well, does it use less power? Thanks

 

Wow, well this is the place to get dm3 info.

I am trying to decide between the SU7300 and the SP9300, both with the 105M. Anyone know what kind of hit does battery life takes with the SP9300? Are both processors ULV? On paper the difference in speed seems huge, but I wonder if its really all that much. I need my PC to be up for long hours writing (at least 4 on battery), average gaming, and some graphics programs like photoshop and ArcGIS.

Also, does anyone know the bus speed of the DDR3 in the dm3t? I can't find any more details on this memory anywhere on HP's site.

much appreciated

 

Ever heard of the edit button? You should consolidate the information back into one post... then I will dignify it with a response. (I'm only partly kidding... lol)

 

Course I'm joking bro

 

Intel's memory should be ddr3 1066. I believe the AMD version only has ddr2 memory, however.

The approximation for the SU7300 + G105 seems to be about 6 hours. The SP9300 seems to be 4-5 hours, but we're not sure yet. We should know by the end of this week when everyone gets their dm3z/t's in the mail.

 

THe more I look the more confusing it sems.. so is this one

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/328626/HP-Pavilion-dm3-1030us-13-3/#

a better deal than

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Pa...ento/9556358.p?id=1218123847359&skuId=9556358

Just roughly looking seems that the OD model has more ram and has 50 bucks rebate over the BB model. I know there are 3 level of CPUs but neither listing shows which one. Though probably the lowest I'm sure.

And thE office depot is LED too right? or the DM3 only sports LED? and it looks like office depot's return policy is NO return on all computer, exchange in 14 days only

 

They are both the same computer. The OD deal is better.

 

Thx, dat's what I thought...I have a gaming desktop with i7 + ATI 5870 now.. and the new asus G60VX gaming laptop...I want the G60 but not sure if I need it.......have a few days left to decide to keep i as my heavy portable or return it the get the DM3.....only thing that bugs me is the several user and expert reviewer's comment on DM3's choppy HD viewing....

 

HD youtube seems great, but what are your experiences with HD Hulu, especially those with L335/3200 dm3s?

I am finding confusing results...

I believe this Hulu video is 720p:
http://go.notebookreview.com/?id=525X832&url=http://www.hulu.com/hd/48731

Unless my eyes are fooling me, it plays even smoother than the 480p stargate and house episodes i tried on Hulu (they were watchable Fullscreen, but i could detect a certain lack of smoothness)

In the popped out 1280 x 720 frame the 720p Hulu Video ("legend of the seeker" or something...) played PERFECTLY. And full screen, on LOW quality i'd say it was nearly perfect. 720p plays better than 480p in Hulu??? (Note, this is all based on my observations watching it...not scientific comparisons)

 

Wait..you have the DM3 with AMD Neo X2 + HD 3200? youtube HD is ok from what I heard no doubt, hulu HD is ok for u too? I was just washing hulu from my gaming laptop , i saw the HD indicator says 480p @_@ couldn't find a 720p tab.

 

On Hulu's website, type in Hulu HD, and a link will pop up for the three Hulu HD shows currently available. The more important thing regarding Hulu HD is that it is the medium of the future, but currently there are virtually no shows available on hulu in HD. But pretty soon, Flash 10.1 will come out and the GPU will be able to help the AMD and the Intel versions play perfectly smooth.

 

no, i downloaded the mkv and video player to the hard drive before playing it.

 

Just for informations sake, based on what I have heard from an HP trainer, the way HP tests battery life is to basically keep the screen at 50% brightness, wireless radio OFF, and let it run.

 

Like I care if you respond. as if its easier to read or respond to now.

 

dm3 owners, could you please leave a screenshot of the hardware manager deployed, so that it is possible to see the exact nature (vendor and model) of all of the hardware present? Especially for webcam, touchpad, sound card, wlan controller, and card reader. This is for seeking the compatibility of this hardware with linux.

 

I'm receiving my laptop today. I tried to go to skinstyler.com but all I see is mac stuff.

 

Yea basicly its this

OLED offers the best blacks and lowest power use however they are still extremely expensive and basicly aren't offered past phone sizes

Plasmas offer the the next best blacks but have the highest power usage and are the next most expensive

LCDs offer the cheapest cost but the bad blacks and are normaly thicker , they don't use as much power as plasma but are pretty close

LED LCDs get rid of the back light and replace with leds so power consumption is greatly reduced. The offer blacks almost on par with plasma and oled .


Basicly at this point in time the LED price premium will be reduced or wiped out over time if you plan on using your monitor for a few years. 40% less power usage will easily wipe out that $100 price premium after 3 years or so.


At this point wait till cyber monday or black friday , its about a month away.

 

NICE! if you don't mind, could you please tell me your spec and maybe play some MKV files if you have and youtube HD and plaese let me know if it plays ok or choppiness and how bad please?

 

as far as I know hulu tv shows is 480p ?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/105437/the-office-koi-pond 480p is what they considered hi res

 

Its coming today!! Just as I said it would.. (eventhough the estimated delivery date is tomorrow 11/3).

Date/Time Activity Location Details
Nov 2, 2009 7:51 AM On FedEx vehicle for delivery ALEXANDRIA, VA

Tracking no.: 40195288XXXX
E-mail notificationsOn Schedule
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On FedEx vehicle for delivery
ALEXANDRIA, VA Shipment Dates
Ship date Oct 29, 2009
Estimated delivery Nov 3, 2009 by 10:30 AM
Destination
ALEXANDRIA, VA

 

WoooooHOoooo its here. Just received my dm3. will post again with my impressions.

 

If you can please post MKV file playback, youtube. or at laest those online 480 720p movie trailer playback? Im very close to pulling the trigger and HD movie playback is one thing I look at the most.....please.....thanks! and congrad!

 

Alright, more Hulu testing on the L335/3200:

All Hulu plays perfect on Hulu page in High Quality (360p-720p)

Hulu appears to play perfectly popped out and maximized (that's big, but not quite full screen)

All Hulu (including low res) seems to be less than perfectly smooth in Full screen on High Quality (though it is definitely watchable, i just detect that it isn't super smooth!)

Hulu (even 720p) plays close to perfect Full screened on Low quality.

Strangely...it still strikes me that the HD shows play even smoother than the Hi-Res shows, but i have to be wrong on that point.

Others please add your conclusions, i am sure there are people who want this info to make a purchasing decision and I don't want them deciding on my experience alone.

 

Also regarding the touch-pad:

I was innitially very dissappointed by the touchpad...felt like my finger could barely move. BUT i don't know if i just got used to using the right amount of pressure or what, but i don't really mind it. It works just fine for me now.

Has anyone else found the same thing?

 

For those of you who have picked up the dm3 with only the b/g wireless (NOT N) what card shows up in your notebook?

 

Nov 2, 2009 9:43 AM Delivery exception ALEXANDRIA, VA Customer not available or business closed - Signature required

Dammit.. now I gotta drive to pick it up from Fedex. I was hoping they were going to leave it at my rental office.. :0(

 

I got my dm3z with the hd 4330. Anyone want anything tested?

 

For starters what wireless card ya got

Next up I'd say run 3dmark06, pcmark05, wprime 1.55 and do a quick battery test.

 

Hi Guys,

This thread has been very useful, here is my dilema, I am on a strict budget and need to choose one of these configurations.

AMD Turion(TM) Neo X2 Dual-Core L625 Processor (1.6GHz, 1MB) w/512MB ATI Radeon(TM) HD 4330 Graphics with FREE Upgrade to 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection

or

AMD Turion(TM) Neo X2 Dual-Core L625 Processor (1.6GHz, 1MB) with ATI Radeon(TM) HD 3200 Graphics with 320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection

This will be my daily commuter to school, I use Word, Powerpoint, and Filemaker Pro, with the occasional Photoshop. I have a HP DV9500t (160gb 5400 RPM) and since I upgraded to Windows 7 the boot time is excellent. Battery life is not an issue because the are power outlets everywhere. Also may not use battery at all to save weight. Heat is also an issue, my DV9500t is hot as a nuclear reactor even with extra notebook fan.


Please let me know what you think and why? Don't be afraid to get technical.
Thanks for your help.

 

yea yea MKV?

By the way Office depot deal is better with more ram than bestbuy model and has 50 rebate, but after searching their return policy is NO RETURN exchange for same item only and often time has horror story even then, just google it.. Im eyegballing the bestbuy one.. less hassel and no return restocking fee for me...

can you test Youtube HD MKV and other movie trailer in HD>?

 

The first one. You can upgrade a hard drive at any time for $60-70 on eBay should space become an issue.

 

I stuck with the default selection of the b/g one. I got a

Atheros AR9285 802.11 b/g/n

 

want to give me a link to a youtube video you want tested and I will test it. Right now i'm cleaning junk off the thing that hp put there to annoy me with.

 

Wish I can .. at work now and stupid IT blocked youtube....

 

Any of the 9300/g105m's arrived yet?
give us your first thoughts ASAP , people..!

 

Hey guys, did anyone opt for the 500gb 5400 rpm hard drive over the 320gb 7200 rpm hard drive? I was thinking that if battery life and heat is an issue, wouldn't the lower rpm HD be better? Also, would the increased data density of the 500gb actually make data retrieval faster than the 320gb at 7200?

 

If battery life is important to you and you don't need a large amount of storage you should take that $90 bucks and invest in an ssd drive. Sure they are more expensive but will use less than half the power of a 500 gig drive and are many times faster

 

just got my su7300/g105m build, have to work today but i will get some game demos running as well as i want to post sisoft sandra cpu benchmarks (hoping to compare with the amd processor)

edit:
sandra arithmetic 5.93 gflops 8.01 gips
multi media - 13.89 mpixels 19.66 mpixels

comparing to the mv40 (single core amd version) it got significantly higher, though it doesnt have the dual core ones to compare too, so if someone could post results that would be cool.

 

OK, ive been playing with my dm3 with turion and 4330 for the last hour or so. Throughly impressed with the build quality and the looks. Love the keyboard, the trackpad has a small amount of friction to it.

Tired playing youtube HD video of metallica's orion and it played very well. PLayed a trailer of 2012 1080p quicktime and that also played well with no skipping, but will slight motion blur. Hulu hd of the Legend of the Seeker played perfectly in full. This was all played with ati 4330.

Ive also been playing around with the switchable graphics and it works like a charm. The fan noise, however, is much more noticeable while on the 4330 than on the igp.

Overall I love this laptop.

 

hey if you could do a favor and download sisoft sandra http://www.sisoftware.net/

and compare results with mine above that would be great

looking at getting some game tests tonight like fear demo, arkham asylum demo, bioshock demo etc. in also.

Just ran the quake 4 demo,all high settings 2xaa and got 50+fps constant

 

Anyone got suggestions for improving battery time on this?

 

re5 1280x720 everything high dx 10 13.7 dx9 15.4

 

I just did a CS:S benchmark at Native Resolution 1366x768, everything on High... 100.7 FPS with my 4330 enabled. Shouldn't have a problem running any source games on this bad boy!

So far, I love the keyboard.

I find the trackpad to be very so-so. It is too grippy and the two-finger scroll doesn't always work. Sometimes I'll go to scroll up and it doesn't register that I have two fingers down, and it'll shoot my mouse across the screen instead. It's kinda frustrating.

Also, I noticed that the bottom of the laptop heated up pretty quickly and hasn't cooled down. I don't think I could have this on my laptop for extended periods of time even idling... But it is charging the battery right now, and laptops always heat up whenever the battery is charging, so maybe that's an issue. I will post later what I find.

 

Thanks for the HD viewing....hopefully the HD 3200 HD viewing experience won't be too far off from the ATI 4330...

So is it pretty safe to say the laptop is pretty quiet with HD 3200 IGP and slightly louder due to the heat from a dedicated card?

 

aggregate arithmetic performance 9.65gflops
dhrystone alu 10.76gips
whetstone isse3 8.55 gflops

multi media
aggregate multi media 16mpixels
int x16 a sse2 18.85mpixels
float x8 isse2 13mpixels
double x4 isse2 7mpixels

 

The GPU doesn't make any difference. The reason that it works better when you switch to high performance mode is because it also ramps up the processor at the same time.

Currently, Flash doesn't take advantage of the GPU. It will soon. So Hulu HD won't be a problem for any dm3 model soon.

I tried playing Hulu HD, and it was "watchable" if you don't mind some stuttering. Again, this will improve when flash is updated.

 

Thanks much....any word on heat and noise..?? I love the 4 GB Office depot but the return exchange policy just sucks...so im looking at this and wonder about heat and noise

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Pa...23847359&skuId=9556358#tabbed-customerreviews

 

ok i was reading components

for combined results i got
GIPS - 11.88
GFLOPS - 8.78

agregate multimedia- 24.77
int x16 - 29
float x8 - 20.5
double x4 - 10.38

apparently arithmetic they are pretty close but multimedia far apart

 

Cant agree more with you My TV aint all that bad either.. its a 50" Samsung plasma which produces really nice colors. With my previous dell XPS m1330 it use to show better colors than the original colors on laptop. But in this case, the TV's brightness is very low compared to the brightness on the lappi.

Can you help me how to access the brightness contrast settings on ATI control panel. (may be I am asking a super dumb question) I couldn't find the ATI control panel.