*HP dm3 (1XXX series) Owners Lounge*

Ok, skinstylers have arrived, who would like the other one? kushty expressed interest in 1, so I have 1 extra. They're clear.

 

save yourself the $70, or invest it towards an SSD.

 

There is virtually no performance difference between the L335 and L625

 

guys if you could run PCmark05 and run 3Dmark06 I will be creating a table that shows performance of the different ULV configurations that are available....

most dont have accurate or any benchmark results in any review....

 

Not true. On the athlon line having double the cache normaly meant having a higher rating number.

On most things the l625 will perform better. The problem at this point in time is that these chips are so weak compared to todays programs and games the diffrence isn't as big as it once was.

 

Can you do me a favour and run the passmark test below and tell me what score you get for cpu.

I dont think the difference will very large between the L335 and L625

Thanks.

http://www.passmark.com/download/pt_download.htm

 

I'm confused. Is the 4330 an add-on card added by HP? because one guy said he had the 3200 but could enable the 4330... and is this the point of the extra PCI-Ex slot by the hard drive?

 

The slot by the hdd is a mini-pci-e an dedicated graphics card needs an mxm slot.

 

does it have an MXM slot? it would make sense that they would come universal so all would have them

 

in what areas does it get warm?

the bottom left or the the top right?

is the surface hot or is it the bottom of the laptop?

can you give temperatures after gaming for example, when notebooks heat up?


thanks!

 

First Impressions:
Looks: I love the brushed metal, it makes the laptop look expensive and a BIG PLUS for not being a fingerprint magnet.
Build: The build quality on this thing is excellent, very sturdy and well thought out.
Keyboard: I’ve never used a keyboard with isolated style keys before and it’s pretty good in terms of space and noise … also has ZERO FLEX.
Touchpad: The touchpad is okay, this is coming from experience with the HP dv2000t and HP dv4t, it’s similar to the dv4t in that it’s glossy and drags, but after a while you get used to it, in my opinion they should have gone with the touchpad similar to the HP tx1000. The buttons however are a little stiff but is not a big deal as with all others that will loosen over time.
Heat: Manages heat VERY WELL … at least in my opinion, it’s barely warm under light use … and that area would be under the left palm rest.
General Use: Websurfing, YouTube videos(low quality), MS Word, and Chatting on AIM
ACPI: 45
Core #1: 41
Core #2: 42
GPU: 50
HDD: 33
Performance: Having the C2D makes everything run smoothly, I haven’t tried anything to intense though.
Video: Hulu HD – Legend of the Seeker Full Screen (runs smoothly, no hiccups).
TDK Trailer 1080p - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ5U8suTUw0 also runs smoothly.

So far I love this laptop  … no major complaints here.

 

are those temps in celcius?

and you're saying you got the SP9300 with the nvidia card?

is it possible for you to give some temperature readings on outside of the laptop (surface temps like in the notebookreview reviews?)

 

Sorry I'm kinda new to this but ...

1. Yes using HWMonitor
2. Yes
3. No

C2D SP9300 w/ 105

 

Touchpad Tips:

I thought the touchpad was okay but for those who can't stand the touchpad drag ... I used some of my leftover iPhone antiglare screen protector to solve the problem. Now it works awesome, and my touchpad now matches the outertrim of the laptop .

 

over all is 940.5 for the cpu.

Interger is 128
floating point math 534.4
find prime numbers 161.6
sse 4.66
compression 1030.0
encryption 4.86
physics 52.4
string sorting 713.0


The main advantage will be in tests in which it needs to fetch alot of data outside its caches. Btw this is on battery power. i will test and see if results change when i get home tonight

 

I got a cpu score of 958.9 on battery and 964.5 on mains power , quite a bit better than the 842 that is on the passmark score for the T335.

 

metal spike can you run PCmark05, Passmark and or 3Dmark05?

and post benchmarks?

 

i just got my dm3 the amd neo x2 from best buy today and i must say, coming from a dell d600. this thing blows my old notebook out of the water.I got a few questions, does this notebook run only in single channel? i checked cpuz, and its shows its running only in single channel. maybe because it has 2 different memory size sticks(this one came with a 2gb+1gb sticks)? anybody figured out yet if a mini pci ssd fits in the mini slot?

 

That mini pcie should work with a tv tuner, gps or wwan

not sure about SSD

 

over i got 986.8 for the cpu.

Interger 149.2
floating point math 563.9
find prime numbers 168.4
sse 4.89
compression 1083.5
encryption 5.1
physics 51.7
string sorting 681.6

i did it with the cord connected, i have the l335 btw.

 

And you want to know something funny ?

Its because of your 4 gigs of ram that you get better cpu score.

You have dual channel ram giving you twice the bandwidth. I have single channel because of the 3 gigs I have.

If you don't believe me take out a stick and do the test again

 

Hmm... Wouldn't u need some sort of antenna for the gps and tv tuner? I'm not sure if you could just plug those into the mini pci-e slot and expect it to work. Though that would be wicked!

 

l335, 4gigs ram



the best part was the d3d10 test, LOL 0.76 frames a second.

 

So after 2.5 weeks with the dm3z, I get the following problems, some that others have mentioned, some they have not:

1. Sometimes mouse freezes on wakeup from sleep.
2. Speakers/Headphones crackle playing MP3s from WMP/iTunes/HP Media Center.
3. Sometimes I press F3 to put the machine to sleep and it just keeps waking back up.

If others are getting these problems as well please let us know. I'm contemplating sending mine back b/c flawless MP3 playback is a must.

Battery life:
3-4 hours, never longer, and that is undervolted with 30-40% brightness - mostly websurfing over WiFi, some Youtube, iTunes or WMP or Pandora playing in the background. Seems like it drops quickly from 100%-60%, then stays 60-30% for the longest, then drops quickly after that to 10%.

My specs:
AMD Neo L625
Integrated 3200HD GPU
3GB RAM
250GB HD

I've undervolted from the standard 0.975V to 0.8-0.85V for 4x (.8GHz) to 8x (1.6GHz) clock multipliers. I don't know how anyone gets 4hrs on the standard CPU voltage.

 

what are u undervolting with ?

 

yeah you would need an antenna for TV and GPS but it is doable... and GPS might not need an antenna.... TV definately does, most of the time the antenna for TV is in the back of the screen casing...


but the card should work regaurdless

 

Thanks!

I'm no expert in modding laptops (connecting the antenna etc), so if any one here has any experience using that mini pci-e slot, do share! I'm inclined towards getting a WWAN/GPS card if it is feasible.

 

I'm using RightMark CPU Clock Utility: http://cpu.rightmark.org/

I'm only using the 4x, 4.5x, 6x, and 8x multipliers right now. I've been stable for a while now w/ 0.8-0.850V, but have crashed the machine a number of times when going below 0.750V. How low-you-can-go is going to be unique to each CPU though, so some will easily go lower and others will have problems at these voltages. A co-worker with a dv2z (single core, same K8 revG CPU) is down at 0.6875V at the 4x multiplier.

 

i did one in my Asus eeepc last year.... took the LCD frame apart and put the wwan antenna in the LCD frame.

Sprint has a wwan card that have AGPS also.... you might find one on ebay

 

I just run the passmark test again this time with rmclock disabled and use HP recommended power scheme and i got 976.3 cpu score.

 

Thanks. I suppose it would be easier to get the dm3 with the HP mobile broadband option.
Unfortuantely, this wasn't an option here in Singapore.

Could dm3 owners that purchased it with the HP mobile broadband option check if the mini pci-e slot is taken by the WWAN/GPS card?

 

Can anybody with a AMD system have a look at the memory frequency , it appears to be dynamic , but the max seems to be 319.2mhz x 2 = 638.4mhz , but should it not be running at 800mhz ?????

EDIT : Sandra lite gives my the same memory frequency.

 

the was talked about awhile back. it doesnt run at 800

 

Can anybody shed light on why the memory not running at 800mhz. ??????

Thanks.

 

My best guess is that it is directly attached to the CPU Frequency so that when your cpu drops to 4x it would also split in half saving you battery. Hp prolly wanted to give you the most battery life by putting the low end at 166(333) but that also puts the high end at only ~333(667). Then again thats just a guess. The memory is capable of running 800 according to CPU-z and I would like to see it at 800 because that would speed up the HD 3200 as well.

 

When i run memtest86+ it says the memory is running at 800mhz but it could be wrong.

Also most notebook when you press esc on boot it shows your boot detail and normally shows your memory speed, but hp uses esc to boot into the bios, unlike most other that use f2 or delete.

 

the default timings, which as of now, we are not able to switch in the bios, is for 5-5-5-15; to have 400mhz we need 6-6-6-18 timings (on my hyundai ram at least). you can see what the timings/frequencies/voltages needed are in the "SPD" section of CPU-Z. What brand of ram did other people get?


It's rather silly of them to overlook this setting, since it doesn't even require a voltage increase to get the optimal matching bus-speed. I emailed them about it, hopefully sometime, they release a bios-update that allows us a bit more configuration. Fan speed/temperature control would be nice too.

 

Mine came with Elpida Memory

Manufacturer (ID) Elpida (7F7FFE0000000000)
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number EBE21UE8AFSA-8G-F

JEDEC #1 4.0-4-4-12-16 @ 266 MHz
JEDEC #2 5.0-5-5-15-20 @ 333 MHz
JEDEC #3 6.0-6-6-18-24 @ 400 MHz

 

My L625 and 4330 with flash 10.1 still stutters on 1080p youtube

Will I save more battery if I use my HD 3200 all the time unless I'm gaming. At the minute my 4330 turns on when I plug the laptop in and that's pretty pointless if it takes more battery as it doesn't benefit anything but gaming?!

 

You also need the new 9.11 drivers from ati. The catch ? I don't know anyone who can get them to run on the 4330 only on the hd 3200.

I doubt it . The hd 3200 has its own 256 megs of ram built .

 

I'd love to see a passmark score (CPU especially, but all of it is interesting) for the DM3 with SU4100 and SU7300...

Why havn't you guys put up some scores? Those of us with the AMD's have posted several.

Please share a set of scores with us,
Thanks

 

No, it has 128mb of "turbocache" or something of the sort and then sucks 256mb off of system ram. check out ur SYSTEM and you will see 4gb (3.75 available) and also in graphics props u'll see 384 available for the GPU.

Has anyone made any progress with a BIOS mod.. I cannot figure out how to mod an INSYDE bios.... grr. it would be simple if it was a phoenix bios. and does the 3200 have its own GPU bios

 

For those who have wondered about Hulu playback. Using Chrome I can't get good regular or hi-def fullscreen viewing on Hulu.com, but when I use the Hulu desktop app I can watch hi-def fullscreen easily. Don't know why there's such a huge diff, maybe it has something to do with the Flash 10.1 GPU acceleration when inside a browser vs. an installed app?

Specs:
AMD L625
3200
3GB

 

good tip

i would not have thought about using the desktop app on my notebook

 

Yea, I got them and it wouldn't recognize my card. Bit of a ridiculous situation but hopefully when it's sorted I will be able to stream 1080p.

 

Its sideport memory built into the board. DDR2 with a narrow buswidth=slow but at least its not as parasitic to the system RAM. Weather it really helps or not is debatable but I guess it doesn't hurt.

 

happy thanksgiving all, at least all who care. Just thought I'd drop a note about undervolting tests with RMclock. I seem stable right now at .7125 for the low, and .825 for the high. I'm a bit scared to try .8V for the high end. Running 1600 Mhz at the stock 800Mhz setting seems a bit too expectant, but dang, wouldn't it be nice? I'd be getting the same battery life but full cpu power.

Gonna stress test it the rest of the day. My fan starts blowing at odd times though. Once I'm stable, I'll compare battery life.

 

Can you post all your voltages once you have them stable, i have the L335 and it re-boots when idle but is fine at 100%???

 

WTH
Battery Pro said I had 2.2% battery wear yesterday, but today it is saying 9.8%?? I've only had this thing for about 2 weeks, at this rate it won't last 6 months!

 

Hi madhatter979 (and pasta4u and others interested)

I'm running the L335 with 4GB RAM, by default the CPU runs at 0.95V at 8x and 0.8V at 4x. Using RMClock while on battery I've locked the multiplier at 4x and undervolted to 0.7V stable.

The last time I used it from a full charge with the HD4330 enabled I managed:
- 2 hours of video at 80% brightness (Xvid, ~640x352 res) AND
- just under 2 hours reading an ebook at around 40-50% brightness

So just under 4 hours all up, with more than half of it watching video at 80% brightness, and at the end of it all I had about 17% battery remaining. Not too shabby considering I had battery life left at the end of it, being undervolted to 0.7V makes a big difference.

In my last video only test, looping an Xvid at ~640x352 res with the same settings as above, I managed 3h 25m. If I can squeeze enough power saving to get 4 hours of continuous video playback I'll be pleased. My main use for the laptop is watching video, so my next plan is to test pasta4u's idea of playing off an SD card rather than the HDD. (note: I have no interest in watching video at less than 80% brightness, which would be an obvious power saving)

Cheers