*HP dm3 (1XXX series) Owners Lounge*

I did, but I don't think anyone has got theirs yet, and they don't sell them retail in that config. Mine doesn't even ship until 11/3..

 

Need a new laptop, since my HP Pavilion tx1000us self destructed, swore I would never get an HP again, but been on the fence between this and the Asus ul30, recently unemployed, so my funds are tight. Been reading this forum this whole week, but not an expert as some of you guys are. I want/need the laptop for basic PhotoShop and watchin HD web video, is this build okay:

AMD Turion(TM) Neo X2 Dual-Core L625 Processor (1.6GHz, 1MB) with ATI Radeon(TM) HD 3200 Graphics ... 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) ... 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive

If not what would you suggest, without upping the build too much.
Thanks alot guys!

 

If you live in the US, just pick it up from a retail store if you are going the amd/ ati 3200 opiton. You will get a larger 7200rpm hdd for a cheaper price

 

but i can wait for that

i recently bought a tx2z but immediatly sold it again, as i didnt really like it, too 'plasticky' and build quality seemed like a KIA. I got a hands on a my local bestbuy with the dm3 and i like the build quality on that one a lot better, seems a lot more sturdy and stable. also it's lighter, which is a big plus!

 

Same Processor and Ram? If so, then I'm sold. Live in NYC, so should be easy to get.

 

Check Office Depot brick & mortar, or Office Max, Walmart, or Sears (online only). Newegg and Amazon also carry the DM3-1030us I believe...

 

Not exactly the same build, you would have to settle for the lower processor with 512mb cashe, so far the only models that are on shelves have the L335, however the price is like 550 + tax from your local bestbuy or somewhere in the same ballpark at a office depot

 

Yeah, the retail version has a slightly worse processor, but honestly for the price i think the one sold in stores is a better value.

 

I'm willing to spend the $700 for the:
AMD Turion(TM) Neo X2 Dual-Core L625 Processor (1.6GHz, 1MB) with ATI Radeon(TM) HD 3200 Graphics ... 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) ... 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive

...as long it'll run PhotoShop and play HD online vids without a hiccup.

 

It'll play Youtube HD, but not Hulu HD. Photoshop shouldn't be a problem though...

 

Yea, I have the store retail. I installed Photoshop CS4 on it and it loaded up pretty quick and it runs well (at least it looks a lot better than the youtube videos I seen of netbooks running CS3). Be sure to update your ATi drivers since CS4 can use your GPU.

 

How's Vimeo's HD on the dm3z?

 

For $660 I was able to get the radeon 4330 + the faster cpu with 3 gigs of ram and a 250gig hardrive. True its not the faster hardrive, but you can upgrade the ram and hardrive wheenver you want. You can't upgrade the cpu and gpu

This gets you %5 off your bill till the 27th , u also get free shipping SVX4305

 

I just ordered mine also, SP9300 and G105M, 4gb ram... Build date shows 11/3.

 

people who orderedon the 18th (release date) have build date at the 28th so noone should have until hopefully atleast the end of next week.

Also, anyone fretting about playing hd video, that will be a non existent problem by the end of the month. Flash 10.1 will be out enabling full gpu acceleration for flash, allowing like everything to play hd flash.

So if flash is the most stressful thing your worried doing go for the cheaper build.

 

I think I noticed an error in the original post, although I could be mistaken.

The HP dm3-1030us from OD does have bluetooth on it. I bought one on Thurs and can verify it comes with bluetooth installed.

Sorry to be nitpickey, but I though it was worth mentioning.

 

I had noticed that someone mentioned it had BT, but forgot to update the post, it's been corrected.

 

I know the difference between the Athlon NEO X2 and the Turion NEO X2 is the 512KB versus the 1MB cache on the chip. How does this effect CPU performance? Will I notice a difference? I am trying to decide if it is worth the $50 extra. Has anyone done CPU benchmarks between the two? Thanks

Teddy

 

We don't know how much it will affect performance yet since none of us wiht the L665 processor have gotten our orders from HP yet. Someone could probably dig up some research on the dv2 model since it had both of those processors available for it.

 

I am sorry to say this, but having seen the battery life on the OD model (1030us), I am concerned that the SP9300/105M combination is going to be a battery killer... I am struggling to get 4 hours of usable life out of the AMD version, and the Intel/discrete graphics models will eat up more battery. May have to cancel my custom order and hold out for an ASUS UL30VT...

 

Estimated shipping date for mine is the 28th, as you mention, and I had 2 day shipping selected.

If I'm lucky, it'll ship out early enough on Wednesday, and I'll have it Friday.

 

ubercool, since you seem to be maintaining the consolidated info at the beginning of the thread, check here for access to detailed specs for all retail models:
http://h20180.www2.hp.com/apps/Lookup?h_lang=en&h_cc=us&cc=us&h_page=hpcom&lang=en&h_client=S-A-R163-1&h_pagetype=s-001&h_query=pavilion+dm3

Click on the model, then click "Product Information", then "Product Specifications" and on next page, "Product Specifications" again.
US Retail Models are:
DM3-1030US
DM3-1035DX (Best Buy)
DM3-1039WM (WalMart)
DM3-1040US
DM3-1047CL (Sam's Club)

 

stuggling for battery life? i thought this model had long battery life as one of the features?

looks like ill have to shop around for other laptops and compare.

 

Don't get me wrong, the DM3-1030 was a stellar buy at $499+tax after rebate/Bing cashback, but it won't meet my needs for a thin and light. The wife loves it, though.
I am trying to get decent performance from CPU/GPU, including the ability to run 1080p video both on the integrated display as well as on 40"+ LCDs and heavy multitasking in IE/Office. Need to get 5+ hours of real, actual battery life while using wireless and running multiple programs. Just don't see any DM3 models doing this unless I carry 2 batteries (which I thought I was ok with, but I have decided I am not).

 

Anyone know what the ACPI TZ01 is under CPUID Hardware Monitor? It seems to be the hottest component. I put this thing under stress from transferring files and this is what came out:

TZ01: 66C (150F)
Core 0: 49C (120F)
Core 1: 46C (115F)
HDD: 42C (107F)

 

I would sit tight with the SP9300/105M combo. The Intel chips, IMO, are just superior.

Don't forget the the 5103m or whatever it is with the SP9300/4500MHD and a 4-cell battery got like 5 hours or something.. can't remember exactly the figure go back and look for it in the thread, but if you extrapolate that figure with a 6-Cell, it got something like 8.5 hours of battery life with continuous WiFi usage @ 70% brightness or whatever. I doubt the 105M is going to make that huge of a difference....couple hours? That's still 6.5.... call it 3.5 hours man, that's still 5 bloody hours with a beast of a cpu/gpu.

I wouldn't let the low AMD numbers affect your Intel expectations.... at least not yet.

I am almost certain it will give a solid 5 hours of use.... my only question is the amount of heat generated.

 

I agree Intel is superior, but even extrapolating out potential battery life based on relative specs (AMD max battery life per HP is 6 hrs, Intel SU7300/4500HD is 10 hrs), I don't believe I will see what I need to see.
The SP9300 will burn ~2-2.5x the battery that the SU7300 does at load. Add in the discrete video chipset, I am guessing 3 hours tops at load. As I stated a while ago, am really looking for 5+ hours of usage (not idling).

 

Um yea, but there are also 29 models listed on that page. Might be easier to just link to it and have visitors look up their own models.

 

...and I only want to pay $200 for it.

 

It seems that there's about a 50% time fudge factor, which is about the same as Sony and others. So, if the six-hour life is 4 hours in real life, then the 10-hour life will result in about 6.8 hours.

 

The SP9300 isn't going to be running at full-tilt the entire time. Keep in mind that the SU7300 is going to be running near it's max TDP due to it's lower clock speed. I mean, you really can't get much lower than 1300mhz. The SP9300 will keep down clocking itself from 2.26ghz.

Again, in that review of the 5310m, the SP9300 only lost like an hour or so of battery life off the 9:08 mark of the SU7300/4500MHD combo if it had been using a 6-cell battery.

Which is why I say, at worst, have the CPU and GPU account for 2 hours of lost time each, that still pegs at 5 hours.

I guess in a week or so we'll see who's right. Let's hope I am.

 

Do you mean that simple browsing will not produce heat?

I am curious to know if there are any applications/software to force cpu (or even GPU) get down to lower clocking (underclocking cpu/gpu). That way it would keep cold and sip energy until full power is needed (then user can switch back to native profile). That would be great particularly on the intel with sp9300/G105n that would solve all the dilemma btween to0 weak perf (with good battery life) and too powerfull (with short battery life)...

 

No, actually, my real concern is the heat, more-so from the 105M than the SP9300. Having had two laptops die on me to to Nvidia GPUs, I'm a bit paranoid about them.

Ya, right through Vista/7. If you put it on Power-Saver mode, the max clock would be 50% of 2.26ghz. You can change it as you see fit. Balanced has it's minimum of 5% and maximum of 100%, Power Saver is at 5%/50%, and Performance mode is at 100/100%.

Again, you can alter these percentages....

 

have u used amd's overclocking software to find your sweet spot of voltage and clock speeds ? Cool and quiet is nice but you can really get agressive. For instance my buddy who has the dm3 frmo office depot has his cpus clocked at 900mhz with a low voltage and is getting about 5h 45 minutes running his . The cpu at those speeds play hulu and youtube videos fine and playback all the 1080p files he can through at it except for 1:1 bluray rips he has.

 

THe G105M had heating problems in the DV3, not sure if HP have done anything about the cooling on it.

Also, the SU7300 running at full tilt would still use less power than SP9300 with regular use.

 

Well, the speculation will end soon... my dm3t with the 7300 and g105m shipped out this morning

 

ya ditto, i'm hoping that means i we will have it by wed. but who knows. I'm hoping to compare with some 4330 builds.

 

My dm3z with an L625 and 4330 shipped this morning as well - I'll get some long-awaited benchmarks up as soon as it arrives

 

My DM3 L335/3200 shipped this morning. Got the email around 6am

 

idk guys, at first this forum was optimistic about the dm3z, but not its seeming like its not going to live up to its hype, and its stunning looks. I really want to have a great looking machine, with nice (not great) specs, that wont burn itself dead, like my last hp, but the more I read reviews/forums, its like the asus ul30 is more of a winner, not quite the looker for a $700 machine.

 

You'll want to hold your breath on the dm3z. Wait until the L665 processors and ATI 4330 graphics are put to the test... regardless the UL30 is also an excellent machine, though it just doesn't have the strikingly amazing looks of the dm3z (though the UL30 doesn't look bad...). To me the winner seems to be either dm3z (if you can live with 5 or so hours of battery life...) or the UL80VT-A1 because of its 12 hours of battery + great performance..

 

I wouldn't really compare the dm3z to the asus UL30. The HP is designed for more decent performance with the HD 3200. The ASUS is meant for maximum battery life. The only thing they really have in common is the price range.

 

So you're saying the dm3z is a better performer than the ul30? I can live with 5 hours of moderate usage, if the dm3z will perform without hiccups, I just want to be able to use photoshop, and stream HD vids, without the machine bricking on me, like my HP pavilion tx1000 with a faulty nVidia GPU chip did after a year.

 

Better performance certainly in the GPU department. You'll have to wait until Fri/Sat when most people get their customized dm3z laptops for a definitive answer on CPU performance.

 

UL30 is probably going to play online HD videos better--but we don't know for sure until people get their dm3z's in the mail and test it with the faster AMD processor.

 

Woot! Just got an email from HP that my dm3t with SU7300, 4GB, and 3500MHD shipped.

 

Yep guys, mine shipped as well. Still nothing updated on FedEx, so it'll still be a bit. I hope it comes soon, I have a trip next week, I was planning on using it on my 5 hour flight I love internet on cross-country flights.

 

It might play online videos better , it depends on the site. Soon it wont matter as much because flash will be accelerated on both ati and nvidia cards. Silverlight is accelerated already on both.

Also amd has beta drivers for open cl support on the 4330 chip. So alot more products will get accelerated from online videos to video editing to photoshop.

 

Is it just me or did any of you guys face this problem?

I am getting irritated with my dm3's touchpad. Well, I have to admit that I have never used the multitouch touchpad. I only use just one of my finger while using this touchpad. However many times, I feel my finger just doesn't flow smoothly on this touch pad. Many times my finger movements are producing results that I dont expect or dont want. For example, simple movements some times zooms out the window. Sometimes it closes the window when I did not intend to.. I am almost fighting to control the movement of cursor with this touchpad. I did remove the plastic covering on it. My fingers many time tends to stick to the pad or move with much difficulty. Is there something I am missing?

 

Others have said they disabled the multitouch gestures. That's what I plan to do. Unless you really need it, I don't think it helps but only hurts the use of the touchpad in general. Other touchpads like Apple's, works well. The HP one on the other hand, I don't think it works as well, so I recommend disabling multitouch.