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    *HP dv6t & dv7t (70XX / 71XX series) IVY BRIDGE Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by justinkw1, Apr 30, 2012.

  1. garreto

    garreto Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks! Puts my mind at ease on my decision.
     
  2. laptop_newbie87

    laptop_newbie87 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I typically buy a new laptop in five year. That's the reason why I tend to upgrade as much as I can. Perhaps 2GB is not for now but if you want to keep to run in a few more years, it is worth money. Some people, like me, don't want to have mSSD because eventually SSD will be cheaper and nobody cares about mSSD anymore. Again, my philosophy is to buy for future investment. It might not work for everyone though.
     
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    I guess 1333 since they give free discount for 8GB. Might be wrong.
     
  4. smc33

    smc33 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Do you guys think the new envy will be a drastic improvement over this dv6 with 1080p, 650m, 750 gb 7200rpm, and 32mssd? Hoping the dv6 is a little thinner in person then it looks on video
     
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    It should be. It's suppose to be their top of the line notebook. If they fix the red issue I'll get one. If not I'll get a dv6 7000.
     
  6. kitsune556

    kitsune556 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I just spent an hour on HP chat trying to find out the speed of the RAM in these laptops. The rep first told me it was 1066, then she told me it was 1333. She couldn't provide me with any hard documentation on what speed it actually is. If anyone who receives it soon could find out specifically what it comes with and post it here, I would be eternally grateful.
     
  7. Ice H4wk

    Ice H4wk Notebook Consultant

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    I had had the same basic idea going, want it to last about 4 years (key word: want). My laptop will also be used for engineering, so i thought of having the extra vram just in case for additional screens and such. Also for personal use i like the idea of connecting a tv to my laptop, and i personally don't care fore the few seconds of bout time difference that the mSSD would give you, so i just said, what the hell, ill just get the vram.

    In the end, Its probably a silly thing to do, but the extra $50 doesn't add much in the end.
     
  8. SHASHANK_BEST

    SHASHANK_BEST Notebook Evangelist

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    How can we chat with HP reps .? I tried, but there is only a technical chat which asks for product serial no. & product id ...
     
  9. crzypainter

    crzypainter Notebook Guru

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    I just opted for both. Of course, now I'm crazy in debt. It will be interesting to see if I can switch out the ram with 12 gig, the HP site said the mSSD wasn't compatible with anything over 8 gig. I don't see why that would be, I'm going to try to put two 6 gig sticks in when I get it. I do lots of video editing on multiple screens, so the extra boost will be worth it in the long run.
     
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    SHASHANK_BEST Notebook Evangelist

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    Can you please check and tell whether Nvidia Optimus is supported in the Dv6 .?
    Plz reply ...
     
  11. crzypainter

    crzypainter Notebook Guru

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    As far as the envy line goes, my guess is that the build quality will be better and the wireless card may be a bit better, (a/b/g/n) but other than that there shouldn't be any major hardware/performance differences. Am I wrong?
     
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    crzypainter Notebook Guru

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    Haven't seen anything for Optimus in the documentation so I'm going to guess no.
     
  13. SHASHANK_BEST

    SHASHANK_BEST Notebook Evangelist

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    Will 2GB vRam have any advantage in gaming at 1080p (on the laptop screen itself ) as compared to 1GB vRam .?

    I'm confused to choose between 1GB & 2GB vRam ...
    I may also connect to an external 1080p monitor occasionally for gaming . Plz suggest .
     
  14. FatalGeek

    FatalGeek Newbie

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    Just got on my way to the Ivy Bridge.

    * Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
    * NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
    * FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    * 750GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    * 32GB mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
    * Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
    * No additional security software
    * 9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    * 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
    * FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
    * HP TrueVision HD Webcam
    * Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
    * Backlit Keyboard
    * HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    Even though this is probably not the first build like this, talk to me about it and stuff. Cool.
     
  15. smc33

    smc33 Notebook Enthusiast

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    If the envy gets out into the wild within my 21 days and I fall in love with it much more then my new dv6 (mainly build quality, looks, and features)... Sorry bout it HP! I'll be switching.
     
  16. laptop_newbie87

    laptop_newbie87 Notebook Enthusiast

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    If the Ram speed is 1333, I will not surprise. As long as HP keep free update to 8GB, I am sure that they are trying to clean up their inventory before Ram can be upgradable to 1600.
     
  17. justinkw1

    justinkw1 Notebook Virtuoso

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    There is no such thing as a 6 GB DDR3 memory stick. You can, however, have one 8 GB stick and one 4 GB stick to make 12 GB total.
     
  18. crzypainter

    crzypainter Notebook Guru

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    Is that how they achieve a 12 GB configuration on these models? It's odd because HP doesn't sell any ram over 4 GB in their accessories section of the website. I guess I would have to go third party to upgrade the ram. Would there be compatibility issues? And isn't ram supposed to be installed in equal amounts?I had understood that it want a good idea to have mismatched sticks. Maybe I'm wrong.
     
  19. battouter

    battouter Notebook Guru

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    when will the IB dual cores be available on these? i also don't see a steel gray option.
     
  20. LordBass

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    Reports are dual core will arrive in June.
     
  21. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm curious about the weight of the dv7t. The image says 7.99lbs.

    But then if you click on it and select 'specs' you get:

    6.94 lb with 6-cell

    7.99 seems quite high for a 17" with a mid-range GPU - doesn't seem like they'd need huge heat sink assemblies or fans. Guess we'll find out soon!
     
  22. bazbob

    bazbob Newbie

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    Looks very similar to mine. • • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    • • 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
    • • NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
    • • FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • • 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    • • 32GB mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
    • • Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
    • • No additional security software
    • • One 6 Cell and One 9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    • • 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
    • • FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
    • • HP TrueVision HD Webcam
    • • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
    • • Backlit Keyboard
    • • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
     
  23. DirtyBob

    DirtyBob Notebook Guru

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    Mine is only different in that I ordered a faster CPU, less Vid mem, and 6 cell battery. I might regret not ordering the extra vid mem, but I won't regret the faster CPU(3720QM). :D

    PS. ...and no bluetooth.
     
  24. DirtyBob

    DirtyBob Notebook Guru

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    It's hard to say. Sometimes 4GB is almost the same price as 2GB depending on the source, manufacturer, type, and speed of memory. And it could change at any time. The last laptop I ordered directly from HP had a different brand of memory than other laptops ordered about the same time.

    It could also just be a marketing thing. Obviously, they didn't need to ever list 6GB as an option if no one really declines the extra 2GB. "Free" is a stretch of the term. Marketing.....hmph.
     
  25. basharg

    basharg Notebook Guru

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    Btw these new dv6/dv7 will come with nvidia optimus support : )
     
  26. SHASHANK_BEST

    SHASHANK_BEST Notebook Evangelist

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    How can you be so sure about it .? :confused:
     
  27. kitsune556

    kitsune556 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I talked to an HP Sales Rep in chat. You don't need an S/N or Product ID for that. However, it will test your patience, so be prepared.
     
  28. SHASHANK_BEST

    SHASHANK_BEST Notebook Evangelist

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    You won't regret not ordering the extra vis ram , trust me .
    It's a waste of money and of no use for 650M ..!
     
  29. basharg

    basharg Notebook Guru

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    Here:
    Google Translate
    directly from google translate :
    "Finally, note that Optimus technology to equip this laptop that would work on default on the Intel 4000 HD integrated into the processor and the GeForce GT 630M graphics power only when a higher is required, in order to provide the highest autonomy possible."

    And here they do a test on the hd 4000 and the 650m:
    Google Translate

    The intel driver (for the HD4000) was also found on hp website:
    ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp56001-56500/sp56157.cva
     
  30. kimterran

    kimterran Notebook Guru

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    So rather than upgrading the video card to 2GB its better to get the 32GB HD acceleration cache and the 7200 rpm for the HD right? Is it worth it getting the 7200rpm for an extra $20?

    This is what I'm planning on getting. Any advice on what or what not to upgrade?

    * Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
    * NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 1GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
    * FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    * 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    * 32GB mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
    * Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
    * No additional security software
    * 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - Up to 6.0 hours of battery life +++
    * 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
    * FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
    * HP TrueVision HD Webcam
    * 802.11b/g/n WLAN
    * Backlit Keyboard
     
  31. SHASHANK_BEST

    SHASHANK_BEST Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm really concerned about the availability of Optimus on the dv6 . Live chat rep says it is not there and will only be there on laptops that have 2 graphic cards (lol) .

    Could someone who has received the laptop clarify .?
     
  32. SHASHANK_BEST

    SHASHANK_BEST Notebook Evangelist

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    I guess then it would support optimus then . Why haven't they mentioned it in the specs then .?
     
  33. smc33

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    Anyone actually have one yet? Can you take some HQ pics or video?
     
  34. SHASHANK_BEST

    SHASHANK_BEST Notebook Evangelist

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    BTW how do we get the drivers for the customized models .? Do customized models also have a model no. for which the drivers can be downloaded from the drivers page on hp.com or what .?
     
  35. basharg

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    Dunno really :S
     
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    SHASHANK_BEST Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm confused what to go for 1TB HDD over 750 GB ( 5400rpm ) or choose 2GB vRAM for GT650 M against 1 GB . Can choose only either one of them ..!

    Plz advice ...
     
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    Did you not post this?

    Answered your own question yes?
     
  38. kitsune556

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    A 1 TB 5400 RPM drive will be slower than a 750 5400 RPM drive... If HDD speed is a concern for you, look into getting an aftermarket SSD (don't order the laptop with it, it's a total rip off).
     
  39. SHASHANK_BEST

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    Yes thats what i read ...
    Could someone please suggest me for sure what to go for .?
     
  40. xAnimal

    xAnimal Notebook Guru

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    What this guy said ^^

    The "best" SSD will always be cheaper than the "HP SSD".
    I picked up 16GB of RAM for $80
    I picked up a 180GB Corsair Force GT SSD (One of the fastest SSD's) for $160.

    My DV6 with my upgrades:
    Has anyone's order actually started being built yet? I ordered literally 6 hours after it was available and mine has been at "Order Dropped Off at Factory" Status for 2 days now.
     
  41. kitsune556

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    What clock speed is the RAM you bought & where did you buy it?
     
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    Mine says the same thing and I ordered 24 hours ago. My estimated ship date is May 15th :(.

    On Monday when I was still looking it said May 8th.
     
  43. DirtyBob

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    Online Order 04/30/2012, 02:24:21 PDT

    Estimated ship date: May 9, 2012

    Estimated ship date:
    Your customized HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC will be built by May 9, 2012

    Status:
    Order dropped to factory
    (Estimated to ship on May 9, 2012)
     
  44. DirtyBob

    DirtyBob Notebook Guru

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    Why would a 1TB 5400 RPM drive be slower than a 750GB 5400 RPM drive?
     
  45. kitsune556

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    Larger hdd's are slower because the system has to index more available space. Also, there is more variance in read speed, meaning that the drive has to cycle up and down more often, generating more heat. The effect is not terribly significant, but can be seen in everyday use.
     
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    Can anyone summarize how many Ram and HDD slots has each model?
    Also on the website it says that optical drive is external, is this correct?
     
  47. xAnimal

    xAnimal Notebook Guru

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    The Optical Drive is NOT external, it is internal.
    It has 2 RAM slots and the Ivy Bridge supports up to 1866mhz
    I believe that this new Ivy refresh has 2 HDD Bays now, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  48. rorkas

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    It's a little confusing. Judging by the configuration options for 15.6" it seems like it has only one HDD bay, while 17.3" has two. I really hoped for the external drive option - it would free one HDD slot and can be used on other computers as well.
    I'd really like to hear opinion on this laptop from someone who'd get it in the next couple of days.
     
  49. xAnimal

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    Judging by HP's track record, the people who got 2 day shipping and ordered monday should get it around the the 9th-12th.

    If you wanna get a second HDD in there, remove the optical drive yourself. It's not too tricky, as long as you've got an adapter that fits.
     
  50. DirtyBob

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    Actually, larger drives may be encoded more densely. If there are the same number of tracks/surfaces, this may allow more data to be transferred from a single track, increasing the speed. Performing the same operations on the disk with a more dense encoding could actually decrease disk access by reading more data at a time.

    If there are more tracks on the same number of surfaces, the track to track distance would be shorter. Average track to track would, in theory, be similar if more data were on the disk than would fit on the smaller drive and the data were dispersed. It shouldn't be any slower.

    Partition the drive so that the top 256GB contains seldom used data. Everything else should run at least as fast if not faster(everything else being equal).
     
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