Okay I placed an order for my DV6t fully loaded WITHOUT the mSSD option.
I have a brand new Crucial M4 256mb SSD ready to be installed once it arrives.
So the mSSD option would be a complete waste for me right guys?
Any advantage of having the 32gb mSSD option ALONG with a dedicated SSD main drive?
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I heard the Crucial M4's are pretty reliable, you can't go wrong buying an M4, a Force GT, or a Sandisk Extreme SSD.
By the way guys:
Order in production
(Estimated to ship on May 9, 2012)
Go HP Chinese Workforce. Go -
Order in production
(Estimated to ship on May 9, 2012)
My last HP laptop came from Shanghai and spent a little time in Seattle customs. I hope the right palms have been greased to speed up the government machine. -
I just hope it doesn't collect dust for 4 days in China again after missing the flight =/
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games will require it but the hardware will bottleneck b4 the memory does.... its pointless as been proven by many forumers
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Does anyone notice the configuration has changed that is why the date has changed?
Luckily I still had the old configuration I made yesterday when I added the one I made today in the cart. And it seems it's $15 less than yesterday. It seems the webcam name has changed and fingerprint reader has been removed. But now they include free 15 month norton antivirus. See below:
HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
A3F49AV
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - Up to 6.0 hours of battery life +++
3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 1GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
750GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
32GB mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
No additional security software
15.6-inch diagonal HD BrightView LED-backlit Display (1366x768)
Blu-ray writer & SuperMulti DVD burner
720p HD video streaming webcam supports Skype + FingerPrint Reader
Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
Backlit Keyboard
HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
Estimated ship date: May 11, 2012
Free standard shipping on this item
The HP Home & Home Office Store will accept returns or exchanges for this product up to 21 days after delivery
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Price: $1,399.99
Laptop instant rebate: –$250.00
Price after savings: $1,149.99
HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
A3F49AV
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 1GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
750GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
32GB mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
FREE Upgrade to Norton Internet Security(TM) 2012 - 15 Months Subscription (activation required)
6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - Up to 6.0 hours of battery life +++
15.6-inch diagonal HD BrightView LED-backlit Display (1366x768)
Blu-ray writer & SuperMulti DVD burner
HP TrueVision HD Webcam
Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
Backlit Keyboard
HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
Estimated ship date: May 16, 2012
Free standard shipping on this item
The HP Home & Home Office Store will accept returns or exchanges for this product up to 21 days after delivery
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Price: $1,384.99
Laptop instant rebate: –$250.00
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Ordered my dv6tqe an hour ago.
My config:
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
• NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
• FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• NO mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
• Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
• FREE Upgrade to Norton Internet Security(TM) 2012 - 15 Months Subscription (activation required)
• 9 cell Lithium Ion Battery
• 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
• FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
• HP TrueVision HD Webcam
• 802.11b/g/n WLAN
• Backlit Keyboard
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Yeah it seems they took $15 off for removing the fingerprint reader from the configuration and then added Norton 15 Month Subscription for free.
Also Graphics card upgrade to 650M 1GB was 25 and now is 50 and upgrade to 650M 2GB was 50 and now is 100.
Also Hard drive upgrade from 750GB 5400rpm to 7200rpm was $60, but now only $20.
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• 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - Up to 6.0 hours of battery life +++
• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
• NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
• FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• NO mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
• Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
• No additional security software
• 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
• FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
• 720p HD video streaming webcam supports Skype + FingerPrint Reader
• 802.11b/g/n WLAN
• Backlit Keyboard
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
Estimated ship date: May 9, 2012
I ordered Monday afternoon, and it's in production as of this morning.
I'm ordering it as a replacement/upgrade to an unworking dv6z that I had for all of a week.
I loath norton and find the fingerprint reader a really handy add on thingy. I'm glad I got my order in /before/ that change.
Also in reply to an earlier post of why choose the 2gb graphics vs 1gb- when I placed my order the gt650m was only available in the 2gb model.
I'm also unfamiliar with what a mSSD does (from the description it sounded like a second, smarter, hard drive) so I figured I'd shave off what money I could and save off on upgrading that until later.
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Does anyone think or know if they will be offering a high capacity 6 cell like they did on the previous design? Also is the form factor exactly the same that I could just use a high capacity 6 cell for the previous design on this one?
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I can't wait to get this thing, and actually be capable of playing currentish games, and running my editing software smoothly!
I actually ended up ordering this one by sheer chance, though. I wasn't even aware the Ivy bridge processors were coming out this early. I was mistakenly thinking they would be abound later in the summer compiled with windows 8.
I was on the phone arguing with HP support about how I did not wish to wait until the 18th for them to /start/ building a replacement for the broken dv6z when I finally got on the phone with a decent rep who understood what I was saying ('just charge me and start building a new laptop as if I'd bought it, and refund this one when you get it back'). After mentioning all I was doing with the laptop she mentioned that the new i7's were out. After spending about five seconds mentally wrestling with my paycheck, I decided I had to go for it. I'ts just so much power in one little box, and with the 400$ off, it so seems worth the price.
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Guy's im pretty darn sure the finger print reader wasn't removed for 3 reasons. One, its still on the overview page, and just says it has it in the specs. Bellow the customization specs. Two, it had great reviews and was well liked, in fact i think early models last year used it as a fairly big selling point. Three, they have pictures of the model and a video of it with the finger print reader, so the frame is already meant for it, and they would need to make you model frames (although not really a drastic change) to fill the hole where it goes lol. I think hp just ether forgot to say they put it in on the customized page, or they just don't advertise it, kinda like how they never really advertised the back-lit keyboard.
As for the webcam, that might have changed due to supple, but i still doubt it. Its probably the same one just named differently. And maybe they forgot about the Norton thing so they added it, which i don't care for, i hate Norton.
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Just because was written or has pictures on the site doesn't mean it is available or as standard on the product.
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A graphics card can't utilize large amounts of video memory if the processing cores are not fast enough to handle it. A mid range card such as the 650m will not benefit in any significant way from an extra GB of video memory because there is limited memory bandwidth and the cores are not clocked very high. Large amounts of video memory (2GB+) is useful in high end cards that have lots of memory bandwidth (256bit or more I'm guessing) and are able to game in very high settings at 1080p resolution or GREATER. The 650m has a 128bit bus and will not be able to play many games at 1080p. Perhaps older games or newer ones with the settings turned down low.
It's not a matter of "games don't use 2GB video memory but they will eventually," it's a matter of whether the rest of the components on the videocard can make use of it. The 650m, in my opinion, will see little to no benefit from the extra 1GB and it's simply a marketing gimmick to get you to spend more money. You can look at professional reviews of cards that offer 1GB and 2GB models (where the rest of the specs are the same) and the results are always similar. You don't see benefits until you reach really high resolution settings and since the 650m is mid range, you won't reach those high settings anyway making the extra memory a waste of money.
Secondly, whether or not the mSSD that HP offers is worth the money from a dollar per GB point of view is dependent on a few things. Comparing the $/GB ratio to cheap cards on the market is not a good comparison because of difference of throughput and more important if the memory is SLC or MLC. Also, form factor. The mSSD is likely a miniPCI-e card instead of a 2.5" drive format which are usually a little more expensive. Secondly, if HP is awesome and actually offers a nice SLC drive it will justify the extra cost. However, until people start getting their units in and can give us specifics on the model numbers of the mSSD cards, we won't know for sure. Finally, it's also an indirect comparison to compare a HDD + cache SSD with just a SSD drive because with the HDD + cache you are able to fit a lot of storage space with the benefits of fast application loading for a small amount of money versus a single SSD drive that you either have to compromise on space or spens a LOT of money to get a large drive.
And regarding Optimus, unless HP made a major, major, MAJOR error this machine most definitely has Optimus. There's no reason for it not to. All the modern mid range Nvidia graphics cards that are paired with Intel HD use Optimus. The only example I can think of that doesn't is the 660m used in the 3D model of the new Asus gaming laptop (G75?) and that is because of something to do with the 3D aspect of the laptop. Hell even the 670m, which is going into "high end" territory is able to use Optimus which is a nice improvement over the 500m series which capped out at 555m.
The bigger question is if the GPU will work with Nvidia's vanilla drivers or if we have to wait for HP to release their specific OEM drivers. My guess is that the regular Nvidia ones should work (since their Optimus drivers merged with the main drivers) but HP has been known to pull off some weird OEM crap like that before. -
Only if HP don't deviate from Nvidia's implementation for Optimus.
Both the normal Intel and Nvidia graphic drivers work simply by double click.
Even from a clean install.
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So I've made my decision on the hard drive. I'm going to avoid the 32GB mSSD and just go with the 750GB 7200rpm for now. Maybe sometime in the near future I'll look at purchasing a bigger SSD. However, that raises a couple more questions...
1. Is there any compatibility issues that come with purchasing a SSD or will any Solid State work with the 750GB 7200rpm and HP Dv7t?
2. Is it complicated to install a new SSD or can you just pop it in and be good to go?
3. Do you have any particular SSD that you like or prefer? and is there a certain size I should look for to accompany the 750GB 7200rpm HDD?
4. Or should i just stick with the mSSD+HDD
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Whether or not HP uses a standard format for their mSSD we will find out if someone that ordered one is able to access the port and tell us. Unfortunately previous manufacturers that have used this combo have created their own proprietary format so finding an aftermarket mSSD might be difficult. There is also a pretty decent possibility that if you do not order the mSSD that the miniPCI-e slot will not have the required connections to use a mSSD so even if you had access to the port and it was standard, an after market mSSD wouldn't work. These are all just guesses and we won't find out until someone gets a model with mSSD and tells us what the model is as well as someone without a mSSD tries one to see if it works. I'm just assuming more on the "can not" side because OEM manufacturers tend to limit upgradability if it saves them money. -
im thinking about buying the quickship model and having the laptop in 5-7 days just to check out and play around with ivy+kepler... return in 20 days and wait for envy ivy bridge :O... i dunno if i should do it or not haha
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1. Not really, most any will fit. Dv7 allows you to choose any two drives you want basically since it has two slots.
2. Not complicated to install but there are some tweaks you can do to optimize SSD usage. Check out Elpamsoft.com Home of the SSD Tweaker for Windows to get the SSD Tweaker.
3. Well Intel and Crucial are known to be quite reliable and Crucial M4 probably one of the best values. I mean if your doing a ssd boot os and 750gb as storage drive. 64gb is usually good enough, but some people prefer 128gb to install more games and also you get faster write speed with larger ssd sizes.
4.This option is really more for dv6t users which really hasn't been cleared up since both models don't have same amount of hard drive slots. DV7t users in my opinion should not waste their money on a $50 32gb cache drive. Since you have two slots, just get any ssd you like and clone the 750gb drive to the boot drive using acronis or other software. Then format the 750gb for storage and you an an optimal desktop setup.
But for DV6T users, you need to decide whats more important to you speed or capacity. I myself want a storage drive and ssd boot drive. But since we have only 1 slot, Msata is the savior to get the best of both worlds in a laptop that has only 1 drive slot (without compromising the blu-ray drive in this case). Yes it's only a cache drive, but it will still be much faster load times all around. I mean the best seagate hybrid drive is 750gb and has only a 8gb ssd cache on it and yet they sell very well because there is a noticeable speed increase. And the 500gb version only has a 4gb ssd cache and it has been recommended on most top review sites for a few years now. So the 32gb mssd cache should technically perform much better if HP sets it up correctly of course, lol.
Now ideally I want to get a 64gb Msata ssd and install the os on that to replace the 32gb cache. Well you could install os on the 32gb, but it will be cutting it close as you install programs. But since we don't know if HP will whitelist certain Mssd, we'll have to wait and see if this is a viable option. But for most people looking to get faster than the normal 7200rpm speeds, the 32gb cache will be good enough. However, if you don't care about space and just want all speed, then by far go ahead and get a 256GB or 512gb SSD if you can afford it and don't bother with mssd at all.
Lastly I will say I feel people are underrating how powerful an MSSD can be. Check the link below for overview and benchmarks of it's possible capabilities and of course this depends on the model HP decides to provide us. Hopefully they don't skimp on us and that's really the truth. We can only speculate or rather hope that HP would give us something worthwhile if their offering it, but hey until someone gets one and posts real benchmarks anyone can be right really as it being worth it or not. So note that the link below is a more quality MSSD drive, which there is no guarantee we will get.
But look closely at the PC compatibility as it states it can work the HP Envy 14 Beats Edition. So that is some good hope in my opinion.
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Almost forgot, I ordered my new dv6t yesterday. It has an estimated ship date of May 15.
my specs:
• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820QM Processor (2.7 GHz, 8MB L3 Cache)
• NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
• FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 750GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• 32GB mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
• 9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
• 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
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Ordered a dv7t on Sunday, if I like it I'll be looking to add an SSD....after somebody else does and figures out what the choices are.
I don't mind replacing the ODD but want to be sure it's an SATA III port -- or else I'll go the mSSD route but as I didn't get the mSSD with mine I assume I'll need an overpriced HP part to install one as in previous laptops?
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Hi guys,
I would like to see some reviews about Dv6.
Anyone using it? Or everyone waiting for the shipment?(idk about the shipping dates)
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Okay, so this will be my very first laptop I purchase and before I make a final decision, I need some suggestions.
I hear that putting Windows OS on SSD makes boot times, applications, etc run faster. If I were to get the mSSD, how would I know if the OS in on there or the HDD? And wouldn't the OS already be installed? So how would we be able to transfer the OS? And is 32 GB enough?
Between the i7-3610QM and the i7-3720QM, is there a significant difference performance wise? Is it worth the extra $170? I am in college and am primarily going to use the laptop for assignments, editing videos and making beats, not necessarily for gaming.
How are these specs?
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 630M Graphics with 1GB GDDR3 memory [HDMI, VGA]
FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
750GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
32GB mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
FREE Upgrade to Norton Internet Security(TM) 2012 - 15 Months Subscription (activation required)
6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - Up to 6.0 hours of battery life +++
15.6-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
HP TrueVision HD Webcam
Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
Backlit Keyboard
HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
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Aquitaine, since you have an dv7t like I said in my previous post you don't need to replace the odd nor bother with MSSD. You have a second slot so you can just get pretty much get any 2.5" SSD and put it in. I mean why spend 50 bucks on a 32gb MSSD, when you can get this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441
It has 5 Star reviews for a reason, there very reliable and also a great value. The 128gb ssd version or higher gives you even faster write speeds. But all of them give you 500mb/sec sequential read speeds at SATA III.
audidope, please go back a few pages to see the answer to your question about SSDs. It seems we all just keep answering the same question over and over. It's getting counterproductive and cluttering the forums from finding more useful information.
For gaming any of these processors will do, but since your not gaming. Video editing and encoding is where processor speeds can help. But only to shave down production times for the most part. So you will just have to wait a less amount for encodings to be completed. So you have to decide what that means to you. Since ivy's are new benchmarks are not all there yet. But I am sure you will save a few minutes if you get the better processor. If it's worth it depends on you. But as far capability there the same. Check these benchmarks as they are finally listed here. PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End
Rorkas, - Check out my last post as I compared those items. Though I will add that since we don't know how the cache drive will be configured we don't know how effective it will be compared to a hybrid drive. As the hybrid drives intelligently track what data you use most and only put the more frequent data on the 8gb ssd. I am not sure how the 32gb mssd cache will be optimized nor do we know what Model or speeds will be getting from it. So as of now it's up in the air there until someone gets it. -
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So you guys know cnet tested the gaming power of this system, it can game at 1080p. they got 36 average fps with medium settings in battlefield 3, which from what i have read is extremly demanding in 1080p
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Anyway, I am not sure what you mean by dual drivers. As far as I know the 32 gb cache drive will be something that speeds up load times and the OS will be installed on the 7200rpm. It will be copying data in the background over to the 32gb cache drive to be accessed faster which will speed everything up.
However, you can also make it a boot drive with os on it. Because of the small space you would need to do a fresh install. But as we said 32gb is too small and will cause issues. So we can only hope HP will allow us to upgrade to a 64GB one later to finally have a proper OS boot drive with 750gb storage drive on a dv6t without removing odd.
I finally found a good link on a recent review of a 32gb cache drive.
Please everyone check this out for explanation on how it works and benchmarks, thanks.
MyDigitalSSD DDR2 Super Cache 32GB mSATA Solid State Drive Review :: TweakTown USA Edition -
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anyone know when these models are coming to europe?
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Just ordered mine
dv7t Quad Ed
• Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3720QM Processor (2.6 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
• NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
• 12GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 750GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• NO mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
• Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
• No additional security software
• 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - Up to 5.75 hours of battery life +++
• 17.3-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
• FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
• HP TrueVision HD Webcam
• Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
• Backlit Keyboard
• Included 2 Year Warranty
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
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And I'll quote it says "Demanding games of 2011 like Battlefield 3 will be playable in 1366x768 and medium or high settings. Less demanding games, such as Modern Warfare 3, are easily playable with maxed out settings and 1080p resolution."
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Indeed I am. Lol don't worry with HP discounts only get bigger from here. I think everyone knows whose buying early that there will be better deals down the road for sure. It's just some of us can't wait, hehe, as you always have to pay the premium to have latest and greatest when it comes out.
I believe we will be able to upgrade, just either easily if it's not included on the whitelist, or the hard way if it is as we will need a modified bios that removes the whitelist. So I am sure someone will find a way, heh. -
Do you think there will be better deals in the next 3 weeks? I am trying to get it for my birthday (May 21st). I can wait, just waiting for reviews, and other forum members posting their experiences with the laptop. And what do you think about upgrading the RAM later on?
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