*HP dv6t & dv7t (70XX / 71XX series) IVY BRIDGE Owners Lounge*

lol im happy im going into bme but ima get shat on in bio tho . btw idk about the new gen but in envy 15, the max is 8 gb for 1600 mhz memory. just make sure the system supports it b4 you get 8+gb of ram

 

It does. The cpu supports 32GB of memory. The DIMM configuration supports two sticks in dual channel configuration. 16GB is also offered as a configuration in building the system. It can be assumed that the board then supports at least 16GB.

 

Thanks for the tips. Regarding the memory, a video rview (a few posts back) claims that the memory is actually DDR3 1600MHz. Also, how does one go about swapping out the HDD or an SSD? Is it a do it yourself procedure?

 

Swapping the hard drive for an SSD should be fairly straightforward. There should be a back panel that provides access to the drive, and 2-4 screws to remove (you'll need a small philips screwdriver). As for installing the drive/OS, you may need to build the recovery discs to reload the operating system. If your son can get a cheap copy of Windows 7 Pro OEM from his school, it may be worth it for the clean install.

For the memory, I'll believe it when I have it in hand. I've had HP tell me 1066, 1333, and 1600MHz for this model. It may be 1600, but I wouldn't count on it. If it is - great! If it's not, oh well. I always assume that if the manufacturer doesn't specify, they will give you the lesser of the available options.

 

yeah ik the cpu can handle it but idk what was with the envy but it couldnt support over 8gb of 1600 mhz. i think u can go up to 16 gb of 1333 mhz but not 160 mhz idk why tho

 

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me, but then I've heard quite a few interesting things about them. Hopefully we'll see some benchmarks against the Ivybridge series soon and get some real data on it.

 

To be fair, you are technically correct, the cheaper RAM would bottleneck the system if and only IF you are bothering to do any GPU intensive task on the Intel IGP however, with the monster that is the GT650M, why in the hell would you bother doing anything intensive with the HD4000? The following is of course my personal opinion but, I personally don't care for any of Intel's IGP offerings as long as they don't choke while web browsing and typing out a document or two. I assume this is why we buy these monster laptops with the insanely powerful GPU's (laptop wise anyway). For the engineering (father?) son's laptop, 99% of the programs he'll use for engineering will be GPU intensive especially since all of them will use some OpenGL/OpenAL libraries, for that, the dedi GPU he'll be using.

 

does anyone know what type of programs will be run for biomedical engineering? im also buying a laptop for school and was wondering what to get

 

Does anyone know if the US HP store ships internationally, specially to Japan? I fear that the Japan online store won't get these models for quite some time and they'll either be differently configured or cost much, much more for the same configuration. This happened last year when I tried to buy a HP netbook here in Japan. From the US store it was about 450 dollars or so while a lesser specced model here in Japan was probably close to 700 dollars or so.

If they don't ship internationally is there anything wrong with having it purchased and shipped to my family in the US and have them send it to me as a "gift"?

 

the best option for you actually would be to ship it to someone u trust in the us and get them to air ship it to u.

 

This is the wrong forum to ask but just in case anyone might know, is there any issue in dealing with sending a commercial product this way? Like I mentioned I would have my family send it to me as if they bought me a gift or whatever. I just get worried because on the HP page it says something like the product is not allowed to be exported. But I imagine that has to do with commercial reasons, for example not purchasing it in the US to resell in other countries, yea?

 

Thought i'd throw my hat into the discussion as many people are confused about certain issues pertaining to configuration of the new dv6/7. The hard drive acceleration cache is useless unless paired with a HDD, though anything HDD related is a fail as SSD's are infinitely better in every way. The 2gb DDR5 graphics card is a must as BF3 WILL bottleneck as soon as it runs out of memory. This has been documented with higher class graphics cards running on 1gb of DDR5. Do yourself a favor and get the 2gb card don't listen to the people who say it isn't nessecary, chances are they made a stupid 1gb mistake and encourage others to do the same. Hope this helps.

 

Also DO NOT buy a crucial m4, the write speeds are a joke... something like 200mbps. Pick up a 120gb patriot pyro se 500write/read sata3. tiger direct has them for 110$

 

Thinking about ordering 16GB RAM for my bad boy before it arrives. Any suggestions guys? 1333mhz or 1600mhz?

 

I said BATTLEFRONT 3. And thats a 1.5gb card. You get an A for effort though.

 

mmm thats also on 5670*1600 res.The fact is that the GT650m will run out of proccessing power before it could utlize more than 1 GB of Vram.

P.S Battlefront 3 was canceled by developers due to cost factors

 

If SSDs were infinitely better than HDDs then why do they still exist? Because they offer more storage space at a much lower price point. Neither one is objectively better than the other because they each have their advantages and disadvantages. All the speed in world from a top notch SSD wouldn't mean anything if you had no programs to install or data to use because of lack of storage space.

Also, as basharg has shown you with the benchmark results, the 650m is most likely unable to use the extra 1GB of memory. The 650m is commonly related to the 570m of previous generation making the linked chart relevant. The fact that a faster card has virtually ZERO performance gain from additional memory should make it obvious.

 

More proof:


Also keep in mind that we are talking about the 650m here and this is a 6950 desktop card !

 

Has anyone seen the Ivy Bridge DV7T that a seller is offering on eBay? They have tons of pictures including the backlit keyboard. I'm thinking of buying the 16GB configuration, but would like to know if it's worth it:

Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
16GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
750GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
NO mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
30% off 9 cell Lithium Ion Battery
17.3-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
HP TrueVision HD Webcam
802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
Backlit Keyboard
Included 2 Year Warranty

HP's price is $1,679.99 with the $300 current instant rebate and their price is $1450 shipped. Any suggestions? Is this worth the price?

 

Btw I am not saying that getting the 2GB version is the wrong thing(for gaming),it just doesn't satisfy the cost/performance ratio IMO.That said,the jump to 2GB would be beneficial for video editing and other similar tasks.

 

You wouldn't be doing anything ilegal if you have your family send you the laptop.

However, be prepared to have to pay VAT (value added tax) when the package gets to Japan. I don't know how customs works there but at least in Portugal/Spain/UK (the places I've had stuff sent to) customs tend to make random checks to charge taxes. I think they're random because they haven't charged taxes for all the packages I've sent/received.

Also, bear in mind that Hp's online shop only accepts payment from banks in the US or paypal accounts linked to a bank on US soil.

 

I dont know if this applies to the US, but some Chinese website are reporting the memory used in the hp dv6-7xxx to be 1600 Mhz
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bodnara.co.kr%2Fbbs%2Farticle.html%3FD%3D7%26cate%3D19%26d_category%3D1%26num%3D90375&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=EUC-KR

 

Mne just shipped, probably going to receive it on Friday!

 

Nice! please keep us updated

 

not sure if this is true or not, but apparently they are using Intel's SLC mSATA SSD : )
source:
translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=KSC&langpair=auto|en&rurl=translate.google.com&tbb=1&u=http://www.bodnara.co.kr/bbs/article.html%3FD%3D7%26cate%3D19%26d_category%3D1%26num%3D90375%26mn%3D3

Also the same test unit used Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230 if anyone is interested in knowing that.

 

Just got an e-mail that mine just shipped! Surprising since my estimated ship date was May 15th. I chose the standard shipping option (5-7 bus days) but it is Fedex and I got a valid tracking number.

So cool!

 

this is craaaazy!! I posted last night that I was being overly optimistic hoping that it shipped tomm and i'd get it late this week.

Got an email from HP this morning- Shipped today- Estimated delivery is May 10th! I guess I must of gotten upgraded to the express shipping even though I only did the free shipping!!

So excited!!

 

That is awesome! My estimated ship date is May 16th, so maybe mine will ship tomorrow.

 

Ya fedex says mine should arive on thursday, i also got the 5 day

 

Mine too. Original shipping date was 5/8 on 5-7 day shipping. Confirm says shipping today, delivering by 5/10.

 

I agree that he won't be using the Intel IGP - the board probably doesn't support it with the nVidia GPU. My point is - where is this GPU intensive program going to run? On the GPU's memory block? The program is going to run in primary system memory. It will pass off a large amount of the rendering work to the GPU and it's memory block, but the software itself has to run in the primary environment of the system. That means CPU and system memory. It can then generate new threads that can be processed on the GPU, but the primary thread will always reside on the CPU and it's data load will always reside in system memory. Otherwise CAD, Photoshop, etc. would require video cards with 2-8GBs of memory - and that's not going to be commonplace for some time yet. If anything, the argument could be made that his CPU is not very important in that matter with a powerful GPU, but the memory becomes more critical to performance.

 

Any suggestions? Is this worth the price?

 

Can someone explain to me what the Hybrid Hard drive option is on the HP Dv6t 7000? I'd didn't think it has an SSD in it. Is it much of an advantage over the 7200 HDD 750 gb HDD. I don't see anyone selecting the hybrid in their specs.

 

Don't buy the memory from HP. If you want 16 GB, buy 2x8GB aftermarket. It will cost $150 or less.

 

Hybrid drives use a hard drive with a very large cache, often a small SSD. They are faster for reading commonly used files, and speedwise tend to fall between HDD's and SSD's. They are nice if you want the speed of the SSD, but with a lot of storage space. However, they still have the higher power consumption and heat, and only improve performance on commonly used files (which are stored in the cache). I don't personally recommend them, though they do have their uses.

 

Does anybody know what RAM speed I should get? 1333mhz or 1600mhz?

I want to order 16GB 2x8, either crucial @ 1333mhz or corsair @ 1600mhz. Price is similar because the corsair is on sale at newegg.

 

Yes! We have shippage! And a day early at that. Now here's hoping they don't get stuck somewhere because of the large amount of orders. >.<

 

The reason I asked is because I'm opening it up when I get it to install my 256GB M4 SSD, might as well kill two birds with one stone and do the RAM upgrade at once.

Oh by the way, my original ship date was the 15th also, but I got a shipment notification this morning that it will be here on the 10th. Yay...

 

I normally work on two 1600x1200 monitors. Trying to do software development on the non-HD screen is painful. Just not enough screen real estate.

 

All this early shipping is getting me excited. Mine is estimated to ship on the 16th.

 

Order in production
(Estimated to ship on May 9, 2012)

Ok....who do you have to sleep with to get shipped?

Have any been shipped with a 3720 cpu?

 

You can read about it here
AnandTech - Seagate 2nd Generation Momentus XT (750GB) Hybrid HDD Review

 

The previous coupon that was listed here (now expired) let you take off 400 off 1400$ customization. Drop the 16gb to 8gb because HP will over charge you for the extra memory. You can buy it yourself. Wait for a coupon to come, you can probably get that same laptop with 8gb ram for a little over 1100

 

Thank you demonedge. That's what I was l looking for! I hope the 30% off will come soon

 

Nobody seems to know what memory speed these use?

I know the Envy 15 latest version comes with 1600mhz memory, I assume this will be the same?

 

That Indian video review says yes, it is 1600MHz memory, but HP unfortunately does not indicate the speed of the memory on their website. So we don't really have a guaranteed source for the speed of the memory.

 

I would be leery of buying something so expensive off eBay. Not to mention they only give you 14 days to return it before you then have to defer to HP for help. I suppose you could go to eBay for help as well. At least HP gives you 21 days. There is a new HP coupon for $350 off (NBT6631), so the stated configuration with the 8 GB ram instead would be $1229.99. Then upgrade to 16 on your own.

 

Bah my delivery date is now the 11th meaning I probably won't get it until next Monday. Boooo

 

An HP Sales Rep told me it was 1066, then told me it was 1333 in the same chat session. It seems we'll have to wait until someone gets one and tells us.