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    *HP dv6t & dv7t Select Edition / Quad Edition (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by radukr, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. HauntedForest

    HauntedForest Notebook Enthusiast

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    This exactly.
     
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    Yeah but, see they attached the optical drive on PORT 5!
     
  3. MyFishWagon

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    So, If I am understanding this correctly, If the dv7's come with the Optical Drive and HDD on ports 0 and 1, then I probably would NOT be able to install a secondary HDD later on ? This is, assuming it comes with the faulty chipset.

    Is this correct ?
     
  4. Tuna2

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    I suspect that there are numerous other people who have had their dv6's delayed also. I ordered mine on the 14th, expected ship date 3/28 - delayed until 4/1. I've been on the phone with the resolutions dept the past two mornings requesting free upgrade to 2 day shipping but keep getting the run around. Not Happy! :mad:
     
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    Which is why he said that reducing the bandwidth on the port the optical drive is connected to will make no difference, even though it was affected by the recall. There is a more detailed explanation of this a few pages back.
     
  6. merkmal

    merkmal Notebook Enthusiast

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    daf323, What everyone is trying to tell you is that it doesn't affect the performance of an optical drive to have the voltage reduced on the affected ports.

    Yes in your case the optical drive is hooked to port 5, but that port has most likely been tweaked in the motherboard design so that the voltage is stepped down slightly. HP would have had to meet Intel's demands for using the chipset or face a backlash. While you may or may not be correct in assuming HP doesn't care enough about consumers to ship a faulty product, but I can assure you HP would NOT under any circumstances want to upset Intel or hinder their relationship with the largest CPU supplier in the world. It's not in good business sense to screw either your customers or your supplier.

    I think everyone needs to calm down. It very well could be as simple as the driver hasn't been updated yet to reflect the actual revision of the chipset. Intel does publish drivers that correct how their chipsets report from time to time. You can find those on Intel's site and also on HP's site. Also has anyone made sure that this isn't a separate SATA controller? Even if these laptops shipped with a separate SATA controller they would still report the affected chipset as the chipset does more than drive SATA.

    So if you absolutely have you heart set on hating HP and returning a laptop that is perfectly fine that's definitely your prerogative. I think I'd rather use a little bit of reason and common sense... and wait and see what actually is the case instead of speculating what you think is going on.
     
  7. ArchAngel777

    ArchAngel777 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ran OCCT to flooded all 8 cores to 100%. The temps went from an idle of 52c to 87c. The fan ramped up to full speed when the hottest core hit 87c and then fell down to 84c where it stayed pegged. Honestly, I have never, ever seen anything come even close to putting a CPU under full load like OCCT, P95, Linpack does... But it is good to know that it stays pretty cool.

    palm rest under this scenario was warmer than it was on the right side, but it wasn't really all that warm. If I had to guess, 90F maybe.

    The fan was very quiet during the idle mode.

    Again, it pulls around 60 watts for a typical gamign session, which is really impressive.
     
  8. Jerohm

    Jerohm Notebook Evangelist

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    That is UNLIKELY what you will receive. You SHOULD be concerned if your harddrive(s) don't exclusively use Port 0/1. It is FAR easier to just undervolt the 3 Gb/s ports 2-5 (than jumper MB traces). YES, I admit that this solution will slightly reduce the bandwidth of THOSE ports, but as I have TRIED to convey, optical drives are more on the order of 1.5Gb/s ... it just doesn't make any difference. And you have NO access to the other 3 gb/s ports on a laptop ... EVER. You should be JUST fine, to add a second HD in the future.
     
  9. optomechanical

    optomechanical Notebook Enthusiast

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    Daf,

    I posted this back on page 82, but please refer to this thread regarding B2/B3

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m17x/560916-dell-send-me-chipset-rev-b2-3.html

    In it, you'll find a user that PROVES he has a B3 chip by physically inspecting it, while Windows still shows 04 in the wmid string and cpu-z shows B2. It's a Dell, but it's the same situation.

    Apple MacBooks show 05 as the stepping in cpu-z, which isnt B2 OR B3

    The point is, manufacturers override in the BIOS what stepping is reported to the operating system. They do this for backwards compatibility, especially in situations like this where there is simply not time to regression test and QA new bios, drivers, and windows functionality... not to mention re-creating their base OS image.

    Wait for a BIOS update, or try reloading the bios defaults and see if it changes. Check your serial number against HP's site mentioned a few posts back.... is it in the bad range?
     
  10. MyFishWagon

    MyFishWagon Notebook Consultant

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    Great to hear. I have no knowledge of any of this, so I'm learning while I read.

    Thanks, and repped.
     
  11. Falco152

    Falco152 Notebook Demon

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    I don't think they know really ... They are only there to sell or collect orders.

    I called HP Sales a few times, they all said the Intel wireless card (Intel wifi 1000) was dual band on my model prior my purchase. ... Then wasted my time with HP Resolution to replace my 'defective' 'dual band' card for another same card :laugh:

    At least, they were nice and I made a profit out of it.
     
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    HauntedForest Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is good to know. Will be interesting to see if any dv6 owners can prove they have a B2 by physically inspecting it.
     
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    Also, I noticed that no one questioned if it is possible to physically inspect it without actually voiding the warranty or damage it during the reassembly.
     
  14. JanusSoCal

    JanusSoCal Notebook Guru

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    It's about freaking time! My dv7 changed to shipped today, delayed from 3/25, told that build date was extended to 4/1, glad coming out a day earlier. Others who were given 4/1 date will probably get theirs soon too. At least for the rest of everybody who haven't gotten their orders, doesn't seem like HP is delaying after the extended delay date, which I was fearing.
     
  15. City Pig

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    Relax. It's not using the affected ports. We've already confirmed this. You have no chance at all of experiencing the defect, and most manufacturers are doing the same thing. Therefore, if you send it back, the only way to be sure that you'll get a B3, no matter who you go with, is to wait 3+ months to buy.
     
  16. MarioManiac

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    have someone made some videos for youtube? unbox video or something? :)
     
  17. taxmantoo

    taxmantoo Notebook Evangelist

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    The pics you showed didn't seem to be the same menu as this one. Does the line circled in red match your computer?

    [​IMG]


    What's your serial number?

    1. Locate your serial number by clicking Start, entering HP and selecting HP Support Assistant (the serial number is displayed near the bottom edge of the opening window) or looking at the printed Service Tag label located in the battery bay.
    NOTE: Shut down your notebook and disconnect the AC adapter before removing the battery to access the Service Tag label.

    a: If the fourth through sixth digits of the serial number are “108” or numerically higher, your HP notebook does not have the affected Intel chipset. No further action is necessary.

    b: If the fourth through sixth digits of the serial number are “107” or numerically lower, your HP notebook may have the affected Intel chipset. Proceed to step 2. (step 2 is the picture I quoted above)


    The Blu-Ray drives in yesterday's DV6s were plugged into port 4, IIRC. That would be an affected port if the computer had the affected chipset. HP seems to be saying that shipment of the affected chipsets was halted already.
     
  18. HauntedForest

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    Yeah, I would love an unboxing, too. I just ordered mine this week and its estimated ship date isn't until April 13.
     
  19. Tuna2

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    My dv6 also just shipped. Odered 3/14, delayed from 3/28 to 4/1. We'll see how long it takes to get here. :rolleyes:
     
  20. yun

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    My SONY SB is B2, too. It's time to return, no matter what...
    idk*** they are doing, my MSI MB is B3 (just replaced by newegg like 2 weeks ago)
     
  21. MyFishWagon

    MyFishWagon Notebook Consultant

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    You received your HP ?
     
  22. yun

    yun Notebook Deity

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    No, HP *** off, Mine is still in production, I mean ****

    So i ordered a SONY SB
     
  23. yun

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    Online Order 03/13/2011, 01:29:52 PDT

    Estimated ship date:
    Your customized HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC will be
    built by March 25, 2011
     
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    MyFishWagon Notebook Consultant

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    delete post.
     
  25. Jerohm

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    ... and you don't THINK that the reason that desktop MBs may NEED to have the B2 chip REPLACED is BECAUSE they have no control over what the user may attach to Ports 2-5?

    What is your recourse with the asteroid hurling towards the Earth :eek: ?
     
  26. MyFishWagon

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    But it is still in production ? OR has it actually shipped already ?
     
  27. yun

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    Obviously, I know it won't affect in theory , but who knows if they hided somethings or not My SB only has 1 yr warranty. I sell my laptop every 3-5 months.
    Intel PAY for them to recycle old chipests, they are still using them because intell offers defective chipest in LOWER price.

    I'm not that dumb to pay $1299 for a potential defetive notebook. IF they ask this for $700, I will keep it.
     
  28. yun

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    Mar 13, 2011 $909.99 HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC Order in production
    (Estimated to ship on March 25, 2011) Tracking provided upon shipment
     
  29. MyFishWagon

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    Yes I understand it says ESTIMATED to ship March 25, but today is March 31.

    Sorry bud, but that isn't answering the question whether it has shipped or not :confused:
     
  30. yun

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    :p :p If it ships, it won't have " Tracking provided upon shipment"

    It will display a shipment tracking number
     
  31. humblebeast

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    i ordered mine on the march 13, est build date was the 25th, pushed to the 5th, i wounder if mine was pushed further because of the i7-2820
     
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    I think it is slightly ridiculous that people are worried about their laptop being delayed for a couple days. Some of you are cancelling because of this? Lol.
     
  33. yun

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    Did they send you an email?
    They don't even tell me when it will ship, no email, no call, nothing.
    I don't know what is my new est date...........POOR management.
     
  34. humblebeast

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    So anyone figured out what kind of battery life we get on integrated graphics
     
  35. fmjoker

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    Just be careful, The one's on HP's website don't have eSATA ports, but according to the costco website they are selling ones with. Sounds strange to me; probably a misprint on their part. Maybe some of the cheaper retail models will have them.

    Costco - HP dv6t Quad Laptop Core i7-2630QM 2GHz 1GB ATI HD 6490M Graphics DVD±R/RW
     
  36. timn99

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    To those that just receive yours, would like to see some more pics or videos please :D
     
  37. humblebeast

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    No i called them the just randomly sent me an email saying "sorry for the inconvenience" so im like are they talking about, then when i called they told me that my order was delayed to the 5th, and after some finesse the reimbursed me for two day shipping and 60 off the comp....$99
     
  38. JanusSoCal

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    Have you tried calling the Resolutions Dept.? They are actually a lot better than the stupid webchat CSRs. I mean, up to this date, I've never got an update or an email with my new date. My calling the Resolutions Dept. was how I got my 4/1 delay date, and well, my laptop ended shipping out today. Call them and ask them, they'll tell you.
     
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    My dv6t quad edition just arrived with the B2 chipset, i have no doubt that others will follow in the coming weeks. The consensus seems to be 'it's no big deal' (even though the optical drive is connected to port 5), but i'm still returning mine. I'd just rather not spend 1000 on something not new, and 'undervolted' (impossible to determine) or otherwise.
     
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    well you need to call hp to see.
     
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    daf323, check the serial number to make sure. I know you are "certain", but there's actually been talk of why the methods you used may be wrong. taxmantoo listed the steps and what you are looking for on page 87.
     
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    ahh, what's the resolution dept phone # ?

    thanks
     
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    Whats the Resolutions Depts. number?
    Thanks. :cool:
     
  45. JanusSoCal

    JanusSoCal Notebook Guru

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    1-888-227-8451
     
  46. whodeymaster

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    Thanks.
    I need 10 letters. :rolleyes:
     
  47. Jerohm

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    That is certainly your right, and with your concerns, probably for the best. HP could have addressed this situation head on by releasing a formal company response... which they didn't. The sales web site has had its share of flubs since early March. There has also been a fair amount of misinformation and speculation posted here as fact. Time will tell how this all plays out. Better luck with your next computer purchasing experience.
     
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    its 1-866-217-6014
     
  49. daf323

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    The serial number check is not convincing for me, mine apparently doesn't fall into the 'affected' s/n range, but I would find it hard to believe that windows and every other method of checking is reporting B2 stepping chip.

    I took off the back cover but the chip was not readily visible. I went through the update to SP1 of win7 but all reports remain the same.

    Anyone know how much is involved in getting at the physical chipset so i can read the numbers on it?
     
  50. yun

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    Why not just use CPU Z
    I use CPU Z to check my MSI MB, it display B3
    but it's B2 from my sony SB
     
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