*HP dv6t & dv7t Select Edition / Quad Edition (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

Sigh, dv7t with March 30 estimated ship date, delayed until April 5th. Did manage to get my 2 day shipping costs refunded.

 

Don't you see, he doesn't need us anymore he has his laptop.

 

It is exactly that, “Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family”. I would bet a fair sum that if i take this thing completely apart to locate the chip it will be labeled as such.

 

The screen seems the same as last Dv7 with a small sweet spot as far as viewing angle.

The audio is very good. Those new speakers under the screen sound nice! As far as bass, it of course is lacking, as it would with any laptop. It has the small sub, but it doesn't do much for me. The overall audio sounds great for a laptop though!

 

Thanks! I'm hoping when my computer gets here next week, I'll be in explore mode too.

 

Anyone knows what is the problem?
I tried reinstall driver from HP but no luck
It was good when out-of-box but have to reinstall windows because of SSD

Update: NVM, PCI card reader driver from HP solve problem

 

Anyone tried posting about the B2 issue over at the HP Support Forum? Might be able to get some answers over there.

Notebook Hardware - HP Support Forum

I'm thinking it's a case of needing an updated bios or drivers, but I would like to know for sure before the 21 day return period.

 

3dMark 06 yet anyone?

 

PowerDvD is preinstalled 10.0.1.2430 on my dv7 with BD-R. It's not the "Ultra" version, but it's a nice touch to be able to play Blurays out of the box.

 

The chartreuse ovals have got to be the SATA III ports.
Looking at port 1, like I should have done this afternoon, it shows a connector with a big metal shield or hold down clamp on it, looks absolutely nothing like the end of the mystery cable I marked in red.

My problem is that I got disoriented and thought the red arrow marked cable was occupying the cable run for the secondary hard drive. Now that I've got the orientation right (after looking at page 43 again), I realize the missing drive cable comes in from the lower right of the pic, not the left. Oh well. We've decided to run both computers as-is for a while and decide if it's worth upgrading one or both to SSD. Hopefully the price of SSDs will come down by then.

 

ArchAngel777 posted it earlier I believe. It was in the 12k range.

 

Because everything right now is based on speculation here is my take...

Not to long ago there was a push the industry to go to lead free solder (2006ish) and along with that came problems, BIG PROBLEMS. For any of you who owned certian dv6000 or dv9000 or laserjet printer, etc prob know what I am talking about. Well, basically EVERY SINGLE ONE of these were faulty. If you have one of these that is still working you are the exception, not the rule. I happened to own all 3 and all three are parts due to nvidia chipset problems, format board problems all relating back to solder issues. After my 2nd laptop died I started doing research and found that this problem was HUGE. I kept thinking this was going to turn into a massive lawsuit and put HP in the hole big time because it looks like they were knowingly shipping these out because the problem was difficult to fix. Now, put yourself in HP's shoes, you are faced with two options: 1) Stop making products until it is fixed and issue massive recalls on product already shipped or 2) Keep sending them out and try and fix the problem as soon as possible and sweep the rest under the rug on the backs of unknowing consumers. As a BUSINESS who reports to stockholder what way would you go.

Now fast forward to today....there is a lawsuit (see the thread on this forum) but it was not HUGE headline news around the world. Actually what happened is most owners didn't even know what was going on. When their product broke they just got it fixed or got a different one. I am sure customer service got an earful in some cases but in the end they just moved on to the next product. Actually after researching this further I found that when HP told me they were not going to fix any of my products and claimed to "not heard anything about any solder/GPU/format board problems" I could buy the parts needed to fix it myself. So decided I wanted to purchase a new motherboard/format board/etc. ironically the components were 2-3 times higher than unaffected components due to "High Demand" (i.e. dv6000 pre lead free solder motherboard - $1xx; dv6000 lead free solder motherboard $2xx) They were even offering a non-Rohs compliant (lead free) board as a substitute part because THEY KNEW THEY HAD A PROBLEM and OVERCHARGING FOR IT!!! So basically hp made a buttload on selling repairs for defective components, probably enough to more than pay for the measly (in the scheme of things) lawsuit they are facing.

So how does this relate to the Cougar Point chipset problem.....I truly believe if intel wouldn't have come clean publicly HP would have just shipped product as if nothing happened and then when the fix was in and all their old board stock was used up they would quietly switch over to B3. Intel actually blindsided companies like HP when they announced the defect to them at the same time as the public so these companies would have no choice to swap them out. I think this was done on purpose by intel and applaud them for coming clean. Now, what is HP to do....stop selling high end notebooks for a few months?? History has shown us that that is not the path they would choose. So what to do.....well we will see what they decided as soon as someone decides to open one up but my guess would be somehow take advantage of the B2's they have laying around because hey, Intel even said they can be used if you only use ports 0 and 1. I mean why not, the chances of their being a problem with the chipset in a notebook is low and the chance anyone would actually sue of the problem is low so use um up!! You never know though, maybe hp will surprise us and do the right thing or maybe Intel just made it too public and threw enough much money at the problem to make a good deal for HP to fix it. If the dv7qe dv6qe end up being the B3 I would guess the latter.

But hey, this is all speculation anyways......

 

some really good points in here. I was an owner of the dv9000 and had tons of problems. I've had problems with hp in the past so I know to always get the extended warranty. I can only hope that we are getting the new chip. One reason to think that hp wouldn't do this is that it would hurt their reputation. I do know that they have to be extremely careful with these kinds of things because if they aren't it will lead to several front page stories on how hp tried to sell faulty chips. You made a good point about Intel informing the world about the faulty chips. They would be very stupid to decide to keep selling that chip that made headlines about it being flawed. I don't know.... I'm just trying to not worry too much for now.

 

The only thing this doesn't account for is that all of the other manufacturers that have released SB laptops also say B2 unless they have a BIOS update. I still think somebody needs to open one up and find out for sure what they are doing.

 

According to HP's FAQ on the Intel Chipset issue:

Is HP still making products with the affected Intel chipset?
No. HP has stopped manufacturing products with the Intel technology at issue and has placed a shipment hold on products in HP and channel inventory.

When will/did HP begin shipping products that do not have the Intel chipset issue?
March 2011.

Do we trust HP at their word or did they outright LIED?!!

 

Once again, as others have posted... who is gonna be brave enough to open their laptops....???

KJ

 

when i get my dv7 i might because i just want to know like i had it i just want to know if it is b2 or b3 if its b2 hp you are going to have alot of problems.

 

AllStar1, all eyes on you! +1 rep in advance. Oh, I take it you know how to put it back together, right?

KJ

 

maybe but i just want to know lol if its b2 or b3.

 

It might be more difficult than you think haha.

 

yeah your right but don't you guys want to know it once and for all b2 vs b3 on dv6 and dv7 laptops.

 

just follow the service manuals here:
dv6:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02745432.pdf

dv7:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02718431.pdf

 

100% of course!!! I guess at worst case scenario, if you can't put it back into a functional state, but make it look good, you might be able to return within the 21 day for a full refund! LMFAO!

Gotta have a sense of humor with these things I guess.

KJ

 

The unknown pci device is the SD card reader... the driver is on the HP support driver page under Storage. I ran into the same thing. It's the realtek driver.

 

I don't think HP is known for their (good) reputation. Why did we all buy the dv6t or dv7t? Because of price and features, not because HP has a good reputation for customer service or build quality.

 

Here is an unboxing video (2 parts because i accidentally hit a button while recording). Sorry for the shaky cam and not great lighting.

YouTube - March 31, 2011 6:46 PM
YouTube - March 31, 2011 6:51 PM

Some comparison pictures between the dv6-4000 and dv6-6000:

https://picasaweb.google.com/steven.sprigler/Laptop?feat=directlink

 

THANK YOU!!! it looks frickin beautiful and nice job unboxing with one hand

 

Great stuff man. Thank you.

I cant wait for my dv7, its been stuck in Alaska for well over a day

 

I second what the others have said in that it really looks almost black and not as bronze-ish as I originally thought it would be. I really like the look and finish of it. It definitely does have a brown tint to it but you have to get it in just the right light and at just the right angle. Compared to the dv6t-4000 it's definitely a lot prettier.

I like the layout of the keyboard on the 6000 better than the 4000 but for some reason I like the feel of the 4000 keyboard better. Hard to say why.

The keyboard flex isn't noticeable at all why typing. It will flex if you push down on it but in a normal typing situation it doesn't really flex at all.

 

Thanks! Looks great!

 

if I get mine before you, I have absolutely no problem taking a peek ... no FedEx update today however, so there is no way I get it before Monday afternoon. If support chips are marked B3, I guess that everyone can rest easy, but the exact same discussion in occuring on Dell threads, so I suspect there is a little more to the story than just HP being an evil company trying to screw its customers. There is talk on overclocker threads that CPU-Z has trouble reporting some voltages with the Sandy Bridge sets, BUT ASUS states it CAN BE USED to determine their new B3 rev. boards.

 

Am I the only one that is going to call you out on "chartreuse", um... I mean green?

 

hows the cooling on your machine?
does it start to throttle or does the palmrest get really warm after a few hours of intense gaming?

 

LizardKing, that is BS for that video card. What good was it to upgrade $100 then for that card, instead of just sticking to the 3000.

 

Alright I'm off to bed but just a real quick comparison:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub...E8dGVZa1ZrV2U0bkJUMmsxc2NHclp4ZUE&output=html

Some weirdness in how passmark queries the system makes it think it's using the Intel graphics but it's very obviously using the 6770M. Also I ran into some problems trying to run the unigine benchmarks as it won't display fullscreen. I didn't bother running them windowed.

The graphics driver seems kind of hackish and maybe that's to get the switchable graphics running but I wasn't able to force the native ATI driver to install which probably would have helped benchmark-wise. It uses one driver version it seems that matches for the Intel and the ATI graphics. Under the intel GPU device properties it even says ATI wrote the driver... not sure that's true or not but the system certainly thinks so.

Anyway... that's all for now. Good night!

 

I'm no expert on benchmarks.
But it seems that the improvement we see with the 6770 on the 5730 (slightly below the Geforce GT 540M).... quite contrary to the 3d mark scores we see in earlier posts?

anyone want to do some FPS tests?

 

I'm so annoyed, im calling them friday...

 

I'm so disappointed by the posts from the initial recipients... I guess the price was too good to be true. Video card problems and B2 issue to boot.

 

You should render some video on your own, IGP 3000 vs. 6770. At least other potential buyers won't get duped. Nothing talks like a 10% drop in gross revenue.

 

hi, everyone this is my first post here, i also waiting for my dv7 quad to come, and i see alot discussion about chipset issue, i found this on hp site, and the link update as of the 27th.....i found that if your revii is end with 05 the it good.


Intel® Chipset Design Issue May Affect Certain HP Desktop and Notebook PCs - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

 

Here is mah First impression. And I want to talk about gaming, graphic card on this post.

There was a little time to play with this new toy, it might be useless but I have got something.

I played TF2 about 2 hours, MW2 and Dragon Age 2 about 1 hour each.

TF2 itself runs great (of course it is four years old game) and had no crash or shifty or somethingwhatever people earlier said. Good framerate. Except small screen, I used to 22inch. lol MW2 also runs good.

But Dragon Age 2 have some problem. I actually experienced game freezing twice (not whole machine but just game) and some magic effect did not work properly (possibly game bug but not happened on desktop). Game works great on 'High' graphic option, over 60fps when roaming kirkwall thanks to low resolution.

I think those 6770M graphic driver have not completed and not optimized (our pavilion is first laptop comes with 6770M).

Anyway dv6qe have not affected by B2 chipset. We only have two sata device, one HDD and one ODD.
But dv7qe and Envy 17s are must be affected since they use more than 2 sata device. Lawsuit seems oblivious.

 

I just went to check it out in my local electronics shop (in Singapore). I couldn't find a button for the touchpad. Can anyone confirm if there's indeed no button for the touchpad? Because to me that is a big deal. I used a mouse and I'm sure the touchpad will be nuisance while typing.

 

Exactly! I found this link ( HP Consumer Support Forum) too and I think it is very very helpful! You don't need to open your notebook, just remove the battery and you will find the service tag information. I am still quite sure that all of you guys have B3...

Can anyone check that out please?

 

there are pictures of the touchpad a couple of pages back in this forum. Just dig into the synaptic touchpad settings and lower the sensitivity

 

Is the lid... glossy?

 

The Trackpad On/Off button is the circle located in the top left corner of the pad itself. Double tap on the circle toggles state. I don't know if light stays ON or goes OFF.

 

So what you are saying is that when you actually viewed the hardware device manager, the SATA devices are hooked up to only Port 0 or Port 1 ? (and there is NO report of Ports 2-5 in use? ) ... hmmmm?!?!

 

This confuses me a little...
"DESCRIPTION: Mobile Intel(R) HD Graphics / DESCRIPTION: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730"

so this is a comparison of your New machine Intel Graphics vs your OLD SB (5730) machine
(generated Monday, January 31, 2011) ?...
-- sorry for being so dense

 

I think what he is saying is that the dv6t only can have one HD and one ODD, so it uses only 2 of the ports. So EVEN if it DID have the defective B2 chipset it wouldn't be affected because it wouldn't be utilizing the ports that are affected.

Now, from what I am reading and my intuition is that these new models do not have the B2 chipset. But I have no proof. This latest post seems to indicate that it is not the defective B2 chipset.

 

That may (or may not) be what he is saying/meant, but the situation IS that Ports 0/1 are 6Gb/s, and are the only two that are EXCLUDED from possible problems. The 3Gb/s ports, Ports 2-5, are suspect... not necessarily faulty, but suspect. It is NOT just a matter of using only two ports... it is a matter of only using Ports 0/1 ... unless some other remedy is also employed ...