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    *HP dv6t Quad Edition (4XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by vinodkk1, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. Crimsoft

    Crimsoft Newbie

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    Hmm... that's what I thought City Pig, but then again, my knowledge of laptop GPU's is pretty limited - I'm still trying to understand the hierarchy. My understanding was that the 260M was a pretty high end card, whereas the 6570 was more of a mid-high end.

    Granted though the 6570 is paired with the i7, but I would think the other setup for still outperform the HP's for gaming purposes.
     
  2. Althernai

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    What does it win? The architecture is Ye Olde G92b (i.e. it's almost the same as the 8800's from 2007) and the process technology is a full node behind the current one (55nm vs 40nm). It was considered high end because it had a 256-bit memory bus, but the memory is GDDR3 which means that a 128-bit GDDR5 card matches it now: the bandwidth is 60.8GB/s vs. 57.6GB/s for the 6570M. On the other hand, it can only manage 462GFlops whereas the 6570M does 520GFlops. It might be a bit faster in some situations, but at the cost of more than twice the heat and no modern features, it's really not worth it. The 6570M is the better card.
     
  3. City Pig

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    It's actually faster in the VAST majority of games. Also, the 6570M is a renamed 5770M, so it's not exactly new either. Even the much more powerful 5830M struggles against a 260M in terms of gaming performance.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-260M.14559.0.html
     
  4. FMruss

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    Gosh, I am still going back and forth on this system - got it configured with 8 gigs ram, 2720qm, 6570 gpu, 640 hdd backlit keyboard all for $934! with the $500 off coupon versus sager 150s with 2630, 8 ram, 460 gtx for $1209 - (well the HP system is about $1025 with tax and recyling fee for CA). (Upps 1334 with win 7 and intel 6300 wifi). Having the 460 and sb will bulllet proof you for at least 4-5 years than the HP which u will be tempted to cahnge out with 1 1/2 years. But new goodie laptops are on the horizon anyway (Ivy Bridge and Haswell- Haswell and newer GPUS in mid-late 2012 will be almost double CPU/GPU performance) - I should just temporize myself in sharing my dv6t quad with my daughter- we have a i7-950 desktop too - sooo I have to control my impulse buying for these very tempting laptops - (Maybe I should paydown my student load of $9000 that I pay $330 interest per year?)
     
  5. turned2black

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    I got the e-mail saying my dv6t QE had shipped. I will post a "first impressions" review when I receive it.
     
  6. chops386

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    Hi guys,

    I'm pretty new to this forum but just wanted to share my latest purchase

    HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
    • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    • 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM (2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up
    to 2.9 GHz
    • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6570 graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    • FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • 160GB (Solid State Drive Flash Module)
    • No Additional Office Software
    • No additional security software
    • High Capacity 6-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 6.75 hours of battery life +++
    • 15.6" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366x768)
    • No TouchScreen (includes HP TrueVision Webcam)
    • SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN
    • Backlit Keyboard with HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
    • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    Total came out to $1083 after taxes

    Thoughts, anyone?
     
  7. nsdjoe

    nsdjoe Notebook Enthusiast

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    My DV6TQE w/ 2720QM just got here. This one was my first order with the smaller coupon and I didn't get it with the ATI 6570. When the $500 coupon came out I re-ordered the same specs but with the 6570, that one should be here soon and I *plan* on returning the non-6570, but only if the battery life isn't killed by the discrete graphics. (Note I actually tried to cancel the first order since it hadn't shipped yet but they wouldn't let me.)

    A couple quick points:

    1M digits of SuperPi in 12 seconds (that's 4 seconds faster than my desktop Q6600 @ 3.2GHz.

    Idles on battery with half brightness at around 9W, or good for about 6.5 hours of battery life with the extended 6-cell. I imagine the 9-cell will provide 8 hours or more.
     
  8. Bravoexo

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    @nsdjoe, real world....nope. 4-5hrs is more likely w/ the HD6570 i meant. Well, if you swap the battery, I guess you'll get 8-9 on the dv6.
     
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    this does have switching graphics correct?
     
  10. nsdjoe

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    At the moment, no. With the ATI card installed, the built-in Intel card doesn't show up in device manager. What's not clear is whether it can be re-enabled in BIOS somehow (can someone clear this up? I will for sure when mine is delivered).

    The Envy refresh was announced with switchable graphics and (I believe) these same CPUs, so there's a good chance it's coming at some point.
     
  11. turned2black

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    How is the screen nsdjoe? I know the resolution is terrible, but how is the quality of the screen?
     
  12. nsdjoe

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    Very bright, pretty good color. But on a majority white screen (like Outlook which I have up currently) there's a definite red bias. Messing with the Intel color settings I haven't yet been able to fix it. It's like it needs a color temperature adjustment.
     
  13. Gowing

    Gowing Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can someone please play Civ V on this and post a link to the YouTube video? I'm looking forward to knowing what my commutes are going to be like! :D Ordered mine Monday ( 2720QM / 8GB / with ATI ) with an estimated 1-29 ship date.
     
  14. City Pig

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    Considering how well Civ V runs on the weaker Select Edition, the Quad Edition won't have any trouble on at least medium.
     
  15. amirtaraj

    amirtaraj Notebook Guru

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    Can any one get the battery life of DV6 with SB during normal tasks like Web browsing and watching movie etc.
    Also how is the heat and temperature range? with 6 cell battery
     
  16. dennys09

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    I ordered my laptop on Jan 17th. I'm wondering how long it will take for me to get it. I have estimated build time of Jan 27th. I checked my order status yesterday and it says that my order is in production. Just wondering what experience did other people have. Did they wait till estimated build date or did they ship earlier?

    my config:
    dv6t Quad Ed
    • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    • 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.3 GHz
    • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6570 graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    • FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • 640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    • No Additional Office Software
    • No additional security software
    • High Capacity 6-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 6.75 hours of battery life +++
    • 15.6" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366x768)
    • No TouchScreen (includes HP TrueVision Webcam)
    • LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support
    • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
    • Backlit Keyboard with Fingerprint Reader
    • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    i got it for $1017 with tax and shipping included. i had a $500 coupon. plus i think Discover will give me an extra 5% because i also bought it thru their merchant program.
     
  17. turned2black

    turned2black Notebook Consultant

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    I ordered mine on the 12th and it should be here on Monday(24th).
     
  18. panthermark

    panthermark Notebook Consultant

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    I finally re-ordered mine yesterday. I'll send the dv6-i5 I ordered on 1/4/11 back when the new one comes.

    dv6t Quad Ed
    • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    • 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM (2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.9 GHz
    • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6570 graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    • FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • 640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    • No Additional Office Software
    • No additional security software
    • One 6 Cell and One 9 Cell Lithium-Ion Battery
    • 15.6" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366x768)
    • TouchScreen with HP TouchSmart's intuitive multi-touch applications (includes HP TrueVision Webcam)
    • Blu-ray player & Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD burner
    • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
    • Backlit Keyboard with HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader


    I've been playing with the touchpad and it is growing on me a bit. But there are still a few issues. I really like the touch screen, and I'm now really tempted to order an actual touch screen monitor....this was after I hooked up my dv6 to my TV via the HDMI cable and went extended desktop to watch the NBA on TNT online. It would be really cool to be able to drag windows from one screen to another by touch.
     
  19. turned2black

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    Looks like mine will arrive today. Left China on the 19th, will arrive on my doorstep on the 21st. Not bad "standard shipping."
     
  20. nsdjoe

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    Haven't watched any movies yet but my 2720qm w/ integrated graphics took 3 hours to get to 50% last night at half brightness and casual web surfing. Based on my usual 8-10W of discharge (as reported by RMClock), 6-7 hours should be about right for web usage. Probably as high as 8 hours of straight idling.

    I ordered mine on 1/10 and had an estimated build date of 1/20, but it arrived on the 19th. Think I may have just gotten lucky.
     
  21. T2050

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    Can someone provide numbers on ATi 6570 overclocking in this laptop.

    Also, download and open CPU-Z and post a few screenshots would be nice.

    Is there anyway to undervolt the new Sandy Bridge processors?
     
  22. jamezr

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    So you are saying under normal web surfing and the like you are getting about 5-6 hours battery life? That is awesome! I might order a DV6T quad today!
     
  23. nsdjoe

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    That is correct but note that this is without the discrete graphics card. I have a second DV6TQE w/ATI coming hopefully next week and I"ll be able to report on its battery life too.
     
  24. po1son

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    I received my dv6 today. Ordered 1/10 and it shipped 1/19. Arrived around 5pm 1/21. I also chose 5-7 business day shipping, but it arrived within 2. Specs: 2630QM, 6570m, 9-cell battery, Blu-ray.

    [​IMG]

    Idle:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    I bought another one with: 2720QM, 6570m, 9-cell, DVD for $60 less, so I am going to RMA this one once the second arrives.
     
  25. T2050

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    I see that with Sandy Bridge, the voltage can be read by CPU-Z, which was not possible with the previous generation.

    Is it possible to use RM-Clock or Throttle Stop, etc, to undervolt the CPU?
     
  26. amirtaraj

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    Its really good that too with a quad core which really makes me to get one soon ;)
    Can any one tell with discrete graphics, if there was a switchable thing then it would have been a great deal
     
  27. michial

    michial Notebook Guru

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    Just a tip if anyone is wanting an Envy SandyBridge. Buy the 2630qm dv6 or dv7 from Costco.com. There are a few different builds but you can try out the computer for 3 whole months and return it for a full refund shipping is free and refunded if you return or you can return to a local Costco. I'm sure the envys will be out before may. The staff at Costco encourage using their return policy. I've tried out several computers over the years. Their builds are a good deal and they tack on an extra year warranty too. No restock. I tried out 3 in one month once. They didn't care at all.
     
  28. punchwalk

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    I just got a new dv6t yesterday. I'm not particularly pleased so far and am thinking of returning it.

    Issues:
    1. Trackpad is horrendous nearly to the point of being unusable. I'm glad I have a bluetooth mouse but frustrated that I have to rely so heavily on it.
    2. Display panel is mediocre at best. Poor contrast performance results in dark colors and blacks being *very* washed out. Wish there'd been a higher res option too, but the lack of quality is a much larger detractor.
    3. Battery life is mediocre as well, no more than 2.25 hours of light-medium internet browsing. Stream videos and you'll be lucky to get more than 1.5 hours. This might be less of a problem if the power adapter wasn't so big and clunky.
    4. There's the usual issue of manufacturer bloatware and no option for OS install media, but this is hardly an HP specific thing, so I won't go into detail.
     
  29. panthermark

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    1. The trackpad gets better once you get use to it and update some drivers. I'm waiting for another $500 coupon so I can order a dv7tqe and try that out for a few weeks. The new trackpad may make my touch screen useless.
    2. Yeah...the resolution is just "OK".
    3. Yup...the battery can go in a hurry. Opt for the 9 cell.
    4. Bloatware sucks...
     
  30. punchwalk

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    I suppose I could get used to this trackpad. But I would've rather had the non-gesture-supporting trackpad on my 2006 laptop than this. The fact that the buttons are part of the track surface is just bad design in my opinion. Trying to right-click a specific area on the screen is an exercise in frustration almost every time. I'm also of the opinion that input devices done right don't make you think, "I guess I could get used to this after a month or two if I *have* to."

    And again while the resolution is just OK, it's the panel quality with which I'm truly disappointed.

    To all out there considering this computer, I'd wait for the Envy to get SandyBridge and see how it prices out.
     
  31. T2050

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    Just got mine a couple of hours ago (pre-assemabled model), I couldn't wait for any other models from HP or any other manufacturer. I got 10% of the RRP price so fairly please about it.
    Will throw an extra 4GB stick in it next week, prices on those modules are good now.

    HP DV-4006TX

    Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64
    Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM • 2.0 GHz
    4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 (1 x 4 GB)
    750 GB SATA (5400 rpm)
    SATA optical drive: LightScribe SuperMulti DVD±R/RW with Double Layer Support
    39.6 cm (15.6") diagonal High-Definition LED HP BrightView Display
    ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 6570 Graphics (1 GB DDR5 dedicated)
    802.11 b/g/n
    Bluetooth® wireless networking
    6-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) battery
    Argento Blush
     
  32. martin96

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    can anyone post some benchmarks of just cause 2, black ops, gta 4, mafia 2, starcraft 2, and hot pursuit? will this laptop run these games at 1080p at medium settings at around 30fps? thank you
     
  33. outsidah

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    I received my custom built DV6 and I have to say that I am pretty impressed so far. Much better notebook than the Envy I tried out before this one.

    Main components:

    • 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM (2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.9 GHz
    • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6570 graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    • 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • 640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection

    Computer runs nice and smooth and has dealt nicely with everything I have thrown at it so far. I am seeing some folks mention a few issues with it so I will address those.

    1) Clickpad - it does suck, in particular since I was using a Macbook Pro as my last notebook. Once you spend some time with it though, you learn to deal with it as it could be WAY better but it does work ok.
    2) Screen - decent, really doesn't look bad.
    3) Battery life - way better than the old Envy i7 battery life. I have to use it more to give this a fair rating though.

    Here is the WEI:

    [​IMG]

    3DMark11:

    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/489819
     
  34. AddictionsolA

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    Well, when my money from my canceled envy 14 arrives in my bank im ordering one of these, if there aren't any gaming benchmarks up by the time it gets here I'll put some up.
     
  35. martin96

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    also would this outperform an envy 15?
    thanks
     
  36. ghostbustersin

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    And the WEI shows you have 1Tb Hard Drive?
    Plus which Dv6 has this primary Monitor Resolution of 1920x1080?

    Did i miss something?
    The WEI Score with any 7200RPM drive with 16Mb Cache should well be over 6.5, i guess!
     
  37. Devenox

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    Would be on same level, but considering the envy 15 didn't have a sandy bridge update would make it faster in CPU intensive games.
    The GPU performance should be around the envy 15 level.

    Nice 3DMark 11 score, did you overclock it? How much can you get from stock 600/800 to ... ?
     
  38. T2050

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    I have just done some quick overclocking on my 6570. The good news is the memory will clock excellent.

    With MSI Afterburner, I took mine to the max the slider would allow up from 800 to max of 1040MHz, yeilds 66.6 GB/s bandwidth, yeeha :D

    The core however did go much past stock :(
    I went for 1100 on the memory, but ended up with a screen of grey bars.

    Maybe more tweaking, core / memory balance needed :confused2:
     
  39. Devenox

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    The GPU lacks brute force (400 shaders)
    Overclocking core would be more efficient than memory.
    Anyway 1000mhz+ is nice. Are you able to get 650mhz stable on core?

    4830M (envy 15, which I have)
    Is a different story, it have enough shaders, but it lacks GDDR5 and as a consequent memory bandwidth. Seems it's now the other way around. :p

    How much do yet @ 3DMark11 with OC ?
     
  40. FMruss

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    Finally sprung for a clevo/malibal p151/HM almost at the same price point of an HP DV6T- the decision that tipped me over is the upgradeability/price factor- spend an extra $150 for the GTX 460 and the ease you can upgrade the CPU/GPU on this - without having to worry to fork over another 1000 in 2-3 years. The 7200 RPM 500 gig HDD does not hurt either.
     
  41. Devenox

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    Totally different class. Weight, thickness, efficiency, etc.
    Upgrading GPU and CPU is not possible in notebooks...
    Unless you replace a 2.0ghz with a 2.3ghz cpu and call it an upgrade, than there upgradeable. Ivy bridge will not run on your motherboard, other socket/chipset.
     
  42. City Pig

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    Actually, IB will probably use the same socket, though you are right that the chipset may not be compatible.
     
  43. Devenox

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    Chipset is not compatible => no upgrade.
    Never buy a notebook because of the point of upgrading (it's minimal to non-existing)
     
  44. outsidah

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    I'll be more than happy to do more benchmarks to whoever needs them and to OC the graphics card. I have to admit I have been out of the PC "modification" scene for awhile so I am not familiar with today's tools.

    If you wouldn't mind providing the link, I'll run it per your specifications (for whoever needs one run).



    I have an external HDD and monitor hooked up right now.

    Last I heard HDD won't go higher than 5.9. Need an SDD to go higher.
     
  45. Devenox

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    Can you run 3DMark 06
    Stock 600/800 and OC (dont know what your max is, but metion it please)

    You have Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and Crysis?
     
  46. teotuf

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    how's the battery life? with normal use or movie watching?
    also which battery are you using the 6-cell or the 9 cell?

    thanks ^_^

    i have no doubt in the performance of this baby, only worried about battery life because of no switchable graphics.
     
  47. outsidah

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    I have both the 6-cell and 9-cell, but have only tested the 6 cell so far. I need to do some "normal" use tests because I've been going around installing/uninstalling stuff instead of just normal usage. I can tell you I had an Envy I7 w/o the switchable graphics and it's already day and night. The envy barely lasted an hour and a half and this went over two during my installs.

    I'll try to provide more feedback on this subject as quickly as I can.

    Downloading 3DMark06 now.

    Stock is 600 - how do I get it to 800 or OC?

    I have Crysis, just have to find it. At the moment all I have loaded is Team Fortress 2.
     
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    outsidah Notebook Enthusiast

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    3DMark06 w/ external display disabled:

    Result
     
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    And overclocked? Let's say 650/1000 (but you can try your own ofcourse)

    That's what I get with my envy 15 (4830M) @ 1366x768
    Note that I used old drivers than, so it should be around 10k now.
    Also note the SM2, SM3/HDR and CPU score.
    CPU score is drastically higher (from 3200 to 5000)
    GPU is a little behind, but considering my GPU was overclocked, the 6570M should be slightly faster
    http://content.hwigroup.net/images/usersys/benchmarks/012209-2.jpg
     
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    he means 600 for core, 800 for memory - those are the stock frequencies.

    you can try to go as far as you can while not crashing in 3dmark06 - i'm guess it'll be around 750/1000 as the max.
     
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