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    *HP dv6t Quad Edition (4XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by vinodkk1, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. outsidah

    outsidah Notebook Enthusiast

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    I downloaded AMD GPU Clock Tool v0.9.26.0... which is what I think you all are using. I don't think the drivers HP provided are compatible with this yet and AMD's site doesn't have for my specific card.

    This is what I get when I open the tool:

    [​IMG]
     
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    can't you change the core and memory values and than click 'set clocks'?
     
  3. Redhat

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    FYI on the complaints on the touchpads
    I think this is not an HP specific issue but a problem with the new multi touch laptop touchpads in general …

    Ive had both a new Lenovo & Toshiba with multi touch laptop touchpad’s and both equally sucked …there just do not work well

    I ever found using Win7 XP mode the old XP app would not work correctly with the touchpad’s on either laptop

    Bottom if you can go in to the multi touch touchpads driver and turn multi touch OFF
     
  4. outsidah

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    It works, thought it might not since it couldn't read my default values.

    700/900 results:

    Result
     
  5. outsidah

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    System crashed at 750/1000 on two attempts.
     
  6. roastedpork

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    Probably more than the GPU can handle, my max is like 650 / 900.
     
  7. jdbobo

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    Wow. I have a new HP pavillion dv6tqe with ATI 6570M. I really thought switchable graphics was going to be supported on this machine. I would not have chosen the 6570M without swichable graphics support since battery life is important to me.

    When configuring the dv6tqe, the option for the ATI 6570M says: "AMD RadeonTM HD 6500M Series simplify your life at work and at play with its dynamic graphics switching technology. It switches seamlessly between power saving integrated graphics when on-the-road and high-powered discrete graphics when plugged in. "

    So I have every reason to think that it would be supported. However, there is no option in the BIOS at the F.05 level nor does intel graphics show up under device manager.

    I realize this is a new processor/discrete graphics card combo and it might take HP a little while for hp to enable switchable graphics.... that would be fine with me. But I am very concerned if this may _never_ be supported. Anybody have any idea?

    As a side question, don't dv6t or dv6tse lines support switchable graphics? Seems weird that would go away...
     
  8. AddictionsolA

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    I think in coming driver updates it'll be supported, like you said the gpu/cpu combo is new and ATI hasn't written drivers to support it yet.
     
  9. T2050

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    That might be true to a certain extent, but what it lacks in brute force... It now has double the memory bandwidth, and that speaks volumes.

    The old HD 5650 was a meager 25 GB/s, now the 6570 takes it to 50 GB/s.

    GDDR5 overclocking is more forgiving than the pervious GDDR3.
    Pushing the HP video memory to 1000MHz is no problem at all for this particular GDDR5, for an effective 64 GB/s !

    An Example is Unigine Heaven Benchmark. Was once very choppy to run on a HD5650 and terrible to watch. Now on a HD 6570 runs pleasantly enough to keep looping.

    Bottom line is, big memory bandwidth is going to push up frame rates, and smooth out those minimum frame rates in those difficult areas when gaming.

    Check this out, Unigine Heaven Benchmark running an ATI HD 6570 @ 800MHz core / 1000MHz memory:

    [​IMG]

    Unigine Heaven Benchmark v2.1
    FPS:18.4
    Scores:464
    Min FPS:9.0
    Max FPS:50.3

    Hardware
    Binary: Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1500 Release May 21 2010
    Operating system: Windows 7 (build 7600) 64bit
    CPU model: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz
    CPU flags: 1995MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 SSE42 HTT
    GPU model: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570 8.771.1.0 1024Mb

    Settings
    Render: direct3d11
    Mode: 1366x768 fullscreen
    Shaders: high
    Textures: high
    Filter: trilinear
    Anisotropy: 4x
    Occlusion: enabled
    Refraction: enabled
    Volumetric: enabled
    Replication: disabled
    Tessellation: normal
     

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  10. Devenox

    Devenox Notebook Evangelist

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    Nice results (and oc!)
    Seems like in the DV7 section some run @ 1V instead of 0.9V ?
    Can you manually change voltage?
     
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    What battery life do you get with which battery?
     
  12. humblebeast

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    HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
    • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    • 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2820QM (2.3 GHz, 8MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.4 GHz
    • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6570 graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    • FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • 640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    • No Additional Office Software
    • No additional security software
    • 6-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 6.0 hours of battery life +++
    • 15.6" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366x768)
    • No TouchScreen (includes HP TrueVision Webcam)
    • SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN
    • Backlit Keyboard with HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
    • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
    Estimated build date: February 2, 2011
    Grand total $1,163.68 after tax
     
  13. jdbobo

    jdbobo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Brand new machine...no battery life experience yet...i'll do some basic battery life tests tonight...
     
  14. baw2345

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    Hey guys so I just got mine over the weekend. After playing with it for a couple days, I can really say that this machine is a monster. Now I'm not a tech guy by any means, but I have researched this laptop. The only way I could overload my processor was by config AE's multiprocessing setting where I rendered a HD clip while continuing to work in PS, AE and 3dsMax.
    My battery life on the 6-cell was between 3 to 4 hours but I was while I was testing my processor so I had roughly 7 intensive apps running and internet. With the 9-Cell processor it bumped it up to like 5-ish hrs.
    Cons: No switchable graphics; I had an issue where it switched over and stopped using the ATi card, It took me several hrs to get the card CCC to even open. The touchpad: I prev tested the 1st Envy 15, and I loved the touchpad. This one on the other hand; doesn't seem to be as functional. USB: the USB port near the fingerprint reader causes me to have to force the port inside, like it wasn't put together properly. Resolution: I don't like being limited to the 1366 x 768 res when the graphics card can handle it.
    All in all, I am not too happy with a lot of things on here but I do love it's performance so I may still keep it.
     
  15. baw2345

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    dv6t Quad Ed
    2nd generation Intel i7-2720QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.3 GHz | 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570 |8GB DDR3 | 640GB 7200RPM HDD | 15.6" diagonal High Definition BrightView Display (1366x768) | TouchScreen

    I'm not really a gamer so I don't test games (I think I may try NFS Hot Pursuit), but if you want me to run CPUz or some other app to test my hardware, I don't mind. I just don't know what I'm looking for so I just downloaded a couple graph widgets on my desktop that show me my graphics card , processor and internet speeds.
     
  16. jamezr

    jamezr Notebook Consultant

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    Does yours have the backlit keyboard? I am really impressed with the battery life you are getting! I am leaning towards getting one but I want the back lit keyboard.......Thanks for paosting the info for us! It really helps! :)
     
  17. jdbobo

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    I have the backlit keyboard. It's very cool but I don't think I'll use it that much. It comes as an option bundled with the fingerprint reader for $25.
     
  18. punchwalk

    punchwalk Newbie

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    I'm in the same boat except my 6-cell battery doesn't even last 3 hours (maybe 2.6-2.7 tops). I'm wondering if there's an after-market/3rd-party 1440x900 panel that could be installed in place of this one (I seriously doubt as the dimensions would have to precisely compatible with this chassis). I agree that the performance is superb but I wonder if it still would be with a higher resolution display. 1366 x 768 probably doesn't require much heavy lifting by the GPU.
     
  19. roastedpork

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    I'd also be interested with my dv6, maybe even 1600 x 900.
     
  20. City Pig

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    Ah, so they really are waiting on the driver!

    The reason it doesn't have switchable graphics is simply that HP knows that AMD is working on something and, rather than using the system they use on other laptops, they decided that AMD's upcoming Dynamic Switchable Graphics would be better suited to do the job. Don't worry, AMD should release the new driver very soon, possibly even in just a few days. :)
     
  21. T2050

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    Does your HP Pavilion dv6t SE - Intel Core i5 450M with 5650 have a switchable driver?

    If not, then I will doubt that HP will provide one for the new Sandy Bridge with what is actually a 5650 (GDDR3) renamed to 6570 (GDDR5)?
     
  22. jamezr

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    Ordered mine today! Should get it by Feb 7th.... I already have a OCZ 120 SSD to put in it! ;-)
    HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
    * • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * • 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM (2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
    * • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6570 graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    * • FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    * • FREE Upgrade to 750GB 5400RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart
    * • No Additional Office Software
    * • No additional security software
    * • High Capacity 6-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 6.75 hours
    * • 15.6" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366x768)
    * • No TouchScreen (includes HP TrueVision Webcam)
    * • SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    * • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
    * • Backlit Keyboard with HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
    * • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
     
  23. baw2345

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    You know I think it was cause I had it set to Power saver. When I switched it to High Performance settings, the battery drained in about 2.5 hrs. I extended it to an external monitor and it is able to get 1600 x 900, but I want it on my laptop screen. So is there a website for the displays?
    Also, have you tried disabling your touchpad? I haven't been able to get that to work yet...btw, yes it does have the backlit keypad, mine has typically stayed on since I got it
     
  24. markmark1

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    Does anyone know the RAM specs? I only got the 6gb and want to have a 4gb chip waiting when mine arrives...
     
  25. City Pig

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    First of all, yes, it does have switchable graphics.

    Second, HP's 5650 uses standard DDR3.

    Third, if HP put that note there, it's going to get switchable graphics. Even better, you probably won't even have to wait on HP to modify the driver. AMD's answer to Optimus, Dynamic Switchable Graphics, will be built into the official driver. All that's required is hardware (and BIOS) support for switchable graphics.
     
  26. outsidah

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    [​IMG]
     
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    Try disabling it by double tapping where the light is. It works fine for me.
     
  28. ghostbustersin

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    Are you sure, the $200 is worth the extra 200Mhz on 2720QM than 2630QM? And you mean to say, you can presently run 3Ds Max, PS5, AE and render a HD Clip all at the same time and without feeling a bit of lag? If that's true, then this is really a monster! :D

    And about the battery life, can you test it with 6cell and 9cell while playing a HD Video at 50% brightness or so and see for how much time they both survive?
     
  29. turned2black

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    I'm going back and forth on whether or not I like this thing. I hated it at first, but after some initial getting use to I must say it is not that bad. It's powerful as hell and I'm getting 5 1/2 hours out of the 9-cell battery without any tweaking. I bumped up the saturation a bit on the screen and find it to be much better now. One thing that will not ever get better is this damn touch pad. Terrible and maybe a deal breaker.
     
  30. jamezr

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    I have heard multiple people complain about the trackpad...I use a bluetooth mouse so it won't be an issue for me.....
     
  31. Devenox

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    200mhz baseclock, but 500mhz when turbo is used
     
  32. panthermark

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    The touchpad is "OK". The right click button really helps.

    Say...what was the answer on the RAM specs? (Was there a pic posted? Maybe I can't see it at work).

    I would also like to have a stick ready and waiting when my new laptop gets here.

    I'm
     
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    I just ordered a DV6T on 01/22/11 after having my envy 14 w/radiance cancelled. :( I thought that the DV6T would have switchable graphics so I only ordered a normal 6 cell battery. After I read in the forums that the driver was not available and my battery life would be pretty poor, I tried to order another one through HP but I was told they are not available yet. Does anyone know if another source of batteries is available? I don't know if this model would accept the same as previous ones. Thanks.
     
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    Most of what I have read on this forum the battery life is around 4-5 hours with normal web surfing use....
     
  35. jdbobo

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    Micron PC3-10700 Part Number:16JSF51264HZ-1G4D1
     
  36. City Pig

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    First of all, lol. It uses the same batteries as most of their laptops since March. HP's support is just horrifying. :p

    Second, you might not need it. No manufacturer has SB/Radeon systems with switchable graphics yet; they're all waiting for AMD's Dynamic Switchable Graphics to be released in their drivers. This should come soon, possibly even tomorrow. :)
     
  37. jdbobo

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    The 6 cell "flush" battery for the dv6tqe is MU06, the 9 cell "oversized" is MU09. Google and you will find plenty of options for purchase.
     
  38. jgunn

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    Thanks for the information.
     
  39. panthermark

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    Thank you very much.....
     
  40. jdbobo

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    HP is also using Samsung PC3-10700 Part Number:M471B5273CH0-CH9
     
  41. markmark1

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    Please excuse the noob question. Is pc3-10700 different to pc3-10600? Or is it just a rounding difference in the calculation of 1333 ram? Would ram from a different manufacturer of the same speed be compatible with what is in the HP?
     
  42. jdbobo

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    I just ran some power measurements on a kill-o-watt. These measurements were taken through the ac adapter with the battery removed -- actual draw on a real battery would be a bit less since there are losses through the ac adapter.

    power saver profile
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    24 watts - low load, lid shut, external monitor running 1920x1200
    25 watts - low load lcd dim
    27 watts - low load lcd bright
    34 watts - lcd bright - playing a dvd (not blue ray)
    36 watts - streaming hd video lcd bright


    HP recommends profile
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    28 watts - low load, lcd bright
    40 watts - streaming hd video lcd bright

    High performance profile
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    35 watts - low load, lcd bright
    48 watts - streaming hd video lcd bright

    All these measurements were with discrete graphics on (since we don't have switchable yet... will be interesting to see the savings that gives)

    Machine measured: HP dv6tqe with i7-2630 cpu, ATI radeon 6570, 8GB mem, all streaming done over wireless N.

    For reference, 6 cell battery is labeled at 55 watt hours, 9 cell is labeled at 93 watt hours.
     
  43. jdbobo

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    Yes, they are the same. pc3-10600 is the correct name. pc3-10700 appears to be misnomer spit out by the CPU-Z program used to get the part numbers.
     
  44. jdbobo

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    They are the same. pc3-10600 is the correct name. pc3-10700 appears to be a misnomer spit out by the CPU-Z program that was used to get the part numbers. Just make sure you get laptop memory (SODIMM).
     
  45. T2050

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    The i7-2820QM is monster CPU for such a small platform, taking into account the DV6 cooling is tiny.
    With a i7-2630QM, 90c is common place, and from what I gather, the CPU will drop down to 35 W under full load to sustain ~90c temperture.

    Please post your temps, when you get it, under load with prime95? Download HWMonitor and check what wattage it drops to while running prime95?
     
  46. City Pig

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    Both CPUs have the same TDP, so there shouldn't be a huge difference in temps (especially at idle). An extra 300MHz is rarely going to really affect temps.

    Also, I think you should look into those temps. If it's going above 90C commonly, something's probably wrong.
     
  47. amirtaraj

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    Does running external monitor with HDMI use the discrete graphic card or the Intel HD? Coz running at 24W
     
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    How big are the losses with the AC adapter? With my Intel graphics DV6t and per RMClock, while running on battery I can get as low as 8W with the LCD on dimmest and closer to 6W with the lid closed (note that these are with no running programs and are just meant as a baseline - with mild websurfing I generally get between 9 and 10 watts of discharge). Can you go into the battery section on RMClock and see what is the lowest discharge rate you can get with the 6570?
     
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    I have the same question. (This is my first laptop).

    Should I order 10600, 10660, or 10666?

    Does it matter?
     
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    HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
    • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    • 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2820QM (2.3 GHz, 8MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.4 GHz
    • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6570 graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    • 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • 160GB (Solid State Drive Flash Module)
    • No Additional Office Software
    • No additional security software
    • One 6 Cell and One 9 Cell Lithium-Ion Battery
    • 15.6" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366x768)
    • No TouchScreen (includes HP TrueVision Webcam)
    • SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN
    • Backlit Keyboard with HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
    • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    Total is $1750 after CA taxes. Good deal?
     
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