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thanks, tried it, i went and pulled the battery after shutting down after the flash and it reverted to defaults so it didn't keep the powerxpress . If only musho would edit the clock speeds on this custom bios..

 

I was wondering if that would work.

I find that if you're going to OC the APU, you might as well get a loaded bios with the safe GPU OC because there is no way to flash your OC on the APU, know what I mean?

Camolil's is the way to go but you'll make an additional startup service. ATT ftw.

 

Does ATT start clock itself w/o priming it.(maybe other work 2, not sure since fix mode now)

 

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DOH! Wish you could stack coupons. I have a single use coupon, but it's worse than the $75 one LOL

 

You know the HP dv6z's are hot when you can't get a decent coupon for them.

 

I saw this but at 9.8 inches it's way narrower than the laptop. I tried another cooler I had laying around that was about that size, The feet on the laptop straddled the cooler, it was somewhat unstable and it kept sliding off.

 

Okay. So I tried the bios out that your talking about and I could not figure out how to enable the discrete card. Could some one please state exactly what options you changed in the bios to enable it. Also, If you enable the discrete card to run does it disable you from switching to the igpu via ccc software or would you have to go back into the bios and to enable it? Thanks

 

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No, it does not disable you from switching to IGPU. Basically you turn on dedicated and it only uses that for everything or you turn on the IGPU and it uses that for everything... I'm running benchmarks atm. Once I'm done I'll fuss with the BIOS and do a quick write up unless someone else does before me.

I think dreamonic describes it pretty well here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...xxx-series-owners-lounge-518.html#post8295415

 

Thanks HT your the man. So if you set the bios to use the dgpu all the time how can you use the igpu? by keeping an application set to powersaving in ccc? or would you have to go back into the bios and enable dynamic to do that?

 

One you do the benchmarks wing, lemme know. I'll do the same ones with my overclocks, see how much difference there is.

 

Cant get fix mode to be stable, frozen few minute after windows. Gonna go for a clean install.

 

OK! Although I will still run it when I turn on fixed mode.

Can you run at 2.4GHz CPU 780/880 GPU? That's what I ran mine at. My GPU can't do much better than that. Looks like you got lucky with the vRAM.

Here's the benchmarks I tested, settings, and links to the benchmarks. Some games you will need full versions. Obviously if don't have them don't worry. Using Musho's F.21 BIOS with GPU @ 780/880.

3DMark06
Stock Settings 1024x768
3DMark 10093
SM2 3749
SM3 4603
CPU 3398

3DMark Vantage
Stock P Settings 1280x1024
3DMark 6703
GPU 6301
CPU 8285

3DMark11
Stock P Settings 1280x720
3DMark 1577
Graphics 1438
Physics 3355
Combined 1475

HAWX 2 Benchmark
1920x1080 - click to see settings
Avg 59
Max 79

Crysis SP Demo
Benchmark Tool
Crysis DirectX 9
1920x1080 Medium Settings 3 runs
Avg 37.6
Min 22.7
Max 50.7

Crysis DirectX 10
1920x1080 Medium Settings 3 runs
Avg 45.9
Min 33.4
Max 51.3

Just Cause 2 (Full Game)
Demo is here, believe there is a benchmark in there.
1920x1080 - click to see settings
Dark Tower 35.1
Desert Sunrise 52.6
Concrete Jungle 26.8

Stalker Pripyat
DX9: Preset - Medium / Renderer - Full Dynamic Lighting / Video mode 1920x1080
DX10: Preset - medium / renderer - Enhanced Full Dynamic Lighting (DX10) / Video mode 1920x1080
DX9 Day Avg 54.8
DX9 Night Avg 59.8
DX9 Rain Avg 66.7
DX9 Sunshafts Avg 54.1
DX10 Day Avg 44.0
DX10 Night Avg 40.5
DX10 Rain Avg 44.6
DX10 Sunshafts Avg 28.1

Resident Evil 5 Benhcmark
1920x1080 - click to see settings
DX9 Variable Bench 60.0
DX9 Fixed Bench 50.8
DX10 Variable Bench 52.6
DX10 Fixed Bench 48.4

Street Fighter IV Benchmark
1920x1080 - click to see settings
FPS 77.0
Score 9197

Trackmania Nations United (Full Game, might be in free version)
Settings - Quality / Aniso 16x
720p 40.6
1080p 35.2

DiRT 2 Demo
Settings - 1080p Medium
Avg 34.1
Min 25.6

Metro 2033 (Full game)
Benchmark Tool is in the Metro 2033 directory
DX9 Avg 33.3
DX10 Avg 29.3
DX11 Avg 26.7

Crysis 2 (Full Game)
Benchmark Tool - "Performance" setting, DX9 and DX11 runs, requires DX11 patch
DX9 Times Square 30.1
DX9 Downtown 28.7
DX9 Central Park 29.1
DX11 Times Square 21.6
DX11 Downtown 16.9
DX11 Central Park 16.2

 

One thing interesting that has come up...I tried switching around memory sticks in my e-450 lenovo. When I swapped out the 1333 for the 1600, I got a visually HUGE improvement in the Kumbustor benchmark, I mean instead of frozen flag frames and jerky rotating ball images, I had near fluid performance throughout the benchmark...I'm talking night and day difference....HOWEVER...
when the benchmark completed, the score was indicating that I had LOST around 25 percent of my performance...

Since I'm one of those guys who trusts his eyes (especially when the difference was sooooooo dramatic) I'm concluding that there is a basic incompatibility between the kumbustor bench proggie, and the amd apu architecture, at least as far as the e-450 is concerned.

I then rebooted and fired up wow, and without changing ANY of my previous settings, I went from seeing 33/34 up to mid 50's fps in general game play;, to mid 40's all the way up low 100's ....and this in populated instances (in this case Scarlet Monastery, where my char was partied with two other chars...

I know, I know, the spec sheet says 1333 max for the e-450...well, someone didn't get the word. I made absolutely NO other changes to the system, or its settings other than swapping out the memory to the adata stuff I had bought before to test in the dv6z (which showed no improvement whatsoever btw, as my memory was not read correctly by the hp bios.)

It reminds me of something an instructor once told me loooong ago about trying to troubleshoot digital electronics circuits..."First you get a chicken...." to which I replied '? " and then he explained..."sometimes it just boils down to 'voodoo" LOL.

bottom line, I'd test with a few other bench's on an apu system before relying on Kumbustor.

seer

 

after going fixed, saintsrow the 3rd runs smooth, and so does BF3.. and msi afterburner actually allows me to overclock without the black screen. So some better improvements, though still not perfect for me, when i press alt-tab sometimes to go to deskstop, the screen hangs black.. and had a few crashes here and there. Though there could be alot of contributing factors like OC etc. Or could just be on drivers. I went back to 12.1a since 12.1 wasn't that great for me (texture problem in BF3).

 

I also threw some 1600 in my DM1 with the e450 under the premise that it would take.

It didn't take at 1600, but...

Here's my CPU-Z memory tab.

frequency, ~675
FSB 3:20
CL 8
tRCD 8
tRP 8
tRAD 23
tRC 33

 

Well at least you're getting CAS8 instead of 9. And 675 is most likely 667.

 

Leaving CnQ and Thermal enabled seems to cleaned up the stability for me.

 

It is kind of sad they put so much effort on this "dynamic" switch integration, but old fix mode come out more stable (stable but not bug less xD )

I pretty sure it was a software problem, just did clean install again and fine now(hopefully stay so after i put everything back in).

 

when i was benching with 3dmark11 before it was using the 6750m, when i just benched it, it used the 6620g, why is that?
AMD Radeon HD 6620G video card benchmark result - AMD A8-3500M,Hewlett-Packard 358D score: P1568 3DMarks

 

No way, not with a score like that, but I'm sure you know that.

My guess...

If you made the switch while in 3DMark11, it will still use your last selected graphics adapter even though you manually changed it, have to re-run the application for it to read the newly selected GPU.



I haven't had any BSOD's related to CnQ and thermal being disabled yet, been a day and a half straight running. My guess is a mix between the fixed and your OC. And don't enable spread spectrum.

 

Did you right click desktop for switchable graphics and ensure high performance was enabled for 3dmark11?

 

The link shows his dGPU clocks, I put money on my guess.


*EDIT*

Plus, he's running fixed.


Actually, this does it to me as well. Because the display still runs off the 6620G, this would be why - Yes, we are running the dGPU in fixed mode, but the adapter is still going through the 6620G to display what's rendered.

 

So it's saying 6620G, but are the results indicative of the dGPU?

 

this was my 6750m score last week or so
AMD Radeon HD 6750M video card benchmark result - AMD A8-3500M,Hewlett-Packard 358D score: P1912 3DMarks
p1912 on musho's bios

 

Correct.


I just did the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat Benchmark

Here's my results with my current setup:

Preset: Ultra
Renderer: Enhan. full dyn. lighting (DX11)
Video Mode: 1920x1080
Advanced Options: Tessellation ON

Day: 33.2 Avg fps
Night: 30.4 Avg fps
Rain: 31.3 Avg fps
Sun Shafts: 15.5 Avg fps


You gotta remember, or maybe nobody read it, but the dynamic switchable with crossfire only help benching scores, but in actual gaming numbers, holds nothing compared.

I think the iGPU adds around 300 points but watching frames go 9-14-9-14-9-14... Lol

 

this is my oc

Maybe i need to fine tune it some more? i basically looked at others settings and came up with this.

 

Did you test each clock for stability?

 

i honestly have pretty much just set and rolled with them , but now i will test individually .

I would just lock each pstate at a time and run prime95 right?

 

Start getting froze(no BSOD, no eventlog) after tweaking some window setting, zzz hopefully find out what went wrong

Edit: Still froze w/o the program, now idk what is wrong....

 

Yes, more or less. Read and follow here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...overclock-optimization-guide.html#post8247083

 

Cant get it to work, no clue what is wrong ~~ gonna struck with dynamic for a while.

Edit : seem to working now ? crossfinger xxxD

Edit2: so lol, was in dynamic all the way with both of them enabled in bios, fix still no go, what driver you guys using?

Fix mode make software that cant detect dGPU run so much smoother compare to just high performance in dynamic

fixed mode + stock bios, work come on !!!

 

Well, just activated fixed mode and so far so good. No noticeable improvement, but BF3 plays great no issues. And the CoolSense at coolest with thermal and CnQ turned off works too. Fans crank up sooner and full blast or close to full at 80C. I'm good with that.

 

Seem to be now stable, I guess my GPU cant take high mem clock... use to run 770/840 musho...

But disable CnQ leave no clock control option? K10/fusiontweaker work? ( O god, feel like i waste a day on clean install zzzzz)

 

CnQ means no WINDOWS based clock control. K10/FusionTweaker still works.

 

Yup, that's's why you find a good clock, forget the P-States except Boost (disabling it actually adds more stability I found) and run what you want.

I can see people using K10 more because you can profile it for battery use, in which locking it low and not having CnQ enabled would be much better for longer battery use.

 

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I just got two lockups since switching to "fixed". Both times system was basically in idle state, so I know it can't be due to clock speeds.

Also, I just posted 6750m results with and without CrossfireX, at stock and overclocked, as well as dedicated GPU using 1066RAM and single stick of 1600MHz RAM here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...amd-radeon-hd-6750m-benchmarking-results.html

 

No crashes though I hope if you're just running everything stock (but with newest official AMD drivers), right?

EDIT: Just read through that great article you did about Crossfire and overclocking and whatnot! Sounds like Crossfire's just kind of more of a pain than it's worth. I mean the results were as much as 25% faster on paper, but if it stutters....

I've never been sold on this dual GPU stuff. Would just prefer having one faster GPU.

Actually as much as I think Llano's a great deal, I think the same transistors divided up differently would be better. Move those 400 cores over to that GPU instead, so they can be 100% used. Or spend the transistors on more CPU cores and/or more cache.

 

crossfire has potential , it just isnt polished yet. If the igpu had a higher clockspeed, it probably wouldn't choke the 6750m.

Has anyone messed with the other options in video settings of the custom bios ? like the settings for discrete gpu etc

 

HT, what your lock up is?

Mine is just frozen, no BSOD, no event log, no way out except force shut off.

I just flash my 770/840 back on and seem OK. Either the GPU may be sensitive with different clock combo or Camol bios may not be stable with fix mode.

Switching from fix to dynamic in CCC take around 5 sec vice versa. Fix mode is around 10C higher idle for me.

Just a reminder for other, I read about envy trackpad on this thread or some other .
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/563791-definitive-guide-envy-trackpad.html

The 3rd party program works. Loving my 2 finger tap now

Edit : A complain I had for a week. I was thinking why my computer usage with dv6 is kind of sluggish(Not the laptop itself but my behavior usage).
I realize the so called "entertainment notebook" have no multimedia key. So, HP expect us to leave action key mode on..? Say I play game with vent, and someone is loud, I need to use 2 hand to access volume down.

Even my old thinkpad have volume +/- button.

 

My lock up is same as yours. Frozen. No mouse, no signs of life, just screen frozen the way it was when it locked up.

How do you switch to dynamic in CCC again?

Also I seem to lose my K10stat coming out of sleep. Will have to check the service and see if there's a setting I checked or didn't check to make sure it stays active all the time.

 

Just enable both fix and dynamic in advanced bios.

 

Oh, in the BIOS. You said in the CCC (Catalyst Control Center), thought you could do it with software.

Just had another lockup. I was switching between the different modes. I have planned on a complete reinstall of this machine, now might be a good time. Just hate to spend the few hours it takes to get everything back up to snuff.

 

But but but...this is 100% stable at stock clocks, stock bios, newest AMD drivers, right?

 

YES it is!

 

I meant you can software change, but you need to enable both mode in bios


I dont think it is matter of re install, cause that was exactly what i thought yesterday.

Try flash a stock F.21, lock up should go away.

One more thing I notice, Fix mode fan seem/feel to be more aggressive. (Not confirm, and I was moving around)

On dynamic/iGPU even 55C , I wont hear fan
On fix/dGPU 4xC and i hear the fan.

I am saying dGPU make fan more aggressive.(probably have nothing to do with mode {not sure})
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Edit: Ok, switching work fine, unless I have some other program running (depends on luck), CCC may freak out.

 

Ah gotcha. Turned both on now can switch with software. That's nice to have.

And if I flash stock F.21 I'll lose the option for fixed, so it doesn't help. Unless the switchable features "stick" as long as the CMOS isn't reset?