*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

Speaking of that, didn't you have to battery pull after flashing to Camolil's from stock F.21? I had to.

I think hypertek said he tried that, but it didn't hold.

 

yeah when i went from camolil's bios to musho's , i pulled the battery after the flash and it defaulted.. I dont know how it would be if i didn't pull the battery.

 

Every setting stays, I had repeat countless time previously .
Change all you want, setting stays unless cmos reset.

@dreamonic, you mean your bios brick(cap lock blinks) and need to do a battery pull?

I flash camolil fine, I notice 1 thing when you changing setting in camolil bios. Dont use f10 to save and exit, and dont change options too quick, "brick" a few time like that.

Edit: Why you need to do the battery cmos reset?

 

Still locks up even with stock F21 bios with "Fixed" enabled.

 

I've gone through the bios so fast and saved and exited no problems. However, I found out that if you have up to 3 lockups, it does the cap lock flash next restart so you HAVE to do a reset. Maybe it's a safety measure HP put in, not sure.

But this has happened to me on F.18 (I think it was) a couple of times when I was fiddling around with OC's.

 

Man... how you guys getting lock ups?

I know the type you are referring to as well, it's a screen freeze, absolutely no bsod or restart.. just freeze.

I haven't had the issue yet and I'm running 12.1's. I DID install 12.1a AND 12.2 and EACH TIME I used those (separate occasions) they both locked up on me. 12.1's never did once.

Go figure.

 

HT try flash to the musho you used to use, maybe stable that way.

I had "brick" the bios a few times(around 10 actually) now, It just happen everywhere(Amd driver install, fail restart, changing bios option, saving bios option). Fun times

I am on 12.1 aswell. I give up on "performance" driver ~~

 

I was running GPU at 740/840 too, when it has handled 810/910 no problem in the past. I'm running 12.1 (not 12.1a), still the issue.

 

Stable, okay, thank you! This is the PC I'm probably most seriously considering, and now all this talk of lock ups had me scared LOL

I won't be overclocking or dong anything but sticking AMD's newest drivers on each month

 

The lockups are because we're fussing about with unsupported features. And newest drivers aren't really meaning best so far.

 

Hah...

the PCI Latency Timer, I switched to 32.. now don't quote me.. but I noticed things to be... snappier. Idk. I've tried running M92, Madison. Both booted up fine but I'm left with just the 6620g running for Madison and 6750 for M92. M92 was very unstable for me, within 10 seconds it locked up after loading into windows. The HCF - iGPU doesn't allow CCC to integrate with it. So you get no menu or icon, but drivers still work.

So I've just used Muxless and fixed, with dynamic disabled and none for MXM or XGP (forget)

 

What clock are you on now?

@dreamonic I know right, Why cant we get a motherboard manual like desktop counterpart. Most of the option cant be googled.

 

Did you all flash with the GPU OC Camolil's Bios? Maybe that could be the problem. Since we are all running different chips and revisions here and some have a70 or a60.

Try the one without and post back.


@Baiii

Maybe we should make our own Manual, yeah....

Yeah, I read up on the latency, usually lower is worse than higher (128 or above) but in my case my audio would crack and occasionally do that sound glitch when you go from one app to another, hopefully you know what I'm talking about.

Changing it anyway, cured that problem.

 

There is one w/o OC ? give us link

Edit: epic fail @ posting link haha

 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45117524/bios-mods.com/sp54724_NWL_UlkMenus_Fantrip_ByCamiloml.exe

@Baiii

??? LOL, looks the same and it works. Nanners!

 

404 error ...

My thing is that I want a BIOS that has OC built in the BIOS so that with any future driver updates that don't allow it we aren't stuck with stock clocks.

 

UPDATE, link works in my post.. Baiii must have been dreary.. 404... pfft.

That's kind of thinking too far out. Who's to say that it won't screw anything up if a newer bios just overwrites it? Just saying, I'd stick with how many options I get atm.

 

Just flash a OC'd after changing setting, @ least mine didnt lock up yet .
the 740/880 OC maybe have some problem hence the lock up.

I just notice even in high performance fix mode, the dGPU can turn off if you mess alot with switching. The driver and CCC is not perfect but a restart fix everything.

 

800/1000 with our version of the 6750m, gets you 64.0 GByte/s bandwidth. I think stock it was around 52?

I did notice when you switch from Power-saving GPU to High-performance GPU (or vice versa,) it switches fine but if you switch back suddenly, it won't switch. So give it a few seconds to fully change over before switching back. I'd say software would be partially to blame there too. Mostly the operators fault

 

Well, they did't intend you to use modded bios, unsupported features and cranked the hell up the GPU on a budget machine =.=

 

*UPDATED*

Sure they didn't, just like how manufacturers build stock vehicles that can be chipped another 50HP for gas and 150HP for diesel because of the support out for that particular vehicle. Warranty issues would be a crime wave, train wreck if they wanted you to get more performance out of their engines on stock internals by putting a blower on it. But people still push it anyway.

Surely it is not "intended" but it's because of the good results that boldly show its supporters, which is all due to the tolerance amount levels of each.

This budget laptop happens to fall into that category. Great support, great gains achieved.

What I should have said was.. take a AWD DSM eclipse or talon (cheap car, has maybe 200HP with 14psi) and slap a 50trim turbo and 3" exhaust, tubular manifolds, tune, 1000cc injectors.. etc and other supporting mods (mods are relatively cheap for this car) and you got a 4-banger that can beat Lamborghini's or Viper's at a fraction of the cost of buying one of those. People find what works, is cheap and has great results, and it happens to be a good build that can run at least 440hp on stock bottom end, with 500 top. Just saying.. you wouldn't know that if it weren't for the support.

Intention.. more like assertion.

 

So far so good. Flashed with Camilol 740/880 with Musho 780/880 on top. Worked great. Then went ahead and flashed Camilol at stock, both fixed and dynamic. Flashed Musho 750/850, and so far so good. I realized 750/850 is a good compromise between heat and performance. I don't lose much performance (maybe 1FPS in BF3) from 780/880 to 750/850. But temps are also 77-78C without a cooler @ 2.4GHz, and 72C with cooler. At 780/880 temps are about 3C higher.

 

Thanks dreamonic and baiii, so far so good. +rep.

Now to compile and add to "The Guide".

 

So... did you want to find out if they hold after a battery pull after the re-flash?


That is good news nonetheless, but I'm sticking to my guns


Thanks to your guide, I see that Overclocking the 6750m over 6770m speeds gives us 9-15 fps more from stock.

 

This dv6z and K35ta is the only ACF laptop?

 

Acer Aspire 5560G is another

 

Vostro 1555 is also one. I believe there is a Toshiba, Samsung, and Lenovo too.

 

Pretty much everything except...

Alienware, Falcon-NW, VōōDōō ... Heh

 

well....all that is well and good, not to be a pita, but would depend on the model of lambo you're talking about 440hp (sae) will toast that 4 banger block in pretty short order unless some considerable work is done, best to go for a six cyl model up front..

In our case, I would posit that amd was concerned with a somewhat different problem The actual performance of LLano exceeded AMD's expectations, in that, they discovered, (as we discovered some 400 pages ago in this thread) that it was dead simple for the A series llano with a good dedicated card, to exceed the real world performance of the substantially more expensive intel equivalent. This posed a real marketing dilemma as their principle customers, ie. hp etc., had no desire to upset their marketing strategies...sooo, amd spent a great bit of time low balling their a-series specs, intentionally holding the chip back. A lot of cars, and chips can be 'hot rodded', but in the case of the llano's- we're not 'hot rodding the chip as much as we're just returning it to design spec. The proof is in the thermal envelope these chips are capable of running in. ANY time you can both overclock AND undervolt a chip...you're clearly exploiting artificially constricted but inherent performance

You seem a person of wide ranging interests and esoteric knowledge
Remarkable how this thread seems to have attracted a remarkably interesting group of people.
seer

 

That post processing was causing the stuttering on DiRT3, I put it on low and now runs smooth as hell (benchmark reaches max 66 fps xfire enabled)

 

Last part was a sinister way of being sarcastic? Idk, words are hard to decipher under motives.

And not to be a PITA back, but what I'm referring to is pay $340,000 for an LP640, or spend maybe $10,000 in mods for a DSM tuner, and you got a 10 second 4cyl car.

I know you can't compare apples to oranges, that's why I'm referring to performance levels.


And it is kinda the same because everything results in comparison. Engines, rated at peak horsepower when sold, say an OHV V10 out of the Viper, GenIII are actually rated around 625hp with 62lbs/hr injectors before they put a window in the block on stock bottom end. But are sold as 505hp under N/A only. So as you say, low-ball for marketing, this is more like low-ball for engine life/warranty/business revenue. I love engines and performance.

This is my build right now

http://www.unvivify.com/srt-10/SetupL.jpg

Plus putting on a twin screw supercharger actually increases fuel mileage, kinda like undervolting and overclocking.

There is much more to go on by, but yes, a diverse crowd.

 

^very nice

Best example plain and simple. cars are alot like computers. Turbo cars for example, turning up the boost levels increases power, but only when things like air/fuel mixture and tuning are sufficient for the job. Same thing with computers and overclocking, you got to have enough voltage and cooling for it to run. And with a turbo you can only push it soo far until you start looking towards bigger turbo upgrades.

Heres my rx7 http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/40232_417161558556_752713556_4813391_7670146_n.jpg
blew the engine 2 years ago, just havent had any income/job to get her back on the road yet http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...0091629658557_752713556_6302709_2329165_n.jpg

 

Man ohhh man... I've always wanted an RX-7, they are nasty when mean! And I'm liking the bronze on white. Wheels got a nice lip. Very sharp and CLEAN car!

That had to hurt, how she blow? not big enough waste gate and turbo creep or just she couldn't handle it no more?


Haha, funny this comes up. I blew my H22a in a race, was a good engine, pulled strong.

 

I've got a Dodge Grand Caravan, lol.

I'll try turning post processing off (if possible). But Xfire is still a mixed bag and causes stuttering for most games.

 

i honestly think the turbo ate something but it was hesitating that morning, and my was thinking it would clear up so i was flooring it lol (stock turbo stock boost), FC RX7 Tear down - YouTube
So i've rebuilt the turbo into a hybrid with a ebay seized to4b compressor, just need to rebuild the motor, but I will need some ecu upgrade and fuel injectors to coop with it, hopefully shooting for 300+hp after rebuild =)

Im just going to take my time and restore it here and there. painted the engine bay satin black and wheel fender area, planning to take out the lsd and rebuild it and paint all that back there etc. Doing that stuff doesn't cost much money when you got the right stuff.

 

Haha, nothing like that heavy chest feeling to the stunned expression on your face moments afterwards.

That's probably going to get expensive for a rebuild. Going by the video, I remember reading about apex seals, and how they are prone to premature wear intervals.

Yeah I know what you mean, the right conditions and the right stuff go a long way for less. It's good to keep busy and have something to work toward, keeps us gear heads sane more or less.

That's a good number to be in considering your cars weight. Should be high 12's or low 13's right?


I had the M2B4 LSD in my old CB7 with the H22a drop.
Put 240hp with straight pipe, headers and mild tune.

http://www.unvivify.com/cb7/CB7-I.jpg
http://www.unvivify.com/cb7/CB7-W.jpg
http://www.unvivify.com/cb7/CB7-O.jpg


I know the feeling of ...a lot of work has got to go back into it to make it run again.
Hope you reach your goal of 300!


Anyway, back to Llano

 

I drive a 2009 Honda Accord EX-L V-6 Coupe, and have been thinking about turbo/supercharge, along with anything else that might turn my car into a stock-looking bada$$. Any recommendations?

It's the best car I've ever owned.

 

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lol, you guys crack me up what a group we have here. I have a big gun caddy I drive for 'show', but my fave ride is a 94 Classic Range Rover which looks like it just rolled off the showroom floor. Kind of like a 4x4 Rolls I'm on the road doing a show now, or I'd send you pictures. Funny thing tho, old school 4.2 litre aluminum block V-8, full time 4 wheel drive, 100k plus on the odometer, and the big rangie still runs 85-90 all day long giving about 19mpg in near silent air suspensioned, concert hall sound, cushy leather and hardwood surroundings luv that car but I got to tell you, Lucas (as in electronics) really IS "The Prince of Darkness"!..troubleshooting periodic electrical glitches is a nightmare.
Back on topic tho,

I wish the manufacturers would just post some development bios and white sheets for their machines, and let us play. I'd be perfectly willing to sign off on a warranty waiver on anything connected to the apu/ dedicated gpu etc.

They all cite 'proprietary intellectual property' arguments...oh yeah REALLY....like there's something they're doing that no one else knows? give me a break. Especially when opening up the bios on their mboards has become a HUGE marketing bonanza.

 

I have a 2004 BMW 545i, which is a 320HP car stock. I put a new Dinan chip in it, K&N Air-Filter, and a Hamman exhaust. It puts about about 360 at the wheels, but still gets 28MPG in sixth on the highway. I'd say thats a good comprimise.

 

Definitely.

Anything beats mine in fuel economy. I get 9 mpg city, 14 highway.

In sixth I maybe can budge 15.

It's the only vehicle I've seen where the fuel gauge moves as you drive. Lol!

 

It would be nice if they did have some "unlocked" versions. I'd pay a premium for it now that I know what the potential is, especially for Trinity. However, someone brought up a good point in another thread. Trinity is based off Bulldozer core, and afaik atm there are no overclock tools like K10stat or FusionTweaker that will work with the bulldozer core. Hopefully the maker of K10Stat or FusionTweaker will also do one for Trinity.

In my heyday, I got a new car every 9-12 months for my job. Just a perk, I had to pay a reasonable monthly lease fee, but that's it, nothing more, no insurance, repairs 100% or car replacement. I had a Ram 1500 Hemi and a Jeep Commander Hemi. I know the feeling about seeing the gas needle move as you drive, lol. I think I got about 250 miles per tank, although my driving habits with those cars were far from fuel friendly Now I get about 25mpg highway, 19 city, and still wish it could be better in my minivan. But I can at least drive 400 miles on a tank before thinking about filling up.

 

I think it should be possible to make a K10Stat equivalent for Trinity. The problem might be that AMD locks down the Trinity CPU's.

And, before my BMW, I had a Miata, with a twin turbo 13B Rotary transplant. It ran about a 12.8 quarter if you were good to it. But man, it sucked gas. It only had a 10 gallon tank though, so when it got 18mpg the way I drove it, I got 190 miles to a tank. :O If I drove well, I could get 28 ish, but it was painful with all that power on tap.

 

Any suggestions on budget usb sound cards to add 5.1? My desktop has a x-fi in it and a logitech 5.1 system and i miss it on this laptop.. of course laptops arent suppose to be movie theaters.. but i was thinking maybe a used soundblaster live sb0490 since they are pretty cheap on ebay just to add 5.1

It would be nice if someone could program the gpu switch option into the monitor function f4 button.

 

I don't know if it's budget or not but the Surround USB X-Fi from creative is a nice addition to my computer (had it for already 2 years, works fine)

 

Gah, screen brightness keys not working now (Fn + F2 / F3). I reinstalled the hotkey driver, but I didn't think that was even necessary, only for the OSD. Side effect of the modded BIOS in fixed mode perhaps?

Edit: Hmm, yeah, definitely tied to fixed graphics. If I switch to the IGP "Power Saving GPU", I can control brightness with the keys. Otherwise, can't when using dedicated.

 

Doubtful. AMD's schema for both power and performance in notebooks (their primary focus now) indicates the need to keep them unlocked and adjustable.

 

Ok I finally got switchable and fixed graphics working thanks to HT's guilde found here.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...unlock-fixed-dynamic-switchable-graphics.html

Gaming is much better now. I used camolil's BIOS without any gpu overclock. for some reason no matter what bios I use with a built in dgpu overclock I get system crashes. No BSOD just lock up. I can use msi afterburner and oc and I don't have any problems. I'm not sure exactly why this is.

I flashed camolil's BIOS first and then musho's and it did keep the settings from camolil's BIOS but since the bios oc is not working I am just using camolil's BIOS.

 

The software switch is not perfect smooth, if it struck, just restart and it should be fine.

 

I actually can't remember any time in past history where AMD ever locked their notebook CPUs, and I had a Turion back in the day.

But software compatibility might be an issue in getting an OC.