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    *HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by scy1192, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. baii

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    Well @ stock, Hp have some stupid high voltage even idle. Grab k10stat or fusiontweaker and undervolt abit. Generally we are looking around at 10-20W idle with wireless connected. Dynamic or fixed on iGPU
     
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    ^^^ THIS!

    With my A8-3510MX using the IGP (6620G), screen half-brightness, and wi-fi on, I idle at about 11W, and while surfing, run about 14-15W average. Flash and Silverlight video might push it up to 20-22W though.

    K10stat and fusiontweaker are more than just overclockers. I use k10stat because of multiple profiles, and run one at overclock, and one for battery implementation that limits CPU so it runs cool, quiet, and consumes little battery. I run from 600MHz to 1500MHz and that helps quite a bit.
     
  3. ggcvnjhg

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    Yeah I'm messing around with it now. On battery it looks like it's running the lowest P state while surfing web (800Mhz default).

    How do we know which video card the computer is using?

    I see my laptop is @ .775 voltage and it's still discharging at ~ 16K. I'd love to be able to get it down to around 12K or so. That doable?
     
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    You can specify in Catalyst Control Center which one to use for different programs. Otherwise, if you want more fine-grained control, you have to see HTWingNut's thread and use one of the modified BIOS files by camolil, for example.

    Mine does OK at .7125V 800MHz, usually discharges around 14K, less if I do one tab at a time, things like that - if I open up 10-15 tabs in IE and turn off some of the power-saving features, voltage jumps closer to 18-20. WiFi off or 'slow' browsing, I can get closer to 12-14.
     
  5. ggcvnjhg

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    Okay, I bumped the voltage down. I'm seeing around 14K. That's tolerable. Battery bar showing around 3 hr, 40ish or so. Not bad, not bad at all.
     
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    Your processor may not be stable at the same voltage as another even of the same model, so if you get bluescreens you'll have to bump it back up a bit, and you may want to lock the p-state and run Prime 95 for a bit to confirm it's stable at that voltage. But you may already be aware of this. Just a heads up if not.
     
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    Has anyone had problems with the latest 12.3 drivers from amd? First off it says they are 12.2 but after installed it says 12.3, but anyways it completely messed up my laptop, can't do anything without crashing into a BSOD. Trying to uninstall them leads to another BSOD. Even safe mode wont boot up now. Everything was perfectly fine before updating the drivers. Previously had been running 12.1 Any Ideas?
     
  8. baii

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    12.2 WHQL = 12.3 preview = auto doom in dynamic mode .
    Try to start window press f5 or f8 and use "last good configuration".
     
  9. Jaxfan28

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    Thanks, just gonna say the hell with it and do a minimal recovery and start over. I did to many uninstalls and reinstalls of drivers trying to make it work.
     
  10. silver_oak

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    Hi All,

    Just got my HP DV6z. very good laptop. But scroll in my touchpad is not working. any suggestions?

    in synapticss control, scrolling is checked. still it is not working.

    please help.
     
  11. ggcvnjhg

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    I found out the hard way =D. I used your speeds...wasn't stable at your voltages. I had to bump it up just a tiny bit and everything is working fine.

    1080P, 6750M Refurb for $600 that performs, for all intents and purposes the same as my DV6T that cost a pretty penny more. Can't complain.
     
  12. ggcvnjhg

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    Did you want to use the edges of the touchpad to scroll pages left/right and up/down?

    If so, click the scrolling. When you leave the cursor there, there will be a gear on the upper right of that line...that's the settings for scrolling. Click that gear and you can enable vertical/horizontal scrolling. Really silly that the synaptics driver don't have it enabled by default.
     
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    thanks :) ..working now
     
  14. hypertek

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    search for and install atiman uninstaller, that is what I have been using. it strips all ATI drivers and pieces :D
     
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    Along with the undervolt, try configuring BatteryCare to turn off aero on battery. Should help somewhat.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up, already had all my stuff backed up so I went ahead and reformatted, no big deal now I'll have it for the future if I screw something up again.
     
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    Well, seems I'll have to wait, as I could not put the order on hp.com, as they do not accept non-us credit cards.

    The worst thing is that the dv6 for the latin american market tops out with an A4, has no dedicated GPU, no screen upgrade and uses a cheap-looking shiny plastic finish instead of the metal finish... and still it costs the same or more as the US version. WTH HP?? :mad:
     
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    Did anyone try this then?

    Could you point me to where they showed it had minimal impact on performance?

    Thanks,
     
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    Regarding gaming performance see my 6620G benchmark results. I ran one RAM chip (single channel), and multiple dual channel configs with different timings. The faster timing CAS9 DDR3 1600 had < 5% improvement in FPS over CAS11 DDR3 1600. http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...g-benchmarked-various-ram-configurations.html

    Perhaps if you could reprogram timings to CAS8 or CAS7 @ 1600MHz (highly unlikely) you *might* get as much at 10% improvement. But that's 3FPS out of 30 only. If you can get RAM that does it for free, great. But I wouldn't spend much money on RAM that can improve timings. RAM speed has the largest influence, even then 1333 CAS 9 to 1600 CAS9 rendered less than 10% FPS improvement.
     
  21. ggcvnjhg

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    I'm late to the party but look at the resolution he's running it at. He's not running it at default. I've had laptops without the ability to run it at default (any 1366x768 panel) and you'll see easily 10-15% drop going from the resolution he's running it at to default.

    Really, people should ALWAYS mention if they're not running 3dmark results that are not being performed at default. Results are fairly meaningless without that context.

    *edit* Lol...way late to the party. Looks like it was figured out. In any event, any high benchmark scores that are out of the ordinary are almost always a result of running it out of spec. That should be the first thing anyone thinks of.
     
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    The design, compared to ours... it simply rocks
     
  24. HTWingNut

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    Looks very nice. Much improved design. Seems they ditched the backlit touchpad track lighting in favor of chrome, which I'm an advocate for. Stupid lit ring makes no sense. But no mention of a backlit keyboard. And hard to tell if the HP logo is still a lit logo (I hope not). They put lighting everywhere except where it would be most useful, they keyboard. They also show a 14" in that video of HP DV. Interesting.
     
  25. baii

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    Does putting chrome around the trackpad make a selling point :( ?
     
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    No, but it makes more sense than a lit ring that I disable 100% of the time.
     
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    10 characters
     
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    Just checked out the HP's. I presume that the ones they are selling are the new ones?

    Subwoofer only on the DV7 and dm4t Beats edition.

    FHD screen upgrade still $150 more. Not available on the dm4t.

    Standard keyboard only, no mention of backlight, except for dm4t Beats edition which has a red backlit keyboard.

    Hybrid drive not available on the AMD model or dm4t.

    2GB video adapter not available on the AMD or dm4t.

    Lit logo.

    Still no dv7 AMD model.

    Looks like we're going to have to wait for Trinity or Kaveri before we're going to see the best of all worlds on a AMD (hopefully).
     
  29. Drac

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    The new ones won't be available until April. Probably the end of April.
     
  30. R3d

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    Where did you get this info?
     
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    At the HP website, where I actually chose different models and checked out the available options for them.
     
  32. HTWingNut

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    Good find (DV6 video @ 42 seconds)

    [​IMG]

    I would be willing to pay $30-40 more for a nice backlit keyboard to be honest. But this may be on limited models only like the beats edition laptops have currently.
     
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    Couldn't we just install that keyboard into our laptop and have the backlit feature as long as the keyboard fits?
     
  34. R3d

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    But those are the current models? Or did you find some product pages or something?

    I think we're missing the power connector on the motherboard. And I've heard that the laptop doesn't boot with a different keyboard attached.
     
  35. hypertek

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    Someone try it, i bet you can just take the illumination power from the HP logo to the keyboard .
     
  36. Vect

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    Just in time then:








    Voltage supplied to the hp logo is 5.27v

    Funny stuff: I found that my screen was missing a screw in the top left part... I found it right below of it sticked to a very powerful magnet in the lower left part.

    One of my antennas (the black one) was directly touching the screen metallic frame, I had to create a gap between it and a small piece of paper, this should actually reflect in far better signal than before...

    It was actually quite easy to remove the frame, there is no need to disassemble the whole laptop (as seen in the photos)

    There is some adhesive attached to the screen frame metallic frame and the bezel, which difficults a bit its removal but stills very possible and can be completely removed leaving no marks.

    I really wanted the HP logo light off... at least is quite easy to remove it.
     
  37. HTWingNut

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    So how did you remove the frame? Just pry around the edges and pop it off? I may do that to turn off my HP light too. And which cable is for the HP logo?

    Also, even if voltage is same, the power cable is most likely a four pin ribbon cable as I've seen in many backlit keyboards. Trying to splice those things together would be very difficult.
     
  38. Vect

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    you have to pull slowly up from the inner part of the frame, first the area of the webcam (remember it has some sort of glue things but they come off too and you will hear also the sound) then the sides and lastly the bottom.

    As you apply slowly an up force on the inner side of the frame, you will hear some soft pops, those are the things that hold the frame from the exterior contours, it's pretty safe to do it as long as the force is applied softly always from the inner contour of the frame but enough to unstick the glue things.

    The connector seen on the first photo is the HP LED logo, remove that as in the picture and the light stays off :D

    Edit: REMEMBER to remove the two screws that are beneath the gum things in the lower left and lower right parts of the bezel FIRST.

    Edit2: perhaps you may like also to add the photos to your guide if you feel like doing it also, it may help other people.
     
  39. clarkkent57

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    Maybe you missed this in my original message:

    "I presume that the ones they are selling are the new ones?"

    You're always free to investigate on your own, and I'll split half the pay I get for researching in this forum with you.
     
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    AMD?s 2nd Generation APU, Codenamed ?Trinity,? Will Enable Superior Multimedia Experience for Our ?Connected? Generation | Fusion

    •“Trinity” uses the next-generation “Piledriver” modular CPU core for improved notebook compute performance of up to 29% (as compared to our “Llano” first generation AMD A-series APU).

    •That “Piledriver” CPU core combined with AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 discrete-class graphic cores provides up to 56% more graphics performance boost in notebook games and the increasing number of applications that utilize massively parallel computing

    Testing performed by AMD Performance Labs. The score for the 2012 AMD A10-4600M on the “Pumori” reference design for PC Mark Vantage Productivity benchmark shows an increase of up to 29% over the 2011 AMD A8-3500M on the “Torpedo” reference design. The AMD A10-4600M APU has a score of 6125 and the 2011 AMD A8-3500M APU scored 4764. Scores rounded to the nearest whole number. All performance data for 2012 Mainstream platform for CPU and GPU are based on ES Silicon (Engineering Samples) on the Pumori reference design. Projections assume A10-4600M with AMD Radeon™ HD 7660 Graphics, 4G DDR3-1600 (Dual Channel) Memory and Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. The AMD reference design “Torpedo” consisted of the 2011 AMD A8-3500M with AMD Radeon™ HD 6620G Graphics, 4GB DDR3-1333 and Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. TR-1

    Testing performed by AMD Performance Labs. The score for the 2012 AMD A10-4600M APU on the “Pumori” reference design for 3D Mark Vantage Performance showed an increase of up to 56% over the 2011 AMD A8-3500M APU. The AMD A10-4600M APU has a score of 4352 and the 2011 A8-3500M has a score of 2788. Scores rounded to the nearest whole number. All performance data for 2012 Mainstream platform for CPU and GPU are based on ES Silicon (Engineering Samples) on the Pumori reference design. Projections assume A10-4600M with AMD Radeon™ HD 7660 Graphics, 4G DDR3-1600 (Dual Channel) Memory and Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. The AMD reference design “Torpedo” consisted of the 2011 AMD A8-3500M with AMD Radeon™ HD 6620G Graphics, 4GB DDR3-1333 and Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. TR-2
     
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    How do you get those little rubber covers off? i just ripped one of them and am afraid to continue lol
     
  42. baii

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    just pike it off with fingernail, they are some doubleside tape to hold them.
     
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    But they're not. So why would you presume such a thing? :confused: I don't think I'm understanding what you're trying to say.
     
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    Hi all

    after reading through this thread and following it for about a month, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my dv6 6135dx to a 1080p screen. I've done so (got the screen from laptopscreens.com) and love the screen but I have one issue. Theres a spot on the bottom right about 3 inches from the right edge of the screen where I can see "water" moving around the screen. I can't see it if I hold the laptop still, but if i shake it, or even pat it then I can see little ripples. It is just on one small area about 6 cm in diameter. Is this normal and will it go away? Thanks beforehand :D
     
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    That's probably something pushing on the LCD, maybe from when you swapped the screens?

    I can shake my screen and no ripples pop up.
     
  47. baii

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    that is from the led hp logo light assembly. It is common issue on new 1 where you push on the logo light and their is a "ripple".

    Just check it ,try to flat it a bit i guess , if you is on warranty. I rip the whole thing out cause mine out of warranty already.
     
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    Thanks guys for all your input. It turned out, that there was a crease in the display cable just behind the display panel that was pushing on it and any little vibration caused a bad ripple. Just opened it up now and fixed it and no more ripple :). Another thing for future reference, while I was changing the display cable earlier, I decided to put some arctic silver 5 on both gpu and cpu (didnt take off the yellow film, just cleaned old grease and added new) and now my laptop is idling at 47 degrees celsius! never had it that low before....lowest it went before was around 51. This is on my desk without a cooler :D
     
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    Im starting to get horizontal lines on the top of my screen again :-(

    IIRC im on 12.1 preview video drivers.
     
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