*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

Did it happen after you woke your laptop up from sleep or screen off?

 

I wonder if the short lines that very rarely appear are due to a single stream processor core glitching. In other words, a short row of horizontal pixels output by one stream. Not sure if that comes down to software or hardware for why some people get a little corruption occasionally.

The AMD vs Intel charts for anisotropy and chroma are embarrassing. Wonder if Intel systems with AMD graphics are still affected by Sandy Bridge Chroma issues during video playback.

 

Cool got the HP logo disabled.. it was annoying sleeping at night and having to cover it up so it doesnt shine the room lol

 

HT, I do dispute what you say about the 120GB SSD example. If used for media work, the disk may see more than 500GB of writes per day during editing. At 1200 writes it will be unreliable within a year. If used for an OS, probably 3/4 of the disk will be full almost permanently and you need to factor that in. In my case I absolutely need a bulk storage drive because virtual machines and associated ISO torrents/etc would again risk murdering the damn thing in a brief span of time. Ideally I want at least 256-320GB and endurance closer to 20K overwrites. That of course needs a controller which endures also.

The temptation is seriously there but I cannot easily justify the potential downtime....such a nice conundrum.

 

video editing probably is bottleneck by the cpu , and bt is probably better off on a HDD anyways.

 

Beats me, but you take what you can get when they have all the marbles.

 

Apparently, not.

 

baiii: Yeah 500GB/day is not hard for a fast SSD. At 200MB/sec sequential write, you could in theory push 720GB per hour. Post production work is limited by the user more than anything...

 

That TH link implied VCE logic circuit. From the ULV triple threat demo earlier this year, VCE can encode video similar to Quick Sync, without loading CPU or shaders. I can hope for Hi10 h.264 or better, but that probably did not make the cut...

 

If you're using a machine for that many media writes, used for heavy media work or anything with large number of writes, then you better get an SLC SSD drive since that is what they're designed for. If you're doing a lot of encoding, you may be bottlenecked by your CPU, most likely the case if it is a laptop CPU, and a fast hard drive with a large enough RAM buffer will work just as well, and probably a lot cheaper than an SSD. You would never buy an MLC SSD if it's writing 500GB a day, you'd be throwing your money away. MLC is for general consumer level tasks, which is what we're discussing. My example was as stated for the "general user" which means web surfing, Office apps, gaming, and general media and productivity. Sure you can do many occasion heavy write days, but that would only be on occasion, and again, no issue for longevity of the SSD.

Even if the disk is 3/4 full, there is active wear leveling. It's nothing like a USB flash drive where once data is written, it remains in the same spot until it's deleted. SSD's constantly shuffle blocks to maintain close to even wear across all blocks. Regarding capacity, with previous generations of MLC SSD's general rule of thumb was to buy an SSD roughly twice the size of what you'd generally keep stored on it. But that's much less of an issue these days with improved controller technology and over provisioning.

 

That clarifies things a bit. I was given to understand that controller failure was partly due to the shuffling anyway, something to do with screwing the magic index that keeps all those blocks logically aligned. Which they have continued to work on.

I personally do not run constant multimedia edits, that was just an illustration why the number of writes is not necessarily all-encompassing.

Important question about Momentus drives, 1) do they fit a caddy and 2) is the disk itself readable if flash starts dying (like a failure recovery mode or such).

A $100 SSD and $100-$150 vault drive are at the bounds of what I am willing to spend for added speed and reliability, taking into account I would probably be paying for 2x8GB RAM at the same time...desperately need the startup speed because hibernating 16 gig is HDD suicide. May also get 9-cell battery you see, and spending more on upgrades than it originally cost would leave a bad taste.

 

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There is mention in a few other places too, but the above is concise. VCE adds hardware encode in two formats: Full dedicated encoder or Hybrid encoder + GPU. This is a no-brainer to try fitting such tech into Trinity. VCE claims proper 4:2:0 which may include Hi10 but I'm not holding my breath yet.

However if Trinity is VLIW4 and not GCN, I don't know how much Steady Video, APP or...DDMA(audio provisioning?) will be affected.

 

I noticed the lines after I stopped playing borderlands. Think it could have had something to do with the heat?

 

possibly, but I doubt it unless your laptop is getting extremely hot. I only had this issue when I was on the os that came with the laptop. I was able to reproduce it by shutting off the screen (setting it to shut off the screen after a minute in power setting without actually sleeping the laptop). After the screen came back on the lines would happen randomly in the top rightish corner of the screen. After a restart everything was normal. Since then, I have formatted and reinstalled windows 7 with amd 12.1 drivers. Never been able to reproduce it since...

 

No, I understand. In most cases, write cycles are not a factor in general longevity of an SSD. Controller failure is more due to power issues and hardware than anything else.

Think of an SSD as a giant database array. It doesn't matter where the data is as long as you have the address, you can pull it from anywhere at pretty much same speed regardless where its located. Kind of like the game Battleship, your data is located at A3, G4, C9, and E7. It also tracks how many times each of those locations have been written so when the SSD idles, it moves stuff around so future writes go on the least used blocks. Unlike a hard drive that has to move the head and wait for the drive to spin to the head, and if the data's fragmented constant head moving and waiting on the platter.

 

Hy guys !
I have such a laptop (dv6-6b08eh). I flashed newest bios the laptop.
After i try flash ( Free Cloud Storage - MediaFire) 780/880 Mushos bios. But the InsydeFlash wrote the error message:
"This bios is not for your notebook pc.
The version of ROM file isnt newer than that of bios."
What can I do to work ? I have no idea.

Sry my bad english.

 

Nothing you can do. Use software OC.

 

Okay thank you the answer.

But, is there any modified (oc) bios for my laptop ?

 

In general, people don't do OC bios as soft OC works. If musho come back on forum, you can ask him to mod you one.

Also did a quick google search but no unlocked bios is out there yet.

 

The reason we want BIOS OC is because it was disabled in AMD drivers for a while, but seems to be available now.

 

For the software overclock i need disable ULPS which makes the battery life worse than bios oc. do i need to disable ulps for bios oc, right? So the software oc is not my way because I need sometimes long battery life and i do not want to enable and disable ulps for save battery life.

 

Yea, that right.When I come into the game , soft oc was fine.

 

are you trying to use Trix?
Edit: honestly I dont know wat ULPS do, but I never disabled it and it OC fine.

 

okay try

 

Well, I just read search through forum and the difference is disabling ULPS let you OC w.o priming. Generally, I run my game then start OC. rest of the time I leave it stock.

 

quote from HTWingNut's OVERCLOCKING GPU guide:
(1) I have written the appropriate ULPS registry entries to enable or disable ULPS. You will need to reboot after you have updated your registry entries. It's basically a toggle, so run "ULPS_Disable.reg" and reboot and your ULPS will always be disabled until you run "ULPS_Enable.reg". Download it here (originally posted here): ulps_enable_disable.zip

if you say me ulps disable is not important i believe you. I try to be as you say.

 

ULPS shouldn't be required for overclock with 12.1 or 12.1a preview drivers. I gotta spend some time and update the guide.

 

First specs of a HP G4 Trinity notebook:
HP Pavilion g4-2002ax Notebook PC (B3J41PA) specifications - HP Products for Home and Home Office products

 

Ohh it's good. Then only msi afterburner is needed for the overclock.

 

Afterburner has been fine for me...

That is one really nice 14" base-model laptop. Wonder what a customized larger model can do?

 

I try overclock with msi afterburner but was not good. I overclocked 5-5 Mhz (gpu -vram) after I start the game. Game is not responding and my dedicated vga is unavailable. Just then, if i restart the system.
So msi afterburner is not worked for me :/

 

What driver you using?

 

Need more information. What Catalyst driver software do you have? Did you add the text to Afterburner that unlocks the OC feature? Does the game you are playing support Alt-Tab properly? (some games even survive hibernation, some games crash if you frown at the screen)

 

I'm using amd catalyst 12.1a.
I unlocked the OC featured in the Msi Afterbuner.
I'm trying play Bf3, dirt 3, dota 2.. all bad... but only if i using afterburner.

 

Battlefield 3 and the expansion are 50% off until tomorrow, just figured I would let u guys know. I just bought my copy.

 

I got an email from bestbuy HP - 15.6" Pavilion Laptop - 6GB Memory - 640GB Hard Drive - Dark Umber - dv6-6c35dx

almost good too bad it doesnt have dual graphics card

 

Yeah $550 is a bit steep for a Llano laptop without dedicated GPU.

 

Staple have a a6 dv6 for 400 after rebate

 

Good find! +1

Here's link: HP Pavilion dv6-6C10US 15.6" Laptop | Staples®

$50 fast Stables rebate plus $100 Visa card rebate.

 

I thought some users had issues with 12.1a? I'm still using 11.11c after upgrade hiccups. Been too busy to mess with much tweaking, barely a little game time.

HP has a three-day sale on a some systems, I got notification via email. Base dv6z quad $500 with the same standard improvements thrown in. Perhaps we can really hope to see a new dv6z laptop sometime in April if they already have specs for a new dm1z...

What was that? A6-4400? 3.0/2.6GHz? But there will be higher numbers and A8/A10 chips too...Top A6 for laptops may turbo close to 3.5GHz then, and we'll see if TC-3.0 works better than Llano's TC-2.0; question is whether chips with bigger IGPU will compromise on CPU clock to remain inside TDP..."only" 3GHz would be fine with well-matched graphics.

 

That $400 bucker is a decent ultracheap especially for students. Bluetooth, gigabit LAN socket, subwoofer? CPU okay but we have k10Stat for that. And supposedly it still pushes Skyrim at Medium, should be fine with Minecraft/WoW/TOR. Passed recommendation for it to a couple other people.

 

Acer Aspire Timeline Ultra M3 Review: A True 15-inch Ultrabook

More of a laptop than an ultrabook, in consideration of size and presence of optical drive. But this is the type of machine AMD should be aiming for. Super long resting battery with power on demand. I guess it depends whether they deliver those low-wattage quads as promised...

 

Not sure who cares about this anymore..

But I found for total stability, to stop installing AMD's SMBus driver, go back to HP's with that.

 

So I have my dv6-6135dx hp pavilion overclocked to 2.9ghz k10stats with battery set to performance mode, crossfire enabled, playing swtor on medium settings, 1366 by 768 resolution. playing swtor heavly for an hour results in core temps of 65c max. I have cooling pad and hp temp sense control set to highest mode. Can anyone compare gaming results with a similar priced (650 - 700) laptop with a intel i5 sandybridge and nvidia gt540m (stock)

I want to know which is faster in general for gaming. and benchmarks.

i'm pretty confident that the hp laptop would be faster but I want to know 100000% sure.

i know it's a little faster then my old asus republic of gamers g60jx, i5 430m,nvidia 360gts and consumes ALOT less heat, and I paid 950 for that at bestbuy in 2010.

6 months later, I paid 650 at best buy for my dv6

 

How do you keep your core temps so low with such a high overclock lol?

 

A laptop with an i5 and 540m isn't going to be close but a dv6t with an i5 and 6770m/7690m will have similar performance.

Also, what voltage are you running 2.9ghz at? What p-state did you set 2.9ghz at?

 

My Fid is 29, my DIDv is 1.

that's from bo to p6

and my voltage is 1.3

While gaming under medium load usage, temps average around 50 - 65c

 

Just a heads up. Lenovo will be putting out a 15" thinkpad with the trin chip
look for it around late june.
seer

 

b0 never kick in when you running multicore, so you probably at p0, and CnQ can throttle cpu a little bit even in high performance mode, so you see lower temp.