*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

anyone play Arma II ?? i picked it up recently to play the Day Z mod, and this game despite being older, gets low frame rates for me when online.. Mostly seem to be the game since these open world type games don't seem to be optimized very well.

 

I installed 12.5 8.97 over 12.4 and i am still showing 12.4 not 12.5 but it`s showing 8.97 , what gives?

John.

 

Try:

-Uninstall from "Uninstall or change a program"
-Reboot
-Run Driversweeper ( Phyxion.net - Driver Sweeper) and remove all AMD GPU drivers
-Reboot
-Install 12.5

I'm really looking forward to the results! If more people can confirm that microstuttering is gone with dualgraphics enabled that would be awesome!

 

I normaly have to install stock 8.9 before i install another over the top, it normaly works, but this time in installed 12.5 over 12.4 and it`s a no-go.

Does anybody have a link to 12.5?

Thanks

John

 

And the first three dominoes fall...It's nice to see people who understand the market and mission review in the proper light.

Ivy Bridge too expensive to compete, so they're moving back to Sandy Bridge in Ultrabooks?

Intel to Use Low-Performance Sandy Bridge CPUs to Make UltraBooks More Affordable - Softpedia

So, now, your Ultrabook costs a LITTLE less and performs a little worse...but when it comes to battery life, Sandy can't keep up with these numbers, however...

AMD?s Trinity Offers 46% Better Battery Life Than Ivy Bridge - Softpedia

...because lower cost and higher efficiency in parallel processing is everything...to the tune of $200 less per notebook, and 40% less power usage.

Intel Has No Competitor for AMD?s Trinity - Softpedia

 

Does 12.5 really get rid of the microstuttering? I haven't updated since 12.1 so I might give it a spin.

 

Where is the link to 12.5?

 

i believe its this one considered 12.5
AMD Catalyst 12.x (8.97 April 18) Unofficial BETA - Guru3D.com Forums

I installed it yesterday but i only been trying arma 2

 

there's a different date stamp after the version number

 

you know, i think the micro stutter just might be gone with dual graphics and those drivers. Can anyone else confirm? I just played 5 minutes of bf3 campaign

 

I take that back, i think its still chop city, went online and it was choppy. switched back to fixed and it was fine.

 

Yeah online play is a totally different monster from single player.

Softpedia's AMD-centric stuff tends to be very short and slanted. I found the IVB article about thermal dissipation to be intriguing, but otherwise Softpedia just regurgitated ultra biased AMD-centric crap...which is impressive when they had their heads up their asses. The outside sources they quote are much more rational and balanced in reporting about the new chips. However, Softpedia did lead me to this CyberLink Press Room which sounds pretty nice. Certain tasks in the studio app should be 4X faster than an A8-3500M I think, and the notion of streaming a bluray to your tablet via WiFi (in real-time) could be a very nice feature for some people.

Diablo 3 is now running very nicely on my 6135dx, I have WoW Starter downloading so I can provide numbers to someone on Reddit, and I still need to regress some framerate data for Team Fortress 2.

The Witcher 2...is still a very pretty game that I need to finish.

 

Same here; Crysis 2 single player seemed perfect with 12.5 and dual/CF enabled, then I tried multiplayer and it was terrible. Oh well. Still runs pretty well with dual graphics disabled.

D3 runs great at 1920x1080 whether I have dual graphics enabled or not. Laptop gets hot as hell though. I just realized I made a terrible pun.

 

Sounds like a bizarre conflict involving high utilization of the network drivers, resulting in bandwidth starvation on the internal I/O lanes? I think Trinity is specifically intended to be served by a chipset that throttles network to reduce I/O conflicts...

 

I doubt it. Quite easy to test though. Just run a single-player game with dual graphics enabled. No microstuttering? Good. Now start some torrents at high bandwidth usage, and with lots of open connections. Now play the same single-player game.

Does it stutter? Or is it still stutter free?

 

So, I have a HP dv6z-1000 that I want to install a backlit keyboard onto. I have looked into it and I cannot find one that is backlit and will fit my laptop. It is a 14" keyboard and there are images of the keyboard area in the service manual below:

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01744837.pdf (Page 63 and on)

So based on the image of the keyboard connectors, there are other connections that could be made, that I think would be fine for a backlit keyboard.

http://s14.postimage.org/r411ng4u9/fc965506_DSCN3831.jpg

If any1 knows a site that has done this before or can show me links to a replacement keyboard that would fit, that would be great.

 

you're playing the dx11 version ?


AMD said the trinity dual graphics will have dx9 support. I wonder where that driver is

 

Hi there!

I hope I'm in the good thread for my following question

I recently (well 3 weeks ago) purchased an SSD for my HP DV6z. It's a small one, so only Win7 64bit fits on it, and some small programs, hence I needed the original HDD, which I put in a HDD-Caddy, took out the ODD, and put the HDD into its place. Now here comes the problem:

The energy management of win7 shuts down the HDD after it's idle for X minutes, then it completely disappears, and I can't start it up again, unless a reboot. After a reboot, it's fine until idle again. Temporarily I switched off this feature in the energy-management services, so for now the HDD never switches off.

Do you know any solutions, which might work for this (HDD can switch off when idle, and switch back on when needed)?

 

A better caddy maybe. Strange things can happen when you put a bare drive in a dock, although leaving the idle disabled should be fine...SSD can manage itself nicely.

 

Well, since I can't do anything else for now, I will just leave it disabled. thanks!

 

dv6z is a good deal direct from HP at the moment, $550 with A6 and 7690M using the $25 coupon. And the battery upgrades are super cheap too, only $60 to get a 9-cell in addition to the 6-cell.

For skinflints this machine looks like a great D3er: Newegg.com - lenovo IdeaPad Z575 (12992PU) Notebook AMD A-Series A6-3420M(1.5GHz) 15.6" 6GB Memory DDR3 1333 500GB HDD 5400rpm DVD±R/RW AMD Radeon HD 6650M Some metal parts, eSATA in place of USB3, only a 6650M but that's not too bad. Nice price and apparently friendly to Linux also....?

 

Hi

I bought a dv6-6135dx laptop off of newegg. It has an integrated gpu (6620g) and a discrete gpu (6750m). I updated to the 8.90.7 driver (from windows) but now the dgpu is dead. On Gpu-z it shows that has no clock speed at all. Also I can't turn applications to high performance in the "Configure Switchable Graphics". Does this driver not support Dual Graphics? And if not how can I fix it?

Thanks

 

Alright, I'm tired and annoyed.

I have a dv6-6135dx. The last video card update I did was the 12.1 Preview drivers. When 12.2 came out, I attempted to update using the CCC installer. When it finished, an error popped up: "No AMD graphics driver is installed, or the AMD driver is not functioning properly. Please reinstall the AMD driver appropriate for your AMD hardware."
I tried to reinstall, nothing. I removed the drivers using CCC uninstaller, and it still didn't work. I had to do a system restore to get everything fixed.

So, I tried again when 12.4, the most recent driver, came out. When running the installer, I noticed that it said my video driver was up to date, and only updated the CCC and the HDMI driver. Once again, I got the same error. I tried to revert back to an old driver using Device Manager, I tried removing and reinstalling, nothing worked.

I would really like to update to the most recent drivers in order to help performance on video games. Help please?

 

- uninstall your current drivers
- go to hp website and install the latest package they offer for your model
- go to amd.com and download latest notebook drivers

works like a charm here - If you want to be safe, don't mess around with preview, modded, beta or 'fixed' drivers - stick strictly to WHQL releases and you should have zero issues
if there is an issue after that, it *may* be hardware

 

Alright, thank you! I hadn't thought about going to HP and installing those before going to amd.

 

yea - any AMD updates seem to need official vendor specific drivers to start with - i suspect it's to allow AMD's software to properly detect which notebook manufacturer the drivers are being updated on since Toshiba, Sony and Panasonic won't allow reference drivers to install on their lappys

 

Everything worked perfectly. All that changed is for some reason when I right-click on the desktop, I no longer have a quick link to the CCC. Oh well, now everything's working.

 

Hey, this has been bugging me for a while, and nobody seems to know the answer (unless of course it's buried within the 600+ pages of this forum) But I have been trying all day to get programs that use OpenGL for rendering to use the dgpu. I have been searching the web, and no dice. All I can find is to "enable fixed mode in the BIOS" with the newest BIOS, there isn't the option to do this? Any suggestions? (My laptop is a dv6z-6b00 CTO, if that helps)

 

There's a modded BIOS somewhere that has the fixed mode option. I don't have a link on hand, you'll have to find it somewhere.

 

The only modded BIOS I've been able to find is for the dv6z-6100. Apparently the 6b00 is slightly different, and applying BIOS meant for a 6100 could easily brick my system... Thus why I've turned to the forum with a seemingly infinite amount of knowledge on the subject

 

even in fixed mode i cant get it to run desired programs in opengl...

it automatically changes to integrated gpu

 

did you select the gpu in CCC ?

 

I'd like to know more about these vaccum coolers. From personal experience, do they generally perform better than a cooling pad?

 

Summers here and this is my first laptop with an AMD processor. I've always had Intel CPUs and they always seem to run the same temperatures and never worried especially with ULV processors.

Regular web browsing, I'm getting about 125-135*F temperature and while playing a couple FPS games (Syndicate) I get up to about 155-160F.
I'm guessing this is normal? Room temp would be about 75*F since I use it in the kitchen.

Are these normal? The left side of the palm rest are a little warm, causing my palms to sweat but I'm used to that from the DM3 where the whole palm rest would be under fire.

Thanks again

 

160F is actually a pretty decent temp while playing a modern FPS. The palmrest warming is normal - Mine is the same, especially when using the dedicated graphics.

 

dv6-6135dx fan issues

Seems my computer acts weird when trying to play games
games always start out great then major video lagging
I think my throttling is kicking in because of heat

I never hear fan kick in any louder then what it starts off at
When I install a bios file I hear the fan kick in full throttle


at no point in gaming does fan change speed
Any ideas???????



I heard you cant do anything with controlling fan speed since its bios locked
but even adjusting temps for fan in bios does nothing
cool n quiet disabled or enabled does same thing

 

XDViPeR: Your name is difficult to type. Also, I am getting system temps in the 80-85C range when playing very heavy games like BF3 but generally temps are slightly below 80 (even closer to 70C). In F that would be a max of 185F and a minimum around 150-160F playing modern games. I am running a 45% CPU overclock to 2.2GHz and have never taken the system apart for a repaste. Intel dv6s with i7 have gotten above 90C and experienced throttling in limited cases, but the AMD side typically maxes at the safer 85C or below. In honesty staying below 80C is probably best but staying below 90C should be a rule. It's all metal and crystal inside, the temps won't kill it. I am still wondering about Trinity laptop APUs, the desktop Bulldozers that fathered Piledriver had a VERY low thermal safety zone so it leaves me curious about the safe thermal max for the new laptop parts.

bladez360: In your case that sounds like what would normally be a laptop stuck in CoolSense "Quietest" mode. It throttles performance *hard* to keep the noise down. Start with a reference HP BIOS and make sure your vendor drivers are intact, then fool with the CoolSense modes while running HWinfo64 and Prime95. If your fan speeds do not change then something is messed up.

 

Whelp, as you all might imagine, I've been beating the bushes looking for anyone who has put out a decent trinity machine, and so far, I have to say I'm pretty disappointed at what is in the works for the immediate future. Now pricing may change the game for most of you, but I was REALLY hoping for a strong chassis, A10 with a 7750 or better, and as of yet, those that ARE offering the full dual graphics setup, seemed locked into the A10-4600m /7670m combo which isn't going to set anyone's house on fire. This combo stock will deliver around 2050 to 2100 3dmark11 scores, but since my own a8 6750 combo beats that handily, i'm not impressed. In fact some of the 7670 tests I've seen show it slightly UNDERperforming the 6770, which is actually the same damned chip, so I'm at a loss as to what the mfg's are doing other than ensuring that the boxes do NOT out perform their gravy-train Intel units.

So, now i'm faced with fooling around (and waiting waiting waiting ) for someone to come thru on one of the prototype 'balls to the walls' units i got to demo, or...jumping ship and going for the big gun.

Here's the dilemma...the best of the a10 /7670 units is going to put out at best 2100 stock and probably about 2300 to 2400 3dmarks when tuned up.
AND, here in the US, looks to be approaching 900 to a thousand dollars.

OR...my boys at clevo have unleashed a friggin monster...i7 trinity quad (3610 i think) with an amd 7970, 16gigs of ram, monster cooling, backlit keyboard, ability to do 3 drives, all the goodies...etc. for , are you ready?
under 1500.00 US. Here's the kicker, THAT machine doesn't screw around with the gt560m's 2200 3dmarks, the 670's 3000 plus 3dmarks, or even the big gun gtx675's 3700 3dmarks...This clevo puts out, are you ready? right at 5800 3dmarks!!!!! Jesu Cristo! you can see my dilemma.

sooooooo, unless I hear something from the mfg's to indicate someone is going to step up to the plate with a serious bang for buck trinity box...Looks like I may have to bite the bullet and go with the alienware destroyer new Clevo.

seer

 

The 7670m is a 6650m so it makes sense that it would perform worse than the 6770m (which is the 7690m XT, iirc).

 

Yeah, you need to wait for a system with the 7690M or 7690M XT. These are the 6750M/6770M. Also, the 7750M/7770M will never Dual Graphics with Trinity because it is VLIW-4, while the 7750M is GCN.

 

Catalyst 12.6 Beta drivers were just released. Installing these on my DV6Z right now, hoping they help with Dual Graphics performance. Also these drivers apparently support some of the new Trinity CPUs.

Also they announced that they're stopping monthly Catalyst releases and switching to a "Release when they need to be released" driver model. Sounds good to me.

 

Some benches compared to the 12.5 beta:


Better framerates...

 

12.5 beta
-Kombustor
Average 82

-Dirt3
Min 31
Average 40

8.96 beta

-kombustor
Average 82

-Dirt3 (plus very interesting effect....)
min 32.54
average 41.50

 

There's less micro-stuttering for me in BF3 with dual graphics enabled with these drivers. Plus they fixed a weird bug I was having in the 12.5 betas with the Doom 3 expansion's Grabber gun where part of the screen would flip upside down when you would use it.

I know a lot of people have unrealistic expectations with driver releases (expecting major jumps in FPS and whatnot) but there are some people out there like myself who just like updating and like to see if there are any positive changes. No need for the sarcasm, I just thought people would be interested.

 

AMD did well this time. 12.6 Temperature while videochatting and watching youtube videos is dramatically less than 12.1a preview, about 5 to 6 C.

 

12.6 beta still has sticky idle clocks in dgpu-only mode.
won't detect graphics apps.

amd sucks. I'm going optimus next time.

 

I can't wait for HP to come out with a dv6 with the Trinity cpu in it. I defintely see one in my future I think I'll wait until Windows 8 drops, though, so I don't have to worry about driver problems.

 

Seer, my biggest area of hope at this time is the A10-4655M and similar parts. The basic part should hold up well against my A8-3500M's performance but with greatly improved size and battery life. The iGPU should still exceed my 6620G. Ideally they'd also be able to fit a dGPU with a nice power envelope, but who knows how necessary it would even be?

 

It only sucks for you because you're using a not supported fixed dGPU mode instead of switchable, for me, AMD RULEZ big this time.

 

Does anyone know if AMD will release a better switchable graphics driver these power saving and high performance thing is not doing so well for me maybe a option to just use high performance at least