*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

are you using CPU-z to determine that?

 

No. K10Stat

 

which coupons?

 

it was like $868 shipped with tax (6% sales tax here) with 30% discount. I called to cancel my order, and I really wanted to and was just going to go with my NP8130. They offered me $50 to keep the order, so I did. Then I got $50 just now with the $50 price drop, and ~ $43 with eBates cashback.

So $868 - $143 = $725.

If I want to be a jerk, I may call and ask to return my laptop and see if they'll offer me $50-$100 more.

30% off expires today, but I'm sure there will be another.

 

Very nice. I just got off chat with a rep and she said that they couldn't give me a credit because the A8-3530mx was no longer available. I asked her why should that matter and she told me to call the customer service hotline. What was the number to the "resolutions center" that you got?

 

To Atom, I'm not clear why 2001 or 2003 bench's. As has been pointed out, the strength of the LLano with current drivers does not show up unless you're using directx10 or 11 based programs. I suppose those would give you the absolute gimpiest the llano can do if that is what you want

To Nova and Imwithstupid, I would go ahead and call and squeal a bit I just got off the phone and like WingNut, they agreed to credit me the 50.00.
This deal is just getting better and better, specially since I did my purchase as a referral from the ebates site which got me another 5 percent cash back
Too much fun
seer

 

Abbadon, screw the chat, call this number:
18002896947

 

The one I used is NBP61449
you can also try NBR5818

you punch those numbers in when you are ready to checkout with your purchase configuration, a small box will appear asking if you have a coupon code.

Good luck. both of those are for 30 percent off a laptop configured at 999 or more.


seer

 

Number I was given was:

"You may want to contact our Resolutions Team at 1-866-217-6014 between 7:00 AM - 2:00 AM EST, seven days a week"

 

Because I do not have directX10 or 11 results of my existing laptops therefore 06, Vantage, 11 means me not much. I know Hybrid Crossfire is not supported by these old benches, but I curios for only APU power.

 

3dmark06 is DX9. IMO it's still useless - most ppl will play games on a new laptop in DX10 at least, if not 11.

Only game I can think of that supports DX9 only is COD? But why the heck would anyone play that on PC, beats me. It's meant for console.

Of course there is TF2 but anyone can max that....

 

Dragon Age 2 is DX9 on low and medium. High and Very high can only be enabled using the DX11 rendering engine.

Still plenty that supports DX9, since it is/was the supported API at what is now the minimum hardware requirement level for many games. Over time that will, as you allude to, be more DX10, though I don't recall DX10 adding a whole lot over DX9 like DX9 did over previous versions.

 

call of duty was originally played on the PC and is the same game on the PC as a console (with better controls on the PC version)

 

3DMark06 has considerable bias towards the CPU. That being said, the 6750m or 6770m for that matter are far from top end GPU's and DirectX 9 usually offers a significant performance boost over DirectX 10 or 11 in games that support both API's. I don't plan on only playing newer games, as a matter of fact will probably play lots of older games on the DV6z, so DirectX 9 is important to me, as is a large number of other people. DirectX 9 has the largest number of supported games of any API, largely due to the fact that the Xbox 360 is primarily a DirectX 9 machine.

But 3DMark05, 03, 01 should be no issue for even most netbooks, so I think it is a non-factor. Games released 2004 and earlier can run on my Intel ULV SU4100 CPU and GMA 4500MHD Intel GPU near high detail.

 

800MHz at .750V is stable for me as well, I wouldn't be surprised if that is stable for everyone. That might increase the battery life a little bit.

 

Call of Duty nowadays is not what it used to be. It's a console franchise clearly and it's way behind other shooters on the PC IMO

Yes but DX9 isn't very useful as a benchmark because most DX9 games - console ports - do not really challenge a dv6t or dv6z.

What will challenge your laptop is Crysis 2 on DX11, or Civilization V on DX11, or Metro 2033, or Total War Shogun 2 (on DX11)

I suspect that since the new Wii has DX10 support - and developers will develop for the Wii's specs - PC console ports in the future may be DX10 a lot more than they are now. Either way my point is that I think Vantage and 11 are better benchmarks than 3dmark06 - and anything before 3dmark06 is definitely useless

 

What was the stock voltage?

 

Right, I agree 3DMark06 is somewhat useless, but the problem is, DirectX 9 support is really borked. And games like Bad Company 2 run much faster using DirectX 9, that is if driver support is optimized. Even on my desktop I run with DirectX 9 because I get 10-15fps better on average than DirectX 10.

So if the DX9 drivers aren't optimized you either get mediocre performance with DirectX 10 and even worse with DirectX 9. For a machine with a GTX 580m or 6990m, I'd say gimped DirectX 9 won't hurt it one bit because it can easily churn out numbers on raw performance alone.

 

.9250V at 800MHz. Going down by .175 should make a nice little difference.

For the record here are the stock voltages compared to my current voltages

P6 800MHz - .9250 stock --> .7500
P5 1000MHz - .9375 stock --> .8250
P4 1200MHz - .9750 stock --> .8500
P3 1400MHz - 1.000 stock --> .8750
P2 1600MHz - 1.0250 stock --> .9250
P1 1700MHz - 1.0500 stock --> .9500
P0 1900Mhz - 1.0750 stock --> 1.075 @2.4GHz (500MHz increase at same voltage)
B0 2600MHz - 1.300 stock --> 1.15 (same turbo, lower voltage)

P0 and B0 are as low as they go at those speeds. I like these speeds because temps for the CPU max out at around 75-78C under heavy load on the GPU as well. When just the CPU is loaded 70C is the max. This is all in a 78F room.

 

Thats exactly how I'm set up... 30 min Prime95 and 1 run SuperPi 1M shows I'm stable, so I'm happy.

IMO Turbo seems somewhat broken, it only seems to ramp up sporadically (and drops back down quickly) ... so I figured why not just run a speedier (but slightly slower then turbo) load state on all cores to compensate

BTW I found running Kombuster and Prime95 only nets a small increase in overall temps - but like you say, better safe then sorry. Also, I don't plan on using Hybrid crossfire at all until drivers are more mature - alot of bench's show that performance is lost with it on anyways. The discreet GPU on these DV6's are enough horsepower for most games at decent settings IMO.

 

Guys, might you think 2001SE, 2003 are too old, but still the best for measure performance quickly. See 2003 how close is for the relative performance. After open 06 and Vantage than you will see something absolutely different sequence.

 

dito they are crediting me the $50 too

 

Probably answered but could anyone tell me what's the GPU they have on HP DV6z. "1GB GDDR5 Radeon(TM) HD Dual Graphics [HDMI, VGA]"

 

Yeah, it's confusing. But the dedicated is the 6750m, when in crossfire though it's considered the 6755G2.

 

I chatted a rep and at first they offered me $30 and then they said that they would put in a claim for $50 but it had to be "approved".

Did this happen to anybody else? Did anybody get an email saying their claim was approved?

 

So with all the arguments about Llano cores not hitting its max 'turbo core' speeds...my hits 2.4 ghz pretty regularly, even with light web browsing.

 

I got flat out refused on the basis that the A8-3530MX is not available.

It did seem like the adjustment was available if the exact configuration was still available, and it did seem like it was available if you changed it...

 

It hits it in short bursts but it usually doesn't sustain turbo.

 

I think it depends on the rep you get. I had the 3530MX also. You should try contacting them again and seeing if you get another rep.

 

Nova I'd call and get someone else. Wouldn't be the first time someone said no and someone else said yes. They didn't even argue with me, just looked up the change in price, asked me if I wanted to cancel and reorder, but I'd have to step down to the 3510, I said no, i'd keep my 3530 order but i wanted the change in base price credited. She said to hold on a sec, then came back and said approved. She was entering it into the puter and my cc would be credited when it shipped.
seer

 

I got the 3530MX and they gave me the discount. I just told them the base price lowered $50 and configuration was irrelevant because all other option pricing remained the same. They said that the 3530mx wasn't currently available to me too, but I told them I'll cancel the order then and re-order when they come back in stock. She then went ahead and credited me $50!

 

That is what I got as well the second time I tried chatting. They told me to contact the resolutions team. I am gonna call them tomorrow.

 

If you already have your laptop as long as you're within your 21-day return period, they will price match.

Also, can owners of the DV6z that have them already confirm the make and model of their LCD? It should be LG LP156WF1-TPB1.

 

Nope, I have the LP156WF1-TLF3 and I believe a bunch of other people have reported having that too.

Haven't heard anybody mention one with the TPB1 suffix.

 

Hmm, wonder what that suffix means because only specs I can find is TPB1. If you pull up the panel at lgdisplay.com it only shows the LP156WF1 and no suffix so maybe suffix is irrelevant and indicates customer code or something.

 

My 1366x768 is a Samsung 156AT05-H07

 

Just got off the phone with HP, they gave the $50 credit. I took the survey at the end but I wasn't really listening. To anyone that has taken the phone survey from the resolution center, it is 1 for lowest and 9 for highest right? He was really helpful and didn't try to pull anything. I just want to make sure I didn't accidentally give him a bad rating by giving him all 9s.

 

They asked me to do the survey but I was on hold for several minutes, then silence, then the speech was garbled so I just hung up...

 

A little off topic, but was hoping that any of you may be able to shed some light on something that came up for me with my dv6

I bought a single (was planning on grabbing another down the road) 4GB 1600Mhz Patriot module (PSD34G16002S) and replaced the 2 2GB sticks that came in the machine ... the laptop set the speed properly according to JEDEC specs and all seemed well until i noticed that the discreet 6750M graphics wouldn't show up in catalyst. I popped back in the 2 2GB sticks and it came back again.

Do any of you guys know if running single channel memory would cause this ? I'm not sure if it had something to do with the memory itself (not supported, etc) or dual channel or what??

 

Doubt it. Some people (like Abbadon) have the CTO version with a 4gb+2gb config (i.e. not dual channel) and they're not reporting any problems.

 

Based on the picture below which is from anandtech's review the discrete card will only work with the apu with dual channel memory. Read the fine print at the bottom of the picture. From what I have read online I believe that the 4gig and 2gig config are still working in dual channel.

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/4444/amd-llano-dualgpu-branding.jpg

 

hmmm seems to me I saw something about that in a white paper. I *believe* single channel cripples the dual graphics system in some manner. Lack of bandwidth most probably but I can't elaborate. I just remember that after reading it, I concluded I needed to stay in dual channel mode.

Seer

EDIT: whoops, didn't see Swat had already id'd the problem. Good Catch there OH, and another good thing, you have confirmed that it WILL run 1600 mem sticks In dual channel mode that's good for an average 14-15 percent performance increase on both the cpu and igp

 

My mistake, dual channel is allowed even with asymmetrical RAM sizes.

 

DX10.1, and the primary difference is shader/AA efficiency over DX10, assuming it's coded properly for DX10.1.

 

Y'know, when the Wii U launches it's going to be 3 generations behind with graphics. In as little as year or two after that we might be seeing integrated graphics having the GPU power of a console standard.

 

Just got off the phone with them and I got the $50 $credit. The guy was trying to act stupid and "accidentally" priced my config at $975 and tried to only give me a $25 credit at first. $698.99 out the door for this makes me happy. HT's price puts me to shame, though. I wish I had known eBates give 5% at HP.

 

I've tried twice, once in chat once on the phone. They say that since I used a coupon on my original order I can't combine it with the lower price...which is nonsense since it is the base price that is lower. I'll keep trying i guess.

 

Did you happen to take the survey at the end? I gave the guy all 9s and I'm hoping that was the highest you can give. I was reading and doing the survey, didn't hear the scale for the last set of question regarding the rep. On a positive note, mine just shipped . Now I'm just waiting for it to show up on billmelater to make sure they gave me the credits they said they would. If all goes according to plan it should come to $715 after tax. Not a bad deal...even if I had to wait a month just for it to ship.

 

$715 with the FHD screen? How did you get that price?

And 9 was the highest score.

 

It cost me 812 with the FHD screen, so $50 price drop and $46 from the 5% off?