*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

By the way, my GPU score in 3dmark 11 was 2061. According to notebookcheck's comparo, a msi GT683 R with a 2630 quad and a 1.5gig 560m can't come close 1959 is what they got . On the performance overall tho, he gets me with 2200 to my 2026, however, I had all sorts of background utilities and processes running to monitor everything, plus was online, and my K10stat is set up to throttle like a banshee if not required. Throw in that I havn't really started trying to find max clocks on either apu and dedicated yet, that each core is set to operate independently instead of 'ganged', and I think I have a more than reasonable chance of breaking 2100. Not bad for a 700.00 box not bad at all .
having waaaay too much fun here

seer
oh yeah, forgot, i'm not running on max performance power set up either, running on balanced...

 

I just hope my replacement is in good shape, but wondering if they still have any 3530MX's or if I'll have to settle for 3510mx. I guess knock $25 off the price tag then!

 

There is definitely something wrong with it. There is no reason it should reach that when idling. Mine idles under 40C. Are you sure it wasn't automatically installing an update or something?

 

You know what the whole undervolting/overclocking thing makes me wonder?

If AMD set the voltages high and clocks so conservatively on the CPU part of the die, what did they do to the GPU part?

I'd bet that if we could control the iGPU voltages and clocks we could see massive improvements there too.

 

No it was not. I manually install updates. This is a clean install on my machine. It's been running 90-95C usually at load since I got it. Since I was able to reduce voltage of the CPU it now runs "only" about 88-90C, but still hot, and GPU runs 78-80C.

I would really like to open this sucker up and repaste it, but don't want to risk them refusing my return. Plus I think the GPU is already damaged.

Part of it could be the fan control too. Right now it's running 56C and the fan is only running 20%.

 

So these settings are working great on my setup, everything is stable. And it regularly hits and sustains 2.2/2.4 ghz.

 

I envy you Llano owner's IGP, CrossFire and CPU overclocks, so I ordered a Intel SSD to make me happy.

 

LOL that will work

seer

 

Makes sense. I hope someone smarter than myself finds someway to overclock the IGP

 

Erggggg... This thread is painful! I want one soooo bad. If my M15x dosent beat these scores, I'm selling it. Since it only gets one hour on battery...

 

jeez, you guys are REALLY aiming for the cellar on this undervolting. Batt life going to go thru the roof. So far I've just been plugging in the values you guys have been posting and its held up.

Oh, i just got out of Rift (was checking for stuttering but zilch nada none
my basic frame rate out running round the countryside whacking mobs has gone up to between 50 to 57 fps or so on Ultra minus shadows and something else I keep forgetting. When in a big rift fight with spells flying all around it drops down to 39 to 45 or so. my temp readouts show max reached on the dedicated was 59 and on the apu 64 but remember that i have a much more aggressive fan profile than the stock one. my fan goes all in at 76 and is running about 75 percent in the mid sixties.

seer

 

musho, what we really need is a way to access the base clock on the on die memcontroller and push the bus speed up. Huge gains are available there as anything that increases bandwidth results in big gains in performance.

seer

 

If you could get 1600 memory up to around 1866 levels, you'd be flying, and also have a rocking overclock.

 

exactly right. the desktop llano guys have already demonstrated that the in chip mem controller is hell for stout. They were running 1866 mem at something approaching 2200 something. I don't see any reason we shouldn't be able to do something similar as you suggest The returns would be substantial. I think I read a couple of tests where they were getting nearly 30 percent on some apps.

seer

 

Hm..I have noticed that my stock gpu fan for my 6750m is just stuck at 30%..no matter how hot the gpu gets it just stays at 30% The only way I can get it ramp up is to use the user fan control feature in MSI Afterburner...shouldn't the stock config be able to cool itself?

 

You mean ULPS?
I´m on 11.6

 

Finally getting a glimpse of what this thing is supposed to be. I was installing the HP stock driver first then the AMD driver (11.6, 11.7, or 11.8). It was buggy at best with a lot of stuttering and just plain bad performance in games. I finally decided to just install 11.8 after uninstalling my drivers and doing driver sweep. It installed just fine and now this thing is starting to run the way it should. Crysis on medium before this would be choppy and fluctuate between 20-35fps. Now it almost never dips below 30 and hovers in the 40s. On top of that cpu temp went down 5C and gpu 5-8C while gaming. This is the first positive experience with a game I've had so far, feels good .

Also, I've been having this weird noise coming out of my left vent. It comes and goes but it kind of sounds like the fan ticking a wire as it spins. Does anyone else having this noise every once in awhile? Now that the gpus are finally starting to get their act together I would hate to have to return/exchange over fan noise. I was thinking of taking some compressed air and blowing into the vent to try to clear the obstruction. I'm hoping its just a rogue cable and not a failing fan. Any thoughts or insight on a fix would be amazing, I'll try anything short of taking it apart. I've taken other laptops apart before but I don't feel like voiding the warranty.

 

You should feel fortunate, at least you CAN control the fan with MSI Afterburner. Mine fan isn't affected at all by MSI Afterburner.

Whatever it's called, lol. I keep forgetting.

So a fresh install of 11.8 worked out of the box? Switchable graphics and everything?

 

Probably going to be very hard if not impossible. Changing the baseclock is most likely locked. I could have a look to see if it's possible to change clocks speed by upping the right multipliers instead, but to be honest it's probably going to be outside the scope of what I'm capable of as a bios modder

I still think overclocking the dGPU in the bios is going to be better than the software approach you guys are taking though. I would like to have a look at this particular bios to see if it's possible at all.

Would anyone be so kind to give me the link to the latest bios file for this model? I'm eager to start digging and see what's possible. Thanks!

 

HP Notebook System BIOS Update (AMD Processors) HP Pavilion dv6z-6100 CTO Entertainment Notebook PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

Latest BIOS. F.20

You can just go to HP.com, click drivers & downloads at the top, type in DV6z 6100 and it will ask for OS, then take you to the downloads page.

 

That link isn't working for me. HP's site says that page can't be found. Manually searching for the laptop gives me a bios file with a version called F.1D...

Could you please give me the direct link? Thanks

 

Go to HP site like I indicated, click drivers and downloads at top, type "DV6z-6100" in the search box, choose OS (only Win 7 64-bit available), and it will take you right to the page.

Try this link:
Software & Driver Downloads HP Pavilion dv6z-6100 CTO Entertainment Notebook PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

direct link for F.20
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp53001-53500/sp53381.exe

 

Both the directions as the link lead me to the same page, which list the version as being F.1D. See here:



Clicking that link downloads from exactly the same location, so atleast I'm downloading the proper file. I'm still confused why the version number is off. Weird. Thanks for helping me out! I'll get started and see what's possible.

 

Oh crap, sorry. F.20 was on there just yesterday! I downloaded it. Maybe there was something wrong with it!?

 

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp54001-54500/sp54025.exe

Still there when I look

 

Yeah it's there for me too.

 

There it is, just was up on the HP site yesterday, so just linked to that site, but now it's gone from there but apparently still available for download if you know the SP!

 

Little change in topic. One of the HP supplied proggies in swsetup is the norton internet security program free trial (60 days). Now normally, (since i'm from the bad old days) I toss Norton about as far as I can throw it, however, when I went to do my 'new install' check for the best rated antivirus, guess what I found. (hint, i had already uninstalled it as a 'reflex action'
Norton AntiVirus 2011 Review & Download
anyway, take a look. I went ahead and got it back out of swsetup and frankly, been playing around with it for a few hours this morning, and , well, i'm impressed. Just running the super fast quick scan, it popped out six tracking cookies, and 3 'phone home' type data reporters from some otherwise (i thought) legitimate companies..(going to send out some smokin emails a little later...).
Anyway, if you're buying a new comp, you might just give Norton a couple of months to impress u, it IS free for that long at least, after all

seer

 

I still will kick Norton as far as I can throw it. MSE, ccleaner, glary utilities, and malwarebytes does a thorough job. Norton and McAfee and most others only add to the bloat and cost money.

 

That's a pretty good sized file for a bios.... musho u got your work cut out for you.

seer

 

I'm sure a lot of it is the installer GUI. But yeah, I was surprised by its file size too.

Back to overclocking. Well I did a complete wipe of AMD drivers. Driver Sweeper, the whole nine yards. Installed only 11.8. Trixx still wouldn't work, but by removing just the 11.8 graphics driver and installing 11.6 from SP52989, and manually changing the ULPS in the registry I can overclock with the MSI Afterburner without needing to "prime" Afterburner by running a "high performance" app before starting Afterburner. Problem with this, is the dGPU runs at 100% all the time which causes an increase in temperature, which I think is the reason for my temperatures idling so high over time.

I'm still completely perplexed why Trixx won't work, and why I can't control the fan. If I can get it figured out maybe I won't have to return this one.

 

yeah but Wing, those things Norton found and kicked? well I HAD been running ms security essentials.....

seer

and like I said, its free for sixty days anyway..and according to every test I've seen, its performance impact is incredibly small, but hey, was just a suggestion.
I also like malwarebytes, but its only free for a much smaller length of time.

 

I use all the free versions! I'm ok manually scanning for malware, as long as real-time viruses and worms are detected. But I've probably only had a few since I've been using computers, well basically since 1982!

 

If you want Norton for free, you might want to check your internet provider. From what I know, Comcast gives you Norton 360 v5 for free and ATT gives McAfee. But from those 2 I will choose Norton. The other Antivirus I've used is AVG and seemed good and right now I have MS Security Essentials on one of my computers and works quite well for free too. Malwarebytes is good and have that installed on all of my computers.

 

1982!!,

NOOOB!!!

heheheh

Seer

 

Okay, so which one would you guys like to see modded? The F.1D or F.10 file? So far I've found out that atleast the dGPU is able to be overclocked with a bios mod. I've also found the module containing the iGPU bios, but so far trying to mod it has turned out to be unsuccessful. Probably because it's using multipliers instead of hard values for the clock speed. I'll look into it, though.

 

Has anybody tried downloading the crossfire profiles off the AMD website to see if it would improve dual graphics performance?

 

I did but couldn't tell if it really made a difference.

 

So I figured I would give it a shot with the latest bios (F.20). I've modded the bios to make the 6750 run at 610mhz on the core, and 910mhz on the memory. I doubt any 6750 isn't able to overclock 10mhz on both core clock and memory clock. Any brave soul willing to try it out? If it works, I'll be able to create custom bioses for your guys, with the 6750 clocked at whatever speed you want. Test for stability first by slowly moving up with software overclocking, and once you've found your maximum stable clocks, I'll be able to mod those into the bios.

Note again, that I take NO responsibility for anything that goes wrong. Always have ways to recover a bad bios flash ready. Here's the download link and the MD5 hash to make sure the file downloaded uncorrupted. Unzip the contents in the zip file and run the InsydeFlash.exe file.

WARNING, MAKE SURE YOU DISABLE ANY OVERCLOCK, SO IT RUNS AT STOCK SPEEDS.

Bios flashes should _always_ be done at stock speeds, no matter how many days of Intel Burn test you are able to run without it crashing or producing errors. Period.

Link: F.20 610-910.zip
MD5 hash: FA3659CA1B82511446240EAE61A74F50

Edit: After flashing, reboot and check with GPU-z to see if the default clocks have changed. It should now state 610/910mhz and run at that speed whenever a 3D application is launched, when it would normally run at 600/900mhz.

Edit2: Run the InsydeFlash.exe file, and not the previously mentioned one.

 

So, I just ran 3DMark11 on my M15x, 2226 overall, 2119 on the GPU score.. Seer, your pretty much at 5870M level..... More OC'ing, and more improved drivers, and this won't even be funny.

 

As long as you can get rid of the microstutters. Not 100% gone for me at least. Then again my laptops seems funny.

 

No chance with 11.8 for me even with ULPS disabled in registry, still freeze and bluescreen, only 11.6 works for me.

But I also don´t need to trigger the high performance mode with GPU-Z, OCing the 6750 works out of the box with diabling the ULPS in the registry.
+rep

 

But do your temps go up at all? Disabling it in the registry causes the GPU to run at 100% at least based on MSI Afterburner, whatever that 100% means.

 

Did you try to set the BIOS option to FAN ALWAYS ON ?

 

I'm using the full 11.8 package and have trixx set up to start automatically, but I'm using afterburner for my monitoring and fan tools as I like them better. No problems.

Seer

Edit, Hey 7, I'm running with the Fan Always On bios switch turned OFF

 

Wait, you can OC on 11.8 with trixx?

 

once trixx starts up with kill ulps setting, i can use either for overclocking/fans etc. but afterburners monitoring is vastly surperior etc.

seer

 

I've tried with fan always on BIOS setting to both ON and OFF didn't seem to make any difference. No fan control. Constantly get the message that ULPS is ON even though tick mark says it's off in Trixx too. Have tried every possible combination. Only thing that I can get to work for overclocking is 11.6 drivers, but still no fan control. I can install 11.8, but have to uninstall drivers from the device manager, and install 11.6 drivers then I can overclock.

Attempting a fresh recovery to see if it makes any difference whatsoever. In any case I have an RMA number and will ship this machine out Monday or Tuesday next week for a replacement unless some miracle happens and find out it was just an "oh duh" moment. I've had plenty of those in the past. But I don't think so, mainly based on temperatures. Mine was running 89-90C with performance mode on coolsense. Remove performance mode it was running 95C. But with K10stat I was keeping it about 85C. Those lower voltages help, but still something is wrong.

 

Yes, indeed, a RMA would be good option with those temperatures...
I only reached 90°C, when I oced the CPU to 3Ghz and ran Cinebench 11.5

 

Maybe if you do a full format and a clean instal could fix all the problems!