*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

hehehe, i think wing's on his sixth or seventh re-install

seer

 

Done that a half dozen times already...

 

My webcam says its not connected and i was having graphic driver issues so hp just said theyll make me a new one. Im waiting on that to come in, oh and HT if they dont have the 3530 any more im sure you can get more then 25 dollars knocked off... for the inconvenience and all.. Good luck! EDIT: They gave me more off because I wasn't satisfied with this one.. Some of my trim is loose too!

 

Well, just got mine. Does anybody have a problem with the computer randomly going to sleep? I can't even run 3dmark 2011 because it keeps going to sleep.

 

Off topic.

Does anyone know the specifications of the memory of dv6z? Im planning to sell my OEM memory sticks and I need the specifications. Thanks.

 

Make a new driver? Wow. I didn't even fuss with the webcam yet, I've been so preoccupied with getting temps down, improving fps in games, and keeping it from locking up! When the rep was configuring my replacement machine he said nothing about the 3530mx is not available. And money back!? Heck he kept trying to sell me a more expensive laptop and get me to upgrade stuff, mainly warranty and Office, and 2GB video card! I told him he should be giving me that stuff for free because I was not happy at all and considering returning the laptop altogether instead. He stopped after that.

No, not at all. Weird how it would go to sleep during an intense task like 3DMark11. It seems these laptops are having lots of quirky issues. Growing pains for a new tech in a laptop I guess. What power profile do you have? It should run fine with Balanced or High Performance but Power Saver might have it doing weird things.

It's just plain old DDR3 1333MHz.

 

Some G4 is coming

Photo: APU scenery driving to! HP Llano core g4 prerelease evaluation - Technology News News

 

Lol. thanks! haha. I thought there were many of ddr3 1333. lol on with the topic then lol.

 

HTWingNut, well, maybe you have to return the note then.
Good luck!

 

Well there's probably half a dozen things that could be putting it to sleep, settings galore. You're just going to have to start slogging thru them one at a time. First, I'd make sure the battery is getting a good connection and is fully charged. Easy to check, unplug the unit and see if it turns off. If that checks out ok you know your power supply is working, and the battery (having gotten to full charge) is also working. Next, check your power profile in control panel, set to high performance, then check advanced settings and make sure nothing is shutting down the screen, harddrive, modem etc. There are similar places to check in the personalization menu's etc. windows help will ferret em out, and hp may even have a couple extra in their control software.

gluck

seer

 

cpuid will give you the specs on the ram including the jdec's.

I saw a note somewhere that all sorts of different ram are being used in the laptops. Pretty easy to pop off the back cover (will NOT void your warranty) and take a look at the chips. That will give you the manufacturer and series numbers.

seer

 

Does it fall asleep while it is loading the combined test? It takes a while to load said test and the default sleep behavior is like 3 minutes so that might be why.

btw, have you tried the 1600 RAM yet?

 

For anyone wondering whether they made the right choice in going with the 'z' over the 't', and/or whether dual graphics really *works* or not, well, I just glanced at the 't' overclocker's thread and saw this...

"Looks like its maxing out at 850/1100, any higher on the memory side and I get blue screens, any higher on the core side and my comp just freezes, or I get artifacts.

Just got a 1853 in 3dmark 11, 1653 gfx score.
__________________
New HP DV6TQE 6100:

i7-2630, 6GB RAM, 1 GB 6770, 750GB 7200 RPM, 1920x1080, reformat win 7.
"

well, I'm not even close to those clocks...and my scores were what, 2026 and 2060 something...?

and look at which cpu he's running...

makes we wish I could figure out how to do the Zorro "Z" heheheh.
btw, I didn't post my numbers in their thread..they're pretty 'touchy' bout the whole llano/intel thing over there so best to just let em b.

Seer

 

Now if only these increases were seen in a game or application - has anyone tried any other DX11 games to test it out?

 

DDR3 1333MHz @ CL9 is pretty much universally standard. The 6GB RAM that came in mine were each from different manufacturers.

Apparently 1600MHz RAM will help with the GPU performance of the iGPU, so should help with Crossfire too. But nobody has confirmed it yet.

 

Hey HTWingNut, I was wondering if you could use Hwinfo32 to tell me what kind of monitor HP is using for the 1080p DV6z's?

Thanks!

 

It's the LGD0259 or LG LP156WF1-TLF3

LP156WF1-TPB1 Datasheet PDF Download

 

Thanks so much!

 

I think, if I do end up ordering one of these, I'll get the cheapest RAM option, and buy 8GB of 1600MHz RAM.

 

SF, there seems to be a very long pause before it starts the last test, i think its the 'combined one' is that what you're seeing?

seer

edit: whoops, see know that it was R3d that was wondering and that SF was commenting.

 

well, it runs the p*ss out of Rift on Ultra with shadows off. 45 to 55 fps is what i'm getting now and i'm more than a hundred clocks core and 300 clocks LOWER on the memory on my 6750 than he is on his 6770..and I haven't come CLOSE to finding the limits on this thing.

One other thing, there is something 'off' with the ram on the 6570. I can begin to push up on kombustor and any other dx11 graphics program but the physix test in 3dmark11 hates my 6570 mem. I can SCREAM thru the previous graphics tests, (the increase from stock is not only discernable, it is STRIKINGLY faster, however, just at the end of the physx run, that particular load file stalls. It does NOT crash 3dmark11 or anything else, it just stalls for some unknown reason, (which is also the error message that 3dmark11 pops up itself).

If I could get it past that test, judging from what i'm seeing in the previous tests, I'd be looking at substantially over 2100 and probably approaching 2200. It does not effect my kombustor dx11 runs, dx10 runs or dx9 runs at all...so i'm thinking there is a code problem in that test that does NOT like the llano. Temps are very low and not a problem.

as for other games, been trying to find time to download some steam games I'll let you know.

seer

 

well the 6gigs most of us are running was at the time, a free upgrade

but I am in full agreement with the 8 of 1600.

seer

 

At what resolution?

 

i have the 1366 screen so i'm running native.

seer

oh, does COD black ops have an fps or demo/bench somewhere?

edit: ok, well it apparently doesn't have a built in bench or fps meter, so all i can tell you is that it was pegging the discrete vid cards utilization meter at 95 to 100percent and running on the igp at the same time at from 39 to 100 percent, but mostly around 60 percent until a fire fight would start then it prettymuch cranked up both cards. No idea of fps, but I CAN tell you the action and graphics were VERY detailed, and the fights were 'fluid', AND apparently its a 9c game so at least in THIS game, dual graphics is fully engaged.

seer

 

I'm jealous of your machine now seer! Hoping mine runs as fluid and well as yours. Thought I would be just plugging along with it but now I'm agitated. Too bad it will probably be two weeks before I get my replacement.

 

What was your CPU and GPU clockspeed with 3DMark11? My best was P1903.
@ 2.8GHZ CPU and 810/950 GPU
And which drivers do you use?

 

gawd i wish i could get even close to your numbers on the dedicated..
my apu is set to cycle from 800 to 2733, and the cores are UNGANGED, this apparently lets the turbo boost really work the cores. I see a single core at 2733, sometimes 2, sometimes 3 and sometimes 4. Most often i see one or two up there and the other two at 2200/1700 or some such. They move constantly.

on the dedicated, I'm sad to report that I got the 2026/2061 11 score with something less than 640 on the core (i think it was 622 or 32; and 822 or 32 on the mem. Like I said, I wasn't pushing the discreet card clocks, I was trying to optimize the contribution from the apu

I'm working on seeing what the card can do now. I may have gotten crappy on card mem.

seer

 

Using Imwithstupids OC specs in K10stat and no OC on on my graphics card I was able to get P1808 in 3Dmark11. Playing DOW2 with most settings on high/ultra I am able to average 35-45 Fps at 1920 resolution with temps hitting 80-81C. Except for AA, Crossfire seems to be working well for this game. Not sire why but when I enable AA in the game settings it passes the performance test but it gives me scrolling black lines on the main screen. When I enable AA through CCC it just gives me a black screen. Now if I could get K10stat to load at system startup I would be set!

 

ok guys, as usual with new tech, there is a *trick* to getting the 11.8 drivers to open up the 6570 mem and core clocks in 3dmark11. Only problem is that you have to run AMD's llano system mon in the background and you can get by the physics test

so, without further ado, I said I thought 2100 was possible without a lot of drama, and here's the numbers, still not anywhere near maxxed but closing in PLEASE NOTE THAT GRAPHICS SCORE!!! I'm within spitting distance of a good quad/560m combo AND i'm dragging a background task thru the benchmark. Clearly, 2100 3dmark11 is not going to be our ceiling [and if u r wondering about the avatar, until someone puts up better scores, i'm claiming the title of "Dv6Zorro!"
lol

 

But the displayed driver version is the HP stock driver. 8.832

Mine passed also the 2000-score, I finished with P2049:
Generic VGA video card benchmark result - AMD A6-3410MX APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics,Hewlett-Packard 358D score: P2049 3DMarks
I did a driver sweep and reinstalled the 11.6 driver (they have the version number 8.861) and with clock control enabled in K10stat (in the previous runs that wasn´t enabled, so the BIOS did the clock control of the higher frequencies) and OCing in MSI Afterburner 800/947 (you have to OC to 780 then change the GPU in the settings menu, after that a change back to the 6750 and it is possible to OC more than 780Mhz. See attachment..

Seer you should try 11.6, perhaps you can reach more than 2100 with 80shaders more

 

there is a script for that, posted on this board I believe. I have mine starting up as a system program, but not at my testing clocks

seer

 

jeez...that box of yours is freaking me out...947 on the mem? what is your gpuz total bandwidth at that setting?
nice scores

 

As the man said..'THARRR SHE BLOOOOWWWS!!!"

 

Hello
Couldn't help noticing this thread.
Did anyone have any luck ocing the hd 6750m gpu to a HD 6770m? I would try but Im a gpu noob.

 

@seeratlas

LOL. Read the last ten pages or so. That's all that's been discussed. With Crossfire with the DV6z machines, they can easily beat 6770m stock speeds.

 

hmm, nice fake

 

Oh oops my bad,
I gave up after getting to the 120th page lol.

 

Thanks to Wing for the 'Dv6Zorro' avatar
I suppose I should give it to 7 cause he's within a few points of my score with lesser hardware......

NAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!

heheheh, i like it too much

Seer

 

Hey 7, one thing puzzles me, it *appears* that your physics score is around 400 points MORE than mine...even assuming the sysmon drag accounted for some of that..what do you think made the difference? mem bandwidth?

seer

oh and yeah, i have a combination of the 8.832 and 8.88 drivers running.

 

I'll work on the avy a little more when I get a chance. That was just a quick and dirty.

So has anyone else done a clean install? Anyone else had luck like seeratlas does with running Trixx for overclock and fan control?

BTW new K10Stat on the site today (1.54)
http://sites.google.com/site/k10stat/

Although I still struggle with what the B0 state is? My machine will only go to max P0 state regardless of what B0 is?

 

Perhaps CPU-Clockspeed and higher MEM-clockspeed, don´t know, at which clockspeed did you bench?

BTW: Age of Conan in DX10-Mode (AA and AF16) runs only smooth at 20-27FPS if CF is disabled, with CF enabled I only get 10-15 FPS.

 

Hey guys. Vote in my poll. Just trying to figure out the whole system fan control. Some can and some can't, just want to see how common it is and maybe fix it for those of us who can't.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-adjust-system-fan-speed-msi-afterburner.html

Also, I noticed even though Crossfire is checked, using MSI Afterburner's in-game monitor, the IGPU sits at 0% most of the time. Then it might bounce to 30-50% for a second then back to 0%. Is this normal?

 

7, just checked, i dropped my core speed a ton and upped the mem speed and my physics score went up over a 100 points.. bandwidth on your 6750's mem that's killing me LOL

 

B0 is the turbo speed. To enable turbo through K10STAT just go to the P-state tab and look at the bottom. There should be an option called "Boost", just enable that and hit apply. Getting the turbo to work took me a little while until I had a "Duh" moment and checked the box. It turbos pretty often from what I've seen under normal use, haven't monitored during games or other demanding loads.

 

Thanks, that's what I thought, but mine doesn't seem to turbo to whatever speed I put there. Then again my machine runs so darn hot.

 

Nother little tidbit for everyone but 7words (heheh he's too damned fast already). Once you have Trixx working, i.e. if you're showing an overclock, turns out that the voltage modifier will also work on your dedicated card..Might allow you to get just a few more ticks on the clock. I notice the onboard igp already gets more voltage than the dedicated so I think we have a wee bit of wiggle room there. BE CAREFULL!!! DON'T SMOKE YOUR 6750 !!. I'm talking TINY increases here, if you don't see immediate improvement, STOP, and let it go.

Seer

 

Ok, last little bit before i go for the 1600 mem. Here's my WEI score:

 

What mem you planning on?

 

I was told by two different companies that fast 1600 ram for laptops was "on its way". I was hoping to get better than cas 9. Will just have to see what shows up. They have plenty for the desktop sooo, it *should be possible.
I wish we had someone around with the skills to get into the bios and unlock a few extra mghz. The desktop guys were able to go from 100 to 140 something!!! and got really nice performance gains.

seer

 

these games are hit and miss with these drivers. From what I understand tho, amd's crossfire optimization setups for specific apps, are *supposed* to work with our dual graphics also.did you ever try applying one of their cap lists? (i think thats what they call them).

seer