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    *HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by scy1192, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. seeratlas

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    Wing, i'm beginning to worry bout your health :) maybe you should've kept the sager and just pass on all of this. Stressing you out.
     
  2. varucell

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    if I put 1600 memory into my 3500m will it just run @ 1333. I was just thinking it would run 1600 if overclocked but at regular clocks it would stay at the 1333
     
  3. HTWingNut

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    Don't get 1600MHz RAM that requires XMP, because that's an Intel thing. 1600MHz noted as "plug and play" should work. But I'm waiting to get confirmation from someone who bought RAM that actually works. If I can ever get another DV6z that is.
     
  4. varucell

    varucell Notebook Guru

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    Sorry you are having so many problems. I actually am not get a dv6z mine is a dv7. The only difference I know of is maybe a larger screen. I would try the 1600 memory. I think the worst that would happen is that it wouldn't boot.
     
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    I think the system will boot, it just won't run at 1600MHz since there is no JEDEC profile for 1600MHz.

    Also, looks like I finally got things squared away. Not sure why they couldn't just credit me the additional $25, they said they could do a price match and basically had the choice between a larger or faster hard drive or 8GB RAM. I chose the RAM because the hard drive is definitely getting replaced by an SSD. But RAM I'll use for a while unless 1600MHz proves a significant performance increase.

    I literally spent over three hours total on the phone to manage the exchange. This replacement machine better be a beaut because I'm not going through this crap again. They basically processed my laptop as a return and not an exchange and kept telling me too bad it's been returned. I told them that's not my problem, it was sent back as an exchange. I think I'm going to have a coronary failure. I need a beer!

    So Seer it looks like you're one of the elite few that will have a 3530MX CPU!
     
  6. nwkrep82

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    I can confirm that Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 HyperX Plug n Play Laptop Memory Model KHX1600C9S3P1K2/8G does read as 1600MHz.

    I put in my DV6-6135dx and it read as 1333MHz. But when I swapped out the A8-3500m cpu for a 3530mx, the ram read as 1600MHz. I swapped the stock cpu and my 8GB 1333MHz ram back in because the 3530mx w/1600MHz ram didn't perform as I expected.
     
  7. varucell

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    Good. I was wondering if it would work. Did you see any performance increase.
     
  8. nwkrep82

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    When I had it running with A8-3500m as 1333MHz, I saw no performance increase over my current ram (8GB 1333MHz Samsung). In fact I experienced some stability issues running it with the 3500m.

    When I swapped in the the 3530MX, both the cpu and ram got lower WEI stocked and overclocked than my current setup. No matter what I did i couldn't get the cpu WEI to go past 6.6 and the ram 7.2 (even with a fresh windows install). My current cpu is 7.1 and ram 7.4.
     
  9. varucell

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    Well I guess I won't worry about that upgrade then.
     
  10. nwkrep82

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    I'm going to send the cpu back for a replacement and swap it back in. I hope its just a bad cpu or maybe its something I overlooked to have it run properly. I really want to run the 1600MHz ram :(
     
  11. kevmanw4301

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    WEI is a terrible thing to judge an upgrade by.
     
  12. varucell

    varucell Notebook Guru

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    Yeah that is true. Wish I could see some real benchies.
     
  13. nwkrep82

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    That is quite right, but I don't see why the score would be lower than my current cpu. I even ran Passmark...and the cpu scored 1000 points less than my current setup...overclocked.

    I honestly think something is wrong with the chip I purchased or I overlooked something.
     
  14. R3d

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    How'd you manage to get a 3530mx? Ebay?

    And how hard was the CPU swap? Maybe next year it will be possible to swap in a trinity cpu..
     
  15. nwkrep82

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    I purchased the chip from Ebay. The swap is actually pretty easy.
     
  16. MachuPicchu

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    Very nice ... so linux works .

    Can you please check if
    1. Fan works. You can check cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/.../trip_points to see if its
    set to speed up based on temp and then maybe run some cpu intensive stuff and
    check if it works and what kind of temps you get.
    My current old laptop with Insyde bios is a big fail here.

    2. Suspend / hibernate works

    3. Does catalyst have option to work only with the apu and disable 6750.
    thanks

    trinity will probably not be compatible with this motherboard
     
  17. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    How do you know?
     
  18. varucell

    varucell Notebook Guru

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    Anyone know where I could maybe buy the blu ray drive for the laptop. I was thinking I would like to change the old super multi out.
     
  19. jmazz83

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    Newegg has an LG for $99, and a Sony for $149.

    the "spare part" number for the blu-ray it ships with is 641824-001
     
  20. varucell

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    So those 2 drives will fit then?
     
  21. jmazz83

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    Sure. Just DL the service guide that someone linked a few posts ago (actually it's quite a few posts by now) and it will give you step-by-step instructions on exactly how to do it, and contains A LOT of useful info on your laptop. (thats where I got the spare part number from, just in case you wanted the exact drive)

    I found the original part here, maybe you can find it cheaper somewhere else?
    http://www.dectrader.com/641824-001-New-HP-DRV-ODD-SATA-BD-RW-DVD-FX-12.7.html
     
  22. dajohn17

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    Just keep in mind that usually those drives don't come with blu-ray player software which can cost $50-$100
     
  24. HTWingNut

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    I don't want to keep whining, but this whole exchanging my laptop process has thrown me for a loop! Not only am I out the $25 for CPU cost difference, I'm out my $43 eBates money too because they processed it as a separate order and not as an exchange, and my original order is considered a return. Grr. Hopefully another 30% off coupon will come out and I'll just return this one and order a brand new one. Really irritating me. :mad:
     
  25. Kalookakoo

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    I feel your pain. Took me 2 months to get the dv7t I was happy with...
     
  26. HTWingNut

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    Ha. Not sure I'm happy or sad by that statement! :eek: I am SOOO tempted to just keep this Sager I have in my possession right now. But the battery life will drive me nuts, although I don't need that much battery on a weekly basis. Only occasionally. But then the cost too. Oh the torture!
     
  27. kevmanw4301

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    Hah, HT, keep the Sager and trade your DV6 for my M15x. You knooooow you want to! :) Hah, right.
     
  28. R3d

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    I wish a company would come out with a laptop that has both a 560m or above AND switchable graphics.

    Is it really that hard?!
     
  29. kevmanw4301

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    I know, right? I think the M17x w/580M has Optimus, actually.
     
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    I remembered reading it had a different socket FMx and thought they were incompatible but searching now its not clear if it will or not be backward compatible . hopefully it is
     
  31. HTWingNut

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    No, not optimus, but manual switchable graphics, which is fine by me too. I did hear they can get like 4 hours of battery life too.

    I hear enough people complain about it, surprised Sager haven't reacted and made it happen.
     
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    Hey so I just placed an order for one of these.

    Was planning on replacing the memory with 8gb 1600 and possibly get an ssd.

    As far as clocking, undervolting - I'm completely inexperienced, but I would like to get the most out of this system. As I understand it, it stays surprisingly cool and can handle quite a bit of overclocking.
     
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    It's supposed to remain cool. I'm writing a guide on undervolting/overclocking, and general performance / stability improvements on this machine, but can't until I get mine replaced. Hopefully be here by end of next week.
     
  34. varucell

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    What drivers are you using Seer. I just got my laptop and I need to figure out what is the best
     
  35. kR105

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    Yes, i want to know your setup too. :D
     
  36. smileyface101

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    I just read the hp limited warranty in case my llano have problems and saw this:

    J. Any replacement product may be either new or like-new, provided that it has functionality at least equal to that of the product being replaced.
    and
    (a) with new or previously used products or parts equivalent to new in performance and reliability, or (b) with equivalent products to an original product that has been discontinued

    So you could probably accuse hp of violating their own term of agreement. :D

    Heres the site: http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/en/privacy/limited_warranty.html
     
  37. HTWingNut

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    Really I should. But I just want my $70! I really hope that there is another 30% (or better) sale during my 21 day return policy because then I will be happy to return my existing one and buy a new one and save some money. Sounds cheap, but at this point I'm priding myself on getting this thing as cheap as possible.
     
  38. Kalookakoo

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    Or just threaten to return your laptop for a credit. That's how I got $50 off hp...
     
  39. HTWingNut

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    I will probably do that.
     
  40. GiftedOne

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    Hey guys I am back and glad to report that my computer is doing fine. But I have discovered an issue.

    @Seer/WingNut

    Error Msg: "A clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocated interval"

    0x00000101 error

    I have received BSODs on both this laptop and the last one that I had to replace. This is noted after installing the 11.8 and then the stock drivers. I am not sure if this is the issue or not but I believe it is the reason why I keep blue screening in game. I still have yet to reinstall my drivers but I will keep you guys posted when I do.
     
  41. HTWingNut

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    That is strange GiftedOne. I got that same error on occasion from my Sandy Bridge desktop. Increasing voltage of the CPU seemed to correct it (only 50mV).

    Not sure if you are using K10stat and reduced voltage with it or not, or is this on a stock config? I find it hard to believe that it would do this with stock voltage, but same thing on my Sandy Bridge CPU at stock voltage, and a slight voltage bump corrected it. It could be Windows 7 related too, I dunno.
     
  42. wakeupwill

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    Have there been a lot of issues that have required sending these back?
     
  43. seeratlas

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    Ok, I install the 11.8 package then go into device manager and manually install the 8.861 display driver (from the 11.6(a) hotfix package.) So i'm using the 8.861 driver for the 6750 and 6620g but the 8.881 support package.

    Here is my k10stat setup (everyday) and my Afterburner showing clocks and temps while doing this post and running a few background tasks.

    Now my 6750 clocks are NOTHING like what some have achieved, but anyone doubting the power of the llano, well take a look at norseman's most recent post in the Overclocking 6770 in the dv6t thread in this forum. running his extreme overclocks (some 300 plus points over mine) with a high volume garage fan directed at his laptop for the heat (hehehe, that cracks me up), and temps pushing 90...he manages to get withing 100 points BELOW my current 3dmark11 score with a P2017 I believe! AND, even tho with his 'i" series intel quad and maxxed out 6770 vs. my lowly llano and barely clocked 6750, his physix score crushes mine (it is an *intel* thing :) look at his GRAPHICS score....where our LLano lays down the SMACK to the 't' series by over 300 points, and not only am I not yet maxxed out... , my temps don't break 80C, I test in a lounge chair, on my lap, with an iced glass of sangria ( for me, not the llano :) with the thermostat holding the room at a constant 76F...

    Here's a look see. GO SLOW, WATCH YOUR TEMPS. HAVE FUN :)
    Seer
     

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  44. varucell

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    For some reason when I run Kombustor it shows 3 gpus. Really weird
     
  45. seeratlas

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    Well, don't know that its kombustor so much as its afterburner. Afterburner will *monitor* 3 gpus, 1 which is the 6570, 2 which is the onboard igpu -the 6620g in my case, and 3 which is god knows what LOL, but pretty much mirrors the scores of 2 at any given time. It * may* be that gpu3 is afterburner's attempt to monitor xfire performance, but if so, its not doing a very good job :)

    seer
     
  46. seeratlas

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    I think there were at least two that I heard of. Wing's unit had some problems, primarily running hotter than everyone else, and not overclocking as well, plus some just generally weird behavior.

    Can't remember off hand why the other was sent back.

    But to answer your question, no, it doesn't seem that there are a great deal of issues with the box. Most people I've heard, and most all the reviewers I've seen, have been darned happy with the way the 6'z' s have turned out.
    I sure am.

    Seer
     
  47. varucell

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    It is showing that I have 2 6620g's. There is no load on the gpu number 1 which is the 6750m
     
  48. HTWingNut

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    That is because you either need to start a program like GPU-Z and set it as "high performance" and then start MSI Afterburner or disable ULPS in the registry. Then you will see GPU 1
     
  49. varucell

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    I disabled ULPS no go when I run Kombustor it will only use the 6620g
     
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    Did you set Kombustor to "high performance" setting in switchable graphics?
     
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