*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

Sounds about right.

 

Are you guys running 11.8 and overclocking the gpu?

 

Yes. Be 100% sure ULPS is disabled. I have had to reset it several times.

 

Disable ULPS yourself in the registry. Simple edit, reboot, and always off.

http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/667144-crossfire-disabling-ulps.html

Don't change any other values than the "EnableUPLS" in the keys mentioned. Otherwise it can screw other things up. (Trust me!)

 

I will try it on my lunch.

 

Hey you guys, well i got the replacement laptop and have had it for about a week, and the flickering horizontal white lines have came back on this second laptop. I have already tried.. reinstalling the drivers, updating the bios, doing a system restore.. the whole shabang. They are really quite annoying, and they go away with a system reboot. What do you guys think the issue is? I'm about to just send this laptop back its annoying the crap out of me.

 

I noticed lines once but they went away after a few seconds and have not come back since

 

you don't use your laptop near anything electrical do you? radio transmitter, microwave oven, big stereo system? or anything magnetic? Beginning to sound like you may be getting interference. Have you taken it someone else? different local and see if the lines are still there?

seer
oh, and are the lines there when you are running on battery?

 

varu, i'm running 8.861 drivers.

seer

 

Nevermind, wrong forum.

 

Guys when you say that you get 4h+ battery life, it is with Wifi disabled? How many cells does your laptop's battery has? I got the DV6-6177LA (A8-3500M+HD6750M+4GB+BR+1TB) and with the cpu undervolted i get about 2 hours and about 3 with Wifi off.

 

Have you run the battery until Windows says it's low or is that just an estimate from Windows? Download BatteryBar or BatteryCare and use those for better battery life estimates and configuration.

Is that with screen at 50% or less brightness? Full brightness can make a difference of a couple watts which is significant.

Also, set your minimum processor state to 5% and maximum processor state to 50% in advanced power options under processor power management. This will restrict the CPU from running at full speed which will use more power.

 

Just want to very happily report an astounding 3d06 mark of 10876!!!!

Cpu is @ 2.8GHz - 1.1875 volts (max temp 86)
GPU was at 780 core / 1000 memory

I could probably push 11,000 with a higher gpu core but the slider cant go farther

This score just sold me the laptop lol.

EDIT : Take that $2500 macbooks! lol

 

I'm using BatteryBar, but i'll try BatteryCare just to test it
Yes, the brightness is set to 30%~50% on battery mode. I'm going to try the 5%/50% config now, thanks
Also, HWInfo says that my battery's capacity is 53.8Wh, how about yours?

 

Don't have my replacement DV6z back yet, hopefully tomorrow or Friday. But my last one had about 3% battery wear iirc.

 

I just can't get those to work right

 

So I changed ULPS to disabled and I still get a blue screen when i try to overclock. Anyone else have the same thing. 8.881. Do i need to turn off crossfire or something maybe?

 

I faced the same some days ago, i tried 11.7 & 11.8 beta and i got bsod even after i disabled ULPS. Now i'm on 11.6.

 

You can use the 11.8 CCC package, but have to go back and install the 11.6 (8.861) drivers if you want to overclock.

 

If you are using afterburner to overclock slide the slider to 780 and then go into settings. Set afterburner to the integrated gpu and click ok. Then go back and set it to the 6750M. The slider will now go way higher.

 

thanks for the reply seer, um well the first instance it occured on this replacement i was on ac power at my desk, same old stuff going on around me as usual. Then today i was sitting in the library at school and it started doing it again. A quick reset and the problem goes away, i talked to a couple techs at hp and they have said it could be due to residual power in the resistors causing interference with the hardware. Also I cant seem to get my 6490m to turn on at all using switchable graphics. Ohh, and when i got the lines, i tested it on a external monitor and the image on the monitor was so screwed up and intermittent i could hardly make anything out
heres a topic on hps forums with a couple other people who seem to have the same issue (one is me) Re: Horizontal flickering lines on dv6 screen - HP Support Forum

 

I had something similar with the DV6z I returned/exchanged. It only happened a few times with my unit though and It wasn't the only problem. It also overheated, and had loose touchpad buttons.

 

I just noticed on K10stat & Prime95 that if i set the clock to 1800 and 0.9125v, using FID 2 and DID 0, i get an stable system (at least the first 20 min). BUT if i set the FID 20 and DID 2 (i get the same 1800) the test on prime95 fails saying that a hardware error was detected and if i restart the test or if i open intelburn at the same time i get bsod almost instantly (does NOT happen with FID 2/DID 0).
Why this happen? Its normal?
I'm going to leave prime95 running overnight with the first config to make sure that it is 100% stable and i'll let you know

 

sorry to jump in out of nowhere, but I'm wondering if someone could kindly point me to a guide describing how to use K10stat (or any other similar tool).

I'm not quite ready to do anything to my machine just yet, but I do want to learn more about what is possible. I'm having trouble finding anything that is clear, and especially something specific to my machine (dv6z-qe).

thanks in advance!

 

So i took a couple videos.. and this is the best one that came out its only a few seconds becuase my phone was acting up i guess.. the other videos files are corrupt.. but imagine that line that pops up in random places flickering on the screen 2011-08-20_20-26-07_391.3gp - YouTube

 

Aspire Gemstone: K10STAT AMD Griffin Processor UnderVolting Guide
It may seem irrelevant to your machine.. but its all the same, i didnt get it at first but then i looked around at guides, also looked at what other people on this thread did to theirs because they posted their voltages and what not. So that was really helpful, i recommend you do the same! Good luck!

 

thanks, I did find this one but I wasn't sure this would work for my machine, thanks for the heads up I'll give it a read...

i'm confused tho, how does undervolting the cpu help? seems like what it's best for is improving battery life...

what about if I want to do something like have the cpus running at turbo or near turbo speeds all the time? is that something completely different?

thanks again

 

I saw the white lines too for the brief time I owned a 6140. They are triggered by certain types of graphical refresh, such as turning on or off Aero, or switching resolutions and color depths etc. in a game, fullscreening a blueray, etc. They might also be related to putting heavy stress on the CPU and GPU halves of the APU at once. Once they start they keep going until a reset. Additionally the patterns are somewhat deterministic once they pop up: I had a 1080p mkv playing through hardware in media player classic, and skipping to X part of the movie over and over caused the exact same corrosponding pattern of white lines, whether full screen or windowed. (And the lines appeared in the same place on the display panel, not adjustinng relative to the movie window.)

All of this makes me think it is some kind of driver issue. I don't know if it's AMD or HP's motherboard at fault, but it really smells like a software problem.

 

This is quite a mystery. Assuming its not a design defect in powering the monitor, its beginning to sound like the driver has a memory leak, but if that's the case, why don't the rest of us see this? very strange. I'm surprised HP has not said anything yet, or have they? What did tech support tell you?

Seer

 

Sel, the ability to Undervolt is a huge advantage in these computers. The biggest threat to pretty much anything in your laptop is heat. It is generated by the amount of electrical activity in any given component. Increasing frequency (i.e. overclocking) generates more heat, UNLESS you can increase the frequency while reducing the voltage at the same time which we DV6z owners can do For you gaming, you can thus go 'farther, higher', and if you set a profile to maximize your battery life, undervolting can help a ton all while maintaining a stable system. Trust me, the Dv6t guys that understand this stuff are gnashing their teeth

Seer

 

That is a good question. I had a similar issue with one of my configurations. the FID and DID are only multipliers as far as I know. But maybe there's more to it than that. I don't know. I haven't read anything on K10stat that says it matters.

 

It seems like my GPU is running extremely cool (800/1000 , max temp 75 degrees :O) but the cpu is heating up like mad. when the voltage is around 1.15 to 1.1875, its reaching around 86-87 celcius. I have an unopened tube of Arctic silver MX4 lying around so I might repaste (lol putting mx4 on the mx3). I think I might just try a UV/OC for 24/7 use though.

What is the fastest clock you guys get keeping cpu around 75 celcius?

side note 3dmark06 record 10918

EDIT: 2.33ghz @ 1.1 v ?

 

yep that's what I was told when I bought the thing! I was really hoping for an i7, but the price on this thing was too good to pass up... and I was intrigued by the overclocking abilities. I think I've got the undervolting concept, but do i need a separate tool for overclocking? Can I even overclock a laptop?

 

K10Stat is all you need for overclocking and undervolting the cpu. Afterburner will allow you to overclock the gpu.

 

That is about mine for staying under 80C. 2.3GHz @ 1.05V gets about 75C and 2.4V at 1.075-1.1 gets about 80C. Anything higher pushes it higher than I would like. I have been using 2.2GHz @ 1.025 recently because it stays in the low 70s and I don't really see a performance difference between 2.2 and 2.4GHz.

 

Hmm, interesting. with the A6-3400m 2.2-2.3GHz is furthest I want to push it too because of temps. I was able to run stable at 2.6GHz but it would run 92-94C! when pushed with a game like Bad Company 2.

 

Well, Bad news on the Adata front..tho the description at Newegg FAILS TO MENTION IT...(BAD Newegg. BAD dog) the mem is XMP sooo, unless we get a bios update that lets us call up xmp info from the mem modules, its not going to run at 1600 on our 'Z''s. It does, however, run just fine at 1333 and *may* facilitate overclocking once we get hold of the base reference clock with an updated setfsb or something similar.

sigh
Irritates me that the Adata guys didn't just burn the 1600 settings into one of the three JDEC slots.

seer

The part that really irritates me, is that given the huge size of the insyde bios we have, I have no doubt there is a hidden submenu therein that when accessed with a certain keystroke sequence, would let us do pretty much what the desktop guys can do...now..hmm how to find out who actually built this thing, find one of the bios engineers, and get him/her drunk.... LOL.

 

am i the only one crashing so bad and getting an unresponsive laptop after installing catalyst 11.8

I had to go safe mode and remove anything ATI related to get a functioning Normal Mode.

I'm gonna try and see if 11.7 is still functioning properly.

 

I guess thanks for sharing, but sorry to hear that. Grrr. Yeah not sure what the whole deal is with XMP when they can just program the JEDEC appropriately.

And yes, I wish they would unlock whatever else the BIOS can do. I'd like to be able to bump up the 80C throttle limit a bit. But maybe that's even implicit in the chip itself since the Asus does it as well.

On another note, my laptop has been "in transit" from Anchorage AK since 2pm 8/23. Doesn't say in transit to where. I'm supposed to get it tomorrow but I'm thinking not until next week now which puts me in a predicament. My Asus has to go back by next Tuesday. So not only do I have to decide which laptop to keep, I have to hope my DV6z is in good working condition.

 

Has anyone tried to play games on battery? On my Asus I was actually able to play Bad Company 2 using the integrated GPU running at 1280x720, settings mainly low, and getting 25-35 fps! And could run for 1.5 hours!

I fixed my CPU at 1800MHz because I think running anything higher would consume too much power for the battery plus reduce run time even if it did run

 

Crap! I'm expecting my memory to arrive any time now...

 

Is there a way to manually control the fan? Cause I find it annoying how it doesn't kick in till my cpu is > 65 degrees. MSI afterburner fan control does not work for me.

 

The general concensus is no, but others seem to have it working.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-adjust-system-fan-speed-msi-afterburner.html

 

Sometimes I forget to plug in my charger and depending on the game the battery would drain in about 1 hour at best, and under half an hour at worst.

(Thank you steam for the "you have 10 minutes of battery left reminder").

 

Thanks.

If you get a chance can you try running it on battery with only the IGP? i.e. set the game you're playing to "power saving" in the switchable graphics option?

Assuming you have 6-cell battery?

 

I'm in the same boat. I even checked Adatas website and it did not say anything about it being XMP. There are now several other ddr3 1600 kits listed now with different timings. I wonder if any of those would work?

 

Quick question? Do these laptops contain beats audio? I see HP advertising beats audio, but there is so many damn Dv6 models I am not sure if that includes this one.

 

FYI had tried a single PATRIOT 4GB module PSD34G16002S and it determined timings/ speed properly - I took it back because the CAS 11 timings are a little slow and the IGP graphics didn't work properly with single channel DDR3.

 

Mine did, I don't even think it said that it did when I ordered it but it has it

Just checked, when I ordered there was no mention of beats audio but when I unpacked it, there in the upper corner of my laptop it says beatsaudio. All the software is there too so it was a nice surprise.

 

Awesome. I can't find the software on my laptop anywhere, but I am going to update the IDT audio drivers.